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Steve L.
October 22nd 03, 01:44 PM
Some boards won't boot with no CPU fan attached. At least by default.
Maybe check in your BIOS and see what it is set to do.

"perry mason" > wrote in message
...
> Where did I go wrong?
> My stuff:
> Asus KT7A board
> 1.4 gig processor running at 1050
> couple hds, burner
> 2 sound cards.
>
> Hi, I'm not trying to overclock, I just can't stand the shrieking
> whine of the cpu fan any more as I'm trying to do music production on
> a profoundly amateur scale here.
> I'm new to AMD. The KT7A seems to have a 1100g CPU limitation. The
> chip I got is a 1.4, I believe, but it only boots at 1050 and runs
> great on XP pro with a moderately sized but noisy CPU tower type fan.
> I've tried several different fans. People tell me this is the business
> as far as quiet fans go. It sucks. There has to be a better way.
>
> I made a water tight cooler taking a 3 inch tall aluminum cylindrical
> tower cooler and removing the two inside fans. The walls are finned so
> there is plenty of mass and surface area and so on exposed to the
> circulating water. I wrapped the outside except for the bottom lightly
> with masking tape to contain the epoxy and goobered it up with two 1/4
> inch copper pipes sticking out. The bottom is not treated at all, just
> a dab of thermal paste. The inlet is close to the heat synch at the
> bottom and the outlet is near the top of the container. The board sits
> horizontally. No leaks. I used a tiny pump intended for waterfalls not
> higher than one foot (Rio 90- $20usd) submerged in roughly a gallon of
> ice water. It cycles freezing cold water through a 1/4 inch line at a
> pretty good flow. I can't believe cooling is the problem here. The
> whole tower is ice cold to the touch.
> The first attempt failed as the blob didn't fit very well on the CPU
> so it wasn't properly coupled physically to the little square CPU
> thermal transfere thingy. Failed to start and never started again.
> Scratch one chip. It didn't protect itself by shutting down.
> I made a proper lash up to attach the cooler and now is fits perfectly
> and is nice and snug. The new 1.4 chip gives 3 successive beeps at
> post and I shut it down by pulling the plug. The chip is cold to the
> touch and the lines are condensed and the tower cooler is absolutely
> freezing cold. The return line is spewing icewater at boot time. If
> heat were a problem the water being returned would be hot, right? I
> plugged the original CPU fan in while holding it in my hand just to
> see if it was a feature of the Asus board not to boot if it sensed no
> CPU fan plugged into the board but that is not the deal. I put the
> routine cooler back on and it boots fine. I tried the spunky DIY buzz
> buster water cooled marvel on a P200, BX board and it ran fine at a
> DOS prompt with no ice, just water for 4 hours. If anyone has some DIY
> ideas I'd be grateful to hear about it. Please don't post links to
> $200 completed H2o systems as I'm really not that class of customer.
> Thanks for your time, pm.

Mike Rivers
October 22nd 03, 06:37 PM
A friend of mine's kid is a serious overclocker and he has a water
cooled computer. He bought a commercial cooler that attaches to the
CPU chip and just has inlet and outlet connectors. He built his own
cooling tower outside his bedroom window using a shower head and about
four feet of 4" PVC pipe, with a little garden fountain pump to
circulate the water. It worked fine until one day the pump clogged up
and the CPU overheated. It wasn't all that quiet though, but less
annoying than the usual fan noise. It sort of gurgled.

For what it's worth, I got my Mackie hard disk recorder quieted down
to a very tolerable level simply by reducing the speed of the CPU and
power supply fans, and replacing the original disk drive with a new
Maxtor that runs much quieter.





--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

Zingo Leach
October 26th 03, 03:39 AM
I've got a KT7A-Raid mobo running an AMD 1400mHz CPU. You will need to flash
the BIOS to the most recent one in order to go over 1050mHz. Also, with the
older BIOS', you will need to have a fan running at at least 2000RPM
attached to the CPU fan header. Flashing to the most recent BIOS for the
mobo will allow you to use this also. I'm running a bigass heatsink with a
Pabst 80MM fan that is whisper quiet-quieter than the chipset fan or the
hard drives. If you need goodies to cool and keep your computer quiet, go to
www.plycon.com

Also, you will probably incur a major trainwreck if you try to stream over
ten tracks on this board due to major gitch in the VIA chipset that was
implemeted. You can improve this drastically by installing a patch which was
developed by George Breese. Check your chipset version and go here for the
patch.

http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/

;-)

"perry mason" > wrote in message
...
> Where did I go wrong?
> My stuff:
> Asus KT7A board
> 1.4 gig processor running at 1050
> couple hds, burner
> 2 sound cards.
>
> Hi, I'm not trying to overclock, I just can't stand the shrieking
> whine of the cpu fan any more as I'm trying to do music production on
> a profoundly amateur scale here.
> I'm new to AMD. The KT7A seems to have a 1100g CPU limitation. The
> chip I got is a 1.4, I believe, but it only boots at 1050 and runs
> great on XP pro with a moderately sized but noisy CPU tower type fan.
> I've tried several different fans. People tell me this is the business
> as far as quiet fans go. It sucks. There has to be a better way.
>
> I made a water tight cooler taking a 3 inch tall aluminum cylindrical
> tower cooler and removing the two inside fans. The walls are finned so
> there is plenty of mass and surface area and so on exposed to the
> circulating water. I wrapped the outside except for the bottom lightly
> with masking tape to contain the epoxy and goobered it up with two 1/4
> inch copper pipes sticking out. The bottom is not treated at all, just
> a dab of thermal paste. The inlet is close to the heat synch at the
> bottom and the outlet is near the top of the container. The board sits
> horizontally. No leaks. I used a tiny pump intended for waterfalls not
> higher than one foot (Rio 90- $20usd) submerged in roughly a gallon of
> ice water. It cycles freezing cold water through a 1/4 inch line at a
> pretty good flow. I can't believe cooling is the problem here. The
> whole tower is ice cold to the touch.
> The first attempt failed as the blob didn't fit very well on the CPU
> so it wasn't properly coupled physically to the little square CPU
> thermal transfere thingy. Failed to start and never started again.
> Scratch one chip. It didn't protect itself by shutting down.
> I made a proper lash up to attach the cooler and now is fits perfectly
> and is nice and snug. The new 1.4 chip gives 3 successive beeps at
> post and I shut it down by pulling the plug. The chip is cold to the
> touch and the lines are condensed and the tower cooler is absolutely
> freezing cold. The return line is spewing icewater at boot time. If
> heat were a problem the water being returned would be hot, right? I
> plugged the original CPU fan in while holding it in my hand just to
> see if it was a feature of the Asus board not to boot if it sensed no
> CPU fan plugged into the board but that is not the deal. I put the
> routine cooler back on and it boots fine. I tried the spunky DIY buzz
> buster water cooled marvel on a P200, BX board and it ran fine at a
> DOS prompt with no ice, just water for 4 hours. If anyone has some DIY
> ideas I'd be grateful to hear about it. Please don't post links to
> $200 completed H2o systems as I'm really not that class of customer.
> Thanks for your time, pm.