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geoff
July 29th 15, 04:54 AM
Does anybody know what the correct designation is for the 'mini-XLR' on
MiPro wireless bodypack transmitters ?

Body is similar to a TA4F, but instead of the button-lock it has a
screw-on nut/collet that does fit onto the outside thread of a regular
TA4M .

I have seen it referred to as a 'MS4F' , but can't find anything
definite re origin or manufacturer/s. Is it a MiPro special, or is it a
generic connector with another designation ? Google or Bing don't seem
to know....

geoff

Phil Allison[_4_]
July 29th 15, 06:32 AM
geoff wrote:

> Does anybody know what the correct designation is for the 'mini-XLR' on
> MiPro wireless bodypack transmitters ?
>
> I have seen it referred to as a 'MS4F' , but can't find anything
> definite re origin or manufacturer/s. Is it a MiPro special, or is it a
> generic connector with another designation ? Google or Bing don't seem
> to know....
>

** Looks like it's a special one, a " Mipro MJ-40s " mini XLR connector.

See last page of this list.

http://www.soundfirst.com/mipro/images/Mipro.US_Web_Prices_2005-04-01.pdf



.... Phil

Scott Dorsey
July 29th 15, 02:48 PM
geoff > wrote:
>Does anybody know what the correct designation is for the 'mini-XLR' on
>MiPro wireless bodypack transmitters ?
>
>Body is similar to a TA4F, but instead of the button-lock it has a
>screw-on nut/collet that does fit onto the outside thread of a regular
>TA4M .
>
>I have seen it referred to as a 'MS4F' , but can't find anything
>definite re origin or manufacturer/s. Is it a MiPro special, or is it a
>generic connector with another designation ? Google or Bing don't seem
>to know....

Mipro is addicted to weird proprietary connectors, and I don't know if
any of them have English names.

Point Source Audio sells a connector that fits your description, which they
call a "CON-MP." I doubt anyone else uses that nomenclature.

You ask, "why can't they use a LEMO connector like everyone else?" I can't
answer that, but it's as bad as Sony.
--scott

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Dave Plowman (News)
July 29th 15, 03:45 PM
In article >,
Scott Dorsey > wrote:
> You ask, "why can't they use a LEMO connector like everyone else?" I
> can't answer that, but it's as bad as Sony.

Cost? Lemos appear to be made from materials more expensive than Zimbabwe
lions.

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geoff
July 29th 15, 10:24 PM
On 30/07/2015 1:48 a.m., Scott Dorsey wrote:
> geoff > wrote:
>> Does anybody know what the correct designation is for the 'mini-XLR' on
>> MiPro wireless bodypack transmitters ?
>>
>> Body is similar to a TA4F, but instead of the button-lock it has a
>> screw-on nut/collet that does fit onto the outside thread of a regular
>> TA4M .
>>
>> I have seen it referred to as a 'MS4F' , but can't find anything
>> definite re origin or manufacturer/s. Is it a MiPro special, or is it a
>> generic connector with another designation ? Google or Bing don't seem
>> to know....
> Mipro is addicted to weird proprietary connectors, and I don't know if
> any of them have English names.
>
> Point Source Audio sells a connector that fits your description, which they
> call a "CON-MP." I doubt anyone else uses that nomenclature.
>
> You ask, "why can't they use a LEMO connector like everyone else?" I can't
> answer that, but it's as bad as Sony.
> --scott
>

I don't actually have a problem obtaining one, just curious as to WTF
use/make a unique connector when there are generic ones that do the job
just as well, if not better. The little grub-screw that self-taps into
a plastic body worries me a bit.

I guess it does lock technically unable users into using the brand's own
peripheral mics, leads, etc.

geoff

Scott Dorsey
July 30th 15, 02:24 PM
geoff > wrote:
>
>I don't actually have a problem obtaining one, just curious as to WTF
>use/make a unique connector when there are generic ones that do the job
>just as well, if not better. The little grub-screw that self-taps into
>a plastic body worries me a bit.

Because these are people who come from the consumer electronics world, where
everything is disposable and where proprietary connectors don't add much to
the cost of the product.

Proprietary connectors discourage mixing and matching products from different
vendors. It prevents people from putting the Tram mike on the Mipro body
pack and then calling Mipro customer support complaining that it doesn't
work right.

>I guess it does lock technically unable users into using the brand's own
>peripheral mics, leads, etc.

And this is important more because it eliminates any need to support weird
configurations than anything else. Welcome to the consumer electronics world.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Klay Anderson[_2_]
July 30th 15, 03:51 PM
I am a dealer for Mipro and thought they used a TA3F (or was it -4F its been a while since I sold any)? Also, IIRC it was a 3-pin pin out similar to -----eeeww--Samson.

JackA
July 30th 15, 09:21 PM
On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
> On 30/07/2015 1:48 a.m., Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > geoff > wrote:
> >> Does anybody know what the correct designation is for the 'mini-XLR' on
> >> MiPro wireless bodypack transmitters ?
> >>
> >> Body is similar to a TA4F, but instead of the button-lock it has a
> >> screw-on nut/collet that does fit onto the outside thread of a regular
> >> TA4M .
> >>
> >> I have seen it referred to as a 'MS4F' , but can't find anything
> >> definite re origin or manufacturer/s. Is it a MiPro special, or is it a
> >> generic connector with another designation ? Google or Bing don't seem
> >> to know....
> > Mipro is addicted to weird proprietary connectors, and I don't know if
> > any of them have English names.
> >
> > Point Source Audio sells a connector that fits your description, which they
> > call a "CON-MP." I doubt anyone else uses that nomenclature.
> >
> > You ask, "why can't they use a LEMO connector like everyone else?" I can't
> > answer that, but it's as bad as Sony.
> > --scott
> >
>
> I don't actually have a problem obtaining one, just curious as to WTF
> use/make a unique connector when there are generic ones that do the job
> just as well, if not better. The little grub-screw that self-taps into
> a plastic body worries me a bit.
>
> I guess it does lock technically unable users into using the brand's own
> peripheral mics, leads, etc.


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>
> geoff

geoff
July 30th 15, 10:18 PM
On 31/07/2015 1:24 a.m., Scott Dorsey wrote:
> And this is important more because it eliminates any need to support weird
> configurations than anything else. Welcome to the consumer electronics world.
> --scott
>

Soldered on two wires - and my customer's Toa headworn mic works just
fine. But that's just me .... ;-)

geoff

geoff
July 30th 15, 10:22 PM
On 31/07/2015 2:51 a.m., Klay Anderson wrote:
> I am a dealer for Mipro and thought they used a TA3F (or was it -4F its been a while since I sold any)? Also, IIRC it was a 3-pin pin out similar to -----eeeww--Samson.
>
Yeah the plug body is the same as TA4F, but instead of the push-button
latch they have a knurled nut that screws onto the threaded outside end
of the 'chassis-mount' socket, above the socket's lock-nut.

geoff