Latest '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' No. 30

[Dec [Cluskey]]

It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' ... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?

Love to hear your views on which file system.

https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI

Dec ....

[Luxey]

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 8:49:19 PM UTC+2, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
> It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' ... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?
>
> Love to hear your views on which file system.
>
> https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI
>
> Dec ....

Depends of what you're after. I use Corel Video Studio X3 Pro, that came free
with my HP lap top some years ago. With it I produced over 200 clips and
published those to YT.

Truth is, it can not open .mp4 (android/ google standard IMO), nor .3gp (my 2 androids record in those formats respectively), but that other one freebie
I've got preinstalled on same lap top, ... what was it..., yes, Cyber Link Director, something ... can.

So actually good number of clips I made using that one.

The rest of (very lo fi, 640/720 x 480) camera gadgets I use produce .AVI, which I think is some sort of standard outside of Apple (and maybe Google).

[John Williamson]

On 12/05/2015 15:15, Luxey wrote:
> On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 8:49:19 PM UTC+2, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
>> It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' ... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?
>>
>> Love to hear your views on which file system.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI
>>
>> Dec ....
>
> Depends of what you're after. I use Corel Video Studio X3 Pro, that came free
> with my HP lap top some years ago. With it I produced over 200 clips and
> published those to YT.
>
> Truth is, it can not open .mp4 (android/ google standard IMO), nor .3gp (my 2 androids record in those formats respectively), but that other one freebie
> I've got preinstalled on same lap top, ... what was it..., yes, Cyber Link Director, something ... can.
>
> So actually good number of clips I made using that one.
>
> The rest of (very lo fi, 640/720 x 480) camera gadgets I use produce .AVI, which I think is some sort of standard outside of Apple (and maybe Google).
>
..AVI files were first created by Microsoft, I think, but the file is
only a container that can contain any of many formats of video. For
example my Archos player will play back some .AVI files, but they must
contain MP4 video. It is not restricted to low resolution for either
video or sound.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[Luxey]

уторак, 12. мај 2015. 18.38.15 UTC+2, John Williamson је написао/ла:
> On 12/05/2015 15:15, Luxey wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 8:49:19 PM UTC+2, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
> >> It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' ... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?
> >>
> >> Love to hear your views on which file system.
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI
> >>
> >> Dec ....
> >
> > Depends of what you're after. I use Corel Video Studio X3 Pro, that came free
> > with my HP lap top some years ago. With it I produced over 200 clips and
> > published those to YT.
> >
> > Truth is, it can not open .mp4 (android/ google standard IMO), nor .3gp (my 2 androids record in those formats respectively), but that other one freebie
> > I've got preinstalled on same lap top, ... what was it..., yes, Cyber Link Director, something ... can.
> >
> > So actually good number of clips I made using that one.
> >
> > The rest of (very lo fi, 640/720 x 480) camera gadgets I use produce .AVI, which I think is some sort of standard outside of Apple (and maybe Google).
> >
> .AVI files were first created by Microsoft, I think, but the file is
> only a container that can contain any of many formats of video. For
> example my Archos player will play back some .AVI files, but they must
> contain MP4 video. It is not restricted to low resolution for either
> video or sound.
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.

For that matter .mp4 is a container just the same, as well as .mov is.
Also, I don't know why would anybody think .AVIs are restricted to low res?!

Anyway, compression codecs they apply in recording are DivX/XViD and MJPG,
none of which is restricted to as low res as the one I use.

BTW, Sometimes I record with an ancient Nokia producing .mp4 @ 176 x 144/ H..26x
which I edit in cyber link ...

I usually render to .AVI/DivX of certain settings, sometimes "HD" 1280 x 720,
with Audio as PCM 44,1k 16bit stereo, but that is not what OP was talking about
in his clip, if I understood it correctly.

[JackA]

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 2:49:19 PM UTC-4, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
> It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' ... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?
>
> Love to hear your views on which file system.
>
> https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI
>
> Dec ....

Hi Dec,

A co-worker made a video and wanted to send it to a customer of ours. The quality of it was pretty amazing for a "phone" video. Anyway, when he went to send it, it was immediately rejected, too large for e-mail. He asked if I could help. I opened VLC Media Player and modified its size; managed to make it 1/4 of the original MP4 file size. It still had nice video quality, but when he and others played it, they heard no audio. It played fine on my computer.

Actually, that's why I got the VLC Media Player, since there are, like audio, one too many formats out there, and VLC handles most.

Jack

[JackA]

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 3:49:41 PM UTC-4, Luxey wrote:
> уторак, 12. мај 2015. 18.38.15 UTC+2, John Williamson је написао/ла:
> > On 12/05/2015 15:15, Luxey wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 8:49:19 PM UTC+2, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
> > >> It's Sunday ... it's 7pm ... it's '4 Minutes on the Net with Dec' .... No. 30 in the current season ... your weekly music tips service .. this week: 'WHAT FILES TO USE TO SEND VIDEO'. MP4? .MOV?
> > >>
> > >> Love to hear your views on which file system.
> > >>
> > >> https://youtu.be/6SsnMW5y7WI
> > >>
> > >> Dec ....
> > >
> > > Depends of what you're after. I use Corel Video Studio X3 Pro, that came free
> > > with my HP lap top some years ago. With it I produced over 200 clips and
> > > published those to YT.
> > >
> > > Truth is, it can not open .mp4 (android/ google standard IMO), nor .3gp (my 2 androids record in those formats respectively), but that other one freebie
> > > I've got preinstalled on same lap top, ... what was it..., yes, Cyber Link Director, something ... can.
> > >
> > > So actually good number of clips I made using that one.
> > >
> > > The rest of (very lo fi, 640/720 x 480) camera gadgets I use produce ..AVI, which I think is some sort of standard outside of Apple (and maybe Google).
> > >
> > .AVI files were first created by Microsoft, I think, but the file is
> > only a container that can contain any of many formats of video. For
> > example my Archos player will play back some .AVI files, but they must
> > contain MP4 video. It is not restricted to low resolution for either
> > video or sound.
> >
> > --
> > Tciao for Now!
> >
> > John.
>
> For that matter .mp4 is a container just the same, as well as .mov is.
> Also, I don't know why would anybody think .AVIs are restricted to low res?!
>
> Anyway, compression codecs they apply in recording are DivX/XViD and MJPG,
> none of which is restricted to as low res as the one I use.
>
> BTW, Sometimes I record with an ancient Nokia producing .mp4 @ 176 x 144/ H.26x
> which I edit in cyber link ...
>
> I usually render to .AVI/DivX of certain settings, sometimes "HD" 1280 x 720,
> with Audio as PCM 44,1k 16bit stereo, but that is not what OP was talking about
> in his clip, if I understood it correctly.

I shied away from DivX, because it required additional software to decode for viewers in usenet. I ended up using MPG, I felt it more compatible.

Crude, yes, just fun to make...

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/uni_moon.mpg
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/uni_romance_pt_6.mpg
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/usenet.mpg

Jack

[Dec [Cluskey]]

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 11:04:36 PM UTC+1, JackA wrote:
> Hi Dec,
>
> A co-worker made a video and wanted to send it to a customer of ours. The quality of it was pretty amazing for a "phone" video. Anyway, when he went to send it, it was immediately rejected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jack ...

I advise a lot of guys on the most consistant and probably 'best' way to send anything over the Net ... this time videos ... it is fascinating to find out what music guys use.

I don't advise on the 'cheapest', 'free' or what's available on latest cameras/phones/Ipads ...

The views here are interesting but the most consistent and 'professional' seems to be .MOV format sent using 'dropbox'... that ensures that the client will have the software already installed to view .mov and dropbox will be 'free to user' to accommodate any reasonable size of file ... although most 'pros' prefer Vimeo as a more exclusively professional viewing and storage platform.

Case solved .. I would think? [grin!] Dec...........

[JackA]

On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-4, Dec [Cluskey] wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 11:04:36 PM UTC+1, JackA wrote:
> > Hi Dec,
> >
> > A co-worker made a video and wanted to send it to a customer of ours. The quality of it was pretty amazing for a "phone" video. Anyway, when he went to send it, it was immediately rejected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Jack ...
>
> I advise a lot of guys on the most consistant and probably 'best' way to send anything over the Net ... this time videos ... it is fascinating to find out what music guys use.
>
> I don't advise on the 'cheapest', 'free' or what's available on latest cameras/phones/Ipads ...
>
> The views here are interesting but the most consistent and 'professional' seems to be .MOV format sent using 'dropbox'... that ensures that the client will have the software already installed to view .mov and dropbox will be 'free to user' to accommodate any reasonable size of file ... although most 'pros' prefer Vimeo as a more exclusively professional viewing and storage platform.
>
> Case solved .. I would think? [grin!] Dec...........

Dec, I'm GUESSING Apple's .MOV became more a standard, because the "PC" lagged in graphics. For me, I don't think I had the capability to create .MOVs, unless I purchased software, years ago. I remember having QuickTime software to (crudely) view .MOVs.

As for file storage, or "Clouds" as they are now known, it depends who's available. At one time, if you wanted to share (and/or receive )files, you could do FTP, even password protect access - no third party involved. Even browsers had FTP capability - but that was yesterday. Not sure why, but I recall Comcast (cable provider) putting an end to FTP.

It's just funny to watch Microsoft TV commercials about their "Cloud", like it's something amazing for business. But, really, there are so many computer illiterate people out there, you must automate and provide push-buttons. Because of these type people, I can't even save files wherever I wish, Microsoft (Windows 7 Pro) tells me where I may/may-not.

Thanks.

Jack