Curiosity question about the explitive deleted bleep

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We've all heard it on radio and TV.

I know you could do this by hand in a DAW but I'm wondinging in fact how it is typicaly done. I ask becasue I am impressed that the rise and decay time seem to be well controlled so you don't get a click at the edges, just a nice bEEEEp.
Seems like a little more thought went into it then just editing in tone.
And I've never seen a bleep button on a console.

So the question is, how in fact is this typicaly done?

Happy holidays

Mark

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200milli-sec of fade-in and fade out.

[Scott Dorsey]

> wrote:
>We've all heard it on radio and TV.
>
>I know you could do this by hand in a DAW but I'm wondinging in fact how it is typicaly done. I ask becasue I am impressed that the rise and decay time seem to be well controlled so you don't get a click at the edges, just a nice bEEEEp.
>Seems like a little more thought went into it then just editing in tone.
>And I've never seen a bleep button on a console.
>
>So the question is, how in fact is this typicaly done?

My console has a bleep button. Just route 1kc tone from the oscillator
module to a buss. Pot it up and mute it.... voila!
--scott

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[PStamler]

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:38:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> 200milli-sec of fade-in and fade out.

Doing inserts in Adobe Audition, there's the option of an automatic cross-fade. I use the software's tone generator, set to 440Hz.I set the cross-fade to 100ms.

Peace,
Paul

[Frank Stearns]

PStamler > writes:

>On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:38:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> 200milli-sec of fade-in and fade out.

>Doing inserts in Adobe Audition, there's the option of an automatic cross-fade. I
use the software's tone generator, set to 440Hz.I set the cross-fade to 100ms.

These crossfade times of 100 ms or 200 ms for this purpose (bleeping) seem rather
long to me.

10-20 ms seems more appropriate to get a definitive "BLEEP" without any popping on
the in or out. The longer times might make the bleep sound rather anemic going in
and out.

But, give it a try for your purposes; see what works best for you.

Frank
Mobile Audio

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On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:18:00 PM UTC-5, Frank Stearns wrote:
> PStamler > writes:
>
> >On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:38:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> >> 200milli-sec of fade-in and fade out.
>
> >Doing inserts in Adobe Audition, there's the option of an automatic cross-fade. I
> use the software's tone generator, set to 440Hz.I set the cross-fade to 100ms.
>
> These crossfade times of 100 ms or 200 ms for this purpose (bleeping) seem rather
> long to me.
>
> 10-20 ms seems more appropriate to get a definitive "BLEEP" without any popping on
> the in or out. The longer times might make the bleep sound rather anemic going in
> and out.
>
> But, give it a try for your purposes; see what works best for you.
>
> Frank
> Mobile Audio
>
> --
> .

I was more interested in the workflow.

I think the answer is they typically use a piece of rack gear called "profanity delay" which has the big red or yellow actually button on it or remote controlled which has it all built in.

thanks

[None]

> wrote in message
...
> We've all heard it on radio and TV.
>
> I know you could do this by hand in a DAW but I'm wondinging in
> fact how it is typicaly done. I ask becasue I am impressed that the
> rise and decay time seem to be well controlled so you don't get a
> click at the edges, just a nice bEEEEp.
> Seems like a little more thought went into it then just editing in
> tone.
> And I've never seen a bleep button on a console.
>
> So the question is, how in fact is this typicaly done?

On a Movieola, you stick a bloop (but no bleep) on the optical
soundtrack.

[Scott Dorsey]

None > wrote:
>
>On a Movieola, you stick a bloop (but no bleep) on the optical
>soundtrack.

Good point, and the editor has a roll of adhesive magnetic track with a 1kc
tone, for making the 2-pop at the beginning of the reel, so you can put that
over top of the word on a magnetic track. That would fade in and out too,
since you make a diagonal cut.

Same thing for 1/4" tape although there you'd be splicing it in.

I have seen plenty of 16mm prints from TV station where someone has blooped
the dirty words out of the track with a sharpie or with black tape. At one
point I owned a print of M*A*S*H where the word "goddamn" as in "goddamn army"
had even been bleeped out.
--scott

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article >,
Scott Dorsey > wrote:
> I have seen plenty of 16mm prints from TV station where someone has
> blooped the dirty words out of the track with a sharpie or with black
> tape. At one point I owned a print of M*A*S*H where the word "goddamn"
> as in "goddamn army" had even been bleeped out.

Much more fun when Dolby optical arrived. ;-)

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