Hmmm....You can't really use Auto-tune on a vocal track with acousticguitar Bleed!

[Paul[_13_]]

DUUUHHH!!!

Haha! I have VariAudio in Cubase 5....but the analyzed notes
look chaotic when there's a guitar back there.....

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 11/26/2014 7:38 AM, Paul wrote:

> Haha! I have VariAudio in Cubase 5....but the analyzed notes
> look chaotic when there's a guitar back there.....

I wonder how well Melodyne would work for this. It can separate a
polyphonic mix into separate tracks (sometimes). Wouldn't it be cool if
you had a guitar-playing singer on a single track and be able to fix the
vocal separate from the guitar?

Has anyone here tried, or done this?


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[hank alrich]

Mike Rivers > wrote:

> On 11/26/2014 7:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>
> > Haha! I have VariAudio in Cubase 5....but the analyzed notes
> > look chaotic when there's a guitar back there.....
>
> I wonder how well Melodyne would work for this. It can separate a
> polyphonic mix into separate tracks (sometimes). Wouldn't it be cool if
> you had a guitar-playing singer on a single track and be able to fix the
> vocal separate from the guitar?
>
> Has anyone here tried, or done this?

It takes much less time to sing it again, and get that right. But you
know that.

If it won't get right, something is wrong about the arrangement,
probably the chosen key. Change something and sing it again.

If this is going to be quite difficult, then cut the tracks
individually. Start with "all together now", then o'dub the guitar, and
then the vocal, and then toss the scratcher. If you have to fix
something, it'll be much easier.

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[Scott Dorsey]

hank alrich > wrote:
>Mike Rivers > wrote:
>
>> On 11/26/2014 7:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>
>> > Haha! I have VariAudio in Cubase 5....but the analyzed notes
>> > look chaotic when there's a guitar back there.....
>>
>> I wonder how well Melodyne would work for this. It can separate a
>> polyphonic mix into separate tracks (sometimes). Wouldn't it be cool if
>> you had a guitar-playing singer on a single track and be able to fix the
>> vocal separate from the guitar?
>>
>> Has anyone here tried, or done this?
>
>It takes much less time to sing it again, and get that right. But you
>know that.

Cutting and pasting is a marvelous tool. If the singer got that word right
in one bar, and that bar is repeated throughout the song, you can cut and
paste. But you can even cut a single note out and move it.

And Autotune can work if there is a lot of guitar leakage, IF you use it only
on one or two notes AND you have enough other stuff going on with the song
to hide the out of tune second guitar that pops up. If it sticks out like
a sore thumb, add a string section to hide it.
--scott

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[jason]

On 26 Nov 2014 11:24:01 -0500 "Scott Dorsey" > wrote
>
> Cutting and pasting is a marvelous tool.

A chamber piece I recorded a few years ago began with a lilting English
horn solo. The otherwise wonderful player honked the opening note; easy
to do with that instrument. Fortunately, the first four bars were
repeated and I was able to slice out that squwaked first note and replace
it with the one 4 bars later with (to my ears) =no= audible damage 'tho
it took a few tries to match levels.

[Les Cargill[_4_]]

(Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> hank alrich > wrote:
>> Mike Rivers > wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/26/2014 7:38 AM, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haha! I have VariAudio in Cubase 5....but the analyzed notes
>>>> look chaotic when there's a guitar back there.....
>>>
>>> I wonder how well Melodyne would work for this. It can separate a
>>> polyphonic mix into separate tracks (sometimes). Wouldn't it be cool if
>>> you had a guitar-playing singer on a single track and be able to fix the
>>> vocal separate from the guitar?
>>>
>>> Has anyone here tried, or done this?
>>
>> It takes much less time to sing it again, and get that right. But you
>> know that.
>
> Cutting and pasting is a marvelous tool. If the singer got that word right
> in one bar, and that bar is repeated throughout the song, you can cut and
> paste. But you can even cut a single note out and move it.
>
> And Autotune can work if there is a lot of guitar leakage, IF you use it only
> on one or two notes AND you have enough other stuff going on with the song
> to hide the out of tune second guitar that pops up. If it sticks out like
> a sore thumb, add a string section to hide it.
> --scott
>

If you're keeping options open for Autotune, make the vocal with
the guitar a scratch track and retrack one for Autotuning. IMO. Tracks
is cheap.

You might even be able to use the scratch and Autotuned one together.
I've had that work out. Wasn't actual Autotune but a different pitch-
fixer. Worst case? You have to mute the scratch track.

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Les Cargill