Schoeps capsule with no body?

[Nate Najar]

I played last night in Annapolis and a buddy who lives in town there and does a fair amount of remote recording showed up to document. He did a main pair and spotted the bass and guitar. But what was interesting is that his main pair (schoeps mk4 and mk8) had these little active cables (made by some third party) into a battery powered preamp. I do not know who made the cables- when I asked he said "a guy in Philly"- the battery preamp was a naiant. I only heard a few moments on some headphones aft the show, and in that instance of course it sounded fine, and this is just "to have" anyway, but do any of you have experience with a setup like this and how does it compare sonically to using the schoeps electronics? I was very surprised more than anything- of course it was compact and portable as hell which can go a long way....

[hank alrich]

Nate Najar > wrote:

> I played last night in Annapolis and a buddy who lives in town there and
>does a fair amount of remote recording showed up to document. He did a
>main pair and spotted the bass and guitar. But what was interesting is
>that his main pair (schoeps mk4 and mk8) had these little active cables
>(made by some third party) into a battery powered preamp. I do not
>know who made the cables- when I asked he said "a guy in Philly"- the
>battery preamp was a naiant. I only heard a few moments on some
>headphones aft the show, and in that instance of course it sounded
>fine, and this is just "to have" anyway, but do any of you have
>experience with a setup like this and how does it compare sonically to
>using the schoeps electronics? I was very surprised more than
>anything- of course it was compact and portable as hell which can go a
>long way....
>

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[William Sommerwerck]

http://www.posthorn.com/S_kcya.html

Schoeps itself has made capsule extenders for years.

I used to dream of owning the necessary Schoeps capsules and mounting them in
an Ambisonic array (using cyanoacrylate).

[Nate Najar]

Right but these were a third party aftermarket job. And they didn't extend to preamp bodies- they terminated with a small xlr connector if some type and into this naiant battery preamp. The only thing schoeps was the capsules themselves.....

[Scott Dorsey]

Nate Najar > wrote:
>I played last night in Annapolis and a buddy who lives in town there and do=
>es a fair amount of remote recording showed up to document. He did a main =
>pair and spotted the bass and guitar. But what was interesting is that his =
>main pair (schoeps mk4 and mk8) had these little active cables (made by som=
>e third party) into a battery powered preamp. I do not know who made the c=
>ables- when I asked he said "a guy in Philly"- the battery preamp was a nai=
>ant. I only heard a few moments on some headphones aft the show, and in th=
>at instance of course it sounded fine, and this is just "to have" anyway, b=
>ut do any of you have experience with a setup like this and how does it com=
>pare sonically to using the schoeps electronics? I was very surprised more=
> than anything- of course it was compact and portable as hell which can go =
>a long way....

A guy named Reutelhuber made a couple systems like this back in the nineties.
They were very popular with people bootlegging concerts which might be why he
stopped. I believe they were the KCY active cable with a homebrew power supply.

I don't know how they compared with the full Schoeps electronics, although I
would suspect they could not drive a very long cable.

I do know that Schoeps now makes the CCM series of microphones which
does everything you want. Or you COULD use your existing mikes with
the KC active cables between the bodies and the capsules.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Tom McCreadie]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 21:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Nate Najar > wrote:

>
>But what was interesting is that his main pair (schoeps mk4 and mk8) had
>these little active cables (made by some third party) into a battery powered preamp.
>I do not know who made the cables- when I asked he said "a guy in Philly"- the battery
>preamp was a naiant. I only heard a few moments on some headphones
>aft the show, and in that instance of course it sounded fine, and this is just "to have"
>anyway, but do any of you have experience with a setup like this
>and how does it compare sonically to using the schoeps electronics?

Ask over at the The Taperssection Forums (http://www.taperssection.com/)

The Naiant manufacturer, Jon Stoppable, hangs out there and contributes
regularly. His products (littlebox, tinybox etc) are popular with the 'stealth
taper community' and he can customize them to meet the varied requirements,
such as matching different capsule types (Schoeps, AKG..) and preamp ouput
destination (xlr, miniplug...). I'm unsure if he actually makes his own active
cables, but there's lots of info in the TS Knowledge Base, and within the "'Team
Schoeps" group, (Moreover, I recall there being a regular who offers a
good-value custom-cable construction service.)
--
Tom McCreadie

"I can't wait to grow old and pretend I'm deaf." - Billy Connolly