Touring Advice

[Jeff Henig]

Hey, all!

I'm working on some solo gigs (both a cappella/church and
instrumental/secular) and looking at the best way to deal with venues,
multiple revenue streams, etc. without acting like a psychotic
gold-digger. I've been involved in some way/shape/form in the Christian
music arena off and on for around 20 years, but I've been stupid and not
paid as close attention as I should to what's effective rather than
"doing things the way they've always been done".

I've read Krasilovsky and Shemel's "This Business of Music" and "More
About This Business of Music", as well as J. Dearing's "Making Money
Making Music" (many moons ago). I'm in the middle of "The Music Industry
Self-Help Guide" by Michael Repel.

What is another good source of info in this area (book, video, or
otherwise)? I've looked online--which is how I found the Repel book, but
I'd like to hear from some people whose expertise and character I know
and respect on the matter.

I guess that means I shouldn't ask here... <cough>

But seriously, I trust the opinions of those on this list a whole heck
of a lot more than an Amazon review or even another NG where I know no one.

I want to do this right.

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---Jeff

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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 9/27/2014 6:39 PM, Jeff Henig wrote:

> I'm working on some solo gigs (both a cappella/church and
> instrumental/secular) and looking at the best way to deal with venues,
> multiple revenue streams, etc. without acting like a psychotic
> gold-digger.

Best way to do that is to hire a good manager and keep out of his or her
way.

> I've read Krasilovsky and Shemel's "This Business of Music" and "More
> About This Business of Music", as well as J. Dearing's "Making Money
> Making Music" (many moons ago). I'm in the middle of "The Music Industry
> Self-Help Guide" by Michael Repel.
>
> What is another good source of info in this area (book, video, or
> otherwise)?

If you feel like you're getting something useful from books, try Project
Management for Musicians by Jonathan Feist, published by Berklee Press.
It's heavy stuff, but presented using terminology that's familiar to
musicians rather than generic terms that they used in a couple of
project management classes that I had to take in my life as an
engineering manager.

What you'll learn from the book is a process for systematically
identifying all the parts that have to come together in order to reach
your goal or goals for the project, and making sure that you're aware of
the resources required and when every piece has to be completed before
some other piece is started.

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[hank alrich]

Mike Rivers > wrote:

> Project Management for Musicians by Jonathan Feist, published by Berklee
> Press

Thanks, Mike. Not bad, for a banjo player.

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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 9/27/2014 11:24 PM, hank alrich wrote:
> Mike Rivers > wrote:
>> Project Management for Musicians by Jonathan Feist, published by Berklee
>> Press

> Thanks, Mike. Not bad, for a banjo player.

It didn't help my banjo playing any, but understanding the project
management process was helpful when I was putting 120 new ILSs at
airports 15 years ago. I wonder if they still work.



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[polymod]

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ...

On 9/27/2014 6:39 PM, Jeff Henig wrote:

> I'm working on some solo gigs (both a cappella/church and
> instrumental/secular) and looking at the best way to deal with venues,
> multiple revenue streams, etc. without acting like a psychotic
> gold-digger.

Best way to do that is to hire a good manager and keep out of his or her
way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Amen, and amen.

Poly

[Scott Dorsey]

polymod > wrote:
>"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ...
>
>On 9/27/2014 6:39 PM, Jeff Henig wrote:
>
>> I'm working on some solo gigs (both a cappella/church and
>> instrumental/secular) and looking at the best way to deal with venues,
>> multiple revenue streams, etc. without acting like a psychotic
>> gold-digger.
>
>Best way to do that is to hire a good manager and keep out of his or her
>way.

You absolutely need to have a tour manager. And that tour manager might
be somebody's wife or husband in the band, or it might be some retiree
in your church congregation, and it might well be a volunteer who would
like to take a little vacation with the group. It might even be one member
of the band who is assigned the job although I strongly suggest this will
lead to fighting.

If you're actually making money it becomes more difficult, but that is
seldom a problem....
--scott

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[polymod]

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ...

polymod > wrote:
>"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ...
>
>On 9/27/2014 6:39 PM, Jeff Henig wrote:
>
>> I'm working on some solo gigs (both a cappella/church and
>> instrumental/secular) and looking at the best way to deal with venues,
>> multiple revenue streams, etc. without acting like a psychotic
>> gold-digger.
>
>Best way to do that is to hire a good manager and keep out of his or her
>way.

You absolutely need to have a tour manager. And that tour manager might
be somebody's wife or husband in the band, or it might be some retiree
in your church congregation, and it might well be a volunteer who would
like to take a little vacation with the group. It might even be one member
of the band who is assigned the job although I strongly suggest this will
lead to fighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Couldn't agree more. I toured with a popular band from the late 60's early
60's and the manager was the husband of one of the lead singers.
Saw quite a few "let's get ready to rumble" performances there!

Poly

[polymod]

"polymod" wrote in message ...

<snippage>

Couldn't agree more. I toured with a popular band from the late 60's early
60's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

sorry....meant late 50's early 60's.

Poly