Big band, bad room II - which preamps?

[Willie K.Yee, M.D.]

Supposin', just supposin, I were to use the setup proposed by Rich
Davidian (offline). Which preamp would you use going into a Fostex
8-track VM200 then to hard disk:

What I have:

Symetrix 202 - older(/) one with the three output jacks
Symetrix 202 - with the five output jacks
Grace 101
RNP
Also a Countryman DI and a Rolls DI
There are 4 pres on the Fostex which could be used though I don't know
why I would.
I could also borrow a Peavey VMP-1.

The proposed set up:

SM-81 stereo pair X-Y in front/over the whole big band

AKG 414 looking down over mid-upper strings in piano (lid at
half-stick?) Or DI the electric keys

DI the bass. Or - a 4050 cardioid on the amp

DI the guitar. OR - RE20 on the guitar amp

4050 hyper-card 3ft. up over the drum kit where the snare and HH
meet...looking down (nearest horns in the null.)

Direct feed of the vocalist mic to the recorder and one more track of
a PA send to get the soloists OR
M-160 out front of the lead trumpet (and his neighbors?)


My initial thoughts would be use the RNP on the stereo pair, the Grace
on the M-160, and the Symetrixes (Symetrices?) on the other mics. The
Countryman would go on the bass.

For those who did not read the earlier thread, this is to be a live
recording of a big band in a lousy shoebox converted storefront, over
which I suspect I will have little control of the situation. I have
plenty of ideas a options about how I will end up actually doing it.
This is Just a question about matching mics and pres.

Thanks again for your thoughts.
Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://www.bestweb.net/~wkyee
Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org

[Richard Kuschel]

>Supposin', just supposin, I were to use the setup proposed by Rich
>Davidian (offline). Which preamp would you use going into a Fostex
>8-track VM200 then to hard disk:
>
>What I have:
>
>Symetrix 202 - older(/) one with the three output jacks

Actually, this is the newer Symetrix, the old one had 5 jacks.

>Symetrix 202 - with the five output jacks
>Grace 101
>RNP
>Also a Countryman DI and a Rolls DI
>There are 4 pres on the Fostex which could be used though I don't know
>why I would.
>I could also borrow a Peavey VMP-1.
>
>The proposed set up:
>
>SM-81 stereo pair X-Y in front/over the whole big band
>
>AKG 414 looking down over mid-upper strings in piano (lid at
>half-stick?) Or DI the electric keys


Take the lid off the piano and use the 414 with the null parallel to the floor
mYou'll get better sound and less bleed

>
>DI the bass. Or - a 4050 cardioid on the amp

Miking the amp sounds better, but if I have channels, I use both
>
>DI the guitar. OR - RE20 on the guitar amp

Do not DI guitar.
>
>4050 hyper-card 3ft. up over the drum kit where the snare and HH
>meet...looking down (nearest horns in the null.)
>
>Direct feed of the vocalist mic to the recorder and one more track of
>a PA send to get the soloists OR
>M-160 out front of the lead trumpet (and his neighbors?)
>


Either will wotk.



>My initial thoughts would be use the RNP on the stereo pair, the Grace
>on the M-160, and the Symetrixes (Symetrices?) on the other mics. The
>Countryman would go on the bass.
>
>For those who did not read the earlier thread, this is to be a live
>recording of a big band in a lousy shoebox converted storefront, over
>which I suspect I will have little control of the situation. I have
>plenty of ideas a options about how I will end up actually doing it.
>This is Just a question about matching mics and pres.

If you can get the peavey, use it for bass and guitar.
that preamp really shines there.

>
>Thanks again for your thoughts.
>Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://www.bestweb.net/~wkyee
>Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com
>Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band
http://www.bigbluebigband.org
>



Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty