What do you all think about the Sennheiser E604?

[Paul[_13_]]

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-E604-Dynamic-Cardioid-Snare/dp/B0002H0SYE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

A client of mine used it on his snare, and it sounded
quite good to me, once I compressed and EQed it correctly
to my taste.

Since the band is a poor start-up, he suggested trading my
recording services for one of these mics (he has something like
4 of them). He suggested it was worth $90 of recording time,
but an Ebay search makes me feel $80 would be about right....

[John Williamson]

On 08/04/2014 15:08, Paul wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-E604-Dynamic-Cardioid-Snare/dp/B0002H0SYE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
>
> A client of mine used it on his snare, and it sounded
> quite good to me, once I compressed and EQed it correctly
> to my taste.
>
> Since the band is a poor start-up, he suggested trading my
> recording services for one of these mics (he has something like
> 4 of them). He suggested it was worth $90 of recording time,
> but an Ebay search makes me feel $80 would be about right....
>
Well, if you're worried about ten bucks, how rigidly are you timing the
sessions?

I charge a fixed price for mobile sessions up to four hours, and don't
worry too much if they run half an hour or so over. Then again, I don't
have another band waiting outside to set up in my studio (Which I don't
have anyway).

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Tciao for Now!

John.

[Nate Najar]

Meh

Do you need a cheap dynamic?

It ain't bad but there are plenty of inexpensive mics I'd use before I ever plugged one of those in. I say do the recording as a favor or make him give you cash. It isn't enough money to worry about.

Now if he wanted to trade a u87 for a few days of recording that's a different story....

[Paul[_13_]]

On 4/8/2014 7:47 AM, Nate Najar wrote:
> Meh
>
> Do you need a cheap dynamic?
>
> It ain't bad but there are plenty of inexpensive mics I'd use before I ever plugged one of those in. I say do the recording as a favor or make him give you cash. It isn't enough money to worry about.
>
> Now if he wanted to trade a u87 for a few days of recording that's a different story....
>

Well, it did a decent job, certainly around SM57 territory, and $80
is still a chunk for my situation.

But the impressive part was how small and compact and in-obtrusive
this mic is. No long boom arm getting in the drummer's way, and I loved
how it clipped onto the rim.

[Sean Conolly]

"Paul" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-E604-Dynamic-Cardioid-Snare/dp/B0002H0SYE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
> A client of mine used it on his snare, and it sounded
> quite good to me, once I compressed and EQed it correctly
> to my taste.
>
> Since the band is a poor start-up, he suggested trading my
> recording services for one of these mics (he has something like
> 4 of them). He suggested it was worth $90 of recording time,
> but an Ebay search makes me feel $80 would be about right....

The trouble with clip on drum mics is shock noise, and trying to keep that
under control. Picture the drummer using cross-stick rim shots, for
instance.

I use them live for convenience, but nothing but stand-mounted mics for
recording. For snare I'd take a 57 on a stand over a E604 any day.

Sean

[Scott Dorsey]

Nate Najar > wrote:
>Meh
>
>Do you need a cheap dynamic?

Yes, you always need a cheap dynamic.

>It ain't bad but there are plenty of inexpensive mics I'd use before I ever plugged one of those in. I say do the recording as a favor or make him give you cash. It isn't enough money to worry about.

I'd tend to agree, but if you're that broke, it's a useful cheap dynamic.
Same goes for the AKG D880... they ain't no 441 or RE-20, but when you need
a cheap dynamic, they're a step up from a 57.

>Now if he wanted to trade a u87 for a few days of recording that's a different story....

I did that with a pair of U47s, back when they weren't worth anything much.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Paul[_13_]]

On 4/8/2014 7:58 AM, Sean Conolly wrote:
> "Paul" > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-E604-Dynamic-Cardioid-Snare/dp/B0002H0SYE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>>
>> A client of mine used it on his snare, and it sounded
>> quite good to me, once I compressed and EQed it correctly
>> to my taste.
>>
>> Since the band is a poor start-up, he suggested trading my
>> recording services for one of these mics (he has something like
>> 4 of them). He suggested it was worth $90 of recording time,
>> but an Ebay search makes me feel $80 would be about right....
>
> The trouble with clip on drum mics is shock noise, and trying to keep that
> under control. Picture the drummer using cross-stick rim shots, for
> instance.
>
> I use them live for convenience, but nothing but stand-mounted mics for
> recording. For snare I'd take a 57 on a stand over a E604 any day.
>

Hmm, I didn't really notice any shock noise, but then the drummer
didn't make any snare rim shots, so I'm not sure if that would bother me.

But that's something to listen for, for sure.

To bad, because it seems so snazzy to clip the mic onto the
drum!

Perhaps the E604 would be better as a tom mic, where you don't
really make intentional rim shots?

[Sean Conolly]

"Paul" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/8/2014 7:58 AM, Sean Conolly wrote:
>> "Paul" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-E604-Dynamic-Cardioid-Snare/dp/B0002H0SYE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>>>
>>> A client of mine used it on his snare, and it sounded
>>> quite good to me, once I compressed and EQed it correctly
>>> to my taste.
>>>
>>> Since the band is a poor start-up, he suggested trading my
>>> recording services for one of these mics (he has something like
>>> 4 of them). He suggested it was worth $90 of recording time,
>>> but an Ebay search makes me feel $80 would be about right....
>>
>> The trouble with clip on drum mics is shock noise, and trying to keep
>> that
>> under control. Picture the drummer using cross-stick rim shots, for
>> instance.
>>
>> I use them live for convenience, but nothing but stand-mounted mics for
>> recording. For snare I'd take a 57 on a stand over a E604 any day.
>>
>
> Hmm, I didn't really notice any shock noise, but then the drummer
> didn't make any snare rim shots, so I'm not sure if that would bother me.
>
> But that's something to listen for, for sure.
>
> To bad, because it seems so snazzy to clip the mic onto the
> drum!
>
> Perhaps the E604 would be better as a tom mic, where you don't
> really make intentional rim shots?

That's just one case - every drum hit is going to be felt distinctly on the
rim. If the mic has excellant internal isolation, and it's attached to the
iso-rim where the tom mounts the difference may be inaudible. The Shure 98
and Audix Micro-D do very good job at it, but they also list over $200.

If space is tight on stage I'll use an LP Claw to mount the snare mic to the
bottom rim, but I still don't think it sounds as good as a mic on a stand.

I did one comparison where I put two 57s on a high tom, one on a claw and
one on a stand, and there was always a certain amount of thump in the
attached mic that wasn't picked up by the stand mic - and everyone in the
band could clearly hear it.

That's just my experience - please try it yourself. You may not hear a
difference, or not enough to worry about, or you might decide it even sounds
better.

Sean

[Scott Dorsey]

Just because the mike comes with a clip that allows you to put it on the
side of a drum doesn't mean you actually have to USE that clip.

Although to be honest, if you're looking for small spot mikes that you can
stick inside drum kits and things, I'll take the EV N/D 408 and N/D 468
hands down over the E604.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."