Jack surgery on wired classical guitar.

[Tobiah]

I know this may be off topic.

I have a nice Takamini classical that has its
own pickup and a neat little effects section built
into the guitar.

So, a while back, I plugged a crap cable into the
guitar, and the little tip of the plug stayed in
the jack when I pulled the cable out. Now I can't insert
another cable because the tip was left behind
(I know, there is probably a leprosy joke in there).

So I unscrewed the jack to take a look. It's entirely
enclosed in a sealed cylinder. There is no way to
get the offending piece out other then through the
port by which it arrived.

So of course, I ordered another jack, but I'm scared
to install it, because when I remove the original jack,
I can only pull it out just enough to barely see the
solder joints. I thought that maybe if I took the strings
off, and found out how to remove the effects unit, I
might have better luck, but otherwise I don't really
know what's going on inside the guitar.

One thought crossed my mind: what if I take an old
cable and put a dab of 60 second epoxy on it, and insert
it into the jack as far as it will go, and wait a while,
then try to remove the tip that way? Since the jack is
enclosed, the worst I could do would be to limit my
options to replacing the jack, which is pretty much
what I've got going now.

Thanks for any insight.

Tobiah

[Nate Najar]

Remove the strings, unscrew the jack and and bring it back out through the sound hole. You'll be able to find the missing tip and then if you need to you can replace the jack with the new one. You'll have to fish a line through the hole in the end block to pull the jack back through....

[Tobiah]

On 03/12/2014 09:54 PM, Nate Najar wrote:
> Remove the strings, unscrew the jack and and bring it back out
> through the sound hole. You'll be able to find the missing tip and
> then if you need to you can replace the jack with the new one.
> You'll have to fish a line through the hole in the end block to pull
> the jack back through....
>

The jack has a flange on it that is larger than the hole that it
fits in. The jack is screwed into the body through this flange
with three tiny screws.

Tobiah

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 3/13/2014 6:55 PM, Tobiah wrote:
> The jack has a flange on it that is larger than the hole that it
> fits in. The jack is screwed into the body through this flange
> with three tiny screws.

In that case, remove the screws, then remove the jack. Or take it to a
guitar repair person. Don't break your guitar.

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[Gareth Magennis]

"Tobiah" > wrote in message
...
>I know this may be off topic.
>
> I have a nice Takamini classical that has its
> own pickup and a neat little effects section built
> into the guitar.
>
> So, a while back, I plugged a crap cable into the
> guitar, and the little tip of the plug stayed in
> the jack when I pulled the cable out. Now I can't insert
> another cable because the tip was left behind
> (I know, there is probably a leprosy joke in there).
>
> So I unscrewed the jack to take a look. It's entirely
> enclosed in a sealed cylinder. There is no way to
> get the offending piece out other then through the
> port by which it arrived.
>
> So of course, I ordered another jack, but I'm scared
> to install it, because when I remove the original jack,
> I can only pull it out just enough to barely see the
> solder joints. I thought that maybe if I took the strings
> off, and found out how to remove the effects unit, I
> might have better luck, but otherwise I don't really
> know what's going on inside the guitar.
>
> One thought crossed my mind: what if I take an old
> cable and put a dab of 60 second epoxy on it, and insert
> it into the jack as far as it will go, and wait a while,
> then try to remove the tip that way? Since the jack is
> enclosed, the worst I could do would be to limit my
> options to replacing the jack, which is pretty much
> what I've got going now.
>
> Thanks for any insight.
>
> Tobiah


Sometimes you will find the jack socket wiring plugs into the preamplifier.
You might be able to find it and detatch it if your hand is small enough.
Best bet though is to find out how to remove the effects/preamp thingy, as
then all will be clear.

A mirror on a stick can be handy to look at how things are run inside the
guitar, sometimes the cables are tied onto self adhesive pads with enough
slack so you can undo the twist tie and remove the jack socket.


Gareth.

[Tobiah]

> Sometimes you will find the jack socket wiring plugs into the preamplifier.
> You might be able to find it and detatch it if your hand is small enough.
> Best bet though is to find out how to remove the effects/preamp thingy, as
> then all will be clear.
>
> A mirror on a stick can be handy to look at how things are run inside the
> guitar, sometimes the cables are tied onto self adhesive pads with enough
> slack so you can undo the twist tie and remove the jack socket.

Yeah, a friend has a device that sports a camera mounted on the end of
a flexible cable and an LCD display. If the cable does plug into the
effects unit, then I'll be good to go. I also think it's likely that
the cable is actually long enough, but is clipped to the guitar on the
inside somewhere to keep it from flopping around.

Tobiah

[gareth magennis]

"Tobiah" wrote in message ...

> Sometimes you will find the jack socket wiring plugs into the
> preamplifier.
> You might be able to find it and detatch it if your hand is small enough.
> Best bet though is to find out how to remove the effects/preamp thingy, as
> then all will be clear.
>
> A mirror on a stick can be handy to look at how things are run inside the
> guitar, sometimes the cables are tied onto self adhesive pads with enough
> slack so you can undo the twist tie and remove the jack socket.

Yeah, a friend has a device that sports a camera mounted on the end of
a flexible cable and an LCD display. If the cable does plug into the
effects unit, then I'll be good to go. I also think it's likely that
the cable is actually long enough, but is clipped to the guitar on the
inside somewhere to keep it from flopping around.

Tobiah



I have also found that the plug and socket can be inline and halfway between
pre-amp and output jack.

Lots of different ways of doing this.



Gareth.