2014 Daytona 500 - Headsets?

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On Mike, Larry, and Darrell?

Look like Sennies.

[MG[_4_]]

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>On Mike, Larry, and Darrell?

>Look like Sennies.

Generally HMD 25 or 26 used for TV sports.

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:57:42 PM UTC-5, MG wrote:
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Confirms what I thought. Would it be safe to assume the consumer version(HD-25?) would be just as accurate, listening-wise?

[Ralph Barone[_2_]]

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> On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:57:42 PM UTC-5, MG wrote:
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>>> On Mike, Larry, and Darrell?
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>>> Look like Sennies.
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>> Generally HMD 25 or 26 used for TV sports.
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> Confirms what I thought. Would it be safe to assume the consumer
> version(HD-25?) would be just as accurate, listening-wise?

Why would one assume that accuracy would be a criteria for a headset used
at the Daytona 500?

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Ralph Barone wrote: "- show quoted text -
Why would one assume that accuracy would be a criteria for a headset used at the Daytona 500? "


The three hosts wearing the headsets in question were 20 stories above the finish line behind double-pane insulated glass in the Winston Tower(old names die hard!). So background noise was not an issue.

[Scott Dorsey]

Ralph Barone > wrote:
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>Why would one assume that accuracy would be a criteria for a headset used
>at the Daytona 500?

If I were setting up a booth at the Daytona 500, I'd take the David Clark
route, personally.
--scott

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[Ralph Barone[_2_]]

> wrote:
> Ralph Barone wrote: "- show quoted text -
> Why would one assume that accuracy would be a criteria for a headset used
> at the Daytona 500? "
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> The three hosts wearing the headsets in question were 20 stories above
> the finish line behind double-pane insulated glass in the Winston
> Tower(old names die hard!). So background noise was not an issue.

But still, they weren't mastering an album, but commenting on a car race.
If I was buying a headset for that purpose, I would be buying based on
voice intelligibility (which != accuracy), reliability and how it looks on
the camera.

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Ralph Barone never got my point:


If they're good enough for a sportscast I'm sure they're good enough for home use - the non-headset version.

[Ralph Barone[_2_]]

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> Ralph Barone never got my point:
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> If they're good enough for a sportscast I'm sure they're good enough for
> home use - the non-headset version.

Nor did you get my point. The function being fulfilled by those headsets in
that application would probably be met more closely by a telephone headset
than a pair of Stax headphones. I suspect you want to listen to music at
home. Ergo, that headset being the unit of choice for Daytona may not imply
that it's a good choice for you. Even the best hammer is a lousy pizza
cutter.

[UnsteadyKen]

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> The three hosts wearing the headsets in question were 20 stories
> above the finish line behind double-pane insulated glass in the
> Winston Tower(old names die hard!). So background noise was not an
issue.

Not an issue! Get real, I live over 3 miles from Rockingham Speedway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockingham_Motor_Speedway
and also have double glazing, when the Champ cars raced here in 2001 &
2002 we had to shout to be heard in the house during the practise
sessions, and at the track during the race when all the cars were at
full throttle together the noise was utterly stupendous, people were
complaining for miles around. Sound is cumulative, compare one person
shouting with 20,00 bellowing at a sports venue, big difference.

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-spl.htm

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UnsteadyKen

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

Ralph Barone wrote:

> > wrote:
>> Ralph Barone never got my point:

>> If they're good enough for a sportscast I'm sure they're good enough
>> for home use - the non-headset version.

> Nor did you get my point. The function being fulfilled by those
> headsets in that application would probably be met more closely by a
> telephone headset than a pair of Stax headphones. I suspect you want
> to listen to music at home. Ergo, that headset being the unit of
> choice for Daytona may not imply that it's a good choice for you.
> Even the best hammer is a lousy pizza cutter.

They (sp25, cheap as well as costly version) are great for live location
recording because of their smoothness and imaging that makes it easy to
evaluate mic setup and - probably what makes them sportscasters choice -
able to produce quite loud sound, loud enough to do the "earplugs +
headphones ploy" that allows increased signal to noise ratio if near a jazz
band. They are less great for multichannel recording and mixing due to their
"not bassheavy" tonal balance, but mostly it to me matters more to have a
smooth overall performance with no obvious peaks. Outside noise attenuation
is however modest.

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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Peter Larsen:

Good analysis! There must be away to find out if all Sennheiser did was just add talk functionality to the 25 but kept the existing consumer drivers which have earned praise similar to Peter's.

[Scott Dorsey]

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>Peter Larsen:
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>Good analysis! There must be away to find out if all Sennheiser did was just add talk functionality to the 25 but kept the existing consumer drivers which have earned praise similar to Peter's.

Hint: headsets aren't designed like headphones. There are headsets with
communications grade earphones and broadcast grade microphones and there are
headsets with broadcast grade headphones and communications grade microphones.
And there are plenty, plenty of DT100s out there. Horses for courses.
--scott

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