Guy selling speakers out of a white van

[Tobiah]

Ok, we all know the scam there. But today, a young man came to
my door (pretty nice house) and briefly explained that he worked
for so and so meat purveyors, and this other dude was sitting in
the truck which had some logo on the side. He briefly stumbled
over some bit with a casual smile about how there were extras for
some reason and I could get a super steal on some steak or fish.

I didn't make the connection at the time, but later I thought
about the white van speaker guys. I decided that it was exactly
the same ploy.

Tobiah

[William Sommerwerck]

"Tobiah" wrote in message ...

"...I could get a super steal on some steak or fish."

Did he offer you bass?

[Sean Conolly]

"Tobiah" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, we all know the scam there. But today, a young man came to
> my door (pretty nice house) and briefly explained that he worked
> for so and so meat purveyors, and this other dude was sitting in
> the truck which had some logo on the side. He briefly stumbled
> over some bit with a casual smile about how there were extras for
> some reason and I could get a super steal on some steak or fish.
>
> I didn't make the connection at the time, but later I thought
> about the white van speaker guys. I decided that it was exactly
> the same ploy.

Actually pretty common for meat, because it's usually not traceable back to
whomever they stole it from. I get someone like this once a year or so.

Sean

[hank alrich]

Tobiah > wrote:

> Ok, we all know the scam there.

Wonder if someday a semi truck and trailer rig will pull into a mall
parking lot, and start selling "extra" white vans?

--
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http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
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[PStamler]

The difference is that speakers can't give you food poisoning. Even the crummy speakers sold out of white vans.

Peace,
Paul

[Frank Stearns]

PStamler > writes:

>The difference is that speakers can't give you food poisoning. Even the crummy
speakers sold out of white vans.

The sound can, however, still give a person severe indigestion...

Frank
Mobile Audio
--

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 7/9/2013 2:35 AM, PStamler wrote:
> The difference is that speakers can't give you food poisoning. Even
> the crummy speakers sold out of white vans.

Ah, but the cabinets might be made of illegal wood and can get you
arrested.

--
For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com

[hank alrich]

PStamler > wrote:

> The difference is that speakers can't give you food poisoning. Even the
> crummy speakers sold out of white vans.

Assuming one does not eat the speakers.

--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic

[[email protected]]

On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:31:35 PM UTC-5, Tobiah wrote:
> Ok, we all know the scam there. But today, a young man came to
>
> my door (pretty nice house) and briefly explained that he worked
>
> for so and so meat purveyors, and this other dude was sitting in
>
> the truck which had some logo on the side. He briefly stumbled
>
> over some bit with a casual smile about how there were extras for
>
> some reason and I could get a super steal on some steak or fish.
>
>
>
> I didn't make the connection at the time, but later I thought
>
> about the white van speaker guys. I decided that it was exactly
>
> the same ploy.
>
>
>
> Tobiah



My former brother-in-law actually fell for the speaker scam (in Chicago). He should have known better...but hadn't lived in the city all that long.

And yes--he bought them out of the back of a van.

<grin>

Mike

[HIO]

I fell for the speakers out of the van trick and when I got home I
realized after plugging them up that i had been bamboozled.

Right then a buddy of mine who went to all of my gigs walked in and took
one look at them and desperately wanted to buy them from me even after I
made him listen to them, so I sold them at cost.

He was so proud of those good looking spaeakers.

--
Here In Oregon

Twitter: I don't tweet, I leave that to the birds.
MySpace: Then put a lock on it.
Facebook: Ever hear of the term identity theft?

[William Sommerwerck]

This happened to me over 15 years ago -- in an Office Depot parking lot. I
have a youthful face, and many people see "sucker" written on my forehead. I
knew their game, and told them I owned Apogee Divas (which they'd never heard
of). When I told them the retail price of these speakers, the leader of the
pack grew extremely angry -- "You could buy a good used car for that!".

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
> When I told them the retail price of these speakers,

What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!

[Scott Dorsey]

None > wrote:
>"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
>> When I told them the retail price of these speakers,
>
>What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
>of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!

Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers.
You get more mileage from the white van speakers.
Next phase, new wave...
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[None]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
> None > wrote:
>>"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
>>> When I told them the retail price of these speakers,
>>
>>What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
>>of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!
>
> Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers.
> You get more mileage from the white van speakers.
> Next phase, new wave...

Bad speakers from a clean white Econoline van. (If you're stomping on
the avenue with a large sum of money to spend.)

[Ron C[_2_]]

On 7/9/2013 8:08 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> None > wrote:
>> "William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> When I told them the retail price of these speakers,
>>
>> What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
>> of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!
>
> Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers.
> You get more mileage from the white van speakers.
> Next phase, new wave...
> --scott
>

...paraphrased many ways,
it's still Billy Joel to me.
==
Later...
Ron Capik
--

[William Sommerwerck]

"None" wrote in message
m...
"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...

>> When I told them the retail price of these speakers...

> What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
> of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!

Your handle pretty much describes your meaningful contributions to this group.

Has it occurred to you that -- all question of ego aside -- I might have been
trying to deliver some well-deserved humiliation?

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
>>> When I told them the retail price of these speakers...
>
>> What kind of blowhard brags about the retail price
>> of his speakers? I guess we have the answer!
>
> Has it occurred to you that -- all question of ego aside -- I might
> have been trying to deliver some well-deserved humiliation?

Until you mentioned it, no it didn't occur to me.
As for "all questions of eqo aside," there's no
way that applies to you. But now that I've given
it a few moments of thought, you're lame ratioanlization
doesn't hold water.

It's not very likely that your bragadoccio would
humiliate anyone. The only one that should be
humiliated would be you, but you don't have that
level of self-awareness. No, it's cleat that you
just took the opportunity to brag. And to someone
that really couldn't give a **** how much your
speakers cost (that probably would apply to most
people that read this newsgroup, as well as anyone
else to whom you've uttered this bloatarian boast).

Nope, my first impression was the best, and it's
backed up by your history here. Pointless self-
serving bragging. Certainly intended to masturbate
your own ego, possibly successfully; and clearly
intended to make others thing better of you, a
certain failure. You're probably too old and
thick-headed to ever get that message through
your granite skull.

Thanks for the laugh, li'l buddy.

[William Sommerwerck]

I find it interesting that you hide behind a UseNet tree, stepping out only to
take potshots.

[S. King]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:12:57 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote:

> I find it interesting that you hide behind a UseNet tree, stepping out
> only to take potshots.

I wonder about that, too. But, I wonder more about the need to dish out
"some well deserved humiliation." When one dishes out humiliation it is
not done for the benefit of the dishee; it is done for the benefit of the
disher. I've done it myself, and I've always felt a little dirty, a
little ashamed afterwards. "None", is of course correct. None of this
will strike home with you.

Steve King

[William Sommerwerck]

"S. King" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:12:57 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>> I find it interesting that you hide behind a UseNet tree, stepping out
>> only to take potshots.

> I wonder about that, too. But, I wonder more about the need to dish
> out "some well deserved humiliation." When one dishes out humiliation
> it is not done for the benefit of the dishee; it is done for the benefit of
> the disher. I've done it myself, and I've always felt a little dirty, a
> little
> ashamed afterwards. "None", is of course correct. None of this will
> strike home with you.

In this case, no.

These are people selling stolen merchandise and/or grossly misrepresenting
what they sell. I'm supposed to respect them and ignore what they're doing?

If I have the opportunity to embarrass or humiliate them -- why shouldn't I?

Please don't tell me that I'm doing something "wrong" or inhumane. Because I'm
not.

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
> "S. King" wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:12:57 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>
>>> I find it interesting that you hide behind a UseNet tree, stepping
>>> out
>>> only to take potshots.
>
>> I wonder about that, too. But, I wonder more about the need to dish
>> out "some well deserved humiliation." When one dishes out
>> humiliation
>> it is not done for the benefit of the dishee; it is done for the
>> benefit of
>> the disher. I've done it myself, and I've always felt a little
>> dirty, a little
>> ashamed afterwards. "None", is of course correct. None of this will
>> strike home with you.
>
> In this case, no.
>
> These are people selling stolen merchandise and/or grossly
> misrepresenting what they sell.

My understanding of the standard scam is that it's misrepresenting,
but not stolen. That accusation is, I believe, just baseless
speculation.

> I'm supposed to respect them and ignore what they're doing?

I don't think anyone suggested that.

> If I have the opportunity to embarrass or humiliate them -- why
> shouldn't I?

Because it's despicable behaviour, as is their dishonest scam.
Two wrongs make a right? It's demeaning to you, although you
don't seem to care about your own reputation, and it has no effect
on them, which you also don't seem to care about.

> Please don't tell me that I'm doing something "wrong" or inhumane.
> Because I'm not.

I never suggest "inhumane", and I don't thing anyone else did.
Have you defeated all the strawmen that you created now?
You have done nothing which would humiliate or in any way
discourage them. Surely they thought you wera a pompous
****head, and then promptly forgot you and tried to sell to
someone else. I guess you consider that some kind of
victory. Maybe you're such a loser that this was actually
a positive turn in your life.

But you're being a jerk for your own amusement, NOBODY else
suffers for it; not them, they aren't impressed with your bragging;
and apparently not anyone here, who clearly aren't impressed with
your bragging about the cost of your speakers, and aren't impressed
with your bragging about your bragging either.

You're making a proud display of being a dickhead. You could have
just walked away, but you chose instead to be an asshole, hurting
nobody but yourself, although you don't really seem to give a ****
about your reputation as an asshole. You seem to be proud of being
an asshole. And then you whine when people wont' hire you.

Granite-skulled and clueless, and proud of it. Once again,
thanks for the chuckle, li'l buddy.

[William Sommerwerck]

>> I'm supposed to respect them and ignore what they're doing?

> I don't think anyone suggested that.

Of course you did. What do you think ignoring their behavior is, if not
"respect" for their tender feelings?


>> If I have the opportunity to embarrass or humiliate them -- why shouldn't
>> I?

> Because it's despicable behaviour, as is their dishonest scam.
> Two wrongs make a right? It's demeaning to you, although you
> don't seem to care about your own reputation, and it has no effect
> on them, which you also don't seem to care about.

I assume that should someone break into your house, you'll compliment them on
their haircut or nice clothes, right?

A person who snipes from hiding, simply to abuse people because he has nothing
better to do with his time and can get away with it, has NO RIGHT to criticize
anyone else's behavior. NO RIGHT, you crummy, sniveling coward.


> But you're being a jerk for your own amusement, NOBODY else
> suffers for it; not them, they aren't impressed with your bragging;
> and apparently not anyone here, who clearly aren't impressed with
> your bragging about the cost of your speakers, and aren't impressed
> with your bragging about your bragging either.

Oh, but they were "impressed" -- impressed enough to get very angry.

Why do you think people who do "bad" things are immune from public criticism?


> You're making a proud display of being a dickhead.

I sure am proud of it. Someone is being a dickhead for attacking people trying
to rip off people? Come on, now.

The only thing I regret is not having sat there and warned off potential
customers.

[Tom McCreadie]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

>I sure am proud of it. Someone is being a dickhead for attacking people trying
>to rip off people? Come on, now.
..
So gratuitous boasting about the cost of your
speakers constitutes "attacking" those rip-off artists?

Reminds me of that old Monty Python 'Spanish Inquistion' torture sketch:
"Oh no, no, please, no....not the comfy cushion!" :-)
--
Tom McCreadie

[William Sommerwerck]

"Tom McCreadie" wrote in message
...
William Sommerwerck wrote:

>> I sure am proud of it. Someone is being a dickhead for
>> attacking people trying to rip off people? Come on, now.
..
> So gratuitous boasting about the cost of your
> speakers constitutes "attacking" those rip-off artists?

It worked! The guy got really upset.

It wasn't completely gratuitous. These guys were boasting about how great and
how expensive (in terms of the claimed list price) these speakers. I simply
threw the truth back in their faces.

[PStamler]

William:

Perhaps you should have taken a more effective action -- calling the cops. That might have prevented the van guys from victimizing anyone else.

Peace,
Paul

[William Sommerwerck]

"PStamler" wrote in message
...

> Perhaps you should have taken a more effective action --
> calling the cops. That might have prevented the van guys
> from victimizing anyone else.

You're probably right. It didn't occur to me at the time.

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
>>> I'm supposed to respect them and ignore what they're doing?
>
>> I don't think anyone suggested that.
>
> Of course you did.

Bull****. Nothing I wrote stated or even implied it.
Your own imagination at work.

> What do you think ignoring their behavior is, if not "respect" for
> their tender feelings?

I neither stated nor implied anything about respecting
them, and certainly nothing about anyone's "tender
feelings." You're just making this **** up. I was thinking
maybe you'd show some respect for yourself, but
apparently that ship has sailed.

Ignoring their behavior is simply ignoring their
behavior.

>>> If I have the opportunity to embarrass or humiliate them -- why
>>> shouldn't I?
>
>> Because it's despicable behaviour, as is their dishonest scam.
>> Two wrongs make a right? It's demeaning to you, although you
>> don't seem to care about your own reputation, and it has no effect
>> on them, which you also don't seem to care about.
>
> I assume that should someone break into your house, you'll
> compliment them on their haircut or nice clothes, right?

Why would you assume that? Because you already make
a ridiculous bull**** assumption you're just trying to smear
it with more bull****? You're way outside of reality here,
but that's nothing new.

> A person who snipes from hiding, simply to abuse people because he
> has nothing better to do with his time and can get away with it, has
> NO RIGHT to criticize anyone else's behavior. NO RIGHT, you crummy,
> sniveling coward.

I have as much right as anyone else to criticize you
for being a dickhead. Your little tantrums have as much
effect on me as your egotism had against the white
vanizens. That is, no effect.

>> But you're being a jerk for your own amusement, NOBODY else
>> suffers for it; not them, they aren't impressed with your bragging;
>> and apparently not anyone here, who clearly aren't impressed with
>> your bragging about the cost of your speakers, and aren't impressed
>> with your bragging about your bragging either.
>
> Oh, but they were "impressed" -- impressed enough to get very angry.
>
> Why do you think people who do "bad" things are immune from public
> criticism?

I don't. But you didn't mention criticizing them. Just bragging.

>> You're making a proud display of being a dickhead.
>
> I sure am proud of it. Someone is being a dickhead for attacking
> people trying to rip off people? Come on, now.

But you didn't attack them. You tried to inflate their
ego by boasting. Yes, you are proud of being a dickhead.

> The only thing I regret is not having sat there and warned off
> potential customers.

Yeah, you could have done something useful. Instead, you
did something utterly self-serving which had no effect on them.
And then you bragged about it here.

[William Sommerwerck]

"None" wrote in message
...

I love the way "None" -- like so many other irritating, useless UseNet
posters -- insists that speech has no connotations -- that if he didn't say
something in so many words, he didn't say it at all.

I might as well say what you want me to say... I own an expensive,
high-quality surround system. It has Apogee planar speakers, and most of the
electronics were designed by John Curl, who is a good friend. It sounds great,
I'm proud to own it, and I sincerely wish everyone could have as good a
system.

I also own a Pinoneer PRO-151 60" plasma TV, the last of its kind. I am also
proud to own it.

There. Does that make you happy?

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
> "None" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I love the way "None" -- like so many other irritating, useless
> UseNet posters -- insists that speech has no connotations -- that if
> he didn't say something in so many words, he didn't say it at all.

You can attempt to put words in my mouth, but if
I never said them, and I never meant them, they won't
stick. It has nothing to do with what I said or meant.
It has a lot to do with your fertile imagination, fertilize
with bull manure.

> I might as well say what you want me to say...

I don't want you to say anything. You seem to imagine
that you can read my mind. You can't. All you're doing
is reading your own mind, which is obsessed with
the clearly mistaken belief that your superior. You're not.

> I own an expensive, high-quality surround system.

Really, nobody but you gives a flying **** how
expensive your speakers are. Nobody. But it seems
that such a simple and obvious conclusion is
beyond the comprehension of your egotistical
little mind.

> <Willy's crap flushed>

> There. Does that make you happy?

I really don't give a **** about your speakers. It's amazing
that you think reciting the details of your compensation
for your insecurity about your manhood means anything
to anyone. It neither humiliated nor punished the white
van-dals, and it is neither a put-down to me, nor is it
anything that would make me happy (or sad), and is has
nothing to do with anything I might have wanted you to say.

You're bragging about your system because you think
it makes you important, or better than others. It doesn't.
It makes you look like an asshole, which is carrying
coals to Newcastle. But it's still an entertaining comedy
routine, li'l buddy.

[William Sommerwerck]

"None" wrote in message
m...
"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
> "None" wrote in message
> ...

> You're bragging about your system because you think
> it makes you important, or better than others. It doesn't.
> It makes you look like an asshole, which is carrying
> coals to Newcastle. But it's still an entertaining comedy
> routine, li'l buddy.

Why don't you stop by sometime, and I'll make /you/ my "li'l buddy". You know
what that entails, don't you?

You wouldn't dare say any of these things directly to someone's face. Because
you're a cowardly little weasel.

[None]

"William Sommerwerck" > wrote in message
...
> "None" wrote in message
>> But it's still an entertaining comedy routine, li'l buddy.
>
> Why don't you stop by sometime, and I'll make /you/ my "li'l buddy".
> You know what that entails, don't you?

Sure. You'd attempt to molest me with scathing
descriptions of your towering and ridiculously
expensive loudspeakers, which would only make
you look small and shriveled in comparison.

No thanks, li'l buddy.

[John Williamson]

William Sommerwerck wrote:
> "None" wrote in message
> ...
>
> I love the way "None" -- like so many other irritating, useless UseNet
> posters -- insists that speech has no connotations -- that if he didn't
> say something in so many words, he didn't say it at all.
>
> I might as well say what you want me to say... I own an expensive,
> high-quality surround system. It has Apogee planar speakers, and most of
> the electronics were designed by John Curl, who is a good friend. It
> sounds great, I'm proud to own it, and I sincerely wish everyone could
> have as good a system.
>
So do I. Especially, I wish I could afford a better system than the one
I have.

> I also own a Pinoneer PRO-151 60" plasma TV, the last of its kind. I am
> also proud to own it.
>
<Inserts tongue in cheek> I suppose being that big would make it easier
to see the compression artifacts on digital broadcasts.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[William Sommerwerck]

"Jeff Henig" wrote in message
...

>>> Why don't you stop by sometime, and I'll make /you/ my
>>> "li'l buddy". You know what that entails, don't you?

>> Sure. You'd attempt to molest me with scathing
>> descriptions of your towering and ridiculously
>> expensive loudspeakers, which would only make
>> you look small and shriveled in comparison.
>> No thanks, li'l buddy.

> And so another online romance blossoms.

None and I are so beautiful when we're angry.

[William Sommerwerck]

"John Williamson" wrote in message ...
William Sommerwerck wrote:
> "None" wrote in message
> ...

> Especially, I wish I could afford a better system
> than the one I have.

I don't know what your budget is, but Martin-Logan makes terrific
hybrid-electrostatic speakers for a reasonable price. They can't play as loud
as cone speakers in the same price range, but they are /good/.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MartinLogan+-+Theos+8%22+2-Way+Floor+Speaker+(Each)+-+Black+Ash/2715382.p?id=1218376469577&skuId=2715382&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=2715382&extensionType={adtype}:{network}&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_pro ducttargetid}!{network}!{ifmobile:M}!{creative}&kpid=2715382&k_clickid=070c106b-46d4-a849-e341-000058310282&gclid=CMa6oKaHqrgCFYU5QgodOWEACg

You can probably find them cheaper elsewhere (eg, Audio Advisor), and there
are slightly smaller models. Love the model name -- Theos. (By the way, one
translation of Kal-El from Hebrew is "the voice of God").


> <Inserts tongue in cheek> I suppose being that big would make
> it easier to see the compression artifacts on digital broadcasts.

I've never noticed any -- but I haven't watched much TV on it.

On the other hand... If I'm watching a Blu-ray and step right in front of the
screen, I can see the MPEG artifacts, which look very much JPEG artifacts
(such as "halos" around transition regions). A foot or two farther away, and
they disappear.

[[email protected]]

This thread could not die soon enough.


The subject title and what was in the van(fish) are not in agreement!

smh..

[UnsteadyKen]

wrote...

>
> The subject title and what was in the van(fish) are not in agreement!

The fish van scam reminded the OP; (Tobiah), of white van speaker man.
I had a similar experience but it was a memory foam mattress which had
been ordered by a supposed neighbour who could not be found and the
nice chap was willing to sell it to me for only £800 as for some
spurious reason he could not take it back to the depot, I refused his
kind offer.

Speaking of thread titles, you have started a new thread with an
identical title instead of replying in the original. typical google
groper:-)


--
UnsteadyKen

[[email protected]]

UnsteadyKen:

I'm not only corresponding via Google Groups, I'm doing so from a mobile device.

This to you must seem like a fart in a packed Mini. I do apologize! :)