Re: Interesting Mic Chart

[PStamler]

Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears left. That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.

Peace,
Paul

[hank alrich]

PStamler > wrote:

> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears left.
> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>
> Peace, Paul

There you go listening again.

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[S. King]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:27:22 -0700, hank alrich wrote:

> PStamler > wrote:
>
>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>> left.
>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>>
>> Peace, Paul
>
> There you go listening again.

I would classify most of the older (original) MD421's I've encountered as
neutral to slightly dark.

Steve King

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
S. King > wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:27:22 -0700, hank alrich wrote:
>
>> PStamler > wrote:
>>
>>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>>> left.
>>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>>>
>>> Peace, Paul
>>
>> There you go listening again.
>
>I would classify most of the older (original) MD421's I've encountered as
>neutral to slightly dark.

The original 421 bears no connection whatsoever to the new 321 Mk. II.
Which is a shame since the original 421 was a great mike.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[geoff]

"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
> PStamler > wrote:
>
>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>> left.
>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>>
>> Peace, Paul
>
> There you go listening again.

And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
Loath them on guitar amps.

geoff

[Scott Dorsey]

geoff > wrote:
>"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
>> PStamler > wrote:
>>
>>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>>> left.
>>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>>>
>>> Peace, Paul
>>
>> There you go listening again.
>
>And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
>Loath them on guitar amps.

If they are the Mk II models, they are broken by design. But if you are
using them on guitar amps, try putting them at the edge of the cone, turned
90-degrees so they are facing parallel to the speaker instead of into it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[hank alrich]

geoff > wrote:

> "hank alrich" > wrote in message
> ...
> > PStamler > wrote:
> >
> >> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
> >> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
> >> left.
> >> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
> >>
> >> Peace, Paul
> >
> > There you go listening again.
>
> And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
> Loath them on guitar amps.

When the bean counters and manufacturing process managers identify a
"need" to upgrade a classic tool the results are almost never satisfying
to anyone who understands the basis for the perceived excellence of the
original product.

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[hank alrich]

Scott Dorsey > wrote:

> geoff > wrote:
> >"hank alrich" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> PStamler > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
> >>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
> >>> left.
> >>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
> >>>
> >>> Peace, Paul
> >>
> >> There you go listening again.
> >
> >And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
> >Loath them on guitar amps.
>
> If they are the Mk II models, they are broken by design. But if you are
> using them on guitar amps, try putting them at the edge of the cone, turned
> 90-degrees so they are facing parallel to the speaker instead of into it.
> --scott

Or use another mic. Alnost any other mic.

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[Scott Dorsey]

hank alrich > wrote:
>geoff > wrote:
>
>> "hank alrich" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > PStamler > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>> >> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>> >> left.
>> >> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>> >>
>> >> Peace, Paul
>> >
>> > There you go listening again.
>>
>> And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
>> Loath them on guitar amps.
>
>When the bean counters and manufacturing process managers identify a
>"need" to upgrade a classic tool the results are almost never satisfying
>to anyone who understands the basis for the perceived excellence of the
>original product.

Part of the thing about the original 421 element is that the thing was
designed to be user-repairable. In 1970, you could purchase a replacement
diaphragm for it and replace it yourself on the bench. It was all
pre-terminated and mounted, it just dropped in and you made two solder joints
to big loops rather than having to deal with tiny wires.

The thing is, by 2000 or so, customers had no idea how to repair anything,
and Sennheiser perceived the aftermarket repair facilities as competition and
had long-ago discontinued selling the diaphragm kits. So there was really
no reason for them to keep making a very elaborate and difficult to construct
capsule.

And.... well if you're changing the design anyway, why not add a whomping
huge presence peak? The marketing people say everybody likes a big presence
peak.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[geoff]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
> geoff > wrote:
>>"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
>>> PStamler > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pure horse hockey. Anyone who makes a "Dark-Bright" axis and puts the
>>>> current version of the MD421 as neutral or slightly dark has no ears
>>>> left.
>>>> That thing has a top end that will drill holes in your temples.
>>>>
>>>> Peace, Paul
>>>
>>> There you go listening again.
>>
>>And there was me thinking my 421s were broken or my hearing was defective.
>>Loath them on guitar amps.
>
> If they are the Mk II models, they are broken by design. But if you are
> using them on guitar amps, try putting them at the edge of the cone,
> turned
> 90-degrees so they are facing parallel to the speaker instead of into it.
> --scott

How do you tell a MKII model ?

geoff

[Scott Dorsey]

geoff > wrote (regarding the 421):
>
>How do you tell a MKII model ?

It should say so on the nameplate.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[hank alrich]

Scott Dorsey > wrote:

> geoff > wrote (regarding the 421):
> >
> >How do you tell a MKII model ?
>
> It should say so on the nameplate.
> --scott

It floats like a butterfly and buzzes like a bee?

Oh, wait... that's not a buzz, it's just a presence peak...

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[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
hank alrich > wrote:
>Scott Dorsey > wrote:
>
>> geoff > wrote (regarding the 421):
>> >
>> >How do you tell a MKII model ?
>>
>> It should say so on the nameplate.
>
>It floats like a butterfly and buzzes like a bee?

It's more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfzdupLHaE
--scott

--
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[Paul[_13_]]

On 6/25/2013 9:51 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article >,
> hank alrich > wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey > wrote:
>>
>>> geoff > wrote (regarding the 421):
>>>>
>>>> How do you tell a MKII model ?
>>>
>>> It should say so on the nameplate.
>>
>> It floats like a butterfly and buzzes like a bee?
>
> It's more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfzdupLHaE
> --scott
>

That was cool! Never seen that before.

One brash MF, eh? haha!