Got my coles 4038 today

[Nate Najar]

A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.

First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.

The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get away with no eq if I used an rpq.

Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for upright bass.

I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole record with a few of these....

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 6/7/2013 11:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:

> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf
> cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it
> sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring
> it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep
> it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at
> the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get
> away with no eq if I used an rpq.

Heh, heh, heh. Buy one, get two! That's the way it goes in this
business. But that sounds like a happy combination.



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[Paul[_13_]]

On 6/7/2013 8:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:
> A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.
>
> First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.
>
> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get away with no eq if I used an rpq.
>
> Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for upright bass.
>
> I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole record with a few of these....
>

I've never used a ribbon mic before, but I'm thinking about
getting one after hearing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-pdnG0Yg0&feature=youtu.be

Sounds gorgeous even over Youtube....

[Matt Faunce]

On 6/8/13 10:31 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 6/7/2013 8:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:
>> A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never
>> used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few
>> different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I
>> have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.
>>
>> First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem
>> muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.
>>
>> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf
>> cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it
>> sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring
>> it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep
>> it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at
>> the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get
>> away with no eq if I used an rpq.
>>
>> Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for
>> upright bass.
>>
>> I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo
>> also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good
>> deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at
>> alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer
>> the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of
>> how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole
>> record with a few of these....
>>
>
> I've never used a ribbon mic before, but I'm thinking about
> getting one after hearing this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-pdnG0Yg0&feature=youtu.be
>
> Sounds gorgeous even over Youtube....

Here's a guitar video that I love, using a Royer:

Adam del Monte plays Cordoba by Isaac Albeniz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BInuSLDDOA

Again, Nate wrote:

>> I have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.

Yes, you let us listen to it. I liked it very much too!

--
Matt

[Paul[_13_]]

On 6/8/2013 9:17 AM, Matt Faunce wrote:
> On 6/8/13 10:31 AM, Paul wrote:
>> On 6/7/2013 8:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:
>>> A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never
>>> used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few
>>> different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I
>>> have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.
>>>
>>> First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem
>>> muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.
>>>
>>> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf
>>> cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it
>>> sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring
>>> it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep
>>> it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at
>>> the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get
>>> away with no eq if I used an rpq.
>>>
>>> Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for
>>> upright bass.
>>>
>>> I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo
>>> also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good
>>> deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at
>>> alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer
>>> the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of
>>> how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole
>>> record with a few of these....
>>>
>>
>> I've never used a ribbon mic before, but I'm thinking about
>> getting one after hearing this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-pdnG0Yg0&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> Sounds gorgeous even over Youtube....
>
> Here's a guitar video that I love, using a Royer:
>
> Adam del Monte plays Cordoba by Isaac Albeniz
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BInuSLDDOA
>

That sounds great.

My impression is that these ribbons are better
for warmer, more mellow instruments.

More suitable for nylon string rather than steel
string guitars, right?

[hank alrich]

Paul > wrote:

> On 6/8/2013 9:17 AM, Matt Faunce wrote:
> > On 6/8/13 10:31 AM, Paul wrote:
> >> On 6/7/2013 8:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:
> >>> A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never
> >>> used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few
> >>> different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I
> >>> have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.
> >>>
> >>> First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem
> >>> muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.
> >>>
> >>> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf
> >>> cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it
> >>> sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring
> >>> it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep
> >>> it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at
> >>> the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get
> >>> away with no eq if I used an rpq.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for
> >>> upright bass.
> >>>
> >>> I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo
> >>> also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good
> >>> deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at
> >>> alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer
> >>> the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of
> >>> how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole
> >>> record with a few of these....
> >>>
> >>
> >> I've never used a ribbon mic before, but I'm thinking about
> >> getting one after hearing this:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-pdnG0Yg0&feature=youtu.be
> >>
> >> Sounds gorgeous even over Youtube....
> >
> > Here's a guitar video that I love, using a Royer:
> >
> > Adam del Monte plays Cordoba by Isaac Albeniz
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BInuSLDDOA
> >
>
> That sounds great.
>
> My impression is that these ribbons are better
> for warmer, more mellow instruments.
>
> More suitable for nylon string rather than steel
> string guitars, right?

Where have you gotten an actual impression? Ribbons, for instance, can
be fabulous on edgey sources, like banjo.

Stop thinking of a mic as suitable for a source. Start thinking of
music, and use of the tools to deliver it recorded. So many audio
production decisions stand on context.

Hence, a ribbon mic can sound perfect on a steel string guitar,
depending on _context_.

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