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screentan
October 9th 03, 11:29 AM
I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different. As I
am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be altering
the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?
I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card. I was thinking of the USB
version so that it could work on a laptop too.
Many thanks for any advice and information provided.

Mike D

DaveDrummer
October 9th 03, 11:38 AM
It WILL be different, but of very little significance. I dont think you'd
notice.

Dave
"screentan" > wrote in message
om...
> I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different. As I
> am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be altering
> the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?
> I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card. I was thinking of the USB
> version so that it could work on a laptop too.
> Many thanks for any advice and information provided.
>
> Mike D

DaveDrummer
October 9th 03, 11:38 AM
It WILL be different, but of very little significance. I dont think you'd
notice.

Dave
"screentan" > wrote in message
om...
> I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different. As I
> am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be altering
> the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?
> I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card. I was thinking of the USB
> version so that it could work on a laptop too.
> Many thanks for any advice and information provided.
>
> Mike D

Arny Krueger
October 9th 03, 12:30 PM
"screentan" > wrote in message
om

> I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile?

It shouldn't.

>The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different.

Agreed.

> As I am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be
altering
> the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?

Agreed.

> I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card.

As you say, only the quality of monitoring is at stake.

>I was thinking of the USB
> version so that it could work on a laptop too.

Please notice all the cautionary things that people are saying about USB
sound cards. In many cases it has to do with recent experience with them.
I'm not saying they can't work, but lots of people have obtained figurative
bloody fingers with them.

Arny Krueger
October 9th 03, 12:30 PM
"screentan" > wrote in message
om

> I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile?

It shouldn't.

>The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different.

Agreed.

> As I am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be
altering
> the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?

Agreed.

> I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card.

As you say, only the quality of monitoring is at stake.

>I was thinking of the USB
> version so that it could work on a laptop too.

Please notice all the cautionary things that people are saying about USB
sound cards. In many cases it has to do with recent experience with them.
I'm not saying they can't work, but lots of people have obtained figurative
bloody fingers with them.

Daniel Fuchs
October 9th 03, 12:32 PM
DaveDrummer wrote:
>
> It WILL be different, but of very little significance.

No. It will sound different through the monitors, but the sound card
quality does not affect the quality of bouncing or exporting to wav at
all.


Daniel



> I dont think you'd
> notice.
>
> Dave
> "screentan" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> > created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> > Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> > CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> > using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> > dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> > see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> > improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different. As I
> > am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be altering
> > the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?
> > I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> > couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card. I was thinking of the USB
> > version so that it could work on a laptop too.
> > Many thanks for any advice and information provided.
> >
> > Mike D

Daniel Fuchs
October 9th 03, 12:32 PM
DaveDrummer wrote:
>
> It WILL be different, but of very little significance.

No. It will sound different through the monitors, but the sound card
quality does not affect the quality of bouncing or exporting to wav at
all.


Daniel



> I dont think you'd
> notice.
>
> Dave
> "screentan" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I am working with CD quality audio samples as well as other sounds
> > created by the various soft synths contained within in Propellerheads
> > Reason 2.5. I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> > CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> > using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> > dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> > see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> > improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different. As I
> > am not doing any A-D conversion, the soundcard should not be altering
> > the 'internally processed' sound quality or is it?
> > I am really try to see if this method of working justifies spending a
> > couple of hundred on an Audiophile USB card. I was thinking of the USB
> > version so that it could work on a laptop too.
> > Many thanks for any advice and information provided.
> >
> > Mike D

Mike Rivers
October 9th 03, 05:22 PM
In article > writes:

> I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different.

This is important in that it affects what you hear while you're
working. That's pretty important.

On the other hand, if you're talking about using it with a "laptop,
also" then chances are you're not really working in a great monitoring
environment. Improving your monitor speakers and room will make a far
greater difference in what you hear than improving your sound card, so
your conclusion is probably, in practice, valid.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

Mike Rivers
October 9th 03, 05:22 PM
In article > writes:

> I export the finished song to a wav file and then burn a
> CD on the same PC's CD burner. Does it make any difference that I am
> using the cheap onboard soundcard as oppossed to a higher quality
> dedicated soundcard like the Audiophile? The only justification I can
> see (with my limited knowledge) is that a better soundcard would only
> improve monitoring, the quality of the CD should be no different.

This is important in that it affects what you hear while you're
working. That's pretty important.

On the other hand, if you're talking about using it with a "laptop,
also" then chances are you're not really working in a great monitoring
environment. Improving your monitor speakers and room will make a far
greater difference in what you hear than improving your sound card, so
your conclusion is probably, in practice, valid.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )