Problem with Waves plugin

[Don Pearce]

Using Waves X-Noise I have a problem. I have captured my sample noise
nicely, and can apply the correction OK. The problem is this - when
using the "Preview" mode (in Cooledit Pro) the correction sounds
great, but when I apply it for real, the effect is quite different,
and the sound is now muffled and lacking top. Any idea what I'm doing
wrong?

The noise is a bit of aircon rumble.

d

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[opus]

What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?

I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.

Opus
"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Using Waves X-Noise I have a problem. I have captured my sample noise
> nicely, and can apply the correction OK. The problem is this - when
> using the "Preview" mode (in Cooledit Pro) the correction sounds
> great, but when I apply it for real, the effect is quite different,
> and the sound is now muffled and lacking top. Any idea what I'm doing
> wrong?
>
> The noise is a bit of aircon rumble.
>
> d
>
> _____________________________
>
> http://www.pearce.uk.com

[opus]

What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?

I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.

Opus
"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Using Waves X-Noise I have a problem. I have captured my sample noise
> nicely, and can apply the correction OK. The problem is this - when
> using the "Preview" mode (in Cooledit Pro) the correction sounds
> great, but when I apply it for real, the effect is quite different,
> and the sound is now muffled and lacking top. Any idea what I'm doing
> wrong?
>
> The noise is a bit of aircon rumble.
>
> d
>
> _____________________________
>
> http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Roach]

AH yes, discovered that with 2.0 and i discovered a few swear words too
after i THOUGHT i rendered a bunch of files properly. I found that during
the capture/preview modes when you made your adjustments it worked. But as
soon as you went to bounce that file or save it to a file, it would return
to either default settings or wrong settings.

I believe the thing that ended up working was soloing the desired track with
X-noise, and bouncing it in real time to another track. i.e. send the signal
to output 1-2 (for example) and set another track to record that.

Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.

roach

"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Using Waves X-Noise I have a problem. I have captured my sample noise
> nicely, and can apply the correction OK. The problem is this - when
> using the "Preview" mode (in Cooledit Pro) the correction sounds
> great, but when I apply it for real, the effect is quite different,
> and the sound is now muffled and lacking top. Any idea what I'm doing
> wrong?
>
> The noise is a bit of aircon rumble.
>
> d
>
> _____________________________
>
> http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Roach]

AH yes, discovered that with 2.0 and i discovered a few swear words too
after i THOUGHT i rendered a bunch of files properly. I found that during
the capture/preview modes when you made your adjustments it worked. But as
soon as you went to bounce that file or save it to a file, it would return
to either default settings or wrong settings.

I believe the thing that ended up working was soloing the desired track with
X-noise, and bouncing it in real time to another track. i.e. send the signal
to output 1-2 (for example) and set another track to record that.

Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.

roach

"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
...
> Using Waves X-Noise I have a problem. I have captured my sample noise
> nicely, and can apply the correction OK. The problem is this - when
> using the "Preview" mode (in Cooledit Pro) the correction sounds
> great, but when I apply it for real, the effect is quite different,
> and the sound is now muffled and lacking top. Any idea what I'm doing
> wrong?
>
> The noise is a bit of aircon rumble.
>
> d
>
> _____________________________
>
> http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:09:47 GMT, "opus" > wrote:

>What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?
>
>I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.
>
I have the Platinum bundle. If you can't reproduce the problem (it is
most evident on voice - somebody speaking) with either Nuendo or
Wavelab, it would be useful if you could try in CEP, to see if that is
the problem. I'm using Direct X 9.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:09:47 GMT, "opus" > wrote:

>What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?
>
>I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.
>
I have the Platinum bundle. If you can't reproduce the problem (it is
most evident on voice - somebody speaking) with either Nuendo or
Wavelab, it would be useful if you could try in CEP, to see if that is
the problem. I'm using Direct X 9.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
wrote:

>AH yes, discovered that with 2.0 and i discovered a few swear words too
>after i THOUGHT i rendered a bunch of files properly. I found that during
>the capture/preview modes when you made your adjustments it worked. But as
>soon as you went to bounce that file or save it to a file, it would return
>to either default settings or wrong settings.
>
>I believe the thing that ended up working was soloing the desired track with
>X-noise, and bouncing it in real time to another track. i.e. send the signal
>to output 1-2 (for example) and set another track to record that.
>
>Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
>
>roach

Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
wrote:

>AH yes, discovered that with 2.0 and i discovered a few swear words too
>after i THOUGHT i rendered a bunch of files properly. I found that during
>the capture/preview modes when you made your adjustments it worked. But as
>soon as you went to bounce that file or save it to a file, it would return
>to either default settings or wrong settings.
>
>I believe the thing that ended up working was soloing the desired track with
>X-noise, and bouncing it in real time to another track. i.e. send the signal
>to output 1-2 (for example) and set another track to record that.
>
>Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
>
>roach

Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:09:47 GMT, "opus" > wrote:

>What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?
>
>I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.
>
>Opus

Thanks, Opus - just tried in Sound Forge, and it works as it should -
clearly a CEP problem.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:09:47 GMT, "opus" > wrote:

>What version of waves are you using? Direct X I take it?
>
>I'll see if I can reproduce it in Nuendo or Wavelab.
>
>Opus

Thanks, Opus - just tried in Sound Forge, and it works as it should -
clearly a CEP problem.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[James Perrett]

Don Pearce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
> wrote:
>
> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
> >
> >roach
>
> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.

It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
2.1 owners.

Cheers.

James.

[James Perrett]

Don Pearce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
> wrote:
>
> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
> >
> >roach
>
> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.

It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
2.1 owners.

Cheers.

James.

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:17:18 +0100, James Perrett
> wrote:

>Don Pearce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
>> >
>> >roach
>>
>> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
>> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.
>
>It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
>features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
>that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
>2.1 owners.
>
>Cheers.
>
>James.

Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[Don Pearce]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:17:18 +0100, James Perrett
> wrote:

>Don Pearce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
>> >
>> >roach
>>
>> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
>> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.
>
>It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
>features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
>that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
>2.1 owners.
>
>Cheers.
>
>James.

Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[James Perrett]

Don Pearce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:17:18 +0100, James Perrett
> > wrote:
>
> >Don Pearce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
> >> >
> >> >roach
> >>
> >> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
> >> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.
> >
> >It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
> >features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
> >that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
> >2.1 owners.
> >
> >Cheers.
> >
> >James.
>
> Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
> right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.

From what I've seen on the Audition forum, Adobe seem to be supporting
Audition. The upgrade should be free if you already have CEP 2.0 so I
see no reason not to try it - especially as one of the fixes between 2.0
and 2.1 was improved plug-in handling. Audition and CEP can co-exist on
the same computer so you should have no problem going back to the old
version if, for some reason, Audition doesn't work for you.

Cheers.

James.

[James Perrett]

Don Pearce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:17:18 +0100, James Perrett
> > wrote:
>
> >Don Pearce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:07:16 GMT, "Roach" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Cool Edit was very finicky with many plug-ins.
> >> >
> >> >roach
> >>
> >> Thanks, I'll try that. I'm processing stereo, so I will put in a
> >> couple of extra tracks and bounce to those. I'm using 2.0 as well.
> >
> >It might be worth upgrading to a newer version as one of the new
> >features of 2.1 was improved DirectX plug-in handling. I would guess
> >that these improvements are also in Adobe Audition which is free to CEP
> >2.1 owners.
> >
> >Cheers.
> >
> >James.
>
> Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
> right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.

From what I've seen on the Audition forum, Adobe seem to be supporting
Audition. The upgrade should be free if you already have CEP 2.0 so I
see no reason not to try it - especially as one of the fixes between 2.0
and 2.1 was improved plug-in handling. Audition and CEP can co-exist on
the same computer so you should have no problem going back to the old
version if, for some reason, Audition doesn't work for you.

Cheers.

James.

[Don Pearce]

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:27:42 +0100, James Perrett
> wrote:

>> Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
>> right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.
>
>From what I've seen on the Audition forum, Adobe seem to be supporting
>Audition. The upgrade should be free if you already have CEP 2.0 so I
>see no reason not to try it - especially as one of the fixes between 2.0
>and 2.1 was improved plug-in handling. Audition and CEP can co-exist on
>the same computer so you should have no problem going back to the old
>version if, for some reason, Audition doesn't work for you.
>
>Cheers.
>
>James.

Hadn't realised the upgrade was free. Guess I will wait a while though
to see how Adobe really deal with Audition.

d

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[Don Pearce]

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:27:42 +0100, James Perrett
> wrote:

>> Don't think I really want to upgrade a product of dubious support
>> right now. But between Sound Forge and CEP I think I have it covered.
>
>From what I've seen on the Audition forum, Adobe seem to be supporting
>Audition. The upgrade should be free if you already have CEP 2.0 so I
>see no reason not to try it - especially as one of the fixes between 2.0
>and 2.1 was improved plug-in handling. Audition and CEP can co-exist on
>the same computer so you should have no problem going back to the old
>version if, for some reason, Audition doesn't work for you.
>
>Cheers.
>
>James.

Hadn't realised the upgrade was free. Guess I will wait a while though
to see how Adobe really deal with Audition.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

[James Perrett]

Don Pearce wrote:
>

>
> Hadn't realised the upgrade was free. Guess I will wait a while though
> to see how Adobe really deal with Audition.
>
> d

I downloaded the update and obtained a serial number although I haven't
installed it yet. I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss out if
Adobe changed their minds.

Cheers.

James.