Axis: Bold As Love

[neumannu47[_2_]]

I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.

Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?

[hank alrich]

neumannu47 > wrote:

> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>
> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?

I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.

I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.

--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpqXcV9DYAc
http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri

[Nil]

On 25 May 2011, neumannu47 > wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised
> by how much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has
> been a LONG time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as
> well? (Obviously I'm not talking about Hendrix' guitar being
> distorted.) My CD is probably one of the first releases, so the
> distortion may be in the A-D converters.

Name a couple of specific points you're wondering about and I'll check
my original vinyl.

[Rick Ruskin]

On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700, (hank alrich)
wrote:

>neumannu47 > wrote:
>
>> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
>> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
>> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
>> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
>> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>>
>> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>
>I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
>intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
>
>I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.

Who knows? Back then they weren't all that hip as to what would
translate well to vinyl. I've heard stereo pressings of "Are You
Experienced" that when summed to mono, Jimi's vocals would pretty much
disappear leaving nothing but the echo return. I don't think it was
intentional.

Rick Ruskin
Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
http://www.liondogmusic.com

[Scott Dorsey]

hank alrich > wrote:
>neumannu47 > wrote:
>
>> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
>> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
>> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
>> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
>> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>>
>> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>
>I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
>intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.

I think that's what he's trying to figure out.

>I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.

That may not help. Especially if it's been Dynagrooved.

It's a hell of a world.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Les Cargill[_4_]]

neumannu47 wrote:
> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well?

Yes.

>(Obviously I'm
> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>

No, it's probably in the original source material.


> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?

Hendrix tracked a lot of it himself.

--
Les Cargill

[david gourley[_2_]]

neumannu47 > put forth the notion
:

> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D
converters.

I have a Barclays import (vinyl), and it sounds pretty good all things
considered. The CD I have sounds terrible by comparison, but it's one of
the earlier versions so I'd hope subsequent re-releases were better.

>
> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?

He was on that album.

david

[Trevor]

"hank alrich" > wrote in message
...
> neumannu47 > wrote:
>> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
>> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
>> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
>> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
>> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D
>> converters.
>>
>> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>
> I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
> intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
>
> I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.

And I'm sure you couldn't tell from listening to the vinyl either!

Trevor.

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

Trevor wrote:

>>> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?

I think so.

>> I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
>> intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.

>> I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that
>> out.

> And I'm sure you couldn't tell from listening to the vinyl either!

It is a clean classical music style recording as I remember it from the
second hand copy I have. I count it as one of the vinyl records that have
consistently gotten better with each playback equipment upgrade.

> Trevor

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[ChrisCoaster]

On May 25, 5:16*pm, (hank alrich) wrote:
> neumannu47 > wrote:
> > I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> > much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> > time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
> > not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> > one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>
> > Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>
> I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
> intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
>
> I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.
>
> --
> shut up and play your guitar *http://hankalrich.com/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpqXcV9DYAchttp://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri
________________
Another thing about CD: When I rip mp3s from the CDs the volume is
any where from 96dB and up according to mp3Gain(max value is 105,
default 89). This goes for CDs I bought in the late '80s as well as
CDs from the 2000s - although CDs from less than 10 years ago clock in
at 98-99.5dB in mp3Gain. The older the CD - 1990s or '80s - the
"quiter" they are in level - mp3gain reporting 94-96dB.

Perhaps the CDs are too hot and are distorting the CD player circuitry
and amp stages of people's stereos. I noticed when I regain my CD
rips down to 91dB the dynamic range seems to improve because they're
not pegged up against some "ceiling".

-CC

[david correia]

In article >,
Rick Ruskin > wrote:

> On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700, (hank alrich)
> wrote:
>
> >neumannu47 > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> >> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> >> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
> >> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> >> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
> >>
> >> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
> >
> >I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
> >intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
> >
> >I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.
>
> Who knows? Back then they weren't all that hip as to what would
> translate well to vinyl. I've heard stereo pressings of "Are You
> Experienced" that when summed to mono, Jimi's vocals would pretty much
> disappear leaving nothing but the echo return. I don't think it was
> intentional.
>
> Rick Ruskin
> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
> http://www.liondogmusic.com



Back in them days, Hendrix' music def caused distortion. Sometimes lots
of it!!!

I always thought it was intentional ;>




David Correia
www.Celebrationsound.com

[polymod]

"david correia" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Rick Ruskin > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700, (hank alrich)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >neumannu47 > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by
>> >> how
>> >> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
>> >> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
>> >> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
>> >> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D
>> >> converters.
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>> >
>> >I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
>> >intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
>> >
>> >I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.
>>
>> Who knows? Back then they weren't all that hip as to what would
>> translate well to vinyl. I've heard stereo pressings of "Are You
>> Experienced" that when summed to mono, Jimi's vocals would pretty much
>> disappear leaving nothing but the echo return. I don't think it was
>> intentional.
>>
>> Rick Ruskin
>> Lion Dog Music - Seattle WA
>> http://www.liondogmusic.com
>
>
>
> Back in them days, Hendrix' music def caused distortion.

And I thought it was the drugs...mine, not his <g>

Poly

[ChrisCoaster]

On May 29, 1:35*am, david correia > wrote:
> In article >,
> *Rick Ruskin > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700, (hank alrich)
> > wrote:
>
> > >neumannu47 > wrote:
>
> > >> I'm listening to Axis: Bold As Love by Hendrix, and I'm surprised by how
> > >> much unintentional or unwanted distortion there is. It has been a LONG
> > >> time since I heard the vinyl. Is it distorted, as well? (Obviously I'm
> > >> not talking about Hendrix' guitar being distorted.) My CD is probably
> > >> one of the first releases, so the distortion may be in the A-D converters.
>
> > >> Wasn't Kramer the recording engineer?
>
> > >I'm curious why you feel you know from listening to a CD what is
> > >intentional distortion and what is unintentional distortion.
>
> > >I think you'd have to listen to the vinyl to approach figuring that out.