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gtbuba[_2_]
May 23rd 11, 01:54 AM
I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
could record. What would happen? GT.

Carey Carlan
May 23rd 11, 05:57 AM
gtbuba > wrote in news:bd3fc934-b4d0-4cb3-9dd7-
:

> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
> could record. What would happen? GT.

1) It would put a lot of bedroom "studios" out of business. If they
recorded the whole group and the room sound, they'd need a decent room.

2) It would put a lot of "artists" out of business. They would have to
learn to sing/play the entire song all the way through.

3) It would absolutely maim Rap. Imagine sitting there and playing the
same 8 beat figure for 3 minutes! They'd all be dead from shooting each
other in frustration.

gtbuba[_2_]
May 23rd 11, 07:15 AM
On May 23, 12:57*am, Carey Carlan > wrote:
> gtbuba > wrote in news:bd3fc934-b4d0-4cb3-9dd7-
> :
>
> > I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
> > late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
> > had to be done either A *Live all at once or B all the instruments
> > then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
> > could record. What would happen? GT.
>
> 1) It would put a lot of bedroom "studios" out of business. *If they
> recorded the whole group and the room sound, they'd need a decent room.
>
> 2) It would put a lot of "artists" out of business. *They would have to
> learn to sing/play the entire song all the way through.
>
> 3) It would absolutely maim Rap. *Imagine sitting there and playing the
> same 8 beat figure for 3 minutes! *They'd all be dead from shooting each
> other in frustration.

#3 That's funny!!

Mike Rivers
May 23rd 11, 01:07 PM
On 5/22/2011 8:54 PM, gtbuba wrote:
> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
> could record. What would happen? GT.

The same thing that happened in the late 1950s. Engineers would figure
out a way to work the way the musicians wanted to work (or go out of
business).

Are you suggesting legislation making overdubbed recordings illegal?


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William Sommerwerck
May 23rd 11, 01:23 PM
"gtbuba" > wrote in message
...
On May 23, 12:57 am, Carey Carlan > wrote:
> gtbuba > wrote in news:bd3fc934-b4d0-4cb3-9dd7-
> :

>> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
>> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
>> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
>> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
>> could record. What would happen? GT.

> 1) It would put a lot of bedroom "studios" out of business. If they
> recorded the whole group and the room sound, they'd need a decent room.

> 2) It would put a lot of "artists" out of business. They would have to
> learn to sing/play the entire song all the way through.

> 3) It would absolutely maim Rap. Imagine sitting there and playing the
> same 8 beat figure for 3 minutes! They'd all be dead from shooting each
> other in frustration.

This is hardly new... "I don't play that kling-kling-kling jazz."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGjRKsVMcw

And if you really want to get picky... How about basso continuo?

John Williamson
May 23rd 11, 01:47 PM
William Sommerwerck wrote:
> "gtbuba" > wrote in message
>> 3) It would absolutely maim Rap. Imagine sitting there and playing the
>> same 8 beat figure for 3 minutes! They'd all be dead from shooting each
>> other in frustration.
>
> This is hardly new... "I don't play that kling-kling-kling jazz."
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGjRKsVMcw
>
I hope that's the same Stan Freberg track that I'm thinking of. It
brought a smile to my face just thinking about it.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

May 23rd 11, 02:14 PM
JOhn writes:
>>> 3) It would absolutely maim Rap. Imagine sitting there and
>>>playing the same 8 beat figure for 3 minutes! They'd all be dead
>>>from shooting each other in frustration.
>> This is hardly new... "I don't play that kling-kling-kling jazz."
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGjRKsVMcw
>I hope that's the same Stan Freberg track that I'm thinking of. It
>brought a smile to my face just thinking about it.
YEp. "YOu play that kling kling kling jazz or you won't get
paid tonight ... "

Uproariously funny, at least STan's piece, wouldn't know
about the youtube referenced.
But, all these rappers would have to think about a job
shift, maybe to something like janitor.



Richard webb,

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Ron Capik[_3_]
May 23rd 11, 03:03 PM
On 5/23/2011 8:07 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
> On 5/22/2011 8:54 PM, gtbuba wrote:
>> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
>> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
>> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
>> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
>> could record. What would happen? GT.
>
> The same thing that happened in the late 1950s. Engineers would figure
> out a way to work the way the musicians wanted to work (or go out of
> business).
>
> Are you suggesting legislation making overdubbed recordings illegal?
>
>
Brings to mind a comment by Eddie Kramer at a talk
I attended years ago. When asked about how best to
approach one-track-at-a-time mix-down-later recording,
he said: that's not music ...it's a BLOODY science
project!

Later...
Ron Capik
--

polymod
May 24th 11, 09:43 PM
"Ron Capik" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/23/2011 8:07 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
>> On 5/22/2011 8:54 PM, gtbuba wrote:
>>> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
>>> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
>>> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
>>> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
>>> could record. What would happen? GT.
>>
>> The same thing that happened in the late 1950s. Engineers would figure
>> out a way to work the way the musicians wanted to work (or go out of
>> business).
>>
>> Are you suggesting legislation making overdubbed recordings illegal?
>>
>>
> Brings to mind a comment by Eddie Kramer at a talk
> I attended years ago. When asked about how best to
> approach one-track-at-a-time mix-down-later recording,
> he said: that's not music ...it's a BLOODY science
> project!

Priceless!!!

Poly

alex
May 25th 11, 12:32 AM
Il 23/05/2011 2.54, gtbuba ha scritto:
> I was just wondering what would happen if we rolled back the clock to
> late 50's early 1960's and all Rock, RnB, Country, and Pop recordings
> had to be done either A Live all at once or B all the instruments
> then 1 overdub with vocals. What if this was the only cool way people
> could record. What would happen? GT.

IMHO much less musicians, much less music and much more power for record
companies...

alex