American Idol sound

[Richard Kuschel]

Did anyone else watch American Idol last night?

The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
not much better on the contestants.

It sounded like about a 15ms delay with inverted polarity.

Somebody really dropped the ball on that one.

I don't give a damn who wins, but it is kind of interesting to watch
what I think is very good talent.

[Ethan Winer[_3_]]

On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, Richard Kuschel > wrote:
> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
> not much better on the contestants.

I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I have no
idea what people hear with normal TV sound.

--Ethan

[Richard Kuschel]

On Apr 28, 11:29*am, Ethan Winer > wrote:
> On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
> > The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
> > not much better on the contestants.
>
> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I have no
> idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
>
> --Ethan

Maybe I'll ned to hook up the 5.1. It could be the rear channel signal
mixed in with the fronts on normal television doing this. I found it
annoying.

[John Williamson]

Richard Kuschel wrote:
> On Apr 28, 11:29 am, Ethan Winer > wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>>
>>> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
>>> not much better on the contestants.
>> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
>> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
>> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I have no
>> idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
>>
>> --Ethan
>
> Maybe I'll ned to hook up the 5.1. It could be the rear channel signal
> mixed in with the fronts on normal television doing this. I found it
> annoying.

From reading previous threads on similar subjects, it seems that how
far down the transmitter chain from the original you are defines the
sound quality.

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John.

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JOhn writes:
>Richard Kuschel wrote:
>>>> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible,
>>>>and not much better on the contestants.
>>> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
>>> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
>>> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I
>>>have no idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
>From reading previous threads on similar subjects, it seems that how
>far down the transmitter chain from the original you are defines the
>sound quality.

MIght be that, but I"m wondering if the folks doing sound
for it might not be paying attention to mono, or other
compatability issues. IF they're listening in 5.1 are they
bothering to listen to a mono feed, or even stereo for that
matter to see what they're doing.

WOuldn't surprise me, but then, I don't watch it at all.



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[Arny Krueger]

"Richard Kuschel" > wrote in message

> Did anyone else watch American Idol last night?
>
> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely
> horrible, and not much better on the contestants.
>
> It sounded like about a 15ms delay with inverted polarity.
>
> Somebody really dropped the ball on that one.
>
> I don't give a damn who wins, but it is kind of
> interesting to watch what I think is very good talent.

What about the sound at *The Wedding*? I think they made just about every
possible mistake. Besides abysmally high noise floors, there was a big lip
synch problem that eventually got fixed, a long outage at a critical point
on ABC, and feedback.

[Audio1]

On 4/29/2011 8:35 AM, Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Richard > wrote in message
>
>> Did anyone else watch American Idol last night?
>>
>> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely
>> horrible, and not much better on the contestants.
>>
>> It sounded like about a 15ms delay with inverted polarity.
>>
>> Somebody really dropped the ball on that one.
>>
>> I don't give a damn who wins, but it is kind of
>> interesting to watch what I think is very good talent.
>
> What about the sound at *The Wedding*? I think they made just about every
> possible mistake. Besides abysmally high noise floors, there was a big lip
> synch problem that eventually got fixed, a long outage at a critical point
> on ABC, and feedback.
>
>

What wedding?

[Anahata]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:35:46 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote:
> What about the sound at *The Wedding*? I think they made just about
> every possible mistake. Besides abysmally high noise floors, there was a
> big lip synch problem that eventually got fixed, a long outage at a
> critical point on ABC, and feedback.

What I saw of it was OK straight off the BBC. (terrestrial digital)

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[Arny Krueger]

"Anahata" > wrote in message
o.uk
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:35:46 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote:
>> What about the sound at *The Wedding*? I think they made
>> just about every possible mistake. Besides abysmally
>> high noise floors, there was a big lip synch problem
>> that eventually got fixed, a long outage at a critical
>> point on ABC, and feedback.

> What I saw of it was OK straight off the BBC.
> (terrestrial digital)

Interesting how going straight to the BBC eliminated the little stretch of
feedback. Real magic you've got there! ;-)

[hank alrich]

Arny Krueger > wrote:

> "Anahata" > wrote in message
> o.uk
> > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:35:46 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> What about the sound at *The Wedding*? I think they made
> >> just about every possible mistake. Besides abysmally
> >> high noise floors, there was a big lip synch problem
> >> that eventually got fixed, a long outage at a critical
> >> point on ABC, and feedback.
>
> > What I saw of it was OK straight off the BBC.
> > (terrestrial digital)
>
> Interesting how going straight to the BBC eliminated the little stretch of
> feedback. Real magic you've got there! ;-)

"What I saw of it"...

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[Richard Kuschel]

On Apr 28, 11:29*am, Ethan Winer > wrote:
> On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
> > The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
> > not much better on the contestants.
>
> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I have no
> idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
>
> --Ethan

I watched the Thursday night show and it didn't have the problems I
heard the night before. It may have been something added by the cable
or satellite feed.

[John Williamson]

wrote:
> JOhn writes:
> >Richard Kuschel wrote:
> >>>> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible,
> >>>>and not much better on the contestants.
> >>> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
> >>> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
> >>> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I
> >>>have no idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
> >From reading previous threads on similar subjects, it seems that how
> >far down the transmitter chain from the original you are defines the
> >sound quality.
>
> MIght be that, but I"m wondering if the folks doing sound
> for it might not be paying attention to mono, or other
> compatability issues. IF they're listening in 5.1 are they
> bothering to listen to a mono feed, or even stereo for that
> matter to see what they're doing.
>
> WOuldn't surprise me, but then, I don't watch it at all.
>
It doesn't make it to this side of the Atlantic until a while later. On
my stereo TV set, it sounds as okay as I'd expect.


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John.

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John writes:
>> MIght be that, but I"m wondering if the folks doing sound
>> for it might not be paying attention to mono, or other
>> compatability issues. IF they're listening in 5.1 are they
>> bothering to listen to a mono feed, or even stereo for that
>> matter to see what they're doing.
>> WOuldn't surprise me, but then, I don't watch it at all.
>It doesn't make it to this side of the Atlantic until a while later.
>On my stereo TV set, it sounds as okay as I'd expect.
THat's why these are so hard to call in hindsight, depends
on where you are, and what processing happened to it before
you heard it.

Can honestly say there's no danger of me being able to
criticize anything about American IDol, or a royal wedding,
as I could care less about either.





Richard webb,

replace anything before at with elspider
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[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:14:17 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

>
>John writes:
> >> MIght be that, but I"m wondering if the folks doing sound
> >> for it might not be paying attention to mono, or other
> >> compatability issues. IF they're listening in 5.1 are they
> >> bothering to listen to a mono feed, or even stereo for that
> >> matter to see what they're doing.
> >> WOuldn't surprise me, but then, I don't watch it at all.
> >It doesn't make it to this side of the Atlantic until a while later.
> >On my stereo TV set, it sounds as okay as I'd expect.
>THat's why these are so hard to call in hindsight, depends
>on where you are, and what processing happened to it before
>you heard it.
>
>Can honestly say there's no danger of me being able to
>criticize anything about American IDol, or a royal wedding,
>as I could care less about either.
>
I presume you mean you couldn't care less, not could care less. But
with that revision, yes, I'm with you.

d

[Ty Ford]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:24:30 -0400, Richard Kuschel wrote
(in article
>):

> Did anyone else watch American Idol last night?
>
> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
> not much better on the contestants.
>
> It sounded like about a 15ms delay with inverted polarity.
>
> Somebody really dropped the ball on that one.
>
> I don't give a damn who wins, but it is kind of interesting to watch
> what I think is very good talent.

Any comment on the switch from Sennheiser to BLUE mics this year?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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[ChrisCoaster]

On Apr 28, 2:47*pm, John Williamson >
wrote:
> Richard Kuschel wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 11:29 am, Ethan Winer > wrote:
> >> On Apr 28, 1:24 pm, Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>
> >>> The sound on the judges' and host mic's was absolutely horrible, and
> >>> not much better on the contestants.
> >> I watch Idol in HD and hear it in 5.1 surround. I didn't notice
> >> anything wrong with the sound last night. In fact, I think they
> >> generally do a really great job with the audio. But again, I have no
> >> idea what people hear with normal TV sound.
>
> >> --Ethan
>
> > Maybe I'll ned to hook up the 5.1. It could be the rear channel signal
> > mixed in with the fronts on normal television doing this. I found it
> > annoying.
>
> *From reading previous threads on similar subjects, it seems that how
> far down the transmitter chain from the original you are defines the
> sound quality.
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Thumbs ^^!

It also defines how much dynamic range compression your sound is
subject to. LOL!

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On 2011-04-30 (DonPearce) said:
>>Can honestly say there's no danger of me being able to
>>criticize anything about American IDol, or a royal wedding,
>>as I could care less about either.
>I presume you mean you couldn't care less, not could care less. But
>with that revision, yes, I'm with you.
INdeed you're right, long day. THere is much more in life
to interest me than the marriage of an ornamental person or
American idol.






Richard webb,

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ON site audio in the southland: see www.gatasound.com