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Ty Ford
March 1st 11, 11:05 PM
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:39:01 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote
(in article >):

> The great thing about suggestions is that budget is not my worry. George
> Gleason and Ty Ford may agree or want to supplement with comments, it would
> be much appreciated if they do, here is my first guess for live sound,
> assuming that you need reinforcement to fit the ensemble. A single small box
> with a Tannoy 12" dual contentric, or perhaps simply a pair of Tannoy i12's,
> preferably with controller comes to mind.

If the guitar is the only thing on stage, give the dpa 4099G a spin, but as
Nate has corroborated (after I told him he would), it's a mic, if your guitar
playing is quiet relative to something noisier near you (or you're singing),
th DPA 4099G will pick that up as well, not always flatteringly.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Peter Larsen[_3_]
March 3rd 11, 07:19 PM
Ty Ford wrote:

> If the guitar is the only thing on stage, give the dpa 4099G a spin,
> but as Nate has corroborated (after I told him he would), it's a mic,
> if your guitar playing is quiet relative to something noisier near
> you (or you're singing), th DPA 4099G will pick that up as well, not
> always flatteringly.

So you kinda say that my KSM 141/137 or Neumann 102 idea might be usable? -
yes, I know, promised to write the "how I would record", it is not quite
done yet.

> Ty Ford

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Ty Ford
March 4th 11, 09:29 PM
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:19:53 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote
(in article >):

> Ty Ford wrote:
>
>> If the guitar is the only thing on stage, give the dpa 4099G a spin,
>> but as Nate has corroborated (after I told him he would), it's a mic,
>> if your guitar playing is quiet relative to something noisier near
>> you (or you're singing), th DPA 4099G will pick that up as well, not
>> always flatteringly.
>
> So you kinda say that my KSM 141/137 or Neumann 102 idea might be usable? -
> yes, I know, promised to write the "how I would record", it is not quite
> done yet.
>
>> Ty Ford
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen

If you're sitting down and don't express yourself much, but I think a good
pickup on an acoustic that might not sound as good as the mics you mention
are a small price to pay for being able to move around.

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Peter Larsen[_3_]
March 5th 11, 06:49 AM
Ty Ford wrote:

>> So you kinda say that my KSM 141/137 or Neumann 102 idea might be
>> usable? - yes, I know, promised to write the "how I would record",
>> it is not quite done yet.

> If you're sitting down and don't express yourself much, but I think a
> good pickup on an acoustic that might not sound as good as the mics
> you mention are a small price to pay for being able to move around.

Good point, thanks!

> Ty Ford

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Luxey
March 5th 11, 10:51 AM
On 4 мар, 22:29, Ty Ford > wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:19:53 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote
> (in article >):
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ty Ford wrote:
>
> >> If the guitar is the only thing on stage, give the dpa 4099G a spin,
> >> but as Nate has corroborated (after I told him he would), it's a mic,
> >> if your guitar playing is quiet relative to something noisier near
> >> you (or you're singing), th DPA 4099G will pick that up as well, not
> >> always flatteringly.
>
> > So you kinda say that my KSM 141/137 or Neumann 102 idea might be usable? -
> > yes, I know, promised to write the "how I would record", it is not quite
> > done yet.
>
> >> Ty Ford
>
> > * *Kind regards
>
> > * *Peter Larsen
>
> If you're sitting down and don't express yourself much, but I think a good
> pickup on an acoustic that might not sound as good as the mics you mention
> are a small price to pay for being able to move around.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
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>
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if you're sitting and don't move, you can put some kind of buffle.
Could help with couple db
of separation. You could put some kind of foam funnel/ wrapping over a
mic to,
hopefully, make it more directional and comparativly more sensitive in
direction.

hank alrich
March 6th 11, 12:45 AM
Ty Ford > wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:19:53 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > Ty Ford wrote:
> >
> >> If the guitar is the only thing on stage, give the dpa 4099G a spin,
> >> but as Nate has corroborated (after I told him he would), it's a mic,
> >> if your guitar playing is quiet relative to something noisier near
> >> you (or you're singing), th DPA 4099G will pick that up as well, not
> >> always flatteringly.
> >
> > So you kinda say that my KSM 141/137 or Neumann 102 idea might be usable? -
> > yes, I know, promised to write the "how I would record", it is not quite
> > done yet.
> >
> >> Ty Ford
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter Larsen
>
> If you're sitting down and don't express yourself much, but I think a good
> pickup on an acoustic that might not sound as good as the mics you mention
> are a small price to pay for being able to move around.

As much as I appreciate the M&K's in my acoustic guitars, I'm happy not
to move around if that gets me to the audience via the Schoeps. In a
decent venue with a good operator there is no comparison and it allows
me to sound different from all those folks just using pickups. People
notice the difference, even if the average listener doesn't know the why
of it.

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Ty Ford
March 7th 11, 01:49 AM
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:51:56 -0500, Luxey wrote
(in article
>):

> if you're sitting and don't move, you can put some kind of buffle. Could help

> with couple db of separation. You could put some kind of foam funnel/
> wrapping over a mic to, hopefully, make it more directional and comparativly
> more sensitive in direction.

I thought we were talking about playing out. In the studio, I'd use a
schoeps.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Luxey
March 7th 11, 02:28 AM
On 7 мар, 02:49, Ty Ford > wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:51:56 -0500, Luxey wrote
> (in article
> >):
>
> > if you're sitting and don't move, you can put some kind of buffle. Could help
> > with couple db of separation. You could put some kind of foam funnel/
> > wrapping over a mic to, hopefully, make it more directional and comparativly
> > more sensitive in direction.
>
> I thought we were talking about playing out. In the studio, I'd use a
> schoeps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA

I was talking about playing out. If recording is so
important, sound of guitar, and he does not move much,
he can do things to make that recording better, like
buffle, or whatever.

Ty Ford
March 8th 11, 07:13 PM
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:28:07 -0500, Luxey wrote
(in article
>):

> On 7 мар, 02:49, Ty Ford > wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:51:56 -0500, Luxey wrote
>> (in article
>> >):
>>
>>> if you're sitting and don't move, you can put some kind of buffle. Could
>>> help
>>> with couple db of separation. You could put some kind of foam funnel/
>>> wrapping over a mic to, hopefully, make it more directional and
>>> comparativly
>>> more sensitive in direction.
>>
>> I thought we were talking about playing out. In the studio, I'd use a
>> schoeps.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ty Ford
>>
>> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
>> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
>> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA
>
> I was talking about playing out. If recording is so
> important, sound of guitar, and he does not move much,
> he can do things to make that recording better, like
> buffle, or whatever.

A Baffle....well that sort of depends on how much stage you have and how much
you want to be seen. I have used a Schoeps on a dobro in live performance and
it was totally amazing, but the thought of seeing a Schoeps drop to the stage
due to careless handling makes most people not want to use them. You also
want to keep sticky fingers away from them.

Regards,

Ty Ford

--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
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Nate Najar
March 8th 11, 08:16 PM
On Mar 8, 2:13*pm, Ty Ford > wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:28:07 -0500, Luxey wrote
> (in article
> >):
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 7 , 02:49, Ty Ford > wrote:
> >> On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:51:56 -0500, Luxey wrote
> >> (in article
> >> >):
>
> >>> if you're sitting and don't move, you can put some kind of buffle. Could
> >>> help
> >>> with couple db of separation. You could put some kind of foam funnel/
> >>> wrapping over a mic to, hopefully, make it more directional and
> >>> comparativly
> >>> more sensitive in direction.
>
> >> I thought we were talking about playing out. In the studio, I'd use a
> >> schoeps.
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Ty Ford
>
> >> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> >> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> >> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA
>
> > I was talking about playing out. If recording is so
> > important, sound of guitar, and he does not move much,
> > he can do things to make that recording better, like
> > buffle, or whatever.
>
> A Baffle....well that sort of depends on how much stage you have and how much
> you want to be seen. I have used a Schoeps on a dobro in live performance and
> it was totally amazing, but the thought of seeing a Schoeps drop to the stage
> due to careless handling makes most people not want to use them. You also
> want to keep sticky fingers away from them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA

I can't really use any gobos on a live thing.... and I have no
problem bringing the schoeps with me, I just thought the dpa would be
better because i can get it closer to the guitar. i think i was
wrong.

N

Luxey
March 9th 11, 08:15 AM
On 8 аМаАб€, 20:13, Ty Ford > wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:28:07 -0500, Luxey wrote
> (in article
> >):

> A Baffle....well that sort of depends on how much stage you have and how much
> you want to be seen.

It could be transparent one, on a side towards drums...
Just an idea, why not?
also, I had another one, about "shield" arround the mic.
That one don't take of usefull space.