Re: How much EQ should a mic need?

[Arny Krueger]

"muzician21" > wrote in message


> Thinking primarily of vocal tracks, how intensely should
> you expect to eq something?

Whatver it takes, but do take a good listen to the unprocessed sound. See
what can be done acoustically.

> Should the sound of the mic be mostly "good" as is and should need only
> mild tweaking
> or is it often pretty radically altered?

That is entirely dependent on what you get to work with and what your goals
are.

[Mark]

On Sep 1, 8:35*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "muzician21" > wrote in message
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> > Thinking primarily of vocal tracks, how intensely should
> > you expect to eq something?
>
> Whatver it takes, but do take a good listen to the unprocessed sound. See
> what can be done acoustically.
>
> > Should the sound of the mic be mostly "good" as is and should need only
> > mild tweaking
> > or is it often pretty radically altered?
>
> That is entirely dependent on what you get to work with and what your goals
> are.

I'll add this aspect..

when you track (record) with a certain mic, whatever coloration the
mic adds, you are more or less stuck with... so it's a good idea to
use a good mic

if you want to EQ during mixing, you are free to change it and
experiment all you want, over and over......

consider the logistics of ...you get to record only once (or a few
times) but you can mix (and EQ) all you want...

Mark

[Arny Krueger]

"Mark" > wrote in message

> On Sep 1, 8:35 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "muzician21" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thinking primarily of vocal tracks, how intensely should
>>> you expect to eq something?
>>
>> Whatver it takes, but do take a good listen to the
>> unprocessed sound. See what can be done acoustically.
>>
>>> Should the sound of the mic be mostly "good" as is and
>>> should need only mild tweaking
>>> or is it often pretty radically altered?
>>
>> That is entirely dependent on what you get to work with
>> and what your goals are.
>
> I'll add this aspect..
>
> when you track (record) with a certain mic, whatever
> coloration the mic adds, you are more or less stuck
> with... so it's a good idea to use a good mic
>
> if you want to EQ during mixing, you are free to change
> it and experiment all you want, over and over......
>
> consider the logistics of ...you get to record only once
> (or a few times) but you can mix (and EQ) all you want...

Agreed. I track clean and do the EQ during the mixdown.

[WillStG]

On Sep 1, 12:46*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Mark" > wrote in message
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> > On Sep 1, 8:35 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "muzician21" > wrote in message
>
>
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> >>> Thinking primarily of vocal tracks, how intensely should
> >>> you expect to eq something?
>
> >> Whatver it takes, but do take a good listen to the
> >> unprocessed sound. See what can be done acoustically.
>
> >>> Should the sound of the mic be mostly "good" as is and
> >>> should need only mild tweaking
> >>> or is it often pretty radically altered?
>
> >> That is entirely dependent on what you get to work with
> >> and what your goals are.
>
> > I'll add this aspect..
>
> > when you track (record) with a certain mic, whatever
> > coloration the mic adds, you are more or less stuck
> > with... so it's a good idea to use a good mic
>
> > if you want to EQ during mixing, you are free to change
> > it and experiment all you want, over and over......
>
> > consider the logistics of ...you get to record only once
> > (or a few times) but you can mix (and EQ) all you want...
>
> Agreed. I track clean and do the EQ during the mixdown.

I'm printing tracking sessions with about half the eq I think I'm
going to add later. There are different ways of working and
production lines, and printing with some eq works in my situation -
where I know what sound I'm going for, I'm usually working on an
analog desk and using Pro Tools as a tape recorder, and where
sometimes someone else may be mixing on another desk or "in the box"/
Pro Tools.

Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[gtbuba]

On Sep 1, 5:11*pm, WillStG > wrote:
> On Sep 1, 12:46*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
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> > "Mark" > wrote in message
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> > > On Sep 1, 8:35 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > wrote:
> > >> "muzician21" > wrote in message
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> > >>> Thinking primarily of vocal tracks, how intensely should
> > >>> you expect to eq something?
>
> > >> Whatver it takes, but do take a good listen to the
> > >> unprocessed sound. See what can be done acoustically.
>
> > >>> Should the sound of the mic be mostly "good" as is and
> > >>> should need only mild tweaking
> > >>> or is it often pretty radically altered?
>
> > >> That is entirely dependent on what you get to work with
> > >> and what your goals are.
>
> > > I'll add this aspect..
>
> > > when you track (record) with a certain mic, whatever
> > > coloration the mic adds, you are more or less stuck
> > > with... so it's a good idea to use a good mic
>
> > > if you want to EQ during mixing, you are free to change
> > > it and experiment all you want, over and over......
>
> > > consider the logistics of ...you get to record only once
> > > (or a few times) but you can mix (and EQ) all you want...
>
> > Agreed. I track clean and do the EQ during the mixdown.
>
> * * *I'm printing tracking sessions with about half the eq I think I'm
> going to add later. *There are different ways of working and
> production lines, and printing with some eq works in my situation -
> where I know what sound I'm going for, I'm usually working on an
> analog desk and using Pro Tools as a tape recorder, and where
> sometimes someone else may be mixing on another desk or "in the box"/
> Pro Tools.
>
> Will Miho
> NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
> "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

No rules just right...........No record with or without a little
compression. No eq until you mix. I have to use 2- 5dbs of highs with
my U87 API Distressor vocal chain. It's the Distressror. I love that
compressor,but it takes a little high off.
GT.