yrret
August 24th 10, 03:31 AM
I think the only one you haven't mentioned is Sony Vegas. Its as much a
multi-track audio editor as it is a video editor. Its major drawback is its
never really developed a useful way of organising edits. Gets real
frustrating if your editing a long-form anything. But its cheap.
I agree that Avid is probably what your after.
"andrew.zey" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to start a video project which will be synced to
> recordings of classical music that will have to include the ability to
> mix voice, music, ambiance, narrative, and sound effects.
>
> I'm looking for the best video editing software which will have
> capable audio mixing either built in or integrated in the suite (Like
> Soundtrack Pro in Final Cut Studio or Adobe Premiere's built-in audio
> mixing). This is important as the music is tightly synced to the
> video, so the layout must be done first in the video editor, then
> exported and polished in the audio mixing software. I must be able to
> retain clip positions from the video editor.
>
> I've tried both Soundtrack Pro 3 (as part of the most recent update of
> Final Cut Studio), and Adobe Premiere CS5. I've run into significant
> problems with both:
>
> Final Cut Studio [3.0] / Final Cut Pro 7 (FCP) / Soundtrack Pro 3.0
> (STP)
>
> 1. FCP Doesn't allow convenient sub-frame editing. It can be done, but
> very awkwardly
> 2. FCP Limited to AIFF files, as WAV sometimes has serious drifting
> problems due to mis-identification of SMPTE framerate.
> 3. FCP & STP have undefined meters (don't specify which algorithm is
> used). Both ignore peaks which are detected in WaveLab 6 running on PC
> 4. STP Inability to pan submix busses and master mix.
> 5. STP Inability to nest/group busses (so I only have 1 level of
> grouping available that would allow panning)
> 6. STP Inability to copy&paste any effects or automation data
> 7. STP is counter-intuitive, as it requires at least 1 sub-mix, which
> cannot be panned!
> 8. STP each AUX bus has to be mapped to a submix bus
> 9. All of the FCS only supports AU plugins, not MacVST's.
>
> Points 4-8 are really a deal-breaker with STP, as it makes it
> extremely clumsy and awkward to get any serious mixing done.
>
> Adobe Premiere CS5 (AP)
>
> 1. Random audio stuttering and skipping (playhead moves smoothly and
> predictably, but the audio that is being played back skips and starts
> playing from random parts of the clip that have no relation to the
> position of the playhead). This holds true using AIFF files on Mac OS
> X 10.6.4. I will experiment with WAV files to see if I can avoid this
> problem.
>
> 2. AP doesn't have traditional panning controls. Each stereo track has
> to be split into mono channels, and the volumes keyframed separately.
> This makes it very awkward to see where the combined sound is in
> relation to center.
>
> 3. AP doesn't allow vertical zoom of clips in timeline.
>
> 4. AP also has undefined meters algorithm.
>
> I haven't yet tried Adobe Soundbooth CS5, but my look at the previous
> version CS4 was very disappointing - it looked like a program for
> novices.
>
> So what is the most common software / suite for video editing and
> audio mastering / mixing on PC AND Mac amongst audio professionals?
>
> I am on a modern Mac, so I can do both Windows and Mac. The tool will
> determine the platform.
>
> Thanks so much in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
multi-track audio editor as it is a video editor. Its major drawback is its
never really developed a useful way of organising edits. Gets real
frustrating if your editing a long-form anything. But its cheap.
I agree that Avid is probably what your after.
"andrew.zey" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Everybody,
>
> I'm looking to start a video project which will be synced to
> recordings of classical music that will have to include the ability to
> mix voice, music, ambiance, narrative, and sound effects.
>
> I'm looking for the best video editing software which will have
> capable audio mixing either built in or integrated in the suite (Like
> Soundtrack Pro in Final Cut Studio or Adobe Premiere's built-in audio
> mixing). This is important as the music is tightly synced to the
> video, so the layout must be done first in the video editor, then
> exported and polished in the audio mixing software. I must be able to
> retain clip positions from the video editor.
>
> I've tried both Soundtrack Pro 3 (as part of the most recent update of
> Final Cut Studio), and Adobe Premiere CS5. I've run into significant
> problems with both:
>
> Final Cut Studio [3.0] / Final Cut Pro 7 (FCP) / Soundtrack Pro 3.0
> (STP)
>
> 1. FCP Doesn't allow convenient sub-frame editing. It can be done, but
> very awkwardly
> 2. FCP Limited to AIFF files, as WAV sometimes has serious drifting
> problems due to mis-identification of SMPTE framerate.
> 3. FCP & STP have undefined meters (don't specify which algorithm is
> used). Both ignore peaks which are detected in WaveLab 6 running on PC
> 4. STP Inability to pan submix busses and master mix.
> 5. STP Inability to nest/group busses (so I only have 1 level of
> grouping available that would allow panning)
> 6. STP Inability to copy&paste any effects or automation data
> 7. STP is counter-intuitive, as it requires at least 1 sub-mix, which
> cannot be panned!
> 8. STP each AUX bus has to be mapped to a submix bus
> 9. All of the FCS only supports AU plugins, not MacVST's.
>
> Points 4-8 are really a deal-breaker with STP, as it makes it
> extremely clumsy and awkward to get any serious mixing done.
>
> Adobe Premiere CS5 (AP)
>
> 1. Random audio stuttering and skipping (playhead moves smoothly and
> predictably, but the audio that is being played back skips and starts
> playing from random parts of the clip that have no relation to the
> position of the playhead). This holds true using AIFF files on Mac OS
> X 10.6.4. I will experiment with WAV files to see if I can avoid this
> problem.
>
> 2. AP doesn't have traditional panning controls. Each stereo track has
> to be split into mono channels, and the volumes keyframed separately.
> This makes it very awkward to see where the combined sound is in
> relation to center.
>
> 3. AP doesn't allow vertical zoom of clips in timeline.
>
> 4. AP also has undefined meters algorithm.
>
> I haven't yet tried Adobe Soundbooth CS5, but my look at the previous
> version CS4 was very disappointing - it looked like a program for
> novices.
>
> So what is the most common software / suite for video editing and
> audio mastering / mixing on PC AND Mac amongst audio professionals?
>
> I am on a modern Mac, so I can do both Windows and Mac. The tool will
> determine the platform.
>
> Thanks so much in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>