If Vinylsnatch and Shitter were less doofusish.... [Archive]

Boon[_2_]

May 22nd 10, 05:45 PM

On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
> On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> *Who's really crazy, us or you?

Neither.

>
> *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.

I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.

>
> *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.

Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
"sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
one is wrong...and just plain dumb.

>
> *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> supposedly do.

Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
Then it's time to step in and take them out.

Clyde Slick

May 22nd 10, 07:12 PM

On May 22, 12:10*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:01*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 8:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down.
>
> > * You should stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> You should stop being a last word freak. When you're beaten, just walk
> away. Don't say something stupid and vague like "you should stop
> embarrassing yourself." You're the one who's embarrassing...you've
> wasted the time of so many people here by engaging them in nonsensical
> arguments and not revealing that you're autistic. You should come with
> a warning label: I AM AUTISTIC, SO I CANNOT RESPOND TO IRONY,
> SUBTLETY, SARCASM, WORDPLAY, HUMOR OR EMOTION. PROCEED WITH CAUTION.

Scott is not autistic, it is the farthest thing from the truth,
so you should get off that schtick, and if you still want to
be critical of him, "at least" move on to playing off of something
more realistic,
not like there aren't any other of his foibles to play off of.
"At least" when Scott vamps on you, it is more reality based,
though he hasn't the creative mind i find in you.
A good writer like you ought to be able to do better!

Just some constructive criticism, to keep the entertainment
value of this group on a consistently high plane.

Clyde Slick

May 22nd 10, 07:13 PM

On May 22, 12:19*pm, Bret L > wrote:
> On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> supposedly do.

i like to poke sharp needles in crazy people like you.
Not all crazy people are harmless

Clyde Slick

May 22nd 10, 07:15 PM

On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> Neither.
>
>
>
> > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
>
>
> > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
>
>
> > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > supposedly do.
>
> Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> Then it's time to step in and take them out.

I like the sound analog and tube audio.
It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
good riddance to Arny

Boon[_2_]

May 22nd 10, 07:23 PM

On May 22, 1:12*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 22, 12:10*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 11:01*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 8:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down.
>
> > > * You should stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> > You should stop being a last word freak. When you're beaten, just walk
> > away. Don't say something stupid and vague like "you should stop
> > embarrassing yourself." You're the one who's embarrassing...you've
> > wasted the time of so many people here by engaging them in nonsensical
> > arguments and not revealing that you're autistic. You should come with
> > a warning label: I AM AUTISTIC, SO I CANNOT RESPOND TO IRONY,
> > SUBTLETY, SARCASM, WORDPLAY, HUMOR OR EMOTION. PROCEED WITH CAUTION.
>
> Scott is not autistic, it is the farthest thing from the truth,
> so you should get off that schtick, and if you still want to
> be critical of him, "at least" move on to playing off of something
> more realistic,
> not like there aren't any other of his foibles to play off of.
> "At least" when Scott vamps on you, it is more reality based,
> though he hasn't the creative mind i find in you.
> A good writer like you ought to be able to do better!
>
> Just some constructive criticism, to keep the entertainment
> value of this group on a consistently high plane.

Someone told me a few years ago that Scott had Aspergers. Scott
himself has not denied this. His posting behaviors support this, as
confirmed by two behavior therapists. Since I have spent the last few
years working as an advocate for special needs children, I can tell
you that Scott's behaviors both in person and online are well within
the parameters of ASD. A normal person doesn't spam discussion groups
with OT political posts and then duck out when outmatched and
outsmarted.

At the same time, he felt it necessary to make fun of my "special
needs" child on several occasions while suffering from the same
disorder. If he was honest and forthcoming about all of this, there
wouldn't be a problem. But Scott is a tremendous hypocrite, one of the
more flagrant I've ever seen.

And I take exception to your comment that Scott's "vamps" are more
"reality-based" when he has consistently lied about me and my family
on countless occasions. If you think I'm the bad guy here, remember
that Scott always struck first. I ignored him on RAO for many years
while people were emailing me saying, "How can you be friends with
this idiot?" I didn't turn on him until he started saying I was an
audio fraud, or he started talking about my family and personal life.

Boon[_2_]

May 22nd 10, 07:24 PM

On May 22, 1:15*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest..
>
> > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > Neither.
>
> > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > supposedly do.
>
> > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> good riddance to Arny- Hide quoted text -

Well, that's what Bratzi just did to Shhh! for asking a perfectly
reasonable question. He called him an idiot and an imbecile.

Clyde Slick

May 22nd 10, 09:49 PM

On May 22, 2:24*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On May 22, 1:15*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > Neither.
>
> > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage..
> > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > good riddance to Arny- Hide quoted text -
>
> Well, that's what Bratzi just did to Shhh! for asking a perfectly
> reasonable question. He called him an idiot and an imbecile.

"at least" Bratzi didn't invalidate his right to having an opinion
without succumbing to an eye gouging.

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 22nd 10, 11:10 PM

On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > dumbest ones here.
>
> *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> false claims of disability as an insult?
>
> Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> of an autistic person.
>
> Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.

Ah, I see you're here to join the audio discussions.

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 22nd 10, 11:52 PM

On May 22, 5:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
> *I don't find ignoring people who deserve being ignored that big a
> problem.
> *RAO with it's current crop of charade usenet cops is pretty dull.

Here for the polite conversation about audio, I see.

LoL. Once a hypocrite, always a hypocrite. LoL.

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 22nd 10, 11:53 PM

On May 22, 4:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:23*am, Boon > wrote:

> > Someone told me a few years ago that Scott had Aspergers. Scott
> > himself has not denied this.
>
> * Thus is the fantasy world of Phillips formed.

If it isn't true, why are you so clueless and why do you lack self-
awareness?

I'd take the out that's been offered. At least you'd have an excuse.
LoL.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 04:15 AM

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 04:17 AM

On May 22, 3:49*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 22, 2:24*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 1:15*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people.. That
> > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > good riddance to Arny- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, that's what Bratzi just did to Shhh! for asking a perfectly
> > reasonable question. He called him an idiot and an imbecile.
>
> "at least" Bratzi didn't invalidate his right to having an opinion
> without succumbing to an eye gouging.

It isn't that Bratzi doesn't want to, it's just that he hasn't gotten
to any of the Mengele books in his personal library yet.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 04:19 AM

On May 22, 5:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> *RAO with it's current crop of charade usenet cops is pretty dull.

Whatever a "crop of charade usenet (sic) cops" is.

Anyway, yeah, audio is (or was, before your unfortunate reappearance)
getting discussed again.

WTF is up with that? How boring!

Clyde Slick

May 23rd 10, 05:22 AM

On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > Neither.
>
> > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage..
> > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > good riddance to Arny
>
> *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.

Arny shouted down anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
invalidate such opinions
by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
DBT tirade.
When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?

> *I don't find ignoring people who deserve being ignored that big a
> problem.
> *RAO with it's current crop of charade usenet cops is pretty dull.
>
> ScottW

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 05:28 AM

On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:

> When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?

Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
demands that others do them.

As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.

Clyde Slick

May 23rd 10, 05:29 AM

On May 22, 11:15*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:

>
> The real nugget is that you're both dumber than a concrete highway and
> about as interesting to discuss things with.
>
> Concrete is sometimes used to pave roads although asphalt is far more
> common. If the drainage isn't done properly...
>
> LOL!

the bar isn't that low.
http://www.californiaconnected.org/tv/archives/74

Clyde Slick

May 23rd 10, 05:32 AM

On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> demands that others do them.
>
> As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.

more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
in one.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 05:34 AM

On May 22, 11:29*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:15*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
>
> > The real nugget is that you're both dumber than a concrete highway and
> > about as interesting to discuss things with.
>
> > Concrete is sometimes used to pave roads although asphalt is far more
> > common. If the drainage isn't done properly...
>
> > LOL!
>
> the bar isn't that low.http://www.californiaconnected.org/tv/archives/74

They know 2pid:

Their premise is bold: cars and roads are smart and safe, while
drivers are risky and not so bright.

2pid apparently took out a couiple of cars recently.

Bret L

May 23rd 10, 10:31 AM

>
> > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd..
>
> Arny shouted down anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> invalidate such opinions
> by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> DBT tirade.

I had no problem dealing with Arny. He was fun to argue with because
he had some legitimate technical background. He wrote several articles
for DCHA in the TAA salad days before his DBT fetish caused a breakup.
DCHA privately thought (as best I could determine) that the DBT people
were technically right but that DBT was church-wrecking theology-and
DCHA was a churchman by training and career. Tactically I agreed with
this decision then and now.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 07:31 PM

On May 23, 1:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > Arny shouted down
>
> *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> regard.
>
> > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > invalidate such opinions
>
> *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > DBT tirade.
>
> *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> pretty disgusting levels.
>
> *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> high (relative to SS)
> distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> systems.
> He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> aren't audibly different
> than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> and analog as a personal
> preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.

This is a lie. Anybody who said they thought tubes or vinyl sounded
better than SS or CD was immediately hooted down.

Any time that turntables or tubes were discussed GOIA would jump in
with distortion statistics and other irrelevant claptrap.
..
> > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.

Ah, a 'superior model' human! LoL.

What a load of ****. LoL.

> But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.

"My Orions are more accurate." -- 2pid

Prove it, dimbulb. Prove that you prefer the Orions blind versus
another, cheaper pair. LoL.

The only other option is to for you to stop being a hypocrite but we
won't ask the impossible of you. LoL.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 08:10 PM

On May 23, 1:48*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 23, 11:31*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"

> > > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > This is a lie. Anybody who said they thought tubes or vinyl sounded
> > better than SS or CD was immediately hooted down.
>
> (snip of shhtards best owl imitation which follows)

(Add all of the smart things that 2pid has ever said on RAO):

....

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 08:46 PM

On May 23, 2:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 9:32*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.
>
> > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > in one.
>
> Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> subject?
>
> Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> ridiculously false statements about my position.
> That insanity mirrors Arny's.

I've posted a challenge for you, wormboy.

You should read it before you slink off...again. LoL.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 23rd 10, 09:50 PM

On May 23, 2:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?

Would a DBT show that your Orions are "more accurate" than another
speaker as you claimed?

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 02:01 AM

On May 22, 4:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:23*am, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 1:12*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 12:10*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 11:01*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 8:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down.
>
> > > > > * You should stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> > > > You should stop being a last word freak. When you're beaten, just walk
> > > > away. Don't say something stupid and vague like "you should stop
> > > > embarrassing yourself." You're the one who's embarrassing...you've
> > > > wasted the time of so many people here by engaging them in nonsensical
> > > > arguments and not revealing that you're autistic. You should come with
> > > > a warning label: I AM AUTISTIC, SO I CANNOT RESPOND TO IRONY,
> > > > SUBTLETY, SARCASM, WORDPLAY, HUMOR OR EMOTION. PROCEED WITH CAUTION..
>
> > > Scott is not autistic, it is the farthest thing from the truth,
> > > so you should get off that schtick, and if you still want to
> > > be critical of him, "at least" move on to playing off of something
> > > more realistic,
> > > not like there aren't any other of his foibles to play off of.
> > > "At least" when Scott vamps on you, it is more reality based,
> > > though he hasn't the creative mind i find in you.
> > > A good writer like you ought to be able to do better!
>
> > > Just some constructive criticism, to keep the entertainment
> > > value of this group on a consistently high plane.
>
> > Someone told me a few years ago that Scott had Aspergers. Scott
> > himself has not denied this.
>
> * Thus is the fantasy world of Phillips formed.

No, not really. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a long, long
time. But your symptoms are way too obvious to ignore.

But hey, I'm trying to give you an out here, and you won't take it.
You'd rather be known as a really dumb asshole.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 02:01 AM

On May 22, 5:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > Neither.
>
> > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage..
> > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > good riddance to Arny
>
> *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
> *I don't find ignoring people who deserve being ignored that big a
> problem.
> *RAO with it's

It's "its," moron.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 02:02 AM

On May 22, 5:53*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On May 22, 4:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 11:23*am, Boon > wrote:
> > > Someone told me a few years ago that Scott had Aspergers. Scott
> > > himself has not denied this.
>
> > * Thus is the fantasy world of Phillips formed.
>
> If it isn't true, why are you so clueless and why do you lack self-
> awareness?
>
> I'd take the out that's been offered. At least you'd have an excuse.
> LoL.

Read my mind. Sorry to repeat what you said.

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 02:58 AM

On May 23, 2:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>

> > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > Arny shouted down
>
> *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> regard.
>

he certainly did, he hijacked discussions by cinstantly
'interjecting the irrelevant issue of dbt's

> > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > invalidate such opinions
>
> *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.

civilized and respectful people respect other peoples
rights to hold differeig opionions, as arny did not

>
> > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > DBT tirade.
>
> *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> pretty disgusting levels.
>

which began with arny's false accusations regarding kp.

> *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> high (relative to SS)
> distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> systems.
> He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> aren't audibly different
> than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> and analog as a personal
> preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.

no, as many discussions were comparative between items within
the same class.

>
> > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.
>

evidence?
its opinion and matter of taste.

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 03:02 AM

On May 23, 3:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 9:32*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.
>
> > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > in one.
>
> Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> subject?
>
> Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> ridiculously false statements about my position.
> That insanity mirrors Arny's.
>
> ScottW

i was nice enough to send you, at my expense, one of my tube preamps
form my collection, across country by parcel post, for you to use on
an
indefinite basis. the last time i used it, it did not
buzz or hum. I think it is rude of you to ridicule me for
the fact that when it got to your house, something
had happened during shipping.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 03:19 AM

On May 23, 9:02*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 23, 3:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 9:32*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.
>
> > > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > > in one.
>
> > Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> > subject?
>
> > Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> > if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> > There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> > ridiculously false statements about my position.
> > That insanity mirrors Arny's.
>
> > ScottW
>
> i was nice enough to send you, at my expense, one of my tube preamps
> form my collection, across country by parcel post, for you to use on
> an
> indefinite basis. the last time i used it, it did not
> buzz or hum. I think it is rude of you to ridicule me for
> the fact that when it got to your house, something
> had happened during shipping.

And so it begins...Scott stabbing another friend in the back.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 03:26 AM

On May 23, 1:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > Arny shouted down
>
> *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> regard.
>
> > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > invalidate such opinions
>
> *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > DBT tirade.
>
> *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> pretty disgusting levels.
>
> *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> high (relative to SS)
> distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> systems.
> He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> aren't audibly different
> than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> and analog as a personal
> preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.

Well, the evidence would be the fact that your systems always sound
terrible, and mine didn't. And if there were combinations that didn't
quite work, it was always equipment I had in for review, and not my
actual reference systems.

The Orions probably make your system sound better than ever before,
but the simple truth is that you don't have the equipment to bring out
the best of the Orions. An old Yamaha preamp, a pair of Quad ESLs set
on unstable wooden stools and of course your POS Mitsubishi TT...the
evidence is overwhleming that you are unable to assemble a nice-
sounding system. Of course you hide behind specs and engineering, but
it still lets you down.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 03:27 AM

On May 23, 1:48*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 23, 11:31*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On May 23, 1:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet..
>
> > > > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > > > Arny shouted down
>
> > > *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> > > it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> > > regard.
>
> > > > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > > > invalidate such opinions
>
> > > *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > > > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > > > DBT tirade.
>
> > > *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> > > pretty disgusting levels.
>
> > > *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> > > high (relative to SS)
> > > distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> > > systems.
> > > He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> > > aren't audibly different
> > > than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> > > and analog as a personal
> > > preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> > > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > This is a lie. Anybody who said they thought tubes or vinyl sounded
> > better than SS or CD was immediately hooted down.
>
> (snip of shhtards best owl imitation which follows)

Run away, audio fraud. Run away.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 24th 10, 03:43 AM

On May 23, 9:19*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On May 23, 9:02*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 3:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:32*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.
>
> > > > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > > > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > > > in one.
>
> > > Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> > > subject?
>
> > > Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> > > if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> > > There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> > > ridiculously false statements about my position.
> > > That insanity mirrors Arny's.
>
> > > ScottW
>
> > i was nice enough to send you, at my expense, one of my tube preamps
> > form my collection, across country by parcel post, for you to use on
> > an
> > indefinite basis. the last time i used it, it did not
> > buzz or hum. I think it is rude of you to ridicule me for
> > the fact that when it got to your house, something
> > had happened during shipping.
>
> And so it begins...Scott stabbing another friend in the back.

Its you're fault for poorly choosing ingrateful friend's to begin
with. LoL.

Boon[_2_]

May 24th 10, 03:50 AM

On May 23, 9:43�pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On May 23, 9:19�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 9:02�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 3:29�pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:32�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 23, 12:28�am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On May 22, 11:22�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > > > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > > > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > > > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do..
>
> > > > > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > > > > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > > > > in one.
>
> > > > Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> > > > subject?
>
> > > > Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> > > > if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> > > > There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> > > > ridiculously false statements about my position.
> > > > That insanity mirrors Arny's.
>
> > > > ScottW
>
> > > i was nice enough to send you, at my expense, one of my tube preamps
> > > form my collection, across country by parcel post, for you to use on
> > > an
> > > indefinite basis. the last time i used it, it did not
> > > buzz or hum. I think it is rude of you to ridicule me for
> > > the fact that when it got to your house, something
> > > had happened during shipping.
>
> > And so it begins...Scott stabbing another friend in the back.
>
> Its you're fault for poorly choosing ingrateful friend's to begin
> with. LoL.

Well, meeting Art was worth it. 2pid...not so much.

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 04:43 AM

On May 23, 10:26*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On May 23, 1:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that..
> > > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > > Arny shouted down
>
> > *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> > it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> > regard.
>
> > > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > > invalidate such opinions
>
> > *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > > DBT tirade.
>
> > *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> > pretty disgusting levels.
>
> > *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> > high (relative to SS)
> > distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> > systems.
> > He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> > aren't audibly different
> > than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> > and analog as a personal
> > preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> > or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> > But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> > I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.
>
> Well, the evidence would be the fact that your systems always sound
> terrible, and mine didn't. And if there were combinations that didn't
> quite work, it was always equipment I had in for review, and not my
> actual reference systems.
>
> The Orions probably make your system sound better than ever before,
> but the simple truth is that you don't have the equipment to bring out
> the best of the Orions. An old Yamaha preamp, a pair of Quad ESLs set
> on unstable wooden stools and of course your POS Mitsubishi TT...the
> evidence is overwhleming that you are unable to assemble a nice-
> sounding system. Of course you hide behind specs and engineering, but
> it still lets you down.

Oddly enough, i found it more enjoyable than the
last system i heard at your house, with the SE tube amps.
I found that myopic and constrained, there were missing pieces
to the sound. It was not realistic.
Scott's sytem was very good, not world class, but enjoyable for
hours of listening without fatigue. that was with the quads.

not trying to pick a fight, just stating my audio preference.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 24th 10, 05:32 AM

On May 23, 11:28*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> *You're not addressing the point.

LOL!

Are you ready to prove your turntable claims, dum-dum?

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 12:17 PM

On May 24, 12:28*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 23, 7:02*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 3:29*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:32*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 12:28*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > On May 22, 11:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > > Surely you jest. 2pid merely mocks those that don't do DBTs and
> > > > > demands that others do them.
>
> > > > > As for 2pid, he buys his gear off reviews and sighted listening and
> > > > > spec sheets and what appeals to him just like the rest of us do.
>
> > > > more specifically, he places great stock in what he subjectively
> > > > thinks an "objective" DBT would show, if he were ever to participate
> > > > in one.
>
> > > Why would you bother to "shout down" my true opinions on this
> > > subject?
>
> > > Exactly what do you think I think a DBT will show for example
> > > if we put one of your buzzing citation 2s up against my preamp?
>
> > > There are times when your DBT phobia drives you to make some
> > > ridiculously false statements about my position.
> > > That insanity mirrors Arny's.
>
> > > ScottW
>
> > i was nice enough to send you, at my expense, one of my tube preamps
> > form my collection, across country by parcel post, for you to use on
> > an
> > indefinite basis. the last time i used it, it did not
> > buzz or hum.
>
> *And I was willing to fix it for you at my expense until you insisted
> on
> approving the parts I bought and wanted to use camera flash
> caps. *Ever smell the stench of burning caps?
> Very unpleasant. Not something I wanted to risk in my home.
> So I returned it at my expense after
> wasting a fair amount of time identifying the correct parts
> needed to fix it. *But I didn't bitch about that. *I respected
> your wishes, I double box packed it up carefully and returned it.
>
> > I think it is rude of you to ridicule me for
> > the fact that when it got to your house, something
> > had happened during shipping.
>
> *You're not addressing the point. I'm sorry your pre-amp
> buzzed and I'm sorry for giving you a little grief about it.
> *I'm also sorry you want to rudely make **** up
> about my position on DBTs.
>
> ScottW

LOL!!
we all know your position on DBT's!
and i care about what caps and parts go into my amp,
they make a difference hat i can percieve, and my tastes are not your
tastes.

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 12:21 PM

On May 24, 1:02*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On May 23, 8:43*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 10:26*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 1:15*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:22*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 6:34*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 11:15*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 12:45*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 11:19*am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52*am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47*am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > *I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > > > *Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > > > *If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > > > *That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > > > > *Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > > > > *You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? *I find that odd.
>
> > > > > Arny shouted down
>
> > > > *If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> > > > it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> > > > regard.
>
> > > > > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > > > > invalidate such opinions
>
> > > > *such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > > > > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > > > > DBT tirade.
>
> > > > *Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> > > > pretty disgusting levels.
>
> > > > *The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> > > > high (relative to SS)
> > > > distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> > > > systems.
> > > > He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> > > > aren't audibly different
> > > > than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> > > > and analog as a personal
> > > > preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> > > > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > > > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> > > > or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> > > > But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> > > > I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.
>
> > > Well, the evidence would be the fact that your systems always sound
> > > terrible, and mine didn't. And if there were combinations that didn't
> > > quite work, it was always equipment I had in for review, and not my
> > > actual reference systems.
>
> > > The Orions probably make your system sound better than ever before,
> > > but the simple truth is that you don't have the equipment to bring out
> > > the best of the Orions. An old Yamaha preamp, a pair of Quad ESLs set
> > > on unstable wooden stools and of course your POS Mitsubishi TT...the
> > > evidence is overwhleming that you are unable to assemble a nice-
> > > sounding system. Of course you hide behind specs and engineering, but
> > > it still lets you down.
>
> > Oddly enough, i found it more enjoyable than the
> > last system i heard at your house, with the SE tube amps.
> > I found that myopic and constrained, there were missing pieces
> > to the sound. It was not realistic.
> > Scott's sytem was very good, not world class, but enjoyable for
> > hours of listening without fatigue. that was with the quads.
>
> > not trying to pick a fight, just stating my audio preference.
>
> *You'd probably like the Orions.
> *They can provide a much more realistic live like presentation
> *with the right source.
> *Little Feat Kickin it at the Barn really kicks on the Orions.
> *Not much "kicks" on the Quads in the sense that they don't
> move enough air to make you feel anything.
> But I still like vinyl better on the Quads.
>
> ScottW

a cd that sounds great on my system!
I am sure that it would not be so great on quads, they don't rock.
Quads are great for other stuff, but are not good
for everything.
I would like to hear the Orions, but I am not
going to SD, no more family there.

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 24th 10, 08:27 PM

On May 24, 6:21*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 24, 1:02*am, ScottW > wrote:

> > *Little Feat Kickin it at the Barn really kicks on the Orions.
> > *Not much "kicks" on the Quads in the sense that they don't
> > move enough air to make you feel anything.
> > But I still like vinyl better on the Quads.

> a cd that sounds great on my system!
> I am sure that it would not be so great on quads, they don't rock.
> Quads are great for other stuff, but are not good
> for everything.
> I would like to hear the Orions, but I am not
> going to SD, no more family there.

If you like Little Feat and vinyl, see if you can pick up an MFSL
pressing of "Waiting for Columbus". I see them on eBay frequently for
under $20. It's live and has the Tower of Power horns, and sounds
great to me.

Clyde Slick

May 24th 10, 11:11 PM

On May 24, 3:27*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On May 24, 6:21*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > On May 24, 1:02*am, ScottW > wrote:
> > > *Little Feat Kickin it at the Barn really kicks on the Orions.
> > > *Not much "kicks" on the Quads in the sense that they don't
> > > move enough air to make you feel anything.
> > > But I still like vinyl better on the Quads.
> > a cd that sounds great on my system!
> > I am sure that it would not be so great on quads, they don't rock.
> > Quads are great for other stuff, but are not good
> > for everything.
> > I would like to hear the Orions, but I am not
> > going to SD, no more family there.
>
> If you like Little Feat and vinyl, see if you can pick up an MFSL
> pressing of "Waiting for Columbus". I see them on eBay frequently for
> under $20. It's live and has the Tower of Power horns, and sounds
> great to me.

thanks, i already have one
my favorite live album of all time, an excellent recording

other live favorties
JAmes Brown at the Appolo
BB King Cook County Jail
bb kING AT THE regal
Jefferson Airplane - Bless Its Pointed Little Head
The first Hot tuna album
Albert Collins Live album (in Japan?)

Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!

May 25th 10, 09:30 AM

On May 24, 5:11*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 24, 3:27*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On May 24, 6:21*am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 24, 1:02*am, ScottW > wrote:
> > > > *Little Feat Kickin it at the Barn really kicks on the Orions.
> > > > *Not much "kicks" on the Quads in the sense that they don't
> > > > move enough air to make you feel anything.
> > > > But I still like vinyl better on the Quads.
> > > a cd that sounds great on my system!
> > > I am sure that it would not be so great on quads, they don't rock.
> > > Quads are great for other stuff, but are not good
> > > for everything.
> > > I would like to hear the Orions, but I am not
> > > going to SD, no more family there.
>
> > If you like Little Feat and vinyl, see if you can pick up an MFSL
> > pressing of "Waiting for Columbus". I see them on eBay frequently for
> > under $20. It's live and has the Tower of Power horns, and sounds
> > great to me.
>
> thanks, i already have one
> my favorite live album of all time, an *excellent recording

Mine too. I'm glad you have it.

> other live favorties
> JAmes Brown at the Appolo
> BB King Cook County Jail
> bb kING AT THE regal
> Jefferson Airplane - Bless Its Pointed Little Head
> The first Hot tuna album
> Albert Collins Live album (in Japan?)

I have to confess one of my all-time favorite live LPs is "Johnn
Winter And Live". The recording sucks, the sound is terrible, but it's
Johnney Winter and Rick Derringer and they rock.

Boon[_2_]

May 25th 10, 03:31 PM

On May 23, 10:43�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 23, 10:26�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 1:15�pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On May 22, 9:22�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 6:34�pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 11:15�am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 12:45�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 11:19�am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52�am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47�am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20�pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > �It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > > �I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > > �Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > > �If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > > �That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > > > �Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > > > �You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? �I find that odd.
>
> > > > Arny shouted down
>
> > > �If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> > > it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> > > regard.
>
> > > > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > > > invalidate such opinions
>
> > > �such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > > > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > > > DBT tirade.
>
> > > �Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> > > pretty disgusting levels.
>
> > > �The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> > > high (relative to SS)
> > > distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> > > systems.
> > > He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> > > aren't audibly different
> > > than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> > > and analog as a personal
> > > preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> > > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> > > or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> > > But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> > > I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.
>
> > Well, the evidence would be the fact that your systems always sound
> > terrible, and mine didn't. And if there were combinations that didn't
> > quite work, it was always equipment I had in for review, and not my
> > actual reference systems.
>
> > The Orions probably make your system sound better than ever before,
> > but the simple truth is that you don't have the equipment to bring out
> > the best of the Orions. An old Yamaha preamp, a pair of Quad ESLs set
> > on unstable wooden stools and of course your POS Mitsubishi TT...the
> > evidence is overwhleming that you are unable to assemble a nice-
> > sounding system. Of course you hide behind specs and engineering, but
> > it still lets you down.
>
> Oddly enough, i found it more enjoyable than the
> last system i heard at your house, with the SE tube amps.
> I found that myopic and constrained, there were missing pieces
> to the sound. It was not realistic.
> Scott's sytem was very good, not world class, but enjoyable for
> hours of listening without fatigue. that was with the quads.
>
> not trying to pick a fight, just stating my audio preference.

That's fine...SETs are not for everyone. I eventually tired of them
and went onto something better and less idiosyncratic. I doubt you
would have found any faults when my system consisted of Harbeth 40.1s,
BAT VK-32SE and VK-55SE amplification and my Michell/SME/Koetsu TT.

I would have to disagree with you on Scott's system. While it did get
better over the years, it still lacked any real energy or sense of
dynamics. It just always sounded dull and two-dimensional. I couldn't
listen to music on it for more than a minute or two before my mind
started to wander and I started wondering about what I was going to do
later, after I left his house.

We've talked about this before, when I asked you what I would think of
your system. While I appreciate Vandersteens, I'm definitely less
charitable toward Music Hall TTs, which I think are overshadowed by
Regas. And I went through my vintage amp phase with a Scott 299B and
decided it didn't produce a stable enough image to satisfy. It was
about the qualifiers: "Wow, this sounds pretty good...for an amp
that's older than me." But I would rather have a new integrated from
someone like LFD, Sugden or Naim than a classic amp from Scott,
Fisher, Eico or even Marantz. So chances are that I would find fault
with your system as well.

That said, I still think Scott's system was subpar from the get-go,and
wasn't any better than mid-fi systems you find in the big home
electronic chains (if any still exist).

Clyde Slick

May 25th 10, 06:34 PM

On May 25, 10:31*am, Boon > wrote:
> On May 23, 10:43 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 10:26 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 1:15 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 22, 9:22 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 6:34 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 11:15 am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 12:45 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 11:19 am, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52 am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47 am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20 pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > > > Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > > > If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > > > That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.
>
> > > > > > > > Not really. For instance, Arny was crazy and probably suffered from at
> > > > > > > > least two serious personality disorders. Some people ignored him, some
> > > > > > > > people taunted him but I think most "sane" people wanted him to leave
> > > > > > > > and expressed their desire for him to do that. You see. when there's a
> > > > > > > > crazy person in the room, some sane people ignore them, and others try
> > > > > > > > to do something about it. In other words, there is more than one
> > > > > > > > "sane" response to a crazy person. Your insistence that there's only
> > > > > > > > one is wrong...and just plain dumb.
>
> > > > > > > > > Anyone with sense knows that you don't argue with crazy people. That
> > > > > > > > > makes you crazier than they are. They don't know better, you
> > > > > > > > > supposedly do.
>
> > > > > > > > Unless, of course, a crazy person starts to deface, destroy or damage.
> > > > > > > > Then it's time to step in and take them out.
>
> > > > > > > I like the sound analog and tube audio.
> > > > > > > It's great not being shouted down by some asshole for saying that.
> > > > > > > good riddance to Arny
>
> > > > > > You really felt "shouted down" by Arny on usenet? I find that odd.
>
> > > > > Arny shouted down
>
> > > > If you think anyone can "shout down" anyone on RAO,
> > > > it only tells me you hold the readers of this group in pretty low
> > > > regard.
>
> > > > > anyone with a differing opinion, trying' to
> > > > > invalidate such opinions
>
> > > > such is the nature of most debates on differing opinions.
>
> > > > > by demanding DBT's, so he turned the subject of every discussion not a
> > > > > DBT tirade.
>
> > > > Which then spun into a decade long string of anti-Arny tirade on
> > > > pretty disgusting levels.
>
> > > > The funny part of your argument is this....Arny won't argue that many
> > > > high (relative to SS)
> > > > distortion tube based systems aren't audibly different than most SS
> > > > systems.
> > > > He won't argue that most analog sources and especially vinyl sources
> > > > aren't audibly different
> > > > than digital sources.....so your premise of liking the sound of tubes
> > > > and analog as a personal
> > > > preference isn't something Arny would try to refute with DBTs.
>
> > > > So I find your premise that your preference was invalidated with
> > > > demands of DBTs at odds with the facts.
>
> > > > > When was the last time your eyes were gouged.
> > > > > Better yet, when was the FIRST time.
> > > > > HAve your empty eye sockets lost their virginity yet?
>
> > > > I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself
> > > > or the need to overcome personal bias with DBTs.
> > > > But when some audiophool wants to spout some BS...
> > > > I'm not going to object to calls for some evidence either.
>
> > > Well, the evidence would be the fact that your systems always sound
> > > terrible, and mine didn't. And if there were combinations that didn't
> > > quite work, it was always equipment I had in for review, and not my
> > > actual reference systems.
>
> > > The Orions probably make your system sound better than ever before,
> > > but the simple truth is that you don't have the equipment to bring out
> > > the best of the Orions. An old Yamaha preamp, a pair of Quad ESLs set
> > > on unstable wooden stools and of course your POS Mitsubishi TT...the
> > > evidence is overwhleming that you are unable to assemble a nice-
> > > sounding system. Of course you hide behind specs and engineering, but
> > > it still lets you down.
>
> > Oddly enough, i found it more enjoyable than the
> > last system i heard at your house, with the SE tube amps.
> > I found that myopic and constrained, there were missing pieces
> > to the sound. It was not realistic.
> > Scott's sytem was very good, not world class, but enjoyable for
> > hours of listening without fatigue. that was with the quads.
>
> > not trying to pick a fight, just stating my audio preference.
>
> That's fine...SETs are not for everyone. I eventually tired of them
> and went onto something better and less idiosyncratic. I doubt you
> would have found any faults when my system consisted of Harbeth 40.1s,
> BAT VK-32SE and VK-55SE amplification and my Michell/SME/Koetsu TT.
>
> I would have to disagree with you on Scott's system. While it did get
> better over the years, it still lacked any real energy or sense of
> dynamics. It just always sounded dull and two-dimensional. I couldn't
> listen to music on it for more than a minute or two before my mind
> started to wander and I started wondering about what I was going to do
> later, after I left his house.
>
> We've talked about this before, when I asked you what I would think of
> your system. While I appreciate Vandersteens, I'm definitely less
> charitable toward Music Hall TTs, which I think are overshadowed by
> Regas. And I went through my vintage amp phase with a Scott 299B and
> decided it didn't produce a stable enough image to satisfy. It was
> about the qualifiers: "Wow, this sounds pretty good...for an amp
> that's older than me." But I would rather have a new integrated from
> someone like LFD, Sugden or Naim than a classic amp from Scott,
> Fisher, Eico or even Marantz. So chances are that I would find fault
> with your system as well.
>
> That said, I still think Scott's system was subpar from the get-go,and
> wasn't any better than mid-fi systems you find in the big home
> electronic chains (if any still exist).

the music hall has been replaced, an AR, not the old classic one,
newer,
don't know the model, and with a number of mods. I am ready to mount
a MM cartridge, I can't remember the name, it is from some
company that improves upon the Grado design, still
i hope it does not hum on the AR. I can always use my ortofon.
The digital is from a pc going into a Brigatta tube DAC, which
beats the Jolida cd player

the Scott is in a secondary system, yes, the scott's don't image so
well,
and the bass, ever present, is not so distinct, but it provides some
really pleasant music in my bedroom

scott's system as i heard it was a lot better than mid fi, but that
was due to the quads.

Boon[_2_]

May 25th 10, 09:39 PM

On May 25, 12:34*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On May 25, 10:31*am, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > On May 23, 10:43 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 10:26 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 1:15 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 22, 9:22 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 22, 6:34 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 22, 11:15 am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 22, 12:45 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 11:19 am, Bret L > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:52 am, Boon > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 9:47 am, ScottW > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 9:20 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 5:20 pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be less entertaining here, that's for sure.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you and Scott were less autistic, you guys would still be the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dumbest ones here.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if Marc's "special needs" kid knows how he likes to use
> > > > > > > > > > > > false claims of disability as an insult?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me apologize for Marc to any autistic persons or parents/relatives
> > > > > > > > > > > > of an autistic person.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Phillips really doesn't know what a crass ass he is..
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Once again YOUR disability has let you down. My problem isn't that you
> > > > > > > > > > > and Bret are autistic. It's that you two fail to admit it, and
> > > > > > > > > > > perfectly reasonable people get sucked into arguments with you without
> > > > > > > > > > > being properly informed about your condition. That's very dishonest.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Wow...you ****ed up again, Scott. Amazing.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Who's really crazy, us or you?
>
> > > > > > > > > Neither.
>
> > > > > > > > > > If you really were sane and really believed either or both of us
> > > > > > > > > > insane, you'd simply killfile us and move on.
>
> > > > > > > > > I don't think either of you are insane. I think you are two autistic
> > > > > > > > > people who, like many other autistic people, are attracted to Usenet
> > > > > > > > > because you don't have to admit you're autistic to participate. In
> > > > > > > > > real life, most people can talk to autistic people and figure out
> > > > > > > > > pretty quickly that something's amiss. For instance, I met Scott in
> > > > > > > > > person a few times, and he has this way of pontificating about some
> > > > > > > > > arcane point while looking off into space as if he forgets that other
> > > > > > > > > people are around. he also has a problem with eye contact, which is
> > > > > > > > > common among people with Aspergers. And whenever Art and I would be
> > > > > > > > > making jokes and laughing, Scott would merely sit there, stone-faced.
>
> > > > > > > > > > That's how sane people deal with insane people on Usenet.