Nobody Wants Mono

[Bret L]

In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
mono market today.

Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.


This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
color level down and you had black and white.

[Boon[_2_]]

On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
> *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> mono market today.
>
> *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> color level down and you had black and white.

First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 26, 9:34*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> > mono market today.
>
> > *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> > *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> > movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> > didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> > only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> > color level down and you had black and white.
>
> First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
> market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.

Subject altered to reflect reality.

[Boon[_2_]]

On Apr 26, 9:35*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:34*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> > > mono market today.
>
> > > *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> > > *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> > > movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> > > didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> > > only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> > > color level down and you had black and white.
>
> > First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
> > market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.
>
> Subject altered to reflect reality.

First you say "nobody wants Bratzi." Then you say, uh...okay, you win.
Nobody it is.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 26, 9:37*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:35*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 9:34*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > > *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> > > > mono market today.
>
> > > > *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> > > > *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> > > > movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> > > > didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> > > > only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> > > > color level down and you had black and white.
>
> > > First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
> > > market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.
>
> > Subject altered to reflect reality.
>
> First you say "nobody wants Bratzi." Then you say, uh...okay, you win.
> Nobody it is.

Marilyn Monroe might but we can't ask her because she's dead. ((Hm. So
she can't say "no". Maybe that's why she's the only woman Bratzi's
ever had. Shhhh!))

[Bret L]

On Apr 26, 9:34*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> > mono market today.
>
> > *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> > *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> > movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> > didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> > only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> > color level down and you had black and white.
>
> First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
> market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.

Any reasonable person would understand that "nobody" in this instance
means that the percentage of would be buyers of mono is so low that
supplying it would be generally cost ineffective. Yes, there is
SOMEBODY that wants the mono, but most of them want the OLD vinyl in
the first place. A hundred people out of a couple million is not an
effective market.

Some people would like to have shellac 78s, wide groove, to play on
Victrolas, some people would like cylinders, some would like 8 tracks,
some 4 track or broadcast cart, some would really go for open reel.

Not enough.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 27, 12:35*am, Bret L > wrote:

Subject changed to reflect reality.

You should do something more useful with your life, Bratzi, like
masturbate over pictures of a dead ditzy blonde. LOL!

[Boon[_2_]]

On Apr 27, 12:35*am, Bret L > wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:34*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 26, 8:34*pm, Bret L > wrote:
>
> > > *In England especially there is a monophile cult but there is no mass
> > > mono market today.
>
> > > *Buyers would almost all rather have fake stereo than real mono.
>
> > > *This is an interesting phenomenon. It is related to colorization of
> > > movies, which purists decried. Old time movie fans mostly really
> > > didn't care. On the old TV sets-which was how you watched old movies,
> > > only NYC and SFO had cinemas running old films-you just turned the
> > > color level down and you had black and white.
>
> > First you say "nobody" wants mono. Then you say there is "no mass
> > market today." Those statements are contradictory. Try again.
>
> *Any reasonable person would understand that "nobody" in this instance
> means that the percentage of would be buyers of mono is so low that
> supplying it would be generally cost ineffective.

No, NOBODY means NOT A SINGLE PERSON. Learn some English.

Yes, there is
> SOMEBODY that wants the mono, but most of them want the OLD vinyl in
> the first place. A hundred people out of a couple million is not an
> effective market.

A lot more than a hundred mono cartridges have been sold over the last
couple of years, so again you're off.

>
> *Some people would like to have shellac 78s, wide groove, to play on
> Victrolas, some people would like cylinders, some would like 8 tracks,
> some 4 track or broadcast cart, some would really go for open reel.
>
> *Not enough.

In your little cave you have NO idea what's really going on in the
audio world. Open reel, for instance, is undergoing a revival.

[Bret L]

>
> > SOMEBODY that wants the mono, but most of them want the OLD vinyl in
> > the first place. A hundred people out of a couple million is not an
> > effective market.
>
> A lot more than a hundred mono cartridges have been sold over the last
> couple of years, so again you're off.
>

Yes, the Japanese are buying them. To play old vinyl with.

>
>
> > *Some people would like to have shellac 78s, wide groove, to play on
> > Victrolas, some people would like cylinders, some would like 8 tracks,
> > some 4 track or broadcast cart, some would really go for open reel.
>
> > *Not enough.
>
> In your little cave you have NO idea what's really going on in the
> audio world. Open reel, for instance, is undergoing a revival.

Big revival. ONE company offers quarter inch tape at insane plus
prices, a couple of places refurb mediocre consumo decks at equally
insane prices. Sorry. When half a dozen places offer tapes and the
value of REAL tape machines starts going up then I'll say it's a
revival.

[Boon[_2_]]

On Apr 27, 1:31*pm, Bret L > wrote:
> > > SOMEBODY that wants the mono, but most of them want the OLD vinyl in
> > > the first place. A hundred people out of a couple million is not an
> > > effective market.
>
> > A lot more than a hundred mono cartridges have been sold over the last
> > couple of years, so again you're off.
>
> *Yes, the Japanese are buying them. To play old vinyl with.
>
>
>
> > > *Some people would like to have shellac 78s, wide groove, to play on
> > > Victrolas, some people would like cylinders, some would like 8 tracks,
> > > some 4 track or broadcast cart, some would really go for open reel.
>
> > > *Not enough.
>
> > In your little cave you have NO idea what's really going on in the
> > audio world. Open reel, for instance, is undergoing a revival.
>
> *Big revival. ONE company offers quarter inch tape at insane plus
> prices, a couple of places refurb mediocre consumo decks at equally
> insane prices. *Sorry. When half a dozen places offer tapes and the
> value of REAL tape machines starts going up then I'll say it's a
> revival.

Again, you have no idea what's going on in the trenches. I have a
friend who refurbishes RTR decks and he says the demand has definitely
spiked in the last two years. Peruse any decent audio discussion group
and you'll find a lot of activity in RTR threads. I even went to a
hifi store on Saturday and they had an RTR deck in the front window.
He said he put it there because his customers are starting to ask
about it.

[Bret L]

On Apr 27, 1:48*pm, Boon > wrote:


>
> Again, you have no idea what's going on in the trenches. I have a
> friend who refurbishes RTR decks and he says the demand has definitely
> spiked in the last two years. Peruse any decent audio discussion group
> and you'll find a lot of activity in RTR threads. I even went to a
> hifi store on Saturday and they had an RTR deck in the front window.
> He said he put it there because his customers are starting to ask
> about it.

The one place I know of buys 70s Japanese consumer decks for a couple
hundred dollars and "remanufactures" them for a five figure price.
They are not interested in Studer or Ampex machines, which are "the
real deal". Consumer tape machines can not do any better than vinyl,
it isn't untill you get to 1/2" two track at 15 ips or so you get into
the real realm of superior fidelity.

Aside from the ludicrous "Tape Project" who is doing new tape
releases?

[Boon[_2_]]

On Apr 27, 6:13*pm, Bret L > wrote:
> On Apr 27, 1:48*pm, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Again, you have no idea what's going on in the trenches. I have a
> > friend who refurbishes RTR decks and he says the demand has definitely
> > spiked in the last two years. Peruse any decent audio discussion group
> > and you'll find a lot of activity in RTR threads. I even went to a
> > hifi store on Saturday and they had an RTR deck in the front window.
> > He said he put it there because his customers are starting to ask
> > about it.
>
> *The one place I know of buys 70s Japanese consumer decks for a couple
> hundred dollars and "remanufactures" them for a five figure price.

Another place I know tuned up my TEAC reel-to-reel for $25.

> They are not interested in Studer or Ampex machines, which are "the
> real deal". Consumer tape machines can not do any better than vinyl,
> it isn't untill you get to 1/2" two track at 15 ips or so you get into
> the real realm of superior fidelity.
>
> *Aside from the ludicrous "Tape Project" who is doing new tape
> releases?

The Tape Project is just the beginning. The demand is there.