Re: Uillean?

[Skittles]

> >How do you pronounce "Uillean"?
> >
> >AY-lean?
>
> oo-lee-an

No, completely wrong I'm afraid. Take it from an Irishman: it's "ill-an",
with the stress on the first syllable.

[Don Pearce]

On 13 Sep 2003 08:02:34 -0500, "Skittles" > wrote:

>> >How do you pronounce "Uillean"?
>> >
>> >AY-lean?
>>
>> oo-lee-an
>
>No, completely wrong I'm afraid. Take it from an Irishman: it's "ill-an",
>with the stress on the first syllable.
>
I'll bow to that.

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"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:09:13 +0100, Don Pearce >
> wrote:
>
> >On 13 Sep 2003 08:02:34 -0500, "Skittles" > wrote:
> >
> >>> >How do you pronounce "Uillean"?
> >>> >
> >>> >AY-lean?
> >>>
> >>> oo-lee-an
> >>
> >>No, completely wrong I'm afraid. Take it from an Irishman: it's
"ill-an",
> >>with the stress on the first syllable.
> >>
> >I'll bow to that.
> >
> >d
> >
> In fact, Webster gives:
>
> Main Entry: uil·leann pipes
> Pronunciation: 'i-l&n-
> Function: noun plural
> Usage: often capitalized
> Etymology: uilleann from Irish, genitive singular of uillinn elbow,
> from Old Irish uilen; akin to Old English eln ell -- more at ELL
> Date: 1906
> : an Irish bagpipe with air supplied by a bellows held under and
> worked by the elbow
>
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[Skittles]

> >>Take it from an Irishman: it's "ill-an",
> >>with the stress on the first syllable.
>
> In fact, Webster gives:
>
> Main Entry: uil·leann pipes
> Pronunciation: 'i-l&n-

Well, yeah, the "ah" sound in the second syllable is so subtle as to be
almost indetectible... and it's a short "n" too.

[Don Pearce]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:18:58 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>Don Pearce > wrote in
:
>
>> On 13 Sep 2003 12:02:13 -0500, "Skittles" > wrote:
>>
>>>> >>Take it from an Irishman: it's "ill-an",
>>>> >>with the stress on the first syllable.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, Webster gives:
>>>>
>>>> Main Entry: uil·leann pipes
>>>> Pronunciation: 'i-l&n-
>>>
>>>Well, yeah, the "ah" sound in the second syllable is so subtle as to be
>>>almost indetectible... and it's a short "n" too.
>>>
>> It isn't even an "ah" sound. Just pull the middle out of fish'n'chips
>> and you have it.
>
>So Uillean rhymes with chillin'

No - more like chill'n - lose the "i". Pronounce it ill'n.

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[Chakaal The Indifferent]

In article >,
Skittles > wrote:
>> >>Take it from an Irishman: it's "ill-an",
>> >>with the stress on the first syllable.
>>
>> In fact, Webster gives:
>>
>> Main Entry: uil·leann pipes
>> Pronunciation: 'i-l&n-
>
>Well, yeah, the "ah" sound in the second syllable is so subtle as to be
>almost indetectible... and it's a short "n" too.
>
My personal and facetious impresion of Irish pronunciation is that it's said
exactly as written but only if you're very drunk...

For which irreverent commentary my fiddle teacher will likely string me up
by my own 'E' string at my next lesson.

I will go hide now.

chak

[Don Pearce]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:22:54 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>Don Pearce > wrote in
:
>
>>>So Uillean rhymes with chillin'
>>
>> No - more like chill'n - lose the "i". Pronounce it ill'n.
>
>When has anyone EVER pronounced the trailing 'I' in chillin?

I did last Thursday.

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[dt king]

"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:22:54 GMT, Carey Carlan >
> wrote:
>
> >Don Pearce > wrote in
> :
> >
> >>>So Uillean rhymes with chillin'
> >>
> >> No - more like chill'n - lose the "i". Pronounce it ill'n.
> >
> >When has anyone EVER pronounced the trailing 'I' in chillin?
>
> I did last Thursday.

Also, I believe that's how George W. Bush pronounces it. Only, for him,
it's stuff having to do with that country way down at the bottom of South
America.

dtk

[Don Pearce]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:36:47 GMT, "dt king" >
wrote:

>"Don Pearce" > wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:22:54 GMT, Carey Carlan >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Don Pearce > wrote in
>> :
>> >
>> >>>So Uillean rhymes with chillin'
>> >>
>> >> No - more like chill'n - lose the "i". Pronounce it ill'n.
>> >
>> >When has anyone EVER pronounced the trailing 'I' in chillin?
>>
>> I did last Thursday.
>
>Also, I believe that's how George W. Bush pronounces it. Only, for him,
>it's stuff having to do with that country way down at the bottom of South
>America.
>
>dtk

Never knew there was a Tierra del Fuego branch of the Bush family!
Live and learn.

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[Carey Carlan]

Don Pearce > wrote in
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> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:22:54 GMT, Carey Carlan >
> wrote:
>>When has anyone EVER pronounced the trailing 'I' in chillin?
>
> I did last Thursday.
>
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Pardon me. You're in the UK. I'm from the southern US. On our side of
the pond, "chillin" belongs to the rap (not RAP) dialect and has no vowels.

[Don Pearce]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:44:25 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>Don Pearce > wrote in
:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:22:54 GMT, Carey Carlan >
>> wrote:
>>>When has anyone EVER pronounced the trailing 'I' in chillin?
>>
>> I did last Thursday.
>>
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>Pardon me. You're in the UK. I'm from the southern US. On our side of
>the pond, "chillin" belongs to the rap (not RAP) dialect and has no vowels.

Well, there we go. Being from the Home Counties, my vowels are all
crystal clear. Comes from eating All Bran.

d

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> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland (pronounced "MAIR-lan")

Ain't Bahlmor in Mairlan? ;>)

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