Re: Is Al Marcy a douche-ass?

[Ian Iveson]

Looked in an American dictionary and I'm still non the
wiser.

AFAIK, solitary birds sing, and social birds squabble. Can't
remember what in all that blether brought that to mind.

And I'm sure

"Nobody asks me if there is anything that
"can be done to improve Life on Earth ;)"

I asked Al exactly this, some long time since, but he
wouldn't be drawn on the matter.

Ian

[Watt? Me worry?]

On Apr 5, 9:35*am, "Ian Iveson" >
wrote:

> /snip
>
> "Nobody asks me if there is anything that
> "can be done to improve Life on Earth ;)"
>
> I asked Al exactly this, some long time since, but he
> wouldn't be drawn on the matter.
>
> Ian


Hi RATs!

To improve life on Earth, simply quit comparing it to life in your
mind. The mind cheats ;)

Happy Ears!
Al

[Ian Iveson]

Al wrote:

>Hi RATs!

Hi Al!

>> "Nobody asks me if there is anything that
>> "can be done to improve Life on Earth ;)"
>>
>> I asked Al exactly this, some long time since, but he
>> wouldn't be drawn on the matter.

> To improve life on Earth, simply quit comparing it to life
> in your
> mind. The mind cheats ;)

Which comes quite close to not being drawn on the matter, in
my drawing book.

I believe my mind is always clear and faithful. It's the
world that's murky and treacherous. But have it your way.
What's the difference, and how could it be tested? Maybe
Arny could help.

Anyway, isn't all thought the process of comparing life in
mind to life on earth? You're on a self-denial trip, right?
Open your eyes, shut your mind and then, when nobody's
looking, you see the world how it really is. Some escape
from that hole, some don't. AFAIK nobody's found a keyhole
on the outside.

Ian

[Patrick Turner]

On Apr 6, 3:26*am, "Ian Iveson" >
wrote:
> Al wrote:
> >Hi RATs!
>
> Hi Al!
>
> >> "Nobody asks me if there is anything that
> >> "can be done to improve Life on Earth ;)"
>
> >> I asked Al exactly this, some long time since, but he
> >> wouldn't be drawn on the matter.
> > To improve life on Earth, simply quit comparing it to life
> > in your
> > mind. The mind cheats ;)
>
> Which comes quite close to not being drawn on the matter, in
> my drawing book.
>
> I believe my mind is always clear and faithful. It's the
> world that's murky and treacherous.

But you and I are part of the world which you say is treacherous and
murky.
So because you and I are part of the world does that not make us also
treacherous and murky?

Anyway, there ain't no way none of us can change the world to a better
place which usually means changing what other people do which makes it
so appalling. Maybe if we all just commit suicide then the world can
progress without us without us to be considered or to get in the way.
Some muslims do this in crowded steet markets and on trains and buses.
Its not a popular solution to the world's problems.

But as the world becomes more crowded, surely you gotta expect more
**** to happen.

Al is quite a cool dude afaiac. He doesn't take himself too seriously
which is a definite virtue in any man, woman or animal.

But have it your way.
> What's the difference, and how could it be tested? Maybe
> Arny could help.
>
> Anyway, isn't all thought the process of comparing life in
> mind to life on earth? You're on a self-denial trip, right?
> Open your eyes, shut your mind and then, when nobody's
> looking, you see the world how it really is. Some escape
> from that hole, some don't. AFAIK nobody's found a keyhole
> on the outside.

Hmm, you do speak in such riddles.

One man's life in his mind is but a grain of sand upon a beach.

Meanwhile, perhaps dotted all around the known universe there is life
that is incomprehensible were we ever to be exposed to its details.

What fascinates me is that nothing can travel faster than the speed of
light.
Well, that's been a general idea amoung leading minds for a long time.

But if there is some overall God within or outside the universe, would
not the knowledge of what is happening anywhere need to be known by
such supreme being? And of course there must be something which put
everything we are aware of or not aware of in place by means of
evolution or direct creation. I would think such Grande Awareness by a
mind slightly more better than yours would need knowldge and info to
travel rather a lot faster than the limitation imposed by the damn
speed of light.

While much more complex things than ourselves or our puny planet exist
to be wondered about if we wee only to know such things, we have the
real world to live in for a very brief time.

There isn't time for me to be consciously treacherous or murky' and
about the best I can do is act with virtue in mind rather than vice
regardless of my own silly short sighted beliefs.
Just imagine if we discover never ending radio signals from ETI from
some corner of space heading our way. We may not reply due to speed of
light but we might learn hugely, and learning is that horrible
activity so many hate here on Earth.
Then again we may learn **** all.

Meanwhile, ET ppl on the nearest possible planets have just begun to
pick up our TV signals that escaped our solar system about 60 years
ago. I regret the existance of such a monumentally trashy stream of
information.
I guess by the time earthly TV signals have travelled 60 light years
that their intensity is so utterly feeble that their level is 1,000 dB
below the noise of the gear the ET are using to listen to anyone out
there.

Somehow a part of my mind suspects that some of the universe we know
or many we don't know may be all linked up consciously in some amazing
way with communication maybe faster than billions of times the speed
of light.

The more we fiddle around looking for new particles in big
accelorators the more we learn we know virtually **** all.

Many have the stupidity to deny anything like a God exists. No need to
love a God, He isn't there. Well, methinks ideas people have about God
having human characteristics and rather paternal ones at that are all
rather short sighted.
God is a people invented idea. Ppl's minds invents what takes their
fancy along the "whatever" principle. Maybe by another 10,000 years
our species may develop some idea about what's really out there but at
present all descriptions of God fail to lead me to a church, mosque,
or synagog.

Young folks think they know everything and they swing their world
around them like swinging a cat by the tail.
Trouble is the cat has its paws out and can catch their nose on the
way around.......

A young man tries to build a house and soon he realises that its best
not to hit your thumb with the hammer.
Pain teaches us pain is painful.

Patrick Turner.



>
> Ian