Thank you Richard. That's what I mean. Is there any software to test the QUALITY of one's CD audio burn?

[Albie]

..

[Geoff]

Albie wrote:
> .

The whole post in the Subject - that's a new one !

Yes, Plextools (and Pro) but works only with Plextor drives.

However this can only test the compound process of writing and subsequently
reading. For a definitive write-quality test you need a specialised
diagnostic test equipment costing thousands.

Most people just don't "sweat it" unless they have an actual problem.

geoff

[David Nebenzahl]

On 1/18/2010 12:52 PM geoff spake thus:

> Albie wrote:
>
>> .
>
> The whole post in the Subject - that's a new one !
>
> Yes, Plextools (and Pro) but works only with Plextor drives.
>
> However this can only test the compound process of writing and subsequently
> reading. For a definitive write-quality test you need a specialised
> diagnostic test equipment costing thousands.
>
> Most people just don't "sweat it" unless they have an actual problem.

Yes. I'm curious why all the angst about audio CD quality: are you going
into the replication business?


--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.

- a Usenet "apology"

[Albie]

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:02:24 -0800, David Nebenzahl
> wrote:

>On 1/18/2010 12:52 PM geoff spake thus:
>
>> Albie wrote:
> >
>>> .
>>
>> The whole post in the Subject - that's a new one !
>>
>> Yes, Plextools (and Pro) but works only with Plextor drives.
>>
>> However this can only test the compound process of writing and subsequently
>> reading. For a definitive write-quality test you need a specialised
>> diagnostic test equipment costing thousands.
>>
>> Most people just don't "sweat it" unless they have an actual problem.
>
>Yes. I'm curious why all the angst about audio CD quality: are you going
>into the replication business?

Of course not. But when I am listening to music on my stereo system,
I can do without the slow, static 'pops' that can occur for me when
writing at a speed greater than 4x. The problem occurs during loud
passages or when a soprano goes into the top of her range.

The threads I'm receiving are now making me believe I may just need a
higher quality (more expensive) CD player. 8-( I'll start checking
into this. I would like a carousel if possible for convenience in
playing multi-disk operas. (I always used Taiyo Juden blanks, and I
have fiddled with every known make of burner.)

Albie

[Geoff]

Albie wrote:

> Of course not. But when I am listening to music on my stereo system,
> I can do without the slow, static 'pops' that can occur for me when
> writing at a speed greater than 4x. The problem occurs during loud
> passages or when a soprano goes into the top of her range.
>
> The threads I'm receiving are now making me believe I may just need a
> higher quality (more expensive) CD player. 8-( I'll start checking
> into this. I would like a carousel if possible for convenience in
> playing multi-disk operas. (I always used Taiyo Juden blanks, and I
> have fiddled with every known make of burner.)


The audio problems you describe have can have NOTHING to do with quality of
burn, error rate, or burn speed. Audio level or pitch has NO CORRELATION
whatsoever with the digital data quality.

Experiment with other media. Write in DAO mode, with Buffer Under-run
protection turned Off. And kill AV and other unnecessary apps while burning.
..
Alternatively simply get another burner, almost any burner except the one
you have, and you should be able to write at the same or higher speed
reliably. I wouldn't go over 16x though. Your player may also be a factor.

Also try other burning software - what you have sounds like digital overload
maybe due to some gain being applied in the burning software, or your player
is broken, or it objects to difficult (but otherwise valid) high level audio
signals.

geoff

[Mr.T]

"Albie" > wrote in message
...
> >Yes. I'm curious why all the angst about audio CD quality: are you going
> >into the replication business?
>
> Of course not. But when I am listening to music on my stereo system,
> I can do without the slow, static 'pops' that can occur for me when
> writing at a speed greater than 4x. The problem occurs during loud
> passages or when a soprano goes into the top of her range.

Get a new drive then, and/or buy some decent disks.


> The threads I'm receiving are now making me believe I may just need a
> higher quality (more expensive) CD player.


Might be the problem too. Even new cheap players will cope with burmed
disks, how much you pay should depend on the quality of the rest of your
system


> 8-( I'll start checking
> into this. I would like a carousel if possible for convenience in
> playing multi-disk operas.


Most people have stopped using those horrible things ages ago, and started
using a computer or hard drive media player instead. You will no longer have
problems with CDR's then either! And instant access to hundreds of hours of
music is a bonus.


>(I always used Taiyo Juden blanks, and I
> have fiddled with every known make of burner.)

But how long ago, if you still need to burn at 4x? You must have been doing
something wrong, or been *very* unlucky, in any case. I've been burning
fault free CD's at 16x or more, for over a decade. And not just with
Plextor's either :-)

MrT.

[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

geoff wrote:

[quoting OP]

>> Of course not. But when I am listening to music on my stereo system,
>> I can do without the slow, static 'pops' that can occur for me when
>> writing at a speed greater than 4x. The problem occurs during loud
>> passages or when a soprano goes into the top of her range.

Zero correlation to cd-burn process. Correlation to clipping is 0.99999999!

Please describe your playback equipment. The simplest explanation is that
you are clipping your poweramplifier. Less simple explanations are possible,
including as Geoff suggested digital overload in the preparation of the CD.
Such will as an example be probable for CD's made from mp3 files because of
the overshoot inherent in mp3 encode and decode.

> geoff

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Doug Freyburger]

Peter Larsen wrote:
> geoff wrote:
>
>>> Of course not. But when I am listening to music on my stereo system,
>>> I can do without the slow, static 'pops' that can occur for me when
>>> writing at a speed greater than 4x. The problem occurs during loud
>>> passages or when a soprano goes into the top of her range.
>
> Zero correlation to cd-burn process. Correlation to clipping is 0.99999999!

If the audio was ripped from a CD try keeping the ripped MP3 for a
while. When you here noise on a disk that you burned it's time to
listen to the MP3 played directly on your PC. At that point it's easy
to figure out where the problem occured.