Exactly how crooked is the head crook of the UN's IntergovernmentalPanel of Climate Crooks, Dr Rajendra Pachauri?

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

Exactly how crooked is the head crook of the UN's Intergovernmental
Panel of Climate Crooks, Dr Rajendra Pachauri?

Here is just the tip of the iceberg in Pachauri's insider trading:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals-of-UN-climate-change-guru-Dr-Rajendra-Pachauri.html
If this was a Republican businessman or politician with his snout so
flagrantly in the trough, far from the warmieloon scum, who will now
defend Pachauri's crimes, defending the
Republican, they would be screeching for the authorities to jail him.
And the authorities would jail him.

Apparently there's one standard of behaviour for decent people and
quite another, much more lax standard for the leaders of the
warmieloons when they enrich themselves with insider trading as
Pachauri and Gore do so blatantly.

Andre Jute
Boy, have I had a gutful of global warmie hypocrisy

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
share their outrage at this criminal behaviour with us.

On Dec 21, 11:52*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
> Exactly how crooked is the head crook of the UN's Intergovernmental
> Panel of Climate Crooks, Dr Rajendra Pachauri?
>
> Here is just the tip of the iceberg in Pachauri's insider trading:
> *http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals....
> *If this was a Republican businessman or politician with his snout so
> flagrantly in the trough, far from the warmieloon scum, who will now
> defend Pachauri's crimes, defending the
> Republican, they would be screeching for the authorities to jail him.
> And the authorities would jail him.
>
> Apparently there's one standard of behaviour for decent people and
> quite another, much more lax standard for the leaders of the
> warmieloons when they enrich themselves with insider trading as
> Pachauri and Gore do so blatantly.
>
> Andre Jute
> Boy, have I had a gutful of global warmie hypocrisy

[Peter Wieck]

On Dec 21, 6:55*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
> We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to

You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
life. Elsewhere, please.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Voice of Reason]

On Dec 21, 8:14*pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
> On Dec 21, 6:55*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>
> > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
>
> You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
> here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
> here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
> life. Elsewhere, please.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA

Andre may have merely been suffering from insomnia and chosen to make
the best of an unfortunate situation by sharing his thoughts with us/
opening the debate to a larger group of people during the wee hours of
the morning. Unless you have evidence to prove this man has no friends
or that he suffers from a pathological condition, I think it would be
wise for you to avoid such personal attacks. That is, of course,
unless you have nothing better to do with your time than attack a man
for speaking his mind in a civilized manner.

Considering all of the controversy surrounding the issues that are of
interest to Andre, I find it odd that you are more interested in
keeping tabs on his sleeping patterns and social contacts than the
matters he wishes to discuss.

[Patrick Turner]

On Dec 22, 5:28*pm, Voice of Reason >
wrote:
> On Dec 21, 8:14*pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 21, 6:55*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>
> > > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
>
> > You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
> > here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
> > here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
> > life. Elsewhere, please.
>
> > Peter Wieck
> > Melrose Park, PA
>
> Andre may have merely been suffering from insomnia and chosen to make
> the best of an unfortunate situation by sharing his thoughts with us/
> opening the debate to a larger group of people during the wee hours of
> the morning. Unless you have evidence to prove this man has no friends
> or that he suffers from a pathological condition, I think it would be
> wise for you to avoid such personal attacks. That is, of course,
> unless you have nothing better to do with your time than attack a man
> for speaking his mind in a civilized manner.
>
> Considering all of the controversy surrounding the issues that are of
> interest to Andre, I find it odd that you are more interested in
> keeping tabs on his sleeping patterns and social contacts than the
> matters he wishes to discuss.

I like to think the world of RAT is a free speach world. And why would
some ppl here not have a keen interest in global warming?

After all, tube amps like Stanley Steamer motor cars are not exactly
greenhouse friendly.

There would be many pigs at the Trough Of Corruption within the UN.

But Andre's angst about warped warmies isn't going to make greenhouse
warming go away. Here we are continuring to get mid summer temps and
its still springtime, and I bet we have a record hot summer and autumn
and winter especially as the El-ninio effect kicks in. So another
drought looms, with fly blown dead cattle and sheep.

Anyone in the northern hemisphere could be forgiven to think its
cooling down if one looks at the snow dumps right now.
All that coldness that normally is confined to the poles has spread
wide. Meanwhile ice melting continues world wide.

My gripe about Copenhagen is that the big develped nation bullies
tried to push China into signing a deal which would send China broke.
About 200million chinese operate the export goods industries where
stuff is manufactured for costs that are -26dB lower than in the US.
Yet the US expects china to cut its emissions big time, but that would
mean building many nuclear power stations straightaway, and from what
I can see, China ain't got the cash for such a huge sudden change. The
US has the cash though, so the US should simply DONATE 50 nuke power
stations free of charge so production can continue at the prices US
people like to pay, but without the CO2 pollution, and all the smoke
clogging air over Chinese cities and floating long distance on winds.
The money can be easily raised by a Goods and Services Tax which means
everyone in the US pays for the betterment of power generation in
developing nations like China.
Trouble is the West would suspect too much world political power would
then transfer to China; Energy superiority = national superiority.
So having the US helping people out those who cause us so much concern
about CO2 is not likely to ever happen, and worker life conditions in
developing nations will remain poor. I can easily see why China has a
**** You Too policy over greenhouse. Meanwhile a new coal fired power
station is opened each week in China. They will continue with less
grand and peicemeal developments and progress, "first get rich, then
clean up mess", except that probably the mess will never be cleaned
up.

There is now a volcano on the Philipines that looks like it might make
a major eruption soon. Let us hope its a bigger blow than Pinatubo and
dumps plenty of SO2 and ash and ****e up high which will reduce the
heating we are seeing temporarily.

If I had the money I'd put a pile of solar panels on my roof. But I
ain't got the ****in money.

Patrick Turner

[Peter Wieck]

On Dec 22, 1:28*am, Voice of Reason >
wrote:
> On Dec 21, 8:14*pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 21, 6:55*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>
> > > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
>
> > You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
> > here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
> > here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
> > life. Elsewhere, please.
>
> > Peter Wieck
> > Melrose Park, PA
>
> Andre may have merely been suffering

He is all of that, certainly. And insufferable inasmuch as he wishes
to visit his 'insomnia' on these venues such that they have largely
become worthless for their intended purpose. Further he repeats
without fact and refutes without proof - all of the bully without
having earned the pulpit. There is no actual interest or concern
anywhere there and years of his blathering have proven that beyond any
doubt reasonable or otherwise. All that remains of Andre is his
colossal ego without the wherewithal to support it.

Put simply, there are venues just for his puling and where he will
find like-minded individuals willing to play his game. Were he to take
himself there I would have no interest in him whatsoever. That he does
not and that he chooses to pollute without thought or concern is the
sum total of my interest in him.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Lord Valve]

Voice of Reason wrote:

> On Dec 21, 8:14 pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 6:55 pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
> >
> > > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
> >
> > You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
> > here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
> > here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
> > life. Elsewhere, please.
> >
> > Peter Wieck
> > Melrose Park, PA
>
> Andre may have merely been suffering from insomnia and chosen to make
> the best of an unfortunate situation by sharing his thoughts with us/
> opening the debate to a larger group of people during the wee hours of
> the morning. Unless you have evidence to prove this man has no friends
> or that he suffers from a pathological condition, I think it would be
> wise for you to avoid such personal attacks. That is, of course,
> unless you have nothing better to do with your time than attack a man
> for speaking his mind in a civilized manner.
>
> Considering all of the controversy surrounding the issues that are of
> interest to Andre, I find it odd that you are more interested in
> keeping tabs on his sleeping patterns and social contacts than the
> matters he wishes to discuss.

Wieck's an asshole, a walkin'-talkin' sphincter of legendary proportion.

Keep readin' him, you'll see.

LV

[Patrick Turner]

On Dec 22, 7:31*pm, flipper > wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:57:57 -0800 (PST), Patrick Turner
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Dec 22, 5:28*pm, Voice of Reason >
> >wrote:
> >> On Dec 21, 8:14*pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
>
> >> > On Dec 21, 6:55*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>
> >> > > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
>
> >> > You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
> >> > here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
> >> > here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
> >> > life. Elsewhere, please.
>
> >> > Peter Wieck
> >> > Melrose Park, PA
>
> >> Andre may have merely been suffering from insomnia and chosen to make
> >> the best of an unfortunate situation by sharing his thoughts with us/
> >> opening the debate to a larger group of people during the wee hours of
> >> the morning. Unless you have evidence to prove this man has no friends
> >> or that he suffers from a pathological condition, I think it would be
> >> wise for you to avoid such personal attacks. That is, of course,
> >> unless you have nothing better to do with your time than attack a man
> >> for speaking his mind in a civilized manner.
>
> >> Considering all of the controversy surrounding the issues that are of
> >> interest to Andre, I find it odd that you are more interested in
> >> keeping tabs on his sleeping patterns and social contacts than the
> >> matters he wishes to discuss.
>
> >I like to think the world of RAT is a free speach world. And why would
> >some ppl here not have a keen interest in global warming?
>
> >After all, tube amps like Stanley Steamer motor cars are not exactly
> >greenhouse friendly.
>
> >There would be many pigs at the Trough Of Corruption within the UN.
>
> >But Andre's angst about warped warmies isn't going to make greenhouse
> >warming go away.
>
> You don't get it, Pat. There is NO AGW 'theory', because they never
> bothered to even make falisfiable predictions, much less 'pass' any,
> and there are NO reliable temperature records to make the 'global
> warming' claims because all those graphs and numbers you see plastered
> all over the place come out of cherry picked, upside down, deleted,
> missing, hacked, mashed, and cooked fraudulent data. And, on top of
> that, there has been NO 'global warming' for the last decade.

I would fight to defend your right to disagree with me.

Perhaps you can consider that there is overwhelming data now on
melting ice and changing distributions of flora and fauna due to
global warming.

For many years the cigarette companies didn't want to own up to the
fact that smoking kills ppl.


>
> > Here we are continuring to get mid summer temps and
> >its still springtime, and I bet we have a record hot summer and autumn
> >and winter especially as the El-ninio effect kicks in. So another
> >drought looms, with fly blown dead cattle and sheep.
>
> >Anyone in the northern hemisphere could be forgiven to think its
> >cooling down if one looks at the snow dumps right now.
> >All that coldness that normally is confined to the poles has spread
> >wide. Meanwhile ice melting continues world wide.
>
> >My gripe about Copenhagen is that the big develped nation bullies
> >tried to push China into signing a deal which would send China broke.
> >About 200million chinese operate the export goods industries where
> >stuff is manufactured for costs that are -26dB lower than in the US.
>
> Primarily because China manipulates the exchange rate, screwing
> everyone.
>
> >Yet the US expects china to cut its emissions big time, but that would
> >mean building many nuclear power stations straightaway, and from what
> >I can see, China ain't got the cash for such a huge sudden change.
>
> Just a 450 billion BOP surplus is all.
>
> > The
> >US has the cash though, so the US should simply DONATE 50 nuke power
> >stations free of charge so production can continue at the prices US
> >people like to pay, but without the CO2 pollution, and all the smoke
> >clogging air over Chinese cities and floating long distance on winds.
>
> You are out of your ever loving mind. China has a 450 billion BOP
> surplus and the U.S. is roughly 10 trillion in debt with the lunatics
> currently in office spending one and a half trillion this year and, if
> they have their way, a trillion more per year for at least the next 5
> years.

No, I am not out of my mind.

While the Chinese slave their guts out for peanuts to provide millions
of products americans are too lazy to make for themselves, then you
may never see them agreeing to american demands about CO2.

America deserves the financial mess it is in because of the terrible
mismanagement. But Obama just found 850 billion for his new health
reforms, so don't tell me the US could not supply a bag of nuke power
plants where they are most needed.


>
> >The money can be easily raised by a Goods and Services Tax
>
> Screw you. We're already going to be taxed into oblivion with cap &
> trade to 'not fix' a non existent 'problem' and paying for 'free
> healthcare'.

If a nuke power plant costs a billion, and there are 50, then that's
50 billion. Divide 50 billion by 350,000,000, the population of the
US, then the amount per person spent on cleaning up China's air is not
very much.

The US wasted vast amounts on Iraq. And what the US throws out in the
rubbish would feed a whole country.

Meanwhile, all the people who earn vast and obscene wages hundreds or
thousands of times higher than the minimum US wage should be taxed a
whole lot more.

>
> > which means
> >everyone in the US pays for the betterment of power generation in
> >developing nations like China.
>
> China enjoys, by virtue of their import and money market
> manipulations, and a 236 BILLION per YEAR trade surplus with the U.S.
> They can pay for their own damn power plants.

Gee, well how come the US is running things so badly that some huge
country that is full of very very poor little brown ppl can out smart
the US over trade?

Don't find excuses to escape caring for your brother if the mess he
makes next door to you needs your help.

The trouble with the US has often been that it really hates little
brown people. And when the US doersn't get its imperial way it then
sends in the bombers. Vietnam was a terrible mistake. Think how much
better off the US AND Vietnam would have been if it had just let the
Vitnamese sort out their squabbles for themselves and without
interference.
Imagine if Britain had become heavily involved in the US Civil War and
favoured the South. I am being a little absurd,
but now its time for different solutions to the old time bull****.

>
> We'll offer a 5% discount for volume purchases, though. Like, say, for
> 100, or more, identical spec 'd plants per order.

Make that 85% discount. If the US provides the knowhow and the brains,
and the Chinese do the hard work, both China and America win. But I
think that within 20 years it will become all the more obvious that
something drastic has to be done about CO2 that the Chinese may
completely outwit US nuclear technology. Basically, the US problem is
that it has less and less to sell that the world wants, so as time
passes the US will fade from view, rather like the wane of British
power.
>
> >Trouble is the West would suspect too much world political power would
> >then transfer to China; Energy superiority = national superiority.
>
> Well then, thanks for asking for the U.S. to collectively blow it's
> brains out.
>
> >So having the US
>
> Find another whipping boy.
>
> > helping people out those who cause us so much concern
> >about CO2 is not likely to ever happen, and worker life conditions in
> >developing nations will remain poor. I can easily see why China has a
> >**** You Too policy over greenhouse. Meanwhile a new coal fired power
> >station is opened each week in China.
>
> Which proves there's no shortage of money there.

It shows their desperation. A coal fired power station is MUCH cheaper
to build than a nuclear plant.

Come to think of it, maybe the Chinese could thumb their nose at any
offer the US might make.

>
> > They will continue with less
> >grand and peicemeal developments and progress, "first get rich, then
> >clean up mess", except that probably the mess will never be cleaned
> >up.
>
> >There is now a volcano on the Philipines that looks like it might make
> >a major eruption soon. Let us hope its a bigger blow than Pinatubo and
> >dumps plenty of SO2 and ash and ****e up high which will reduce the
> >heating we are seeing temporarily.
>
> >If I had the money I'd put a pile of solar panels on my roof. *But I
> >ain't got the ****in money.
>
> More proof of the AGW lie that 'alternate' energy is 'competitive'.

That I cannot afford solar panels does NOT make alternatives
uncompetitive.
I am not a rich man. Who cares about competiveness? Many ppl in
developed nations have vast sums invested in huge cars and houses yet
they whinge about power costs.

How much do you think is the average US citizen's stake in all the
energy industry of of the US?

Its a huge sum of money.

Existing coal fired energy generation will cost us the planet. How
competitive is that? Is it not incompetent?
How come the US does not turn to nuclear? Did you all get **** scared
when Chernoble blew up? One lousy chicken **** Russian designed POS
blows and youse all get scared.

But global warming is only one of many bothers which will give
everyone the ****s over the next 20 years.

Everyone will have to act rather differently to accomodate each
other's activities world wide. The pressures on the natural
environment will become a whole lot greater because everyone wants to
have an Apple Pie North american standard of living.

Chinese ppl now want cars and roads, and would prefer the bicycle be
permanently retired behind the back shed. China is emerging from
frugality when its CO2 was negligible.
50 years ago greenhouse warming wasn't a big problem but now it is,
and will get a whole lot worse unless the world makes the necessary
adjustments.
A world of 9 billion living at a high standard cannot be supported by
the existing planet. Something has to give, so changes to lifestyle
will be forced even if you don't like it.

I'l believe international co-operation is possible when I see it but I
doubt it'll be any time soon, and probably we will do too little too
late on this problem like we do on most other global problems of
environmental degradation, wars, povety, and social inequality.

I don't mind who disagrees with me, they are probably old grumpy men
rather like myself who will soon age and die and the next generation
will have to cope with the mess. But I am on the side of a cooler
planet, and I wish to see mankind live without making such a ****ing
big mess than it cannot be cleaned up.

My CO2 productions are much smaller than most other people I know.
Basically, CO2 production relates to personal earnings and wealth. The
hardest lesson for people to learn is to stop reaching out for
evermore possessions.

Patrick Turner.







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[sam booka]

Andre Jute > tapped the mic and amongst other things,
said, "Is this on?" news:fcc9c3e2-41a2-4394-a15b-b9c0e12ead06
@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity to
> share their outrage at this criminal behaviour with us.
>
> On Dec 21, 11:52*pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>> Exactly how crooked is the head crook of the UN's Intergovernmental
>> Panel of Climate Crooks, Dr Rajendra Pachauri?
>>
>> Here is just the tip of the iceberg in Pachauri's insider trading:
>> *http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-
deals.
> ..
>> *If this was a Republican businessman or politician with his snout so
>> flagrantly in the trough, far from the warmieloon scum, who will now
>> defend Pachauri's crimes, defending the
>> Republican, they would be screeching for the authorities to jail him.
>> And the authorities would jail him.
>>
>> Apparently there's one standard of behaviour for decent people and
>> quite another, much more lax standard for the leaders of the
>> warmieloons when they enrich themselves with insider trading as
>> Pachauri and Gore do so blatantly.
>>
>> Andre Jute
>> Boy, have I had a gutful of global warmie hypocrisy
>

The real criminal is Maurice Strong. Googling "Bilderberg Criminal
Maurice Strong" is how I found Chapter 3 of

http://www.policestateplanning.com/preface.htm

Maurice Strong, before he was caught up to his neck in the Iraq Oil For
Food scandal, basically raped Canada's private oil companies to form a
socialist Petro Canada that failed spectacularly and miserably. AGW is
his Petro World vision that has also failed spectacularly. He is the
puppetmaster of Canadian liberal governments, so he goes well beyond
being a perfect trifecta megalomaniac fzckup.

Consider also that when socialists fail and are humiliated is when they
are the most damgerous, basically having resorted to murdering over 250
million people to hide their disasters in the 20th century alone. Can you
think of any other failures of this caliber in your neck of the woods?

--
All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise,
not from defects in their Constitution or confederation, not
from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance
of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation,
John Adams

[Trevor Wilson]

"flipper" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:57:57 -0800 (PST), Patrick Turner
> > wrote:
>
>>On Dec 22, 5:28 pm, Voice of Reason >
>>wrote:
>>> On Dec 21, 8:14 pm, Peter Wieck > wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Dec 21, 6:55 pm, Andre Jute > wrote:
>>>
>>> > > We should of course give our friends on RAT and AGA an opportunity
>>> > > to
>>>
>>> > You have no friends or you would be out with them rather than posting
>>> > here in the wee hours of your morning. And the Royal We goes nowhere
>>> > here in the US, except with those who share your pathology. Get a
>>> > life. Elsewhere, please.
>>>
>>> > Peter Wieck
>>> > Melrose Park, PA
>>>
>>> Andre may have merely been suffering from insomnia and chosen to make
>>> the best of an unfortunate situation by sharing his thoughts with us/
>>> opening the debate to a larger group of people during the wee hours of
>>> the morning. Unless you have evidence to prove this man has no friends
>>> or that he suffers from a pathological condition, I think it would be
>>> wise for you to avoid such personal attacks. That is, of course,
>>> unless you have nothing better to do with your time than attack a man
>>> for speaking his mind in a civilized manner.
>>>
>>> Considering all of the controversy surrounding the issues that are of
>>> interest to Andre, I find it odd that you are more interested in
>>> keeping tabs on his sleeping patterns and social contacts than the
>>> matters he wishes to discuss.
>>
>>I like to think the world of RAT is a free speach world. And why would
>>some ppl here not have a keen interest in global warming?
>>
>>After all, tube amps like Stanley Steamer motor cars are not exactly
>>greenhouse friendly.
>>
>>There would be many pigs at the Trough Of Corruption within the UN.
>>
>>But Andre's angst about warped warmies isn't going to make greenhouse
>>warming go away.
>
> You don't get it, Pat. There is NO AGW 'theory', because they never
> bothered to even make falisfiable predictions, much less 'pass' any,
> and there are NO reliable temperature records to make the 'global
> warming' claims because all those graphs and numbers you see plastered
> all over the place come out of cherry picked, upside down, deleted,
> missing, hacked, mashed, and cooked fraudulent data.

**********. The data which clearly shows a warming trend has been confirmed
by a number of groups over many decades. That warming is occuring is beyond
dispute (except for those with no scientific training, of course).

And, on top of
> that, there has been NO 'global warming' for the last decade.

**Piling more lies on your original lies, does not make a truth. Here's the
facts:

* The planet has warmed since
* The warming TREND has not abated.
* 1998 was an unsually warm El Nino year.
* If you cared to take 1999 as your base-line (which you won't, because it
is 10 years), you would find that the planet has warmed.


>
>
>> Here we are continuring to get mid summer temps and
>>its still springtime, and I bet we have a record hot summer and autumn
>>and winter especially as the El-ninio effect kicks in. So another
>>drought looms, with fly blown dead cattle and sheep.
>>
>>Anyone in the northern hemisphere could be forgiven to think its
>>cooling down if one looks at the snow dumps right now.
>>All that coldness that normally is confined to the poles has spread
>>wide. Meanwhile ice melting continues world wide.
>>
>>My gripe about Copenhagen is that the big develped nation bullies
>>tried to push China into signing a deal which would send China broke.
>>About 200million chinese operate the export goods industries where
>>stuff is manufactured for costs that are -26dB lower than in the US.
>
> Primarily because China manipulates the exchange rate, screwing
> everyone.
>
>>Yet the US expects china to cut its emissions big time, but that would
>>mean building many nuclear power stations straightaway, and from what
>>I can see, China ain't got the cash for such a huge sudden change.
>
> Just a 450 billion BOP surplus is all.
>
>> The
>>US has the cash though, so the US should simply DONATE 50 nuke power
>>stations free of charge so production can continue at the prices US
>>people like to pay, but without the CO2 pollution, and all the smoke
>>clogging air over Chinese cities and floating long distance on winds.
>
> You are out of your ever loving mind. China has a 450 billion BOP
> surplus and the U.S. is roughly 10 trillion in debt with the lunatics
> currently in office spending one and a half trillion this year and, if
> they have their way, a trillion more per year for at least the next 5
> years.

**Yet you didn't moan about the trillions wasted on stupid wars by Dubya.
Why is that?

>
>>The money can be easily raised by a Goods and Services Tax
>
> Screw you. We're already going to be taxed into oblivion with cap &
> trade to 'not fix' a non existent 'problem' and paying for 'free
> healthcare'.

**Points:

* The US health system is the most expnsive and worst performing of any
civilised nation. By a long margin.
* The US is taxed at a lower rate than most of the other civilised nations.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/tax_tot_tax_as_of_gdp-taxation-total-as-of-gdp

Stop whining and support a government controlled health care system. It will
cost you MUCH less and offer decent health care for the majority of
Americans. It works everywhere else.

>
>> which means
>>everyone in the US pays for the betterment of power generation in
>>developing nations like China.
>
> China enjoys, by virtue of their import and money market
> manipulations, and a 236 BILLION per YEAR trade surplus with the U.S.
> They can pay for their own damn power plants.
>
> We'll offer a 5% discount for volume purchases, though. Like, say, for
> 100, or more, identical spec 'd plants per order.
>
>>Trouble is the West would suspect too much world political power would
>>then transfer to China; Energy superiority = national superiority.
>
> Well then, thanks for asking for the U.S. to collectively blow it's
> brains out.
>
>>So having the US
>
> Find another whipping boy.
>
>> helping people out those who cause us so much concern
>>about CO2 is not likely to ever happen, and worker life conditions in
>>developing nations will remain poor. I can easily see why China has a
>>**** You Too policy over greenhouse. Meanwhile a new coal fired power
>>station is opened each week in China.
>
> Which proves there's no shortage of money there.
>
>> They will continue with less
>>grand and peicemeal developments and progress, "first get rich, then
>>clean up mess", except that probably the mess will never be cleaned
>>up.
>>
>>There is now a volcano on the Philipines that looks like it might make
>>a major eruption soon. Let us hope its a bigger blow than Pinatubo and
>>dumps plenty of SO2 and ash and ****e up high which will reduce the
>>heating we are seeing temporarily.
>>
>>If I had the money I'd put a pile of solar panels on my roof. But I
>>ain't got the ****in money.
>
> More proof of the AGW lie that 'alternate' energy is 'competitive'.

**Of course it's competitive. Fossil fuel energy sources are effectively
free.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[MarkS]

<snip whole lots>
>so as time
>passes the US will fade from view, rather like the wane of British
>power.

How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go; That you don't know what you
got 'till its gone"

AND I'm not talking about the folks in Minneapolis only, I'm talking about
the "little brown people" as well.

A simple thank you will do.

Mark

"Son of a Bitch Yankee"

[Peter Wieck]

On Dec 22, 9:46*am, Lord Valve > wrote:

> Wieck's an asshole, a walkin'-talkin' sphincter of legendary proportion.
>
> Keep readin' him, you'll see.

Why thank you!

From someone who calls himself both a "Lord" and an "American" - that
cannot be anything but a compliment. I would be quite upset were
someone of your peculiar persuasions to say anything actually nice
about me.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[Trevor Wilson]

"Anonymous" > wrote in message
...
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **********. The data which clearly shows a warming trend has been
>> confirmed
>> by a number of groups over many decades. That warming is occuring is
>> beyond
>> dispute (except for those with no scientific training, of course).
>
> You AGW nutters are all the same!

**LOL! As opposed to the talk back radio hosts who place their faith in
religion, rather than science.

>
> Never mind the fact that the data your handlers based their lies on
> was discarded.

**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be fudging
a VERY SMALL amount of data.

>
> Never mind the fact that independent data sources DO NOT show any
> evidence of abnormalities..

**Cite those "independent data sources". Naturally, they will be
peer-reviewed. Anything less will be rejected as bull****.

>
> Never mind the fact that your handlers were caught red handed
> falsifying their findings.

**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be fudging
a VERY SMALL amount of data.

>
> Never mind the fact that one of your handlers has already been
> convicted of fraud in a nearly identical scam...

**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be fudging
a VERY SMALL amount of data.

>
> Just flail your arms about wildly and screech "IS TO! IS TO! IS
> TO!" as loud as you can and reality will cease to exist.
>
> I almost feel sorry for you.
>
> Almost.

**You are a complete moron. I suggest you learn some science.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Trevor Wilson]

"flipper" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:16:00 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Anonymous" > wrote in message
...
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Never mind the fact that the data your handlers based their lies on
>>> was discarded.
>>
>>**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be
>>fudging
>>a VERY SMALL amount of data.
>
> Wrong. It was THE (supposed) researchers at THE institute that
> produces THE data that every one else uses.

**Incorrect. As usual.

>
> From their own 'new' site
>
> "The area of CRU's work that has probably had the largest
> international impact was started in 1978 and continues through to the
> present-day: the production of the world's land-based, gridded
> (currently using 5° by 5° latitude/longitude boxes) temperature data
> set... This work continues year-on-year to update and enhance the
> record and its publication is eagerly awaited around the world."
>

**So? Do you imagine that CRU is the sole investigative source on this
planet for climate information? You're a ****ing dreamer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Lord Valve]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

> "flipper" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:16:00 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Anonymous" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> >>>
> >>> Never mind the fact that the data your handlers based their lies on
> >>> was discarded.
> >>
> >>**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be
> >>fudging
> >>a VERY SMALL amount of data.
> >
> > Wrong. It was THE (supposed) researchers at THE institute that
> > produces THE data that every one else uses.
>
> **Incorrect. As usual.
>
> >
> > From their own 'new' site
> >
> > "The area of CRU's work that has probably had the largest
> > international impact was started in 1978 and continues through to the
> > present-day: the production of the world's land-based, gridded
> > (currently using 5° by 5° latitude/longitude boxes) temperature data
> > set... This work continues year-on-year to update and enhance the
> > record and its publication is eagerly awaited around the world."
> >
>
> **So? Do you imagine that CRU is the sole investigative source on this
> planet for climate information? You're a ****ing dreamer.

Yeah, I mean...the Russians, y'know? They do good science.

And THEY say...oooops.... Never mind...


Lord Valve
Globally Cool

[Patrick Turner]

On Dec 23, 11:53*am, "MarkS" > wrote:
> <snip whole lots>
>
> >so as time
> >passes the US will fade from view, rather like the wane of British
> >power.
>
> How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go; That you don't know what you
> got 'till its gone"
>
> AND I'm not talking about the folks in Minneapolis only, I'm talking about
> the "little brown people" as well.
>
> A simple thank you will do.
>
> Mark
>
> "Son of a Bitch Yankee"


Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

And when you airmail the missles in Minneapolis to vast countries full
of little brown ppl then I doubt anyone will thank you.

I much enjoyed a TV show the other night which told the story of John
Lennon and his wife Yoko and their attempt to "Give Peace a Chance".

Lennon and his astute intellectuality greatly helped expose the
idiotic folly of US imperialism at that time of the Vietnam war. I was
happy to see the end of McCarthy, Hoover, and Nixon who escalated the
war and cause millions of unecessary deaths all for a stupid cause.

But I ain't no friend of HoChi Min, and I hated uncle Mao and uncle
Joe from Russia.

I just know an arsole by the smell.

In time the gun totin cowboy tactics of the US will become irrelevant
as China and India strike ever more lucrative deals around the world
and thus dominate the world's commerce.

I doubt leaders in China or India will ever need to threaten to use
nuclear weapons because they must know that would ruin trade.

Patrick Turner.

[Patrick Turner]

On Dec 24, 5:58*am, Anonymous > wrote:
> Lord Valve wrote:
> > Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >=20
> > > "flipper" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:16:00 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > >>"Anonymous" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> > > > <snip>
>
> > > >>> Never mind the fact that the data your handlers based their lies on
> > > >>> was discarded.
>
> > > >>**More ********. A VERY TINY number of researchers were found to be
> > > >>fudging
> > > >>a VERY SMALL amount of data.
>
> > > > Wrong. It was THE (supposed) researchers at THE institute that
> > > > produces THE data that every one else uses.
>
> > > **Incorrect. As usual.
>
> > > > From their own 'new' site
>
> > > > "The area of CRU's work that has probably had the largest
> > > > international impact was started in 1978 and continues through to the
> > > > present-day: the production of the world's land-based, gridded
> > > > (currently using 5=C2=B0 by 5=C2=B0 latitude/longitude boxes) tempera=
> ture data
> > > > set... This work continues year-on-year to update and enhance the
> > > > record and its publication is eagerly awaited around the world."
>
> > > **So? Do you imagine that CRU is the sole investigative source on this
> > > planet for climate information? You're a ****ing dreamer.
> >=20
> > Yeah, I mean...the Russians, y'know? *They do good science.
> >=20
> > And THEY say...oooops.... * Never mind...
>
> Not to mention the hoards of Canadian scientists who are abandoning
> the AGW farce like rats from a burning ship. Of course the CRU
> email scandal is just a nudge. Real scientists the world over have
> been rejecting AGW in droves for years now.
>
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=3D64734
>
> The IPCC *was* the go-to organization. In ever dwindling numbers the
> rest of the politico-scientific community used them as a legitimate
> source of information. Now *everyone* realizes they were swindled.
>
> It ain't over yet boyz and gurls. I predict that within 6 o 12
> months even Barack O'Slima will waffle its way to the other side.
> And the only ones left will be far left wingnuts like our misguided
> acquaintance Trevor here... there will always be nutters, eager to
> believe whatever lie you stuff into their protruding craniums if
> you label it a "cause".-

Within 20 years when it becomes bleedin obvious that global warming is
a real bother, it may be realised by one and all that urgent action is
really needed. Perhaps everyone will find reasons to not contribute to
any communal action on reducing CO2 emissions which will have become
much higher than present levels.
Maybe the main reason will be "**** it all, Nothing Can Save Us Now."

No doubt by then there will still be the doubters like people of 40
who manage a packet of smokes each day but who maintain they are still
fit and healthy and that their lives won't be shortened by a painful
death from lung cancer.

Mother Nature might smile with glee as she chastises man for his
arrogance, and while she kicks his butt.

There's nothing wrong with keeping a woman warm and happy with a joke,
but if you raise her temperature un-naturally by ****ing her up the
arse, watch out!!

And Global Warming isn't the only big problem facing the next
generation when they become adults.

There have always been problems, and people pay the price of either
adressing problems or ignoring them.

Patrick Turner.

[Lord Valve]

Patrick Turner wrote:

> On Dec 23, 11:53 am, "MarkS" > wrote:
> > <snip whole lots>
> >
> > >so as time
> > >passes the US will fade from view, rather like the wane of British
> > >power.
> >
> > How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go; That you don't know what you
> > got 'till its gone"
> >
> > AND I'm not talking about the folks in Minneapolis only, I'm talking about
> > the "little brown people" as well.
> >
> > A simple thank you will do.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > "Son of a Bitch Yankee"
>
> Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

**** you. Who says so?

> And when you airmail the missles in Minneapolis to vast countries full
> of little brown ppl then I doubt anyone will thank you.

If that becomes necessary, the "little brown ppl" will cease to exist.

> I much enjoyed a TV show the other night which told the story of John
> Lennon and his wife Yoko and their attempt to "Give Peace a Chance".
>
> Lennon and his astute intellectuality

Oh, ****, I laughed so hard my face hurts.

> greatly helped expose the
> idiotic folly of US imperialism at that time of the Vietnam war. I was
> happy to see the end of McCarthy, Hoover, and Nixon who escalated the
> war and cause millions of unecessary deaths all for a stupid cause.

McCarthy died in *1957*, you ass. He didn't have ****** to do with Nam.

> But I ain't no friend of HoChi Min, and I hated uncle Mao and uncle
> Joe from Russia.

**** you ain't. You waddle, you quack. You're a socialist. **** you - we will
bury you. (To quote one of your heros.)

> I just know an arsole by the smell.

So, what - you wear a clothespin on your nose so you can live with yourself?

> In time the gun totin cowboy tactics of the US will become irrelevant
> as China and India strike ever more lucrative deals around the world
> and thus dominate the world's commerce.

I wouldn't count too hard on that, cobber.

> I doubt leaders in China or India will ever need to threaten to use
> nuclear weapons because they must know that would ruin trade.

Commies don't give a **** for trade.

They've killed 250 million people - so far. And Oz is fat and weak.
Without the USA, slick, you are some kinda in their sights, so
you just keep popping off with all that America-hatin' bull****;
if enough arseholes like you do that often enough, maybe we'll
let 'em have you the next time around. You can learn to speak
Chinese; after all, you got a pass on the Japanese thing.

Right?

Lord Valve
American

[Les Cargill[_2_]]

Patrick Turner wrote:
> On Dec 23, 11:53 am, "MarkS" > wrote:
>> <snip whole lots>
>>
>>> so as time
>>> passes the US will fade from view, rather like the wane of British
>>> power.
>> How's the song go? "Don't it always seem to go; That you don't know what you
>> got 'till its gone"
>>
>> AND I'm not talking about the folks in Minneapolis only, I'm talking about
>> the "little brown people" as well.
>>
>> A simple thank you will do.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Son of a Bitch Yankee"
>
>
> Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
>
> And when you airmail the missles in Minneapolis to vast countries full
> of little brown ppl then I doubt anyone will thank you.
>
> I much enjoyed a TV show the other night which told the story of John
> Lennon and his wife Yoko and their attempt to "Give Peace a Chance".
>
> Lennon and his astute intellectuality greatly helped expose the
> idiotic folly of US imperialism at that time of the Vietnam war.


Hoo boy. Sorry; false. You just backed the wrong horse. Lennon
was pretty out of it - rent "The US v. John Lennon", or just
wait on VH1 to transmit it again.

Dude was on and off heroin through the '70s. Not good.

> I was
> happy to see the end of McCarthy, Hoover, and Nixon who escalated the
> war and cause millions of unecessary deaths all for a stupid cause.
>

McCarthy? I don't think so, Jim. And Nixon was *way* late to that
party. And WTF did Hoover have to do with it?

> But I ain't no friend of HoChi Min, and I hated uncle Mao and uncle
> Joe from Russia.
>
> I just know an arsole by the smell.
>

I try to stay far enough to miss that.

> In time the gun totin cowboy tactics of the US will become irrelevant
> as China and India strike ever more lucrative deals around the world
> and thus dominate the world's commerce.
>

Meh. Unlikely. They have very far to go.

> I doubt leaders in China or India will ever need to threaten to use
> nuclear weapons because they must know that would ruin trade.
>

There is no telling what will happen there.

> Patrick Turner.
>
>

--
Les Cargill

[MarkS]

<Snip Again>
>Basically, the US problem is
>that it has less and less to sell that the world.

On the other hand, it does have the F22 Raptor. Expensive? You bet your ass.
But there are few countries around the world that would give up a decent
percentage of their GNP to get a fleet. Like oh Japan, who see the nut case
in NK as a real threat. Or Israel, who are looking at a nuke Iran in the
teeth. Ohhh, I forgot, this is our fault too. But, we won't let the F22 out
of the country. Too bad for them I guess. We should fit it with a "come
home" box I guess. No worry, the ol' F15 Eagle is still plenty lethal.

Mark
"Damn Yankee"

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

Lest we forget the exact kind of global warmie crookery celebrated in
this thread:
> Exactly how crooked is the head crook of the UN's Intergovernmental
> Panel of Climate Crooks, Dr Rajendra Pachauri?
>
> Here is just the tip of the iceberg in Pachauri's insider trading:
> *http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6847227/Questions-over-business-deals....
> *If this was a Republican businessman or politician with his snout so
> flagrantly in the trough, far from the warmieloon scum, who will now
> defend Pachauri's crimes, defending the
> Republican, they would be screeching for the authorities to jail him.
> And the authorities would jail him.
>
> Apparently there's one standard of behaviour for decent people and
> quite another, much more lax standard for the leaders of the
> warmieloons when they enrich themselves with insider trading as
> Pachauri and Gore do so blatantly.
>
> Andre Jute
> Boy, have I had a gutful of global warmie hypocrisy

[Andre Jute[_2_]]

On Dec 23, 6:33*am, Anonymous > wrote to the wretched
Trevor Wilson:

> You AGW nutters are all the same!
>
> Never mind the fact that the data your handlers based their lies on
> was discarded.
>
> Never mind the fact that independent data sources DO NOT show any
> evidence of abnormalities.
>
> Never mind the fact that your handlers were caught red handed
> falsifying their findings.
>
> Never mind the fact that one of your handlers has already been
> convicted of fraud in a nearly identical scam...

You have a reference to this event so we can have a good read?

> Just flail your arms about wildly and screech "IS TO! IS TO! IS
> TO!" as loud as you can and reality will cease to exist.
>
> I almost feel sorry for you.
>
> Almost.

That arrogant scum cheated and were caught out. Pity would be wasted
on them.

Andre Jute
The IPCC -- longest hand job in the history of mass hysteria -- has
now lasted almost twice as long as the Third Reich

[JJTj[_2_]]

>> Lennon and his astute intellectuality
>
>Oh, ****, I laughed so hard my face hurts.

Any time you have to quote or even mention John Lennon
in your response, you lose it big time. JL was a complete
joke, peace/love/etc wise. Just look at his history, how
he lived his life, then try hard to ignore his songs as
being some holy hymns. Go on..try.. Without laughing.

I just love the old Firesign Theatre LP cover with the
commie leaders (the FT in dress) and behind them are
pictures of JLennon and GMarx. Sort of sums it all up..


JJTj






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