AKG WMS40 Transformer quality

[LAB]

I already have a good quality wireless microphone (the italian dB
Technologies PU900M, Beyerdynamic capsule and a RF link better than many pro
Shure mics, not only PG's!), but for some non-critical applications (i.e.
short distance in a church) I'd like to buy a AKG WMS40 Transformer for
about 140 Euro by Ebay from Germany.

Transmitter has an XLR connector to be used with any dynamic microphone
(there is also a sensitivity adjust). I could use a good quality mic or the
first SM/PG58 I get in my hands. Tx frequency is fixed (it has no PLL...)

Does anyone tried it?
Primarily: does it have a compander or noise is very annoying? (even
though receiver could have a noise gate to declare a better ratio!).
RF link is good?

From a cheap device like this I don't want the best performances, but it
must have good value for the money...

Thanks
Gian

[Mark]

On Oct 20, 6:53*am, "LAB" > wrote:
> * * I already have a good quality wireless microphone (the italian dB
> Technologies PU900M, Beyerdynamic capsule and a RF link better than many pro
> Shure mics, not only PG's!), but for some non-critical applications (i.e.
> short distance in a church) I'd like to buy a AKG WMS40 Transformer for
> about 140 Euro by Ebay from Germany.
>
> * * Transmitter has an XLR connector to be used with any dynamic microphone
> (there is also a sensitivity adjust). I could use a good quality mic or the
> first SM/PG58 I get in my hands. Tx frequency is fixed (it has no PLL...)
>
> * * Does anyone tried it?
> * * Primarily: does it have a compander or noise is very annoying? (even
> though receiver could have a noise gate to declare a better ratio!).
> * * RF link is good?
>
> * * From a cheap device like this I don't want the best performances, but it
> must have good value for the money...
>
> * * Thanks
> * * Gian

I see that AKG does indeed call this system a TRANSFORMER but that is
totally confusing, its a wireless Tx Rx system... you my want to re-
title the subject line..

Mark

[Richard Crowley]

"Mark" wrote ...
> "LAB" wrote:
>> I already have a good quality wireless microphone (the italian dB
>> Technologies PU900M, Beyerdynamic capsule and a RF link better than many
>> pro
>> Shure mics, not only PG's!), but for some non-critical applications (i.e.
>> short distance in a church) I'd like to buy a AKG WMS40 Transformer for
>> about 140 Euro by Ebay from Germany.
>>
>> Transmitter has an XLR connector to be used with any dynamic microphone
>> (there is also a sensitivity adjust). I could use a good quality mic or
>> the
>> first SM/PG58 I get in my hands. Tx frequency is fixed (it has no PLL...)
>>
>> Does anyone tried it?
>> Primarily: does it have a compander or noise is very annoying? (even
>> though receiver could have a noise gate to declare a better ratio!).
>> RF link is good?
>>
>> From a cheap device like this I don't want the best performances, but it
>> must have good value for the money...
>
> I see that AKG does indeed call this system a TRANSFORMER but that is
> totally confusing, its a wireless Tx Rx system... you my want to re-
> title the subject line..

I was trying to figure out what that was? I wonder if the
current generation of marketing kids have probably never
heard of the iron-core copper-windings thing and think that
a "transformer" is some comic-book contraption that converts
from a fire engine to a monster.

I supposed in this case they were using the word to indicate
that the butt-plug "transforms" your wired handheld mic into
a wireless version.

[geoff]

"LAB" > wrote in message ...
> I already have a good quality wireless microphone (the italian dB
> Technologies PU900M, Beyerdynamic capsule and a RF link better than many
> pro Shure mics, not only PG's!), but for some non-critical applications
> (i.e. short distance in a church) I'd like to buy a AKG WMS40 Transformer
> for about 140 Euro by Ebay from Germany.

Your opinion of the dBTech device is somewhat out of touch with reality, I
suspect. Maybe a touch of misplaced patriotism ?

>
> Transmitter has an XLR connector to be used with any dynamic microphone
> (there is also a sensitivity adjust). I could use a good quality mic or
> the first SM/PG58 I get in my hands. Tx frequency is fixed (it has no
> PLL...)

Why do you have a problem with a PLL ? Some theoretical technical
inferiority, or a real-life experience ? ANd do you imagine that an SM58 (or
PG58 !!!) is somehow a 'good quality mic' ?

>
> Does anyone tried it?

Yes, daily.

> Primarily: does it have a compander or noise is very annoying? (even
> though receiver could have a noise gate to declare a better ratio!).
> RF link is good?


Yes, like pretty much ALL wireless mics it has a compander. Why do you
imagine a compander is some sort of problem ?.

> From a cheap device like this I don't want the best performances, but
> it must have good value for the money...

Really ? It seems like you really want top performance in all areas while
paying the least ? Really - you do get what you pay for. But equally it is
a law of diminishing returns.


It you want to wander around Sm Marco Square maintaining a flawlessly
reliable and ultiate fidelity wireless link, you really don't want to be
looking at the low end of the market.'


The wireless link on the WMS40 is likely to be similar quality to the
dBTech, and the mic quality is as good as what you plug the SO40 into. But
you real limiting factor soundwise, is what you are actually trying to do -
the environment.

geoff

[LAB]

"LAB" > wrote in message ...
> I already have a good quality wireless microphone (the italian dB
> Technologies PU900M, Beyerdynamic capsule and a RF link better than many
> pro Shure mics, not only PG's!)


GEOFF:
Your opinion of the dBTech device is somewhat out of touch with reality, I
suspect. Maybe a touch of misplaced patriotism ?

Maybe as you say, but RF link have been better than PG Shure's a few
weeks ago and it have been better than other Shure's many years ago. I don't
know anymore.


>I could use a good quality mic or the first SM/PG58 I get in my hands. Tx
>frequency is fixed (it has no PLL...)

GEOFF:
Why do you have a problem with a PLL ? Some theoretical technical
inferiority, or a real-life experience ? ANd do you imagine that an SM58 (or
PG58 !!!) is somehow a 'good quality mic' ?

No problem... except for fm HiFi demodulation. SO 40 has fixed
frequency, then I think it has no PLL. It could be PLL is programmable with
a computer, I don't know and I don't worry about.


> Primarily: does it have a compander or noise is very annoying? (even
> though receiver could have a noise gate to declare a better ratio!).
> RF link is good?

GEOFF:
Yes, like pretty much ALL wireless mics it has a compander. Why do you
imagine a compander is some sort of problem ?.

No problem at all; very cheap devices have no compander and a lot of
noise.


> From a cheap device like this I don't want the best performances, but
> it must have good value for the money...

GEOFF:
Really ? It seems like you really want top performance in all areas while
paying the least ? Really - you do get what you pay for. But equally it is
a law of diminishing returns.

When I design a device for my hobby I work hard to have the best.
I'm a 25 years experienced technician in audio (but not only) electronics.
Expensive devices many times have no "shocking" technology in them.


GEOFF:
It you want to wander around Sm Marco Square maintaining a flawlessly
reliable and ultiate fidelity wireless link, you really don't want to be
looking at the low end of the market.'

:-)


GEOFF:
The wireless link on the WMS40 is likely to be similar quality to the
dBTech, and the mic quality is as good as what you plug the SO40 into. But
you real limiting factor soundwise, is what you are actually trying to do -
the environment.

geoff



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Gianluca

[LAB]

>I could use a good quality mic or the first SM/PG58 I get in my hands.

GEOFF:
do you imagine that an SM58 (or PG58 !!!) is somehow a 'good quality mic' ?

No, I don't. "I could use a good quality mic - OR - the first SM/PG58 I
get in my hands."

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Gianluca

[LAB]

>> I'm a 25 years experienced technician in audio (but not only)
electronics.

25 years of experience, 42 old.

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Gianluca