stereo cable

[Zigo Zago]

I'd like to build a 20 meters cable with 2 couples of xlr.
I'll use it to connect to my audio interface to 2 small condenser
michrophones.
Now I have some questions:

Which sort of cable I have to use? It seems impossible to find a already
prepared one...
Is it better to use 2 "2 xlr to 5 pin adapter" and a 5 pin microphone cable?

Are there any soldering instruction about connection?

Thanks,

ZZ

[Laurence Payne[_2_]]

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:22:57 +0200, "zigo zago" >
wrote:

>I'd like to build a 20 meters cable with 2 couples of xlr.
>I'll use it to connect to my audio interface to 2 small condenser
>michrophones.
>Now I have some questions:
>
>Which sort of cable I have to use? It seems impossible to find a already
>prepared one...
>Is it better to use 2 "2 xlr to 5 pin adapter" and a 5 pin microphone cable?
>
>Are there any soldering instruction about connection?
>


Just run a pair of normal XLR mic cables. Don't make life
complicated.

[Zigo Zago]

> Just run a pair of normal XLR mic cables. Don't make life
> complicated.

That's just what I don't want to do.
Thanks.

ZZ

[Zigo Zago]

> Don't make life complicated.

Just to understand better.
Extremly big historical italian theatre.
I need to hang up 2 mics in front of the stage.

A) easy way: 1 black string from one box, 1 20 meters stereo mic cable from
the other box, -- recorder

B) complicated way: 2 cable, one 20 meters long, the other around 100

or

B1) complicated way bis: string + double cable and consequent difficulty to
hang the mics...


ZZ

[John Williamson]

zigo zago wrote:
>> Don't make life complicated.
>
> Just to understand better.
> Extremly big historical italian theatre.
> I need to hang up 2 mics in front of the stage.
>
> A) easy way: 1 black string from one box, 1 20 meters stereo mic cable from
> the other box, -- recorder
>
> B) complicated way: 2 cable, one 20 meters long, the other around 100
>
> or
>
> B1) complicated way bis: string + double cable and consequent difficulty to
> hang the mics...
>
I'd do as Laurence suggests, make up or buy two standard XLR-XLR
extension cables, and use cable ties, gaffer tape or heatshrink tube to
your taste every 20cm or so to make sure they stay together.

It saves having a non-standard cable and the necessary adaptors or a
breakout box at each end, and will be as easy to rig as the thicker 5
core if you make it up beforehand. It's also less complicated to make
and easier to fix than a special cable with a breakout box and tails at
each end.

Just a thought.

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John.

[Richard Crowley]

"zigo zago" wrote...
>> Just run a pair of normal XLR mic cables. Don't make life
>> complicated.
>
> That's just what I don't want to do.
> Thanks.

If you really have decided on using a stereo cable, you
can do what I have done. Around 30% of my mic cable
collection is "star-quad" (4-conductor) cable wired with 5-
pin XLR Male & Female at the ends. The 5-pin XLRs plug
directly into my stereo microphones.

And I have made several Y-cables for each end. I have
Y-cables with two 3-pin Female XLR into a single 5-pin
male when I'm using a pair of individual mics, and then,
of course I need another Y-cable that goes from 5-pin
Female to two 3-pin Male at the mixer end.

Some of my stereo mic cables are the kind with two
individual separately sheathed shielded stereo pair inside.
(Belden 1902A) But that stuff is something like 10mm
diameter and takes a lot of space.

My most recent cables (which I made specifically for international
traveling, using Mogami 2893) are much smaller (4-5mm) and
lighter. They work very well for me. I do mostly location recording
of classical (choral, orchestral) music.

The standard wiring scheme for 5-pin XLR is:

1 Ground/screen/shield
2 L +
3 L -
4 R +
5 R -

[Richard Webb[_3_]]

On Fri 2037-Oct-09 09:11, zigo zago writes:

>> Just run a pair of normal XLR mic cables. Don't make life
>> complicated.

> That's just what I don't want to do.
WHy not? IT's the easiest. Probably of higher quality than most "stereo" cables you're going to buy.

To get any kind of reasonable quality you'd need to go with
something multiple pair, and probably more than two channels worth. I'd just run two cables and call it even.


I understand from another post this is an old theater, and
you're wanting to hang a pair of mics. Means you're
eventualy going to want some spot mics or something.
i've not looked for multiple pair cables with just two pairs so don't know what's out there, but Beldon or the usual
suspects might have something.

GOod luck.


Regards,
Richard
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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

There are a number of suppliers of two-pair cable, but it's not easy to
find one ready made. If
you don't mind buying the cable and connectors and assembling it
yourself, you should have
no problem with the two pairs in the same jacket.

If you were in the US, Steve Lampen of Belden would probalby give you as
much as you need
as a sample, but in your country, you'll probably have to find another
source.

[Scott Dorsey]

In article >,
zigo zago > wrote:
>> Just run a pair of normal XLR mic cables. Don't make life
>> complicated.
>
>That's just what I don't want to do.
>Thanks.

You can buy the cable you want premade from a company that sells to the
production sound industry, or you can get Gepco or a similar company
to make it up for you.

You can get cables that pigtail to two 3-pin XLRs, or some that have
5-pin XLRs with pigtail cables that split the 5-pin XLRs to two 3-pin
ones. If you have to boom the mike, the lighter weight of the simple
pigtailed cables is a win.

There are two industry standards for 5-pin XLR pinouts.... the SOny one
and the other one. Use one of the two, but don't expect to interchange
with anyone else unless you know which one they use.
--scott

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[Scott Dorsey]

Mike Rivers > wrote:
>There are a number of suppliers of two-pair cable, but it's not easy to
>find one ready made. If
>you don't mind buying the cable and connectors and assembling it
>yourself, you should have
>no problem with the two pairs in the same jacket.
>
>If you were in the US, Steve Lampen of Belden would probalby give you as
>much as you need
>as a sample, but in your country, you'll probably have to find another
>source.

Any hardware store in the US should have 12/4 SO or SJ cable. The SO is
a little more rugged than the SJ but it's a little heavier to carry around.

In Europe they have Harmonized equivalents... the binder is a different
material (they use something nylon instead of jute) and the gauge size is
replaced with a diameter in millimeters, but the cable is close enough
and the hardware store is never too far away.
--scott

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