DVD +R/W or + and - R/W drive? Copying DVD's with a DVD +RW drive? (Dell)

[Acousticat]

Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they aren't
that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????

I was also told that "easy to find software" will allow me to copy a
commercial DVD movie. Is this true? What is some freeware or inexpensive
software that will allow me to do this?

Thanks a bunch!

Mark



--
Mark R. Young

www.geocities.com/resolvingconcerns

[Troy]

I consider this a big deal.I would get a DVD burner that does both
formats.Cost of one format DVDs may go down in price.Also one format may be
fazed out down the road causing DVD blanks to rise in price.This way you can
buy either format what ever is on sale at the time.

I don't own a DVD burner yet.I was waiting on a global format and price to
come down.Now its time to buy with the new pioneers on the market ......no
worries


Good Luck


Acousticat > wrote in message
...
> Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they
aren't
> that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
> getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????
>
> I was also told that "easy to find software" will allow me to copy a
> commercial DVD movie. Is this true? What is some freeware or inexpensive
> software that will allow me to do this?
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --
> Mark R. Young
>
> www.geocities.com/resolvingconcerns
>
>
>

[Marc Wielage]

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:29:00 -0700, Acousticat wrote
(in message >):

> Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they aren't
> that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
> getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????
>-----------------------------<snip>----------------------------<

For a long time, Pioneer insisted that DVD+R wasn't necessary, and they
heavily promoted their own DVD-R group that handed out literature showing
that DVD-R discs will playback in most (if not all) DVD-ROM and DVD Video
players. Philips insisted that DVD+R had better compatibility with DVD-ROM
players, but real-world tests showed the advantages were marginal at best
(but were real in some cases).

Pioneer finally threw in the towel a few months ago and came out with the A06
drive, which does handle DVD-R/DVD+R/DVD-RW/DVD+RW. Sony was the first to
come out with a similar recorder. Either does a fine job at recording DVD
material, and they both sell for comparable prices.

Nowadays, I think it would make sense for users to get one drive that can
handle all DVD recordable formats, simply to give you the best possible
choice of blank media. The prices on DVD+R blanks have fallen quite a bit in
the last few months; even Pioneer's own 4X DVD+R blanks are under a buck and
a half, which is remarkable.

Do a Yahoo search and you can find dozens and dozens of freeware software
programs that will let you copy DVD videodiscs to DVD-R blanks. DVD X Copy
can be found at most computer retail stores (and online), but my guess is
that most commercial DVD-copying software stands a huge risk of being taken
off the market, especially after the court ruling on CSS a week or two ago.

--MFW

[Sugarite]

> Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they
aren't
> that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
> getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????

Simply consult dvdrhelp.com and find out what format your current player
supports, and buy the appropriate burner. The drive like all others will be
obselete within 18 months, long before either format undergoes a significant
change that would devalue it.

> I was also told that "easy to find software" will allow me to copy a
> commercial DVD movie. Is this true? What is some freeware or inexpensive
> software that will allow me to do this?

Again, check dvdrhelp.com and also doom9.org. I can rip a 2.5 hour movie,
transcode it to fit onto a DVD-R, then burn it, all in under an hour. Best
part is that I trim off all the excess crap so the movie just starts playing
when inserted, with chapter access of course. I keep my copies handy in a
binder and my originals mint in storage, and there's more space in my living
room.

[Roger W. Norman]

Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
et...
> Acousticat wrote:
>
> > Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they
aren't
> > that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
> > getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????
> >
> > I was also told that "easy to find software" will allow me to copy a
> > commercial DVD movie. Is this true? What is some freeware or inexpensive
> > software that will allow me to do this?
>
> Wrong newsgroup. Try alt.video.dvd.authoring.
>
> The +/- drives are made by Sony, though other manufacturers have started
> making them as well. At this point in time, I can't see any reason to
> buy a drive that doesn't support both formats.
>

[Jim Gilliland]

Roger W. Norman wrote:
> Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?

No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
drive that handles both + and - formats. I'm perfectly happy with the
one that I have, though. It makes DVDs that play fine in my DVD player
upstairs, and it works well for archiving audio files from my DAW. And
those are the only two reasons that I bought it.

Oh, and it burns CDRs just fine, too, and much faster than my old CD
burner. And despite its DVD capabilities, probably 95% of the discs
that I burn are CDRs, not DVDs.

[Glenn Dowdy]

"Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
et...
> Roger W. Norman wrote:
> > Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?
>
> No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
> Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
> drive that handles both + and - formats

So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the benefit
is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)

Glenn D.

[John LeBlanc]

"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...

> So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the benefit
> is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)

How do you figure the benefit is questionable and of limited duration? Dual
format allows you to do "official" DVD video discs, as well as Mt. Ranier data
DVDs and CDR. If anything, that should extend the useful life of the drive.
Beats the snot out of the DVD-R/DVD-RAM drive I bought first.

John

[shawn]

"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
> et...
> > Roger W. Norman wrote:
> > > Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?
> >
> > No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
> > Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
> > drive that handles both + and - formats
>
> So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the benefit
> is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)

The only sense in which the benefit is "questionable" is that you're hedging
your bets against the "unknowable". If you buy a single format drive,
you're betting on how long *your* format will survive. If you buy a dual
format drive, you're betting on how long *either* format will survive. The
gamble is that by spending a little extra money, you might extend the
usefulness of your purchase. Plus you'll have the capability of exchanging
data with other machines that support one-or-the-other-but-not-both of the
formats. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Glenn Dowdy]

"John LeBlanc" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the
benefit
> > is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)
>
> How do you figure the benefit is questionable and of limited duration?

Both formats in their current configurations will be replaced by newer
technologies. + drives will reach faster speeds before - drives will, and be
fully backwards compatible. The formats are inter-readable.

> Dual
> format allows you to do "official" DVD video discs, as well as Mt. Ranier
data
> DVDs and CDR. If anything, that should extend the useful life of the
drive.
> Beats the snot out of the DVD-R/DVD-RAM drive I bought first.
>
Well, I am both biased and have a little bit of insight into the future that
most probably don't.

Glenn D.

[Roger W. Norman]

Oh, it was you, John. Sorry Jim. I'm still stuck with the DVD-RAM/DVD-R
drive, but for it's intended purposes it's worked out fine. That it may not
do more is a matter of bad planning on my part, but not a fault of the
equipment.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"John LeBlanc" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the
benefit
> > is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)
>
> How do you figure the benefit is questionable and of limited duration?
Dual
> format allows you to do "official" DVD video discs, as well as Mt. Ranier
data
> DVDs and CDR. If anything, that should extend the useful life of the
drive.
> Beats the snot out of the DVD-R/DVD-RAM drive I bought first.
>
> John
>
>

[Roger W. Norman]

Actually, no. If you're buying a single format drive, you are betting that
it will fulfill your requirements for it's cost and it's life cycle.
Anything else would be gravy, and that you don't get anything else would
simply be reality, but then again, that's what you bought it for in the
first place.

Let's not get off on a tangent. Describing one's wishes and one's
requirements are two different things. Buying for the future is conceivably
far more expensive if that future doesn't pan out. Fulfilling requirements
seems to work today and tomorrow up until the time your requirements change.

There's enough money spent in audio for all of us as it is. Betting on the
future is for Wall Street.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"shawn" > wrote in message
...
> "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > > Roger W. Norman wrote:
> > > > Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?
> > >
> > > No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
> > > Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
> > > drive that handles both + and - formats
> >
> > So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the
benefit
> > is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)
>
> The only sense in which the benefit is "questionable" is that you're
hedging
> your bets against the "unknowable". If you buy a single format drive,
> you're betting on how long *your* format will survive. If you buy a dual
> format drive, you're betting on how long *either* format will survive.
The
> gamble is that by spending a little extra money, you might extend the
> usefulness of your purchase. Plus you'll have the capability of
exchanging
> data with other machines that support one-or-the-other-but-not-both of the
> formats. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
>
>

[Glenn Dowdy]

"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> OK, so here's a question that's both on topic and off at the same time.
Say
> I want to be able to take a setup that would allow me to video a live
> performance and concurrently have audio from the FOH board going to the
same
> setup, would it be possible to have a reasonably priced setup that would
> have a finished DVD-Video ready within maybe 20 minutes after a
performance
> (assuming finalization times and me being busy with the next band)?
>
If your camera is capable of taking a feed from FOH, then the new HP DVD
Movie Writer combined with a computer should be able to handle this. With
about five mouse clicks, you can go from camera to DVD without any other
input from the user.

http://tinyurl.com/md6y

Glenn D>

[Roger W. Norman]

OK, so here's a question that's both on topic and off at the same time. Say
I want to be able to take a setup that would allow me to video a live
performance and concurrently have audio from the FOH board going to the same
setup, would it be possible to have a reasonably priced setup that would
have a finished DVD-Video ready within maybe 20 minutes after a performance
(assuming finalization times and me being busy with the next band)?

I'm looking for real world experience not speculation. I can do the
speculation.

Thanks

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "shawn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
> > > et...
> > > > Roger W. Norman wrote:
> > > > > Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?
> > > >
> > > > No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
> > > > Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
> > > > drive that handles both + and - formats
> > >
> > > So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the
> benefit
> > > is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)
> >
> First, check my email address. ;)
>
> > The only sense in which the benefit is "questionable" is that you're
> hedging
> > your bets against the "unknowable". If you buy a single format drive,
> > you're betting on how long *your* format will survive.
>
> If you look at the current market share for aftermarket drives, you'll see
> that while dual format drives hold a considerable share, the market share

> for - only drives is almost non-existent while + format drives are holding
> pace with the dual. Plus, HP and Dell only put + format drives in their
PCs,
> which seems to indicate that there will be + media available for a long
> time.
>
> > If you buy a dual
> > format drive, you're betting on how long *either* format will survive.
> The
> > gamble is that by spending a little extra money, you might extend the
> > usefulness of your purchase.
>
> Backwards compatibility is another consideration, and one format will
> definitely beat the other in that regards. Besides, Blue Ray is just
around
> the corner. You'l soon see definite advantages to + that - can't hope to
> match.
>
> > Plus you'll have the capability of exchanging
> > data with other machines that support one-or-the-other-but-not-both of
the
> > formats. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
> >
> Either format can read the other format's discs. They just can't write to
> them, which while preventing the reuse of a disc for exchanging between +
> and - doesn't prevent the exchange of information. Seems like a corner
case
> to me.
>
> Glenn D.
>
>

[Russell Spearing]

Hi there,

I have just recently bought an NEC ND1300A dual format drive. The thing that
I have found most usefull about the dual format capability is the fact that
you have a much wider range of media to play with for compatability reasons.
For instance, the first batch of DVD-R's I used would play in one of my
settop DVD players but not the other one. Whereas, some DVD+R's I got will
play in both. On the other hand, I have a DVD-RW that will play in both
whereas a DVD+RW won't.

Also, when you look at the price for the dual format drives now, it's not
worth getting a single format drive. I paid £128 (UKp) for the NEC dual
format, whereas a single format drive was about £115. To my mind it just
keeps your options open.

Regards

Russell

"Marc Wielage" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:29:00 -0700, Acousticat wrote
> (in message >):
>
> > Hi, I was told that the +/- drives are made by Pioneer, but that they
aren't
> > that big of a deal/necessary. Would a person miss out on much by just
> > getting a DVD +R (+RW?) or a DVD -R?????
> >-----------------------------<snip>----------------------------<
>
> For a long time, Pioneer insisted that DVD+R wasn't necessary, and they
> heavily promoted their own DVD-R group that handed out literature showing
> that DVD-R discs will playback in most (if not all) DVD-ROM and DVD Video
> players. Philips insisted that DVD+R had better compatibility with
DVD-ROM
> players, but real-world tests showed the advantages were marginal at best
> (but were real in some cases).
>
> Pioneer finally threw in the towel a few months ago and came out with the
A06
> drive, which does handle DVD-R/DVD+R/DVD-RW/DVD+RW. Sony was the first to
> come out with a similar recorder. Either does a fine job at recording DVD
> material, and they both sell for comparable prices.
>
> Nowadays, I think it would make sense for users to get one drive that can
> handle all DVD recordable formats, simply to give you the best possible
> choice of blank media. The prices on DVD+R blanks have fallen quite a bit
in
> the last few months; even Pioneer's own 4X DVD+R blanks are under a buck
and
> a half, which is remarkable.
>
> Do a Yahoo search and you can find dozens and dozens of freeware software
> programs that will let you copy DVD videodiscs to DVD-R blanks. DVD X
Copy
> can be found at most computer retail stores (and online), but my guess is
> that most commercial DVD-copying software stands a huge risk of being
taken
> off the market, especially after the court ruling on CSS a week or two
ago.
>
> --MFW
>

[Roger W. Norman]

Well, I'm talking about a professional 3 1/3" CCD camera with Y/C and
composite video output, mixed with some product that will transfer the
imaging to the device along with stereo audio from FOH, not something with
an intermediary step. This is not a camcorder, just a really nice lens and
camera body. I've used it previously but it wasn't my concern at the time,
nor mine. I'm now going to purchase the camera and wish live video/audio to
go do a DVD burn and be playable.

If not the above, then the next best thing. I've just purchase a few JVC
SVHS/VHS duplicators for the video recording if it comes to that, video tape
being what we normally supply to the participants of this particular event.
I think DVD players are probably ubiquitous enough to include in the
planning now. But if I have to bring the tapes home, digitize them and burn
them it's too much time. I need to offer instant gratification! <g> Or
continue with the status quo.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK, so here's a question that's both on topic and off at the same time.
> Say
> > I want to be able to take a setup that would allow me to video a live
> > performance and concurrently have audio from the FOH board going to the
> same
> > setup, would it be possible to have a reasonably priced setup that would
> > have a finished DVD-Video ready within maybe 20 minutes after a
> performance
> > (assuming finalization times and me being busy with the next band)?
> >
> If your camera is capable of taking a feed from FOH, then the new HP DVD
> Movie Writer combined with a computer should be able to handle this. With
> about five mouse clicks, you can go from camera to DVD without any other
> input from the user.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/md6y
>
> Glenn D>
>
>

[Glenn Dowdy]

"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
> Well, I'm talking about a professional 3 1/3" CCD camera with Y/C and
> composite video output, mixed with some product that will transfer the
> imaging to the device along with stereo audio from FOH, not something with
> an intermediary step. This is not a camcorder, just a really nice lens
and
> camera body. I've used it previously but it wasn't my concern at the
time,
> nor mine. I'm now going to purchase the camera and wish live video/audio
to
> go do a DVD burn and be playable.
>

I can't find any of our engineers to see how the Movie Writer would work
with this set-up.

>

> If not the above, then the next best thing. I've just purchase a few JVC

> SVHS/VHS duplicators for the video recording if it comes to that, video
tape

> being what we normally supply to the participants of this particular
event.

> I think DVD players are probably ubiquitous enough to include in the

> planning now. But if I have to bring the tapes home, digitize them and
burn

> them it's too much time. I need to offer instant gratification! <g> Or

> continue with the status quo.

>

With the Movie Writer and a laptop, all you'd need to do is hookup the video
tape out to the writer via USB or RCA, hookup the writer to the PC via USB,
click a few mouse buttons, turn on the tape machine and start transferring.
With a 4x write rate, you wouldn't be delaying anyone's gratification.

Glenn D.

[Glenn Dowdy]

"Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
...
>
> Any other ideas?
>
Steal a production trailer from Monday Night Football?

Glenn D.

[Roger W. Norman]

It's going to be a situation whereby I'm going to need to transfer a FOH mix
to the same product, which means that it's either real time right then, or
real time some other time. If the answer is that it can't be done, then
that's fine. If the answer is that it can be done then I kinda need to
start looking at solutions. And nowhere in the scenario was I talking about
having an intermediate step of a computer. I do 90 45 minutes sets within 5
days of 13 or 14 hours sessions. It's got to be immediate or within a short
period. I can already take care of doing post.

Any other ideas?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, I'm talking about a professional 3 1/3" CCD camera with Y/C and
> > composite video output, mixed with some product that will transfer the
> > imaging to the device along with stereo audio from FOH, not something
with
> > an intermediary step. This is not a camcorder, just a really nice lens
> and
> > camera body. I've used it previously but it wasn't my concern at the
> time,
> > nor mine. I'm now going to purchase the camera and wish live
video/audio
> to
> > go do a DVD burn and be playable.
> >
>
> I can't find any of our engineers to see how the Movie Writer would work
> with this set-up.
>
> >
>
> > If not the above, then the next best thing. I've just purchase a few JVC
>
> > SVHS/VHS duplicators for the video recording if it comes to that, video
> tape
>
> > being what we normally supply to the participants of this particular
> event.
>
> > I think DVD players are probably ubiquitous enough to include in the
>
> > planning now. But if I have to bring the tapes home, digitize them and
> burn
>
> > them it's too much time. I need to offer instant gratification! <g> Or
>
> > continue with the status quo.
>
> >
>
> With the Movie Writer and a laptop, all you'd need to do is hookup the
video
> tape out to the writer via USB or RCA, hookup the writer to the PC via
USB,
> click a few mouse buttons, turn on the tape machine and start
transferring.
> With a 4x write rate, you wouldn't be delaying anyone's gratification.
>
> Glenn D.
>
>
>

[Roger W. Norman]

Well, if it takes that, then I already know how I will proceed! <g> Anybody
need some used parts from a Monday Night Football trailer?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
See how far $20 really goes.




"Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roger W. Norman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> Steal a production trailer from Monday Night Football?
>
> Glenn D.
>
>

[Jim Gilliland]

Glenn Dowdy wrote:
> "Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
> et...
>
>>.... mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer is
>>Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd get a
>>drive that handles both + and - formats
>
> So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the benefit
> is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are killing me. ;)

Gee, I hope not. I've always been a non-violent person. <g>

The benefit to the dual-format drive is protection from obsolescence.
If one or the other of the two formats dies off (so that you can no
longer buy media for it), the drive will still be usable. I don't see
any "limited duration" to that benefit.

I doubt that either format will disappear anytime soon, but it's hard to
predict the future.

Still, I'm not planning to replace my current drive. As I said, I'm
quite happy with it.

[Glenn Dowdy]

"Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
et...
> The benefit to the dual-format drive is protection from obsolescence.
> If one or the other of the two formats dies off (so that you can no
> longer buy media for it), the drive will still be usable. I don't see
> any "limited duration" to that benefit.

Both formats will eventually be replaced.
>
> I doubt that either format will disappear anytime soon, but it's hard to
> predict the future.

Well, I'm working with guys and gals who know the DVD future about two years
out and are working to create the future beyond that.
>
> Still, I'm not planning to replace my current drive. As I said, I'm
> quite happy with it.
>
Dang. Another satisfied customer for someone else.

Glenn D.

[shawn]

The reality is that the price difference between a dual-format drive and a
single-format drive isn't very much -- seems to be about $30-$50 street. To
me, the bigger bet on the future is to *not* spend the few extra bucks
(though I didn't realize the single-format drives could read both formats --
that certainly makes the decision a little less crucial). If a
single-format drive meets your needs and you want to save the $30-$50,
that's fine too. But it would suck if you later had an unforeseen want/need
to write to the other format (maybe you would and maybe you wouldn't, who's
to say?) and had to buy a separate drive. My feeling is that the difference
in price isn't enough to make me limit my options. If the price difference
were more significant, I might feel differently.



Roger W. Norman wrote:
> Actually, no. If you're buying a single format drive, you are
> betting that it will fulfill your requirements for it's cost and it's
> life cycle. Anything else would be gravy, and that you don't get
> anything else would simply be reality, but then again, that's what
> you bought it for in the first place.
>
> Let's not get off on a tangent. Describing one's wishes and one's
> requirements are two different things. Buying for the future is
> conceivably far more expensive if that future doesn't pan out.
> Fulfilling requirements seems to work today and tomorrow up until the
> time your requirements change.
>
> There's enough money spent in audio for all of us as it is. Betting
> on the future is for Wall Street.
>
>
> "shawn" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Glenn Dowdy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Jim Gilliland" > wrote in message
>>> et...
>>>> Roger W. Norman wrote:
>>>>> Don't you have one similar to my Pioneer (DVD-RAM/DVD-R)?
>>>>
>>>> No, mine is a DVD+R/RW. The brand is "Buslink", the manufacturer
>>>> is Ricoh. It's a nice drive, but if I were buying one today I'd
>>>> get a drive that handles both + and - formats
>>>
>>> So you'd pay extra for the dual format capability, even though the
>>> benefit is questionable and of limited duration? You guys are
>>> killing me. ;)
>>
>> The only sense in which the benefit is "questionable" is that you're
>> hedging your bets against the "unknowable". If you buy a single
>> format drive, you're betting on how long *your* format will survive.
>> If you buy a dual format drive, you're betting on how long *either*
>> format will survive. The gamble is that by spending a little extra
>> money, you might extend the usefulness of your purchase. Plus
>> you'll have the capability of exchanging data with other machines
>> that support one-or-the-other-but-not-both of the formats. Seems
>> pretty reasonable to me.

[James Perrett]

"Roger W. Norman" wrote:
>
> Well, I'm talking about a professional 3 1/3" CCD camera with Y/C and
> composite video output, mixed with some product that will transfer the
> imaging to the device along with stereo audio from FOH, not something with
> an intermediary step. This is not a camcorder, just a really nice lens and
> camera body. I've used it previously but it wasn't my concern at the time,
> nor mine. I'm now going to purchase the camera and wish live video/audio to
> go do a DVD burn and be playable.

Roger - remember that you are asking about the equivalent of using a
Neumann mic with a mini disk recorder. If you are buying a decent camera
then why not buy a recorder of similar quality rather than degrade the
video signal down to DVD quality?

Cheers.

James.