boom operating

[joco]

Hey,

A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
gear.
- When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
- How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
- How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
dialogs.
- General good-to-know information, experience...
- Any online articles or books regarding this topic.

Avaliable gear:
- Rode ntg-2
- Rode NT4
- Shure PG81
- Sennheiser e840
- Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
- Headphones
- Boom pole

Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)

Any information is welcome.

R

[Mark]

On Sep 18, 4:06*am, joco > wrote:
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
> audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
> information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
> gear.
> - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
> - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
> dialogs.
> - General good-to-know information, experience...
> - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> Avaliable gear:
> - Rode ntg-2
> - Rode NT4
> - Shure PG81
> - Sennheiser e840
> - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> - Headphones
> - Boom pole
>
> Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> Any information is welcome.
>
> R

try your question over at rec.arts.movies.production.sound

Mark

[Kompan]

On Sep 18, 3:21*pm, Mark > wrote:
> On Sep 18, 4:06*am, joco > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey,
>
> > A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
> > audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> > I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
> > information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
> > gear.
> > - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> > - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
> > - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
> > dialogs.
> > - General good-to-know information, experience...
> > - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> > Avaliable gear:
> > - Rode ntg-2
> > - Rode NT4
> > - Shure PG81
> > - Sennheiser e840
> > - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> > - Headphones
> > - Boom pole
>
> > Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> > Any information is welcome.
>
> > R
>
> try your question over at rec.arts.movies.production.sound
>
> Mark

Thanks, I will

[Wecan do it]

Try putting what you have on a pole and listening to your life
over some iso-headphones. You will teach yourself everything
you need to know.

peace
dawg
"joco" > wrote in message
...
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short
> movie with
> audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get
> as much
> information on how to get this done as good as possible with
> available
> gear.
> - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb
> inside.
> - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when
> recording
> dialogs.
> - General good-to-know information, experience...
> - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> Avaliable gear:
> - Rode ntg-2
> - Rode NT4
> - Shure PG81
> - Sennheiser e840
> - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> - Headphones
> - Boom pole
>
> Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> Any information is welcome.
>
> R

[nebulax]

On Sep 18, 4:06*am, joco > wrote:
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
> audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
> information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
> gear.
> - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
> - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
> dialogs.
> - General good-to-know information, experience...
> - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> Avaliable gear:
> - Rode ntg-2
> - Rode NT4
> - Shure PG81
> - Sennheiser e840
> - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> - Headphones
> - Boom pole
>
> Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> Any information is welcome.
>
> R


No book or video (or newsgroup) is really going to tell you everything
you need to know about doing location film sound. Having said that,
I've heard this DVD recommended by some other folks -
http://www.sound-room.com/inc/sdetail/4552

-Neb

[yrret]

Eh, I'll touch this question.

If you have a choice use something directional. You'll want to point it at
whoever's speaking at the moment as best you can as close as you can without
getting into frame. Its part of your task to be aware of your boundry.
(that means bug the cameraman, hey can you see this? Can you see it now?)
If its a reasonably professional outing the director and/or AD will ask
'sound?' before yelling action. Your response is 'speed' if your ready to
go. If a person is available its best if you have a guy pointing the mic
and another concentrating on the audio coming through without being
distracted by the set. Its amazing what you don't hear if your eyes are
occupied. At some point during the day, usually one of the last things
before moving on to another location is you'll want to capture room sound
for editing purposes. Again this is part of your task and you may have to
speak up and ensure its done. You'll ask everyone (the actors should be on
their marks) to stay still and quiet and record one minute of the room's
natural sound. This is useful and often essential in editing for smoothing
out audio edits. Good record keeping is important editing time can explode
if scenes can't be found and sync'd easily. Note unavoidable sounds as you
find them, leather seats or jackets, cuttlery, passing cars and planes, wind
noise. It may help the director/actors to know what ADR to prepare for as
soon as possible. Its also important to keep in mind the director will be
very focused on the visuals and won't notice if the audios good or bad until
in the editing room So it'll be all up to you to get it right. Don't be
afraid to make people wait on you. They'll hate you for ten minutes which
is better then weeks of ADR to fix what you didn't on site.

"joco" > wrote in message
...
> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
> audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
> information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
> gear.
> - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
> - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
> dialogs.
> - General good-to-know information, experience...
> - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> Avaliable gear:
> - Rode ntg-2
> - Rode NT4
> - Shure PG81
> - Sennheiser e840
> - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> - Headphones
> - Boom pole
>
> Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> Any information is welcome.
>
> R

[Kompan]

On Sep 20, 5:15*am, "yrret" > wrote:
> Eh, I'll touch this question.
>
> If you have a choice use something directional. *You'll want to point it at
> whoever's speaking at the moment as best you can as close as you can without
> getting into frame. *Its part of your task to be aware of your boundry.
> (that means bug the cameraman, hey can you see this? *Can you see it now?)
> If its a reasonably professional outing the director and/or AD will ask
> 'sound?' before yelling action. *Your response is 'speed' if your ready to
> go. *If a person is available its best if you have a guy pointing the mic
> and another concentrating on the audio coming through without being
> distracted by the set. *Its amazing what you don't hear if your eyes are
> occupied. * At some point during the day, usually one of the last things
> before moving on to another location is you'll want to capture room sound
> for editing purposes. *Again this is part of your task and you may have to
> speak up and ensure its done. *You'll ask everyone (the actors should be on
> their marks) to stay still and quiet and record one minute of the room's
> natural sound. *This is useful and often essential in editing for smoothing
> out audio edits. *Good record keeping is important editing time can explode
> if scenes can't be found and sync'd easily. *Note unavoidable sounds as you
> find them, leather seats or jackets, cuttlery, passing cars and planes, wind
> noise. *It may help the director/actors to know what ADR to prepare for as
> soon as possible. *Its also important to keep in mind the director will be
> very focused on the visuals and won't notice if the audios good or bad until
> in the editing room *So it'll be all up to you to get it right. *Don't be
> afraid to make people wait on you. *They'll hate you for ten minutes which
> is better then weeks of ADR to fix what you didn't on site.
>
> "joco" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Hey,
>
> > A friend of mine asked me to help him on a low budget short movie with
> > audio. I have some recording gear, mics and a boom pole.
> > I have some field recording experience, but I'd like to get as much
> > information on how to get this done as good as possible with available
> > gear.
> > - When to use what mic (shotgun, stereo, omni...).
> > - How to get as little background noise outside or reverb inside.
> > - How to hold and focus boom to get the best result when recording
> > dialogs.
> > - General good-to-know information, experience...
> > - Any online articles or books regarding this topic.
>
> > Avaliable gear:
> > - Rode ntg-2
> > - Rode NT4
> > - Shure PG81
> > - Sennheiser e840
> > - Tascam HD-P2 (phantom, time-code, limiter...)
> > - Headphones
> > - Boom pole
>
> > Do I need any more gear (like shock mount?)
>
> > Any information is welcome.
>
> > R

Wow, thank you for extensive information.
I can imagine convincing people to wait for me and bugging them when
necessary being the key to a good audio. I guess I'll have to put some
"convincing" books to my repertoire too. ;)