Roominators

[DaveDrummer]

Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc. What do
you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they help
trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks

Dave

[Jay Kadis]

In article > "DaveDrummer"
> writes:
> Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
> roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc. What do
> you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they help
> trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
>
> Dave
>

The sound in your room will probably be better, but the neighbors will still be
annoyed. Those kinds of treatments do nothing to contain the sound.

-jay

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[DaveDrummer]

hmm. I can imagine real soundproofing is very $ now. How about thoes
blankets or other isolation products?
\
Dave

"Ron Charles" > wrote in message
...
> They will help with deadening the room, but do not provide real
> soundproofing. Aurelex makes good products, but to do a real ound proofing
> job you will need a much more complex arrangement of isolation in the
walls
> and ceiling areas using a variety of prooven absorbtion materials like
Owens
> Corning Sound Absorbtive fibreglass, a few inches of dead air space, more
> isolation material and perhaps then use the Auralex to cover the walls.
>
> RON CHARLES
> "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
> > roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc. What
do
> > you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they
> help
> > trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>

[Scott Dorsey]

DaveDrummer > wrote:
>hmm. I can imagine real soundproofing is very $ now. How about thoes
>blankets or other isolation products?

Blankets are NOT isolation products.
--scott


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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Bill Lorentzen]

Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do to make
your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete new
very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
--
Bill L

"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
> roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc. What do
> you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they
help
> trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
>
> Dave
>
>

[DaveDrummer]

Yea, I do drum. But this is mostly for band practice. I do a lot of
home-recording and ive cut demos and things. Just from my bedroom and
wavelab. sounds pretty good. I would do it for my recording quality as well.
Do the roominator kits work well in a bedroom? meaning, I have a bed,
dressers, TV etc. Will these interfere with the treatment? sorry for such
novice questions guys.

Dave
"Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
...
> Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do to
make
> your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete new
> very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
> --
> Bill L
>
> "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
> > roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc. What
do
> > you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they
> help
> > trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>

[Mike Rivers]

In article > writes:

> hmm. I can imagine real soundproofing is very $ now.

Now? It always has been expensive. It's just that these days there are
more people asking about it so your chances of hearing about what it
really costs without hiring a consultant and getting a quote are
greater than ever.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

[Bill Lorentzen]

Yeah they will work OK. BTW, how does the room sound now?
--
Bill L

"DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
...
> Yea, I do drum. But this is mostly for band practice. I do a lot of
> home-recording and ive cut demos and things. Just from my bedroom and
> wavelab. sounds pretty good. I would do it for my recording quality as
well.
> Do the roominator kits work well in a bedroom? meaning, I have a bed,
> dressers, TV etc. Will these interfere with the treatment? sorry for such
> novice questions guys.
>
> Dave
> "Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do to
> make
> > your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete new
> > very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
> > --
> > Bill L
> >
> > "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes Auralex
> > > roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc.
What
> do
> > > you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will
they
> > help
> > > trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[DaveDrummer]

the room sounds ok now. Mainly due to the huge led zeppelin hangings and of
course my bed and furnature. The floor is a rug. Its not bad, but it could
be better.
"Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
...
> Yeah they will work OK. BTW, how does the room sound now?
> --
> Bill L
>
> "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yea, I do drum. But this is mostly for band practice. I do a lot of
> > home-recording and ive cut demos and things. Just from my bedroom and
> > wavelab. sounds pretty good. I would do it for my recording quality as
> well.
> > Do the roominator kits work well in a bedroom? meaning, I have a bed,
> > dressers, TV etc. Will these interfere with the treatment? sorry for
such
> > novice questions guys.
> >
> > Dave
> > "Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do
to
> > make
> > > your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete new
> > > very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
> > > --
> > > Bill L
> > >
> > > "DaveDrummer" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi, I need help with a bedroom. I am going to use one of thoes
Auralex
> > > > roominator kits on it. It has diffusors, panels, bass traps, etc.
> What
> > do
> > > > you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will
> they
> > > help
> > > > trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[WillStG]

<< >>
<< Do the roominator kits work well in a bedroom? >>

Dave, you have to understand that "Soundproofing" (keeping the sound from
leaking out of the room) and "Acoustic Treatment" (improving the listening
environment inside the room) are two different things.

The "Roominators" are intended to improve your listening environment, not
to isolate the room acoustically from your neighbors. You might build boxes
full of fiberglass/sand to stuff in your window frames, caulk all the cracks in
your walls well and get a heavier door as a start to isolating the room
acoustically.


Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Fox And Friends/Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

[xy]

to prevent sound from going into another room/neighbor, you need mass,
heaviness and air-tightness.

especially with low pitched sounds like bass guitar, the sound will
just walk right through and around your auralex stuff. sound is
"relentless" it wants to keep going. it doesn't like to "stop".
especially bass.

lower pitched sounds require more mass to block out the sound. a
fully-pro studio can have as much as 6 feet of blocking in all
directions. this involves a room-within-a-room, insulated, and
suspended on giant springs. then there is an airspace of several
feet. and then super thick walls beyond that.

heavy "real man" construction. not simple "wall decorations".

so do what you can, but remember the neighbors will hear your bass and
kick drum coming through. so get your speakers away from those walls
if you can, and try to mix at lower volumes and when you're doing
arranging and editing, use headphones and cut the bass down at times.

i find that smaller speakers work better at low volumes. giant
speakers need a good amount of sound to get to their sweet spot. so
look into a good set of small speakers and then maybe hooking up a sub
woofer that you can control the volume on.

when you say neighbors, i'm assuming an apartment situation with
adjacent walls?
if you're in a house and you're talking about the next yard over, then
annoying the neighbors is much more easily solved. you have more mass
and air-space separation options to work with.


> you guys think of these? I will be recording in the room, but will they help
> trap sound from escaping and annoying the neighbors also? thanks
>
> Dave

[Les Cargill]

dt king wrote:
>
> "Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do to
> make
> > your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete new
> > very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
>
> ... or get a midi drum set.
>
> dtk

This is like telling people "get a Real Doll instead of one
of those expensive wife things". `

--
Les Cargill

[dt king]

"Les Cargill" > wrote in message
...
> dt king wrote:
> >
> > "Bill Lorentzen" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Assuming you are a drummer, DaveDrummer, there is nothing you can do
to
> > make
> > > your neighbors not hear your playing, short of building a complete
new
> > > very-well-isolated room inside the existing room. Sorry.
> >
> > ... or get a midi drum set.

> This is like telling people "get a Real Doll instead of one
> of those expensive wife things". `

Might be the way to go, if you have to hide your wife from the neighbors.
Otherwise, you have to build a giant wife enclosure suspended on springs
and insulated by reflecting/absorbing layers.

dtk