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[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well.

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well.

There was something new to me in another group.

Meanwhile:

<http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/max-blumenthal-how-fanatical-rel
igio>

And sadomasochism--I know this sounds a little strange--is what defines
the essential character, you know, that--this is what--at least what I've
discovered--of the Republican follower of today. They're sadistic in that
they want to lash out at deviants, at people who are weaker than them,
homosexuals, immigrants, foreigners, socialists. At the same time,
they're masochistic. They are followers of a higher cause, of a strong
leader, a magic helper like Dobson or George W. Bush or the macho Jesus
archetype that they worship. And this is what defines this movement.

So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work
with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been
viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating
violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this
sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political
followers.

--

Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work
> with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been
> viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating
> violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this
> sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political
> followers.

I assume you're quoting Neiwert or Blumenthal.

I can't figure out what's being said. Since when does Dobson, loony
Bible-thumper though he is, "advocate violence against children"? According to
Wiki, Dobson received "'The Children's Friend' honor by Childhelp USA (an
advocate agency against child abuse) in 1987, and the Humanitarian Award by
the California Psychological Association in 1988."

Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts.

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work
> > with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been
> > viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating
> > violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this
> > sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political
> > followers.
>
> I assume you're quoting Neiwert or Blumenthal.
>
> I can't figure out what's being said. Since when does Dobson, loony
> Bible-thumper though he is, "advocate violence against children"? According to
> Wiki, Dobson received "'The Children's Friend' honor by Childhelp USA (an
> advocate agency against child abuse) in 1987, and the Humanitarian Award by
> the California Psychological Association in 1988."
>
> Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts.

It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted
selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his
best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking.

Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect
this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from
extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is
essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In
this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should
be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed
sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple
to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms.
This is a recipe for sadomasochism.
--

Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today
disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki
article on Dobson.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts.
>
> It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted
> selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his
> best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking.
>
> Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect
> this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from
> extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is
> essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In
> this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should
> be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed
> sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple
> to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms.
> This is a recipe for sadomasochism.


> Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today
> disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki
> article on Dobson.

Aren't we in canard territory here? I thought the "disciplinary" aspect of
child-beating was long discredited as window-dressing for sadism.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 5, 8:09*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:

> Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt.

Cheers.

[Bret L]

On Sep 5, 7:13 pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well.

That's like the pot calling the kettle black....

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 6, 1:24*am, Bret L > wrote:
> On Sep 5, 7:13 pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well.
>
> *That's like the pot calling the kettle black....

Or the pot calling the kettle calling the pot black in this case.

What college did you go to, Bratzi?

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > Maybe you can decode Neiwert's or Blumenthal's thoughts.
> >
> > It's Blumenthal, transcribed from a Democracy Now! interview. I quoted
> > selectively to emphasize the S&M bit. The child abuse claim is from his
> > best-selling book Dare to Discipline in which he advocates spanking.
> >
> > Blumenthal again: Where did Dobson's fortune come from? How did he erect
> > this empire? It came mainly from one book, which I quote from
> > extensively in my book, Republican Gomorrah--Dare to Discipline, which is
> > essentially a manual for corporal punishment, for beating your child. In
> > this book, he says pain is a marvelous purifier that a child should
> > be--that pain goes a long way with a child, that pain should be dispensed
> > sufficiently enough to make a child cry, but then the child will crumple
> > to your breast, and you should welcome the child with warm, open arms.
> > This is a recipe for sadomasochism.
>
>
> > Obviously parents differ on this, but "most child-care experts today
> > disapprove of physical punishment." says the NYT, quoted in the wiki
> > article on Dobson.
>
> Aren't we in canard territory here? I thought the "disciplinary" aspect of
> child-beating was long discredited as window-dressing for sadism.

If you want a book to justify it, Dobson has one to sell you. If you
write him for advice, he has a staff to reply to you and put you on his
mailing lists.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 6, 4:44*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Sep 5, 6:09*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article >,
> > *George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > > The Krooborg still appears to be mentally ill. Oh well.
>
> > There was something new to me in another group.
>
> > Meanwhile:
>
> > <http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/max-blumenthal-how-fanatical-rel
> > igio>
>
> > And sadomasochism--I know this sounds a little strange--is what defines
> > the essential character, you know, that--this is what--at least what I've
> > discovered--of the Republican follower of today. They're sadistic in that
> > they want to lash out at deviants, at people who are weaker than them,
> > homosexuals, immigrants, foreigners, socialists. At the same time,
> > they're masochistic. They are followers of a higher cause, of a strong
> > leader, a magic helper like Dobson or George W. Bush or the macho Jesus
> > archetype that they worship. And this is what defines this movement.
>
> > So many of the people that Dobson has been able to get close to and work
> > with in the Republican Congress and in American culture have been
> > viciously abused as children. And he understood that by advocating
> > violence against children, deliberate violence, he was creating this
> > sensibility, which would produce a radical generation of political
> > followers.
>
> > --
>
> > Here's hoping those who've gone Galt stay Galt.
>
> Poor Stephen,
> * His hope is that someone will one day notice, he's been
> gone Galt his whole life.

And now Stephen's hope is unfullfilled: 2pid couldn't stay Galt. He
(like Bratzi) feels some pathological need to 'enlighten' us. LoL.