Need Help Acoustic Isolation for my "mic box"

[Ross]

Hello!
I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
This is the box, still unfinished:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
to have a good acoustic response from my box?
I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
http://snipurl.com/rjhza
and this
http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've found
this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]

Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)

[Mike Rivers]

On Sep 2, 7:05 am, Ross > wrote:

> I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
> small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
> In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
> Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation

Build it out of bricks. Foam is for reducing reflections, it doesn't
provide isolation.

> and how to have a good acoustic response from my box?

Make it large enough so that you don't have to make it dead. Honestly,
I'd suggest that you work this out with your housemates so that you
record when they're not home. That way you don't have to worry about
bothering anyone but your neighbors (which is a different problem).

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:

>Hello!
>I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
>small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
>This is the box, still unfinished:
>http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
>In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
>Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
>to have a good acoustic response from my box?
>I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
>http://snipurl.com/rjhza
>and this
>http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
>but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've found
>this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]
>
>Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)

Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
soft, so much the better.

Don't forget ventilation - make a sort of tunnel that goes round a
couple of sides of the box, line it with foam and it will not let too
much noise out. For a window, double glaze it with glass or thickish
plastic.

Once all that is done, you can attend to the internal acoustics. That
foam may be good, but expensive. A cheaper alternative would be to buy
some fibreglass thermal insulation panels. Space them a couple of
inches from the wall, and they will perform perfectly. They will need
covering with some fine cloth like muslin or cheesecloth to stop bits
of glass floating around the box.

d

[Karamako[_2_]]

Ross wrote:
> Hello!
> I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making
> a small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
> This is the box, still unfinished:
> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
> In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
> Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
> to have a good acoustic response from my box?
> I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
> http://snipurl.com/rjhza
> and this
> http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
> but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've
> found this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]
>
> Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)

You should visit this forum, there is a lot of info there and good advices :
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php

[hank alrich]

Don Pearce > wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
> >small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
> >This is the box, still unfinished:
> >http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
> >In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
> >Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
> >to have a good acoustic response from my box?
> >I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
> >http://snipurl.com/rjhza
> >and this
> >http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
> >but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've found
> >this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]
> >
> >Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)
>
> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
> soft, so much the better.
>
> Don't forget ventilation - make a sort of tunnel that goes round a
> couple of sides of the box, line it with foam and it will not let too
> much noise out. For a window, double glaze it with glass or thickish
> plastic.
>
> Once all that is done, you can attend to the internal acoustics. That
> foam may be good, but expensive. A cheaper alternative would be to buy
> some fibreglass thermal insulation panels. Space them a couple of
> inches from the wall, and they will perform perfectly. They will need
> covering with some fine cloth like muslin or cheesecloth to stop bits
> of glass floating around the box.
>
> d

For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass obsolete. It's a
pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks good enough uncovered, comes in
a variety of thicknesses and colors, and has absorption coefficients
exceeding that of fiberglass.

--
ha
shut up and play your guitar

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 06:26:41 -0700, (hank alrich)
wrote:

>Don Pearce > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>>
>> >Hello!
>> >I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
>> >small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
>> >This is the box, still unfinished:
>> >http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
>> >In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
>> >Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
>> >to have a good acoustic response from my box?
>> >I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
>> >http://snipurl.com/rjhza
>> >and this
>> >http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
>> >but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've found
>> >this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]
>> >
>> >Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)
>>
>> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
>> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
>> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
>> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
>> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
>> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
>> soft, so much the better.
>>
>> Don't forget ventilation - make a sort of tunnel that goes round a
>> couple of sides of the box, line it with foam and it will not let too
>> much noise out. For a window, double glaze it with glass or thickish
>> plastic.
>>
>> Once all that is done, you can attend to the internal acoustics. That
>> foam may be good, but expensive. A cheaper alternative would be to buy
>> some fibreglass thermal insulation panels. Space them a couple of
>> inches from the wall, and they will perform perfectly. They will need
>> covering with some fine cloth like muslin or cheesecloth to stop bits
>> of glass floating around the box.
>>
>> d
>
>For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass obsolete. It's a
>pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks good enough uncovered, comes in
>a variety of thicknesses and colors, and has absorption coefficients
>exceeding that of fiberglass.

Doesn't appear to be available in the UK.

d

[Ross]

Don Pearce ha scritto:
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
[cut]
>
> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
> soft, so much the better.
thank you for your answer!
Using pressed Polyurethane to put internally between wood and the taming
internal reflections could be a good idea?
http://snipurl.com/rjmxs
or high density foam like this?
http://snipurl.com/rjn0i

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:

>Don Pearce ha scritto:
>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>[cut]
>>
>> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
>> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
>> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
>> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
>> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
>> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
>> soft, so much the better.
>thank you for your answer!
>Using pressed Polyurethane to put internally between wood and the taming
>internal reflections could be a good idea?
>http://snipurl.com/rjmxs
>or high density foam like this?
>http://snipurl.com/rjn0i

Foam between the wood and the plasterboard will do almost nothing. It
is in preventing these solid pieces from moving that you achieve sound
isolation, and it will be transmitted through the solid structure, not
the air in the gap.

You will need to tame the internal reflections inside the box/room
though, or it will sound just horrible. High frequencies are easy, it
is the lows that will be most difficult. The Acousticotton that Hank
found looks great, but to make it work down to the lowest male voice
range, it will need to be two inches thick, and spaced away from the
wall by another two inches.

It will not need to cover the whole of the inside though. You will
have to experiment hanging panels of it up and analysing the result.
Unfortunately the smaller a room is, the more dead you must make it
before you have killed all the problem modes, so there may not be a
great deal of natural acoustics left by the time you are finished.

d

[Ross]

Don Pearce ha scritto:
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>> [cut]
>>> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
>>> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
>>> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
>>> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
>>> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
>>> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
>>> soft, so much the better.
>> thank you for your answer!
>> Using pressed Polyurethane to put internally between wood and the taming
>> internal reflections could be a good idea?
>> http://snipurl.com/rjmxs
>> or high density foam like this?
>> http://snipurl.com/rjn0i
>
> Foam between the wood and the plasterboard will do almost nothing. It
> is in preventing these solid pieces from moving that you achieve sound
> isolation, and it will be transmitted through the solid structure, not
> the air in the gap.

Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
:-)
Thanks again for helping me!

[Arny Krueger]

"hank alrich" > wrote in message


> For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass
> obsolete. It's a pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks
> good enough uncovered, comes in a variety of thicknesses
> and colors, and has absorption coefficients exceeding
> that of fiberglass.

Comparisons of various alternatives:

http://johnlsayers.com/Stuff/AbsorptionCoefficients.htm

The cotton does look good.

[Ross]

Ross ha scritto:
> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:

> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
> http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
> :-)

I forgot to say a very important thing: I'll use headphones only, not
speakers. Sorry, I'm very tired

[Ross]

Arny Krueger ha scritto:
> "hank alrich" > wrote in message
>
>
>> For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass
>> obsolete. It's a pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks
>> good enough uncovered, comes in a variety of thicknesses
>> and colors, and has absorption coefficients exceeding
>> that of fiberglass.
>
> Comparisons of various alternatives:
>
> http://johnlsayers.com/Stuff/AbsorptionCoefficients.htm
>
> The cotton does look good.
>
>
thanks. Unfortunately in europe I can't found this :-(

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:37:49 +0200, Ross > wrote:

>Don Pearce ha scritto:
>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>>
>>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>>> [cut]
>>>> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
>>>> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
>>>> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
>>>> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
>>>> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
>>>> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
>>>> soft, so much the better.
>>> thank you for your answer!
>>> Using pressed Polyurethane to put internally between wood and the taming
>>> internal reflections could be a good idea?
>>> http://snipurl.com/rjmxs
>>> or high density foam like this?
>>> http://snipurl.com/rjn0i
>>
>> Foam between the wood and the plasterboard will do almost nothing. It
>> is in preventing these solid pieces from moving that you achieve sound
>> isolation, and it will be transmitted through the solid structure, not
>> the air in the gap.
>
>Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
>http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
>:-)
>Thanks again for helping me!

No - that will be good for stopping reflections inside the box. It
will not be good for preventing noise from getting out of the box. For
that you need a solid, heavy construction. Foam does not work.

d

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:39:41 +0200, Ross > wrote:

>Ross ha scritto:
>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
>> http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
>> :-)
>
>I forgot to say a very important thing: I'll use headphones only, not
>speakers. Sorry, I'm very tired

How do you mean? Will you be standing in the box singing with a
microphone, while wearing headphones to listen to the backing track?
If so, then all I have written is still valid.

d

[GregS[_3_]]

In article >, Ross > wrote:
>Ross ha scritto:
>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
>> http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
>> :-)
>
>I forgot to say a very important thing: I'll use headphones only, not
>speakers. Sorry, I'm very tired


That was my question. Bass on a 30 watt amp. Cinderblock.

greg

[KGT]

On Sep 2, 11:37*am, Ross > wrote:
> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
> >> Don Pearce ha scritto:
> >>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
> >> [cut]
> >>> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
> >>> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
> >>> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
> >>> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
> >>> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
> >>> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
> >>> soft, so much the better.
> >> thank you for your answer!
> >> Using pressed Polyurethane to put internally between wood and the taming
> >> internal reflections could be a good idea?
> >>http://snipurl.com/rjmxs
> >> or high density foam like this?
> >>http://snipurl.com/rjn0i
>
> > Foam between the wood and the plasterboard will do almost nothing. It
> > is in preventing these solid pieces from moving that you achieve sound
> > isolation, and it will be transmitted through the solid structure, not
> > the air in the gap.
>
> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
> :-)
> Thanks again for helping me!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why work so hard :) Just avoid the problem up front. Get a bass
practicing headphone amp / sanamp interface etc

[hank alrich]

Don Pearce > wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 06:26:41 -0700, (hank alrich)
> wrote:
>
> >Don Pearce > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:05:37 +0200, Ross > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hello!
> >> >I live with other people, I don't want to disturb them, so I'm making a
> >> >small box to sing and record my voice in my apartment.
> >> >This is the box, still unfinished:
> >> >http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6719/resizeimga0465.jpg
> >> >In the future probably I'll buy a bass with a 30 watt amplifier.
> >> >Please could you tell me how to make a good acoustic isolation and how
> >> >to have a good acoustic response from my box?
> >> >I was deciding for foam panels with *0.74 NRC* , I've found this
> >> >http://snipurl.com/rjhza
> >> >and this
> >> >http://snipurl.com/rjhzr
> >> >but I don't know wich is better, and for the floor isolation I've found
> >> >this: http://snipurl.com/rji0g [redirectingat_com]
> >> >
> >> >Please help me, I don't want waste money :-)
> >>
> >> Those foams aren't for isolation, they are for taming internal
> >> reflections. To stop sound getting out the walls of the box need to be
> >> stiff and heavy - it looks like they are neither of those right now..
> >> More frequent studding would be good, and an extra layer of
> >> plasterboard outside should go a long way to stop your voice. Treat
> >> the base of the box the same way, and if you can stand it on something
> >> soft, so much the better.
> >>
> >> Don't forget ventilation - make a sort of tunnel that goes round a
> >> couple of sides of the box, line it with foam and it will not let too
> >> much noise out. For a window, double glaze it with glass or thickish
> >> plastic.
> >>
> >> Once all that is done, you can attend to the internal acoustics. That
> >> foam may be good, but expensive. A cheaper alternative would be to buy
> >> some fibreglass thermal insulation panels. Space them a couple of
> >> inches from the wall, and they will perform perfectly. They will need
> >> covering with some fine cloth like muslin or cheesecloth to stop bits
> >> of glass floating around the box.
> >>
> >> d
> >
> >For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass obsolete. It's a
> >pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks good enough uncovered, comes in
> >a variety of thicknesses and colors, and has absorption coefficients
> >exceeding that of fiberglass.
>
> Doesn't appear to be available in the UK.
>
> d

Doesn't surprise me. Hell, it's not the widely distributed in the US
yet. I can buy it easily in Austin TX, but here in Plumas County CA I'm
looking at needing to order from Seattle WA or Phoenix AZ.

Still, I'm willing to do that. It's an immensely superior product in my
view.

--
ha
shut up and play your guitar

[Ross]

Don Pearce ha scritto:
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:39:41 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>
>> Ross ha scritto:
>>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>>> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
>>> http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
>>> :-)
>> I forgot to say a very important thing: I'll use headphones only, not
>> speakers. Sorry, I'm very tired
>
> How do you mean? Will you be standing in the box singing with a
> microphone, while wearing headphones to listen to the backing track?
> If so, then all I have written is still valid.
>
> d
yes. exactly as you said:-)

[Ross]

GregS ha scritto:
> In article >, Ross > wrote:
>> Ross ha scritto:
>>> Don Pearce ha scritto:
>>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:15:11 +0200, Ross > wrote:
>>> Sorry, I expressed badly. I intended ask if is a good idea make this:
>>> http://img299.imageshack.us/i/projectg.jpg/
>>> :-)
>> I forgot to say a very important thing: I'll use headphones only, not
>> speakers. Sorry, I'm very tired
>
>
> That was my question. Bass on a 30 watt amp. Cinderblock.
>

it is only a possibility, I'm still not sure. :-)

[Ross]

hank alrich ha scritto:
> Don Pearce > wrote:
>
[cut]
>
> For my use Acousticotton has rendered fiberglass obsolete. It's a
> pleasure to work with, non-toxic, looks good enough uncovered, comes in
> a variety of thicknesses and colors, and has absorption coefficients
> exceeding that of fiberglass.
>
At least, I'll try to found an Acousticotton clone or something similar
in europe, even if I think it will be very hard.
BTW thank you at all for the precious help:-)

[Steve L.[_3_]]

(hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5evxb.1kjijbmlh0vulN%
:

> but here in Plumas County

sorry to but in with no help but I drove right past there today on my way
to Jury Duty ... just had to say something.

[hank alrich]

Steve L. > wrote:

> (hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5evxb.1kjijbmlh0vulN%
> :
>
> > but here in Plumas County
>
> sorry to but in with no help but I drove right past there today on my way
> to Jury Duty ... just had to say something.

Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.

--
ha
shut up and play your guitar

[Arkansan Raider]

hank alrich wrote:
> Steve L. > wrote:
>
>> (hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5evxb.1kjijbmlh0vulN%
>> :
>>
>>> but here in Plumas County
>> sorry to but in with no help but I drove right past there today on my way
>> to Jury Duty ... just had to say something.
>
> Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
> Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.
>

Small world. For part of my childhood, I lived in Chico.

---Jeff

[Steve L.[_3_]]

(hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5flwm.e0mb581kdcpmkN%
:

> Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
> Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.
>

Hey Hank ! I live on the Lake Almanor peninsula... I was heading to Quincy
for Jury Duty Selection ... I didn't get picked . damn... well I'm off the
hook for a year at least. But I digress...

I used to ride my bicycle around the loop there .. I forget the name of
the road now.

I moved back here a few years ago after having moved to Monterey. Well ...
I read this group everyday and I'm familiar with the regulars though I
don't post much having little to contribute.. If i didn't recognize you
as a regular I wouldn't have posted anything. I thought it was pretty cool
to see a regular so close to me.
Cheers

[Don Pearce[_3_]]

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:54:44 -0700, (hank alrich)
wrote:

>Steve L. > wrote:
>
>> (hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5evxb.1kjijbmlh0vulN%
>> :
>>
>> > but here in Plumas County
>>
>> sorry to but in with no help but I drove right past there today on my way
>> to Jury Duty ... just had to say something.
>
>Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
>Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.

So, I've probably driven past your house. I was staying with some
friends in Incline Village down on Tahoe, and we went driving north
from Reno - Pyramid Lake and Almanor as well. I can't remember the
roads we used, but it is very likely one of them was yours.

The world is small.

d

[hank alrich]

Steve L. > wrote:

> (hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5flwm.e0mb581kdcpmkN%
> :
>
> > Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
> > Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.
> >
>
> Hey Hank ! I live on the Lake Almanor peninsula... I was heading to Quincy
> for Jury Duty Selection ... I didn't get picked . damn... well I'm off the
> hook for a year at least. But I digress...
>
> I used to ride my bicycle around the loop there .. I forget the name of
> the road now.
>
> I moved back here a few years ago after having moved to Monterey. Well ...
> I read this group everyday and I'm familiar with the regulars though I
> don't post much having little to contribute.. If i didn't recognize you
> as a regular I wouldn't have posted anything. I thought it was pretty cool
> to see a regular so close to me.
> Cheers

Cool, Steve. I've performed in Chester three times this summer - in June
at B&B Booksellers/Backroom Gallery with my daughter Shaidri and my
Snake Oil pals, Susie Wilson and Ken Cawley, solo there in August, both
for the Second Fridays parties, and at the A Few Brews & A Banjo benefit
to raise money for the Chester high school music program.

I did sound for several years (back in the '90's) for the summer concert
series at LACC.

An excellent jazz bassist recently moved right into your neighborhood.
Haven't gotten to play with him yet, but he has my SWR Baby Blue on
loan. He's a terrific upright player with serious chops and enjoys any
kind of "good" music. I'm looking forward to getting together with him.

I've done jury duty, twice. We found 'em both guilty. Been called maybe
five times, and either not had my name drawn or been dismissed by the
defense's preemptive challenge. I found the process scary. People bring
some weird ideas to the table. Our "peers" can be "interesting".

Drop me an email. The address from which I post is valid. I met Kurt
Albershardt via RAP, when he used to live in Reno. He moved to Silver
City NM where he is now restoring the Murray Hotel. Gotta go through
there next time I drive to Texas.

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ha
shut up and play your guitar

[hank alrich]

Don Pearce > wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:54:44 -0700, (hank alrich)
> wrote:
>
> >Steve L. > wrote:
> >
> >> (hank alrich)so you saynews:1j5evxb.1kjijbmlh0vulN%
> >> :
> >>
> >> > but here in Plumas County
> >>
> >> sorry to but in with no help but I drove right past there today on my way
> >> to Jury Duty ... just had to say something.
> >
> >Well, Howdy, Steve! Where were you headed? I live three miles outside of
> >Greenville, which is on Highway 89 between Quincy and Lake Almanor.
>
> So, I've probably driven past your house. I was staying with some
> friends in Incline Village down on Tahoe, and we went driving north
> from Reno - Pyramid Lake and Almanor as well. I can't remember the
> roads we used, but it is very likely one of them was yours.
>
> The world is small.
>
> d

If you do that again, Don, drop me an email. I post form a valid address
(and give thanks to Postini and Apple Mail's spam traps <g>).

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ha
shut up and play your guitar