MKH 816 - camera mounted for sports?

[Ty Ford]

I'm hearing that the 816 is being used as a camera-mounted mic for some
exterior spots events. Does anyone here do this? how do you mount them and
what sort of wind protection do you use?

Thanks,

Ty Ford


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[Scott Dorsey]

Ty Ford > wrote:
>I'm hearing that the 816 is being used as a camera-mounted mic for some
>exterior spots events. Does anyone here do this? how do you mount them and
>what sort of wind protection do you use?

This seems like a very misguided idea to me.

The 816 does okay outside in a Rycote blimp, though. There would be no
problem with the blimp on a 1/4" adaptor physically. I wouldn't expect
good sound, though.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[rich]

ive seen on some of the pitchside camera at soccer games, an 816 in a
full rycote zep mounted alongside the big lens they have on OB
cameras.
agree it probably wont sound too great but no doubt helps to add the
ambience

[Arkansan Raider]

Soundhaspriority wrote:

> Zep use is mandatory.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511
>

I agree wholeheartedly. Preferably the Zoso album.

---Jeff

[Chris Newton]

On Aug 20, 12:34*pm, rich > wrote:
> ive seen on some of the pitchside camera at soccer games, an 816 in a
> full rycote zep mounted alongside the big lens they have on OB
> cameras.
> agree it probably wont sound too great but no doubt helps to add the
> ambience

I've seen this too on soccer games. Only ever did remote truck live
mixing once for soccer. the 816 (or MKH 70) was routed through the
camera's triax cabling I believe (engineering set it up). Worked OK
for sideline cams, added a bit of FX when action was near cam.
Slightly off-topic: anyone know how Italian Serie A games are miced?
Seems they get a lot of on-field FX sound, more than other leagues.
Maybe using referees mic?
Chris Newton

[berniebeaudry]

On Aug 20, 10:59*am, Ty Ford > wrote:
> I'm hearing that the 816 is being used as a camera-mounted mic for some
> exterior spots events. Does anyone here do this? how do you mount them and
> what sort of wind protection do you use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA

I do a lot of sports A2 work and have seen an 816 or similar Audio
Technica long shotgun used on cameras quite often. On a handheld
broadcast camera they put the foam windscreen on, and either use small
bungee cords, or tape (protecting the windscreen from the sticky side)
and put it on top of the carrying handle. Usually a shorter gun is
used on these cameras though and that is mounted in the onboard mic
clamp that's on the camera . The foam screen is inside the clamp and
provides a bit of shock mounting utility. The long guns are usually
used on the large hard cameras (they're usually farther away from the
action) and with the foam windscreen get mounted on top of the big
lenses with either a bungee or tape. Its rare that a zeppelin is used
as most tv trucks wouldn't spend that kind of money on wind protection
for effects mics (which are usually picking very loud sounds) so
they're not using much gain and they don't worry too much about wind.
Effects mics are usually sonic wallpaper in sports so fidelity isn't a
huge concern. In golf (just did the recent PGA tournament in
Minnesota they do use 816s in Rycotes and furry's but of course its a
much quieter sport than football or baseball etc.
Regards,
Bernie

[Electricbacfac]

In my experience all televised football matches in UK have an 816 in a
full Rycote taped to the large lens on the pitch side camera.

It is actually very useful as it is generally always pointing in the
right direction.

I've found after a referee mic, (in rugby) and in addition to a stereo
pair for general stereo image, the long mic on pitch side camera
catches most of the mid pitch action.

A 416 behind each goal covers the ends of the pitch and then every
other mic on the touch line is a bonus.

Not seen an 816 on a hand held camera. Or ever without a full Rycote
kit in UK.