Leadership question for 2pid

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
the US needs reform.

Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?

What would *you* do, 2pid?

[vinyl anachronist]

On Aug 13, 1:51�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> the US needs reform.
>
> Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> What would *you* do, 2pid?

Check on Sarah Palin's tweets.

[vinyl anachronist]

On Aug 13, 5:24�pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 1:51�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> > the US needs reform.
>
> > Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> > that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> > right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> �He should go back to the drawing board and propose health care
> reform that will really accomplish the latter.
> His current "proposal" which appears to be more designed to start the
> slippery slope to single payer than "reforming" health care isn't it
> IMO.
> Polls show most people agree.

I saw a poll today where 71% say they would NEVER vote for Sarah Palin
for president under ANY circumstances. How do you like them apples?
Polls tend to tell people what they want to hear. It's the complete
opposite of having critical thinking skills. It's very predictable
that you rely so heavily on them to make your points.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 13, 7:24*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 1:51*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> > the US needs reform.
>
> > Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> > that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> > right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> *He should go back to the drawing board and propose health care
> reform that will really accomplish the latter.
> His current "proposal" which appears to be more designed to start the
> slippery slope to single payer than "reforming" health care isn't it
> IMO.
> Polls show most people agree.

Wasn't it you who bemoaned those who lead by following polls?

Asked another way: do people who bend their positions to the polls
exhibit "leadership" in your view?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 13, 9:41*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 6:35*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

> > wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 7:24*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 13, 1:51*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> > > > the US needs reform.
>
> > > > Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> > > > that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> > > > right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> > > *He should go back to the drawing board and propose health care
> > > reform that will really accomplish the latter.
> > > His current "proposal" which appears to be more designed to start the
> > > slippery slope to single payer than "reforming" health care isn't it
> > > IMO.
> > > Polls show most people agree.
>
> > Wasn't it you who bemoaned those who lead by following polls?
>
> * Yup. *But this issue is different.
> * Polls show Americans support health care reform.
> * They just know that what congress has proposed doesn't do what Obama
> claims.

They know all of that?

I find that whopper hard to believe. This is the same public whose
stupidity you've wailed about for years. This is the same public that
threw out your beloved republicans.

This is the same public that you're a part of. You're not smart enough
to figure anything out. LoL.

<snip blog>

> > Asked another way: do people who bend their positions to the polls
> > exhibit "leadership" in your view?
>
> *No. *And clearly Obama isn't leading America on this issue, he is
> misleading America.

What a perfectly dumb 'differing POV'. 'Clearly' duh.

[vinyl anachronist]

On Aug 13, 7:34�pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Aug 13, 6:04�pm, vinyl anachronist >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 13, 1:51 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> > > > the US needs reform.
>
> > > > Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> > > > that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> > > > right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> > > He should go back to the drawing board and propose health care
> > > reform that will really accomplish the latter.
> > > His current "proposal" which appears to be more designed to start the
> > > slippery slope to single payer than "reforming" health care isn't it
> > > IMO.
> > > Polls show most people agree.
>
> > I saw a poll today where 71% say they would NEVER vote for Sarah Palin
> > for president under ANY circumstances. How do you like them apples?
>
> If the vote was tomorrow, I'd be one of them.
>
> > Polls tend to tell people what they want to hear.
>
> �LoL. �I guess that's not working for you right now.
>
> > �It's the complete
> > opposite of having critical thinking skills. It's very predictable
> > that you rely so heavily on them to make your points.
>
> �Utter nonsense but it is amusing to see the ridiculous
> depths of silliness you will go to to try to insult me.

Death panels. Oy.

[vinyl anachronist]

On Aug 13, 8:45�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 9:41�pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 6:35�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > wrote:
> > > On Aug 13, 7:24�pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 13, 1:51�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > It's quite clear to those with brains that the health care system in
> > > > > the US needs reform.
>
> > > > > Should President Obama quit pushing for it in the face of poll numbers
> > > > > that show the "will of the people", or should he do what he feels is
> > > > > right and necessary for the long-term good of the country?
>
> > > > �He should go back to the drawing board and propose health care
> > > > reform that will really accomplish the latter.
> > > > His current "proposal" which appears to be more designed to start the
> > > > slippery slope to single payer than "reforming" health care isn't it
> > > > IMO.
> > > > Polls show most people agree.
>
> > > Wasn't it you who bemoaned those who lead by following polls?
>
> > � Yup. �But this issue is different.
> > � Polls show Americans support health care reform.
> > � They just know that what congress has proposed doesn't do what Obama
> > claims.
>
> They know all of that?
>
> I find that whopper hard to believe. This is the same public whose
> stupidity you've wailed about for years. This is the same public that
> threw out your beloved republicans.
>
> This is the same public that you're a part of. You're not smart enough
> to figure anything out. LoL.
>
> <snip blog>
>
> > > Asked another way: do people who bend their positions to the polls
> > > exhibit "leadership" in your view?
>
> > �No. �And clearly Obama isn't leading America on this issue, he is
> > misleading America.
>
> What a perfectly dumb 'differing POV'. 'Clearly' duh.

Death panels. ****in' death panels.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 13, 10:55*pm, vinyl anachronist >
wrote:
> On Aug 13, 8:45 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 9:41 pm, ScottW2 > wrote:

> > > No. And clearly Obama isn't leading America on this issue, he is
> > > misleading America.
>
> > What a perfectly dumb 'differing POV'. 'Clearly' duh.
>
> Death panels. ****in' death panels.

That one has 2pid's little paws clacking on the linoleum in fear. He's
outside now. There's only so much peeing on the floor that one's
master can take.