signal from radio mic receiver

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Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
bodypack receiver? Is it line or mic? Usually I run the receiver into
my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
great. What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to? Thanks heaps
in advance
Matty

[Laurence Payne[_2_]]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:21:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
>bodypack receiver? Is it line or mic? Usually I run the receiver into
>my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
>great. What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
>has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to? Thanks heaps

I could look up the manual for you. But if it suits a line input on
your mixer, what makes you think it wouldn't suit a line input on your
camera?

[Richard Crowley]

wrote:
> Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
> bodypack receiver?

Without a model number, we would be guessing and that would
hardly be helpful to you.

> Is it line or mic?

What does it say on the receiver? What does it say in the manual?

> Usually I run the receiver into
> my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
> great.

Then from your anecdotal evidence, it would appear to be line-level.

> What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
> has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to?

If it works properly into the line-level input of your mixer, it would
seem logical to assume that it would work properly into the line-level
input of your camera. Again, since you have not identified either the
receiver or the camera, we are restricted to making educated guesses.

Of course, it takes only a few seconds to actually do the experiment
and try the camera input level switch in both positions (mic and line).

[Scott Dorsey]

> wrote:
>Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
>bodypack receiver? Is it line or mic?

Depends which bodypack it is, and how it's configured.

>Usually I run the receiver into
>my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
>great.

That sounds like a line level output, then.

What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
>has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to? Thanks heaps
>in advance

It sounds like it's a line level output, more or less. Use your ears and
set it so that the meters move properly but you don't hear clipping.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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On Jul 17, 7:23*pm, Laurence Payne > wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:21:12 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
> >Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
> >bodypack receiver? Is it line or mic? Usually I run the receiver into
> >my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
> >great. What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
> >has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to? Thanks heaps
>
> I could look up the manual for you. *But if it suits a line input on
> your mixer, what makes you think it wouldn't suit a line input on your
> camera?

Hi there Laurence. Thanks for your reply, and yes, good point. Its
just that I did a test the other day and ran my radio mic receiver
straight into the camera and selected the 'line' level switch on the
camera. The level going into the camera was very, very low. I adjusted
the output of the receiver to 12db (maximum level) which improved it
but still not fantastic. Maybe its the camera - its a Sony HVRA1P
single chip. Not exactly broadcast quality I know. What do you think
Laurence? Thanks. Matty

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On Jul 17, 11:59*pm, "Richard Crowley" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
> > bodypack receiver?
>
> Without a model number, we would be guessing and that would
> hardly be helpful to you.
>
> > *Is it line or mic?
>
> What does it say on the receiver? *What does it say in the manual?
>
> > Usually I run the receiver into
> > my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
> > great.
>
> Then from your anecdotal evidence, it would appear to be line-level.
>
> > What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
> > has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to?
>
> If it works properly into the line-level input of your mixer, it would
> seem logical to assume that it would work properly into the line-level
> input of your camera. *Again, since you have not identified either the
> receiver or the camera, we are restricted to making educated guesses.
>
> Of course, it takes only a few seconds to actually do the experiment
> and try the camera input level switch in both positions (mic and line).

Hi there Richard. Thanks mate for your reply. The model number on the
receiver is EK 100 G2. I looked at the manual but couldnt find
anything there on the particular type of signal coming out of this
receiver. The camera I tested on the other day is a Sony HVR1P,
single chip. I know, not exactly broadcast quality but still has the
XLR inputs with mic/line selection. I did do a test with both mic and
line settings into the camera. When the camera was set to mic input,
the level was horribly overdriven as I new would be the case. When I
selected the line in position on the camera, the audio was very, very
low. I was abke to fix this a bit by gaining the output level of the
receiver to +12db, but still wasnt fantastic. Sorry to blabber on but
I am new to this and am wanting to acheive the best possible results I
can. Thanks again Richard.

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On Jul 18, 12:08*am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> > wrote:
> >Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
> >bodypack receiver? Is it line or mic?
>
> Depends which bodypack it is, and how it's configured.
>
> >Usually I run the receiver into
> >my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
> >great.
>
> That sounds like a line level output, then.
>
> What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
>
> >has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to? Thanks heaps
> >in advance
>
> It sounds like it's a line level output, more or less. *Use your ears and
> set it so that the meters move properly but you don't hear clipping.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. *C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Hi there Scott. Thanks for your reply. Its an EK 100 G2 bodypack
receiver. Yes I think you may be right in that its a line level
output. Its just that when I set my camera to line level input, the
level was very, very low. The camera I have is a Sony HVRA1P single
chip. I know, not exactly broadcast quality but still acceptable...I
think :)

[hank alrich]

> wrote:

> On Jul 17, 11:59 pm, "Richard Crowley" > wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all. Heres my question. What signal is coming out of a Sennheiser
> > > bodypack receiver?
> >
> > Without a model number, we would be guessing and that would
> > hardly be helpful to you.
> >
> > > Is it line or mic?
> >
> > What does it say on the receiver? What does it say in the manual?
> >
> > > Usually I run the receiver into
> > > my sound devices mixer and set the mixer at line level which sounds
> > > great.
> >
> > Then from your anecdotal evidence, it would appear to be line-level.
> >
> > > What about if I connect my receiver directly to a camera which
> > > has line/mic switching? What should I set the camera to?
> >
> > If it works properly into the line-level input of your mixer, it would
> > seem logical to assume that it would work properly into the line-level
> > input of your camera. Again, since you have not identified either the
> > receiver or the camera, we are restricted to making educated guesses.
> >
> > Of course, it takes only a few seconds to actually do the experiment
> > and try the camera input level switch in both positions (mic and line).
>
> Hi there Richard. Thanks mate for your reply. The model number on the
> receiver is EK 100 G2. I looked at the manual but couldnt find
> anything there on the particular type of signal coming out of this
> receiver.

Looking here at a PDF of that manual, under AF Characteristics, AF
Output Voltage, it specifies "unbalanced: +10 dBu".

>The camera I tested on the other day is a Sony HVR1P,
> single chip. I know, not exactly broadcast quality but still has the
> XLR inputs with mic/line selection. I did do a test with both mic and
> line settings into the camera. When the camera was set to mic input,
> the level was horribly overdriven as I new would be the case. When I
> selected the line in position on the camera, the audio was very, very
> low. I was abke to fix this a bit by gaining the output level of the
> receiver to +12db, but still wasnt fantastic. Sorry to blabber on but
> I am new to this and am wanting to acheive the best possible results I
> can. Thanks again Richard.


--
ha
shut up and play your guitar

[Scott Dorsey]

> wrote:
>
>Hi there Scott. Thanks for your reply. Its an EK 100 G2 bodypack
>receiver. Yes I think you may be right in that its a line level
>output. Its just that when I set my camera to line level input, the
>level was very, very low. The camera I have is a Sony HVRA1P single
>chip. I know, not exactly broadcast quality but still acceptable...I
>think :)

There isn't just one line level standard, there are several of them.
The EK 100 G2 gives you eight different options... go to the AF OUT
menu on the receiver and select each one in turn until you see good
levels on the camera meters.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."