Re: NAT: A different response

[Jenn[_2_]]

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>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Jun 7, 8:50*pm, wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 9:25*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Get ready for that old saw "unit cohesion".
> >
> > something you have with George.'
> > so, gays and straights can have it.
> > You will do well in combat with George by your side.
>
> If George wanted to be a soldier I'm sure I would.
>
> I've already served in a hostile fire area with gay soldiers. I
> trusted my life to someone who had changed genders.
>
> "Readiness", "morale", "unit cohesion" or anything else you can come
> up with were not affected.

The Marine's Lament, by Fred Small

From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
I have fought my country's battles
I have faced every enemy
I ain't scared of no Iraqi missiles
I ain't scared of no Russian tanks
If I'm captured and tortured all they'll get
Is my serial number name and rank
You know I'd storm Baghdad to kick Saddam's butt
Swim to Havana bring home Castro's beard
For my buddies throw my body on a live grenade
I guess I just don't know the meaning of fear
But please
Please
Please please please please please
Don't make me shower with a fairy
Not a fairy--fairies scare me
Cause a fairy might look at my weewee
My weewee--it's so teeny

Listen here: http://www.rhapsody.com/fred-small/everything-possible

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 8, 1:42*am, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> > On Jun 7, 8:50*pm, wrote:

> > > something you have with George.'
> > > so, gays and straights can have it.
> > > You will do well in combat with George by your side.
>
> > If George wanted to be a soldier I'm sure I would.
>
> > I've already served in a hostile fire area with gay soldiers. I
> > trusted my life to someone who had changed genders.
>
> > "Readiness", "morale", "unit cohesion" or anything else you can come
> > up with were not affected.
>
> The Marine's Lament, by Fred Small
>
> From the halls of Montezuma
> To the shores of Tripoli
> I have fought my country's battles
> I have faced every enemy
> I ain't scared of no Iraqi missiles
> I ain't scared of no Russian tanks
> If I'm captured and tortured all they'll get
> Is my serial number name and rank
> You know I'd storm Baghdad to kick Saddam's butt
> Swim to Havana bring home Castro's beard
> For my buddies throw my body on a live grenade
> I guess I just don't know the meaning of fear
> But please
> Please
> Please please please please please
> Don't make me shower with a fairy
> Not a fairy--fairies scare me
> Cause a fairy might look at my weewee
> My weewee--it's so teeny
>
> Listen here: *http://www.rhapsody.com/fred-small/everything-possible

Too funny.

Yes, a soldier will storm a machinegun nest, but that song may not be
accurate any more:

Today, the latest USA Today/Gallup poll finds 69% of Americans in
favor of military service by openly gay men and lesbians. While the
Clinton-era policy remains in place, President Obama promised during
the campaign to change it.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/Majority-Americans-Continue-Oppose-Gay-Marriage.aspx

The Zogby poll is the latest in a series of polls and public
statements indicating readiness for a chance in policy. A 2004
Annenberg poll found that a majority of junior enlisted personnel
favor allowing gays to serve openly, up from 13 percent in other polls
from 1993.

Among the general public, Gallup has found 79% support for repealing
the gay ban. A recent Boston Globe poll also found that a majority of
conservatives and regular church-goers favour repeal, too.

The primary rationale for the ban has been the effect of gay soldiers
on their units. If this poll is to be believed, this reasoning is
outdated.

http://www.palmcenter.org/node/735