View Full Version : The best scene from "The Misfits"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKq8Y2
Unfortunately Gable doesn't bwast the wascally wabbit.
On Apr 23, 1:45 am, wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKq8Y2
>
> Unfortunately Gable doesn't bwast the wascally wabbit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKq8Y2-q-o&feature=PlayList&p=908D24B36AF19E8D&index=2
Try that.
GeoSynch
April 23rd 09, 04:34 PM
Marc "calvin coolidge" Phillips doesn't notice the beam in his own eye:
> If you can't apologize to the group for what you did, you're not a real man.
On what moral authority can "calvin coolidge" prattle on about what a "real man"
would do? LOL!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
April 23rd 09, 06:37 PM
On Apr 23, 10:34*am, "GeoSynch" > wrote:
> Marc "calvin coolidge" Phillips doesn't notice the beam in his own eye:
>
> > If you can't apologize to the group for what you did, you're not a real man.
>
> On what moral authority can "calvin coolidge" prattle on about what a "real man"
> would do? LOL!
Gosh, "GeoSynch", I don't know!
Do tell. LOL!
On Apr 23, 10:37�am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:34�am, "GeoSynch" > wrote:
>
> > Marc "calvin coolidge" Phillips doesn't notice the beam in his own eye:
>
> > > If you can't apologize to the group for what you did, you're not a real man.
>
> > On what moral authority can "calvin coolidge" prattle on about what a "real man"
> > would do? LOL!
>
> Gosh, "GeoSynch", I don't know!
>
> Do tell. LOL!
CISG would never hesitate to sacrifice his own credibility to attack
the credibility of others. As long as he doesn't walk past any
mirrors, he's okay with it.
>
> I didn't fink on him. I have no objection to him being on the group as
> long as he doesn't flood it with spam or attack my livelihood.
To the extent your livelihood consists of selling people a bunch of
crap, I will attack your livelihood on Usenet.
It's stupid, in general, for merchants or vendors to get on Usenet in
their professional capacity, particularly on unmoderated newsgroups.
Anyone with a beef, legit or otherwise, can rag on you and go after
anything from your modus operandi to your technical skills to....well,
anything.
I don't like TONE Audio. I don't like the fact that it promotes
expensive, stylish but not necessarily well made stereo equipment as a
fashion accessory along with overpriced cars, jewelry, wine and other
lifestyle items. Now, that doesn't make me right and you wrong, but it
does open you up to all sorts of public airings of dirty laundry,
badgering, et al. From anyone, fair or foul, sane or insane.
I've always tried to be polite and decent with Atkinson on those
occasions I've had dealings with him, but the fact is I think he's not
using real good judgment to post on an unmoderated group dedicated to
the issue his publication deals with. If he has another hobby or
interest with no professional concern, that would be understandable,
but putting your professional and public self on a forum like this is
playing with matches and gasoline. There are some REALLY crazy people
out there, and you only have to fun foul of one to ruin-maybe your
whole day, maybe every day henceforth for you.
Either post under your real name or post under one consistent stage
name, but don't get cute and cocky. Decide well and stick to it.
If I were a professional writer or publisher, I'd write
professionally and not on open uncontrollable forums. Same with
manufacturers, contract engineers, etc. A few people have gotten away
with it with not much trouble, like Dick Pierce, but they've been good
about drawing the line with people.
What you've done so far is 1) set yourself to be perceived as
petulant and womanish in dealing with a nobody and 2) done it in a way
identifiable with you professionally.
Have a nice day, Marc.
On 24 Apr, 01:38, wrote:
> *I don't like TONE Audio. I don't like the fact that it promotes
> expensive, stylish but not necessarily well made stereo equipment as a
> fashion accessory along with overpriced cars, jewelry, wine and other
> lifestyle items.
Bratzi likes his swastikas to be made of cardboard
On Apr 23, 10:38�pm, wrote:
> > I didn't fink on him. I have no objection to him being on the group as
> > long as he doesn't flood it with spam or attack my livelihood.
>
> �To the extent your livelihood consists of selling people a bunch of
> crap, I will attack your livelihood on Usenet.
We're not selling people a bunch of crap.
>
> �It's stupid, in general, for merchants or vendors to get on Usenet in
> their professional capacity, particularly on unmoderated newsgroups.
That's why I was here for a decade without doing so. It was Arny and
GeoSynch's idea to start digging around and talking about TONE. I only
spoke up when they started to criticize it publicly (and ignorantly).
> Anyone with a beef, legit or otherwise, can rag on you and go after
> anything from your modus operandi to your technical skills to....well,
> anything.
And I can retalliate.
>
> �I don't like TONE Audio. I don't like the fact that it promotes
> expensive, stylish but not necessarily well made stereo equipment as a
> fashion accessory along with overpriced cars, jewelry, wine and other
> lifestyle items. Now, that doesn't make me right and you wrong, but it
> does open you up to all sorts of public airings of dirty laundry,
> badgering, et al. From anyone, fair or foul, sane or insane.
And I can respond.
>
> �I've always tried to be polite and decent with Atkinson on those
> occasions I've had dealings with him, but the fact is I think he's not
> using real good judgment to post on an unmoderated group dedicated to
> the issue his publication deals with. If he has another hobby or
> interest with no professional concern, that would be understandable,
> but putting your professional and public self on a forum like this is
> playing with matches and gasoline. There are some REALLY crazy people
> out there, and you only have to fun foul of one to ruin-maybe your
> whole day, maybe every day henceforth for you.
Let's see...we had Bob Morein try that, and he pretty much avoids the
group now. Arny did it, and now he's in dutch with his wife and
pastor. Here's the simple truth...I've been posting on here since
1998, JA long before that. In fact, I got my first writing gig in the
world of audio as a result of my participation here. There are many
people here that I have met, and a couple that I consider friends. Why
should I leave? I think I've done a pretty good job over the last
decade in dealing with the riff raff.
You've said that you've wanted to save RAO...so do I. There used to be
a lot of good people here, and Internet douchebags like Arny chased
them away. So if you're not here because you enjoy talking about
audio, or you're not here to have fun with the others here...you
should leave. If you're here because you have a serious Internet
addiction and you need to vent because you have a crappy life, you
should leave, too.
Here's the deal...if people were asking me to leave, I would have. In
eleven years, the only person to ask me to leave was Arny. You, Arny,
Scott and li'l GeoSynch have one thing in common...people have been
asking you to leave the group pretty regularly over the years. You
make this place less enjoyable for the others. Are you sane enough to
see the distinction? If you were, you would have gone already.
>
> �Either post under your real name or post under one consistent stage
> name, but don't get cute and cocky. Decide well and stick to it.
I posted under the same name for 11 years. Then two psychotic assholes
who live their life on the internet decided it would be a smart thing
to write to my business associates. So I decided to leave. Then a lot
of people asked me to come back. A few of them said that I should just
post under an alias and tell my friends who I was. So I did.
I have a right to do that. If you don't like it, kiss my ass.
>
> �If I were a professional writer or publisher, I'd write
> professionally and not on open uncontrollable forums. Same with
> manufacturers, contract engineers, etc. A few people have gotten away
> with it with not much trouble, like Dick Pierce, but they've been good
> about drawing the line with people.
>
> �What you've done so far is 1) set yourself to be perceived as
> petulant and womanish in dealing with a nobody and 2) done it in a way
> identifiable with you professionally.
>
> �Have a nice day, Marc.
I participate on a number of forums and I act in a civilized manner.
This is RAO. It is what is it.
>
> You've said that you've wanted to save RAO...so do I. There used to be
> a lot of good people here, and Internet douchebags like Arny chased
> them away. So if you're not here because you enjoy talking about
> audio, or you're not here to have fun with the others here...you
> should leave. If you're here because you have a serious Internet
> addiction and you need to vent because you have a crappy life, you
> should leave, too.
>
> Here's the deal...if people were asking me to leave, I would have. In
> eleven years, the only person to ask me to leave was Arny. You, Arny,
> Scott and li'l GeoSynch have one thing in common...people have been
> asking you to leave the group pretty regularly over the years. You
> make this place less enjoyable for the others. Are you sane enough to
> see the distinction? If you were, you would have gone already.
You know, I found every time I tried to discuss audio, which by its
nature is a techno-geek sort of thing, I found that no one was really
all that interested. But if politics came up, everyone was fine as
long as it was liberal politics. If it was not liberal, oh boy, you
were an idiot or a villain. I saw how Scott, a "respectable
conservative' was being treated, and I jumped in with the straight
stuff even though it's my view that politics should be kept out of it
if at all possible. And the truth is, only with moderation is that
going to work.
My political views here are my real ones, more or less, which is to
say I hold unpopular views, and by most commonly held standards,
extreme ones. I was a libertarian from high school until about five
years ago when the econocentric view became less and less tenable to
me in light of observed reality. I studied the biocentric view, tested
it with reality, and found it more nearly explained more of my
observations than the previous, econocentric ones I held. I might be
completely wrong. I don't claim inerrancy. But even the most
nonconfrontational explanations of those views drove people nuts, and
they still do. Oh well. If you can show me I'm wrong by logic rather
than howling the usual buzz-insults, I am willing to listen. The
details of the biocentric theory need more tweaking, but its basic
premise looks unshakable to me at this point.
As for audio. I don't think treating the science of audio
reproduction as a fashion accessory is healthy for the art. I think
it's been quite destructive. The high end saloons are filled with
quack remedies, marginally engineered or constructed products at high
prices, and salespeople whose arrogance and lack of real world
knowledge are generally stupendous.
Whether or not my political views are correct or even tenable,
certainly my views on audio are borne of considerable experience and
testing. I get testy sometimes with people who do not understand basic
electrical theory who lecture me on arcane points that are by the
frame of their discussion untestable, unverifiable, and unfalsifiable.
I am certain a large number of affluent high end buyers and the people
who cater to their trade are simply throwing out buzzwords and are
quite certain themselves they are wanton frauds. I've seen it and I've
caught people at it. I've caught the local high end dealers in lies
several times. I've caught nationally known reviewers and "gurus"
fabulizing too.
Arny and I disagree about a lot of things but his basic intent seems
to make a lot of sense to me. He can see a lot of the high end
orthodoxy is bogus. I don't fault him for speaking out. I don't make
fun of him for his religion, his city of residence (except for
weather, I'd trade the outer, White suburbs of Detroit for Johnson
county in a minute), or those kind of things. He's mostly shown good
humor with the people here, some of whom have been way over the line
with him. In particular, if i were Arny and I ran into whoever
"Middius" is, I'd punch the guy in the mouth. Right in front of
everybody.
>
>
>
> > Either post under your real name or post under one consistent stage
> > name, but don't get cute and cocky. Decide well and stick to it.
>
> I posted under the same name for 11 years. Then two psychotic assholes
> who live their life on the internet decided it would be a smart thing
> to write to my business associates. So I decided to leave. Then a lot
> of people asked me to come back. A few of them said that I should just
> post under an alias and tell my friends who I was. So I did.
>
> I have a right to do that. If you don't like it, kiss my ass.
Yes, but it isn't going to be good for business.
On 24 Apr, 03:32, wrote:
>
> *You know, I found every time I tried to discuss audio, which by its
> nature is a techno-geek sort of thing,
No it is not, at least , for some it is
because they make it so with their myopic view.
I studied the biocentric view, tested
> it with reality, and found it more nearly explained more of my
> observations than the previous, econocentric ones I held.
>
Your view of reality is distorted by your
prism of racial clasifications being
the primary focus of your observations
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
April 24th 09, 11:07 PM
On Apr 23, 12:49*pm, wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:37 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > On Apr 23, 10:34 am, "GeoSynch" > wrote:
>
> > > Marc "calvin coolidge" Phillips doesn't notice the beam in his own eye:
>
> > > > If you can't apologize to the group for what you did, you're not a real man.
>
> > > On what moral authority can "calvin coolidge" prattle on about what a "real man"
> > > would do? LOL!
>
> > Gosh, "GeoSynch", I don't know!
>
> > Do tell. LOL!
>
> CISG would never hesitate to sacrifice his own credibility to attack
> the credibility of others. As long as he doesn't walk past any
> mirrors, he's okay with it.
I can see clearly now...
Sugar's not too bright.
Jenn[_2_]
April 25th 09, 08:47 PM
In article
>,
wrote:
> On Apr 24, 12:32?am, wrote:
> > > You've said that you've wanted to save RAO...so do I. There used to be
> > > a lot of good people here, and Internet douchebags like Arny chased
> > > them away. So if you're not here because you enjoy talking about
> > > audio, or you're not here to have fun with the others here...you
> > > should leave. If you're here because you have a serious Internet
> > > addiction and you need to vent because you have a crappy life, you
> > > should leave, too.
> >
> > > Here's the deal...if people were asking me to leave, I would have. In
> > > eleven years, the only person to ask me to leave was Arny. You, Arny,
> > > Scott and li'l GeoSynch have one thing in common...people have been
> > > asking you to leave the group pretty regularly over the years. You
> > > make this place less enjoyable for the others. ?Are you sane enough to
> > > see the distinction? ?If you were, you would have gone already.
> >
> > ?You know, I found every time I tried to discuss audio, which by its
> > nature is a techno-geek sort of thing, I found that no one was really
> > all that interested. But if politics came up, everyone was fine as
> > long as it was liberal politics. If it was not liberal, oh boy, you
> > were an idiot or a villain. I saw how Scott, a "respectable
> > conservative' was being treated, and I jumped in with the straight
> > stuff even though it's my view that politics should be kept out of it
> > if at all possible. And the truth is, only with moderation is that
> > going to work.
>
> Audio discussions fell by the wayside several years ago when people
> like Arny attacked the objectivists and the high-end enthusiasts.
> Until we find a way to rediscover the fun and joy in this hobby, audio
> discussions are going to occur less and less.
Here's a little fun and joy. Thursday I picked up an interesting and
find sounding CD at Borders (one of the few they had left; Borders is in
a pretty sad state). Boulez doing the Bartok Piano Concerti with
various soloists in DGG. Boulez is not my favorite conductor, and I
seldom care for DGG sound, but both are "hits" in this case,
particularly in the First with Zimerman and the Chicago. Really good
sound, with just a hint of dryness in the high strings.
On Apr 25, 12:47�pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> wrote:
> > On Apr 24, 12:32?am, wrote:
> > > > You've said that you've wanted to save RAO...so do I. There used to be
> > > > a lot of good people here, and Internet douchebags like Arny chased
> > > > them away. So if you're not here because you enjoy talking about
> > > > audio, or you're not here to have fun with the others here...you
> > > > should leave. If you're here because you have a serious Internet
> > > > addiction and you need to vent because you have a crappy life, you
> > > > should leave, too.
>
> > > > Here's the deal...if people were asking me to leave, I would have. In
> > > > eleven years, the only person to ask me to leave was Arny. You, Arny,
> > > > Scott and li'l GeoSynch have one thing in common...people have been
> > > > asking you to leave the group pretty regularly over the years. You
> > > > make this place less enjoyable for the others. ?Are you sane enough to
> > > > see the distinction? ?If you were, you would have gone already.
>
> > > ?You know, I found every time I tried to discuss audio, which by its
> > > nature is a techno-geek sort of thing, I found that no one was really
> > > all that interested. But if politics came up, everyone was fine as
> > > long as it was liberal politics. If it was not liberal, oh boy, you
> > > were an idiot or a villain. I saw how Scott, a "respectable
> > > conservative' was being treated, and I jumped in with the straight
> > > stuff even though it's my view that politics should be kept out of it
> > > if at all possible. And the truth is, only with moderation is that
> > > going to work.
>
> > Audio discussions fell by the wayside several years ago when people
> > like Arny attacked the objectivists and the high-end enthusiasts.
> > Until we find a way to rediscover the fun and joy in this hobby, audio
> > discussions are going to occur less and less.
>
> Here's a little fun and joy. �Thursday I picked up an interesting and
> find sounding CD at Borders (one of the few they had left; Borders is in
> a pretty sad state). �Boulez doing the Bartok Piano Concerti with
> various soloists in DGG. �Boulez is not my favorite conductor, and I
> seldom care for DGG sound, but both are "hits" in this case,
> particularly in the First with Zimerman and the Chicago. �Really good
> sound, with just a hint of dryness in the high strings.
I've seldom had luck with DGG as well, but I do enjoy Bartok. Thanks!
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