calvin coolidge
April 21st 09, 08:34 PM
On Apr 21, 11:20*am, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Apr 20, 4:38*pm, calvin coolidge >
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> > On Apr 20, 10:49*am, ScottW2 > wrote:
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> > > On Apr 20, 8:13*am, calvin coolidge >
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 19, 11:23 pm, wrote:
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> > > > > I'm convinced now more than ever that some of the very expensive
> > > > > carts out there have a LOT of coloration and that that's what the
> > > > > buyers like. Demonstrating this may be tough, but one approach may
> > > > > work like this: Get a turntable, perhaps a recording lathe, and mount
> > > > > on it two tonearms so that the two may play the sa,me record in the
> > > > > same groove, one after the other. Use a good ADC and digitally offset
> > > > > the two tracks in time since the two styli will be at fixed distances
> > > > > apart and therefore once the differential in time of play is nulled
> > > > > out it will stay that way. The two carts can then be nulled digitally
> > > > > and a difference signal produced.
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> > > > > There night be a better way but I can't think of it.
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> > > > What cartridges have you heard? *On what turntables?
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> > > *I've heard a couple of Koetsu and they aren't flat.
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> > Who brought up Koetsu?
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> * I did.
So there you go again with your inadequate sample size. Ever measured
a Lyra?
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> > > Sound ok, but not something I'm interested in.
> > > I think my OC9 is far more revealing and true to the
> > > recording.
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> > The OC9 is a nice cartridge that measures very well. I prefer the
> > Dynavector 17D3, which also measures just as well and is a touch more
> > dynamic.
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> > > Koetsu doesn't even publish FR and a lousy match
> > > for my TT anyway needing a high mass arm.
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> > So you don't want a Koetsu. We got it. I have a Clearaudio, BTW.
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> > > Here's a Fremer review and you'll note that S'puke avoids testing
> > > the cart.
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> > >http://www.stereophile.com/phonocartridges/1098koetsu/index1.html
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> > > Hard to give Fremer any credibility with silly comments on the obvious
> > > like
> > > this.
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> > > "Speaking of which, I tried both with the preamp set to 47k ohms but
> > > preferred 100 ohms. In most cases I still think a moving-coil
> > > cartridge needs to be loaded down to prevent ringing. Ultimately, you
> > > have to let your ears be the judge—but don't confuse distortion
> > > (underdamped ringing) with spatiality. "
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> > > Makes one wonder how dumb and technically illiterate that marketplace
> > > is.
> > > If I was a reader I'd be insulted by the implication of such
> > > stupidity.
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> > You should write for them and set them straight.
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> * LoL. *I long ago realized that much of the high-end market does not
> want to be set straight. *They prefer to believe in magic. *It's more
> understandable than technology
> to them.
Your inability to write was a factor as well, I'll bet.
> On Apr 20, 4:38*pm, calvin coolidge >
> wrote:
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> > On Apr 20, 10:49*am, ScottW2 > wrote:
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> > > On Apr 20, 8:13*am, calvin coolidge >
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 19, 11:23 pm, wrote:
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> > > > > I'm convinced now more than ever that some of the very expensive
> > > > > carts out there have a LOT of coloration and that that's what the
> > > > > buyers like. Demonstrating this may be tough, but one approach may
> > > > > work like this: Get a turntable, perhaps a recording lathe, and mount
> > > > > on it two tonearms so that the two may play the sa,me record in the
> > > > > same groove, one after the other. Use a good ADC and digitally offset
> > > > > the two tracks in time since the two styli will be at fixed distances
> > > > > apart and therefore once the differential in time of play is nulled
> > > > > out it will stay that way. The two carts can then be nulled digitally
> > > > > and a difference signal produced.
>
> > > > > There night be a better way but I can't think of it.
>
> > > > What cartridges have you heard? *On what turntables?
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> > > *I've heard a couple of Koetsu and they aren't flat.
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> > Who brought up Koetsu?
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> * I did.
So there you go again with your inadequate sample size. Ever measured
a Lyra?
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> > > Sound ok, but not something I'm interested in.
> > > I think my OC9 is far more revealing and true to the
> > > recording.
>
> > The OC9 is a nice cartridge that measures very well. I prefer the
> > Dynavector 17D3, which also measures just as well and is a touch more
> > dynamic.
>
> > > Koetsu doesn't even publish FR and a lousy match
> > > for my TT anyway needing a high mass arm.
>
> > So you don't want a Koetsu. We got it. I have a Clearaudio, BTW.
>
> > > Here's a Fremer review and you'll note that S'puke avoids testing
> > > the cart.
>
> > >http://www.stereophile.com/phonocartridges/1098koetsu/index1.html
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> > > Hard to give Fremer any credibility with silly comments on the obvious
> > > like
> > > this.
>
> > > "Speaking of which, I tried both with the preamp set to 47k ohms but
> > > preferred 100 ohms. In most cases I still think a moving-coil
> > > cartridge needs to be loaded down to prevent ringing. Ultimately, you
> > > have to let your ears be the judge—but don't confuse distortion
> > > (underdamped ringing) with spatiality. "
>
> > > Makes one wonder how dumb and technically illiterate that marketplace
> > > is.
> > > If I was a reader I'd be insulted by the implication of such
> > > stupidity.
>
> > You should write for them and set them straight.
>
> * LoL. *I long ago realized that much of the high-end market does not
> want to be set straight. *They prefer to believe in magic. *It's more
> understandable than technology
> to them.
Your inability to write was a factor as well, I'll bet.