yappity-yappity-woof!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
barking noise. The recommended therapy is a few minutes of introspection
twice a day. The best time is right after feeding, since pooches get
drowsy anyway and temporarily stop yapping. Do you need some help in
learning how to do introspection? Here are some guidelines that are simple
enough for any doggie to follow.

1. Start with a simple question: "At whom am I directing my barking?"
I expect you won't be able to answer this question easily, since you
rarely bark in the direction of a specific human. You might try focusing
on whether you're aiming at one of the groups you hate, like "the
Mexicans" or "the Gays".

2. Next, go on to a basic "why" question: "Why should they listen to my
yapping?"
The answer to this one may surprise you. (That is, assuming you were
joking when, in the past, you claimed to be 'smart'.)

3. The third question in the basic series is pragmatic: "What do I hope to
accomplish?"
Don't make the mistake of answering this question in reference to those at
whom you direct your barking. This is, after all, an exercise in
introspection. The correct route to enlightenment is to identify which of
*your own* feelings of inadequacy you are hoping to remediate. Is it your
insecurity about the whiteness of your neighborhood? Your feeling of
inferiority about your inability to communicate effectively? Your feeling
of rejection by your own people because you had to send away for a
mail-order Mexican woman to bear your children?


Do let us know how this first introspection exercise works out for you.
I'm sure any of the RAO Normals will offer you the support you need in
this trying ordeal.



--

"It is you who are completely unaware of what I perceive until
I choose to tell you. I rarely do."
-- Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, Feb. 3 2009

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 9, 10:43*pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
> shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
> barking noise.

I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.

It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
SSM vote is an attempt to control others.

That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.

It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Apr 9, 10:43*pm, George M. Middius >
> wrote:
> > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
> > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
> > barking noise.
>
> I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
>
> It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
>
> That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
>
> It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
> reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.

Anyone who doubts the ill will from Scott and Bratzi need only go to
Google Groups. Their off-topic posting really does crowd out legitimate
threads there.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
> > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
> > barking noise.
>
> I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
>
> It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
>
> That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
>
> It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
> reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.

Yes, apparently ScottieDog believes that's his 'right' as a free citizen.
Not that it isn't a 'right', of course. But let's just say the result
would be different if this were a real gathering of real people who wanted
to talk about something they're really interested in.


--

"I prefer substantive discussion over continuous expressions of unjustified outrage."
Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, March 24, 2009

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 10, 8:53*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 9, 10:43*pm, George M. Middius >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > > > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> > > > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > > > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading
> > > > doggie
> > > > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot
> > > > of
> > > > barking noise.
> >
> > > I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
> >
> > > It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> > > to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> > > SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
> >
> > > That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
> >
> > > It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
> > > reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.
> >
> > Anyone who doubts the ill will from Scott and Bratzi need only go to
> > Google Groups. Their off-topic posting really does crowd out legitimate
> > threads there.
>
> LoL. Show me one thread "crowded out"?

It's the google groups format. Open up the first page and often what
you'll see is a dozen or so bratzi threads starters with no responses
and/or a bunch of your off-topic posts.

Stephen




> The simple fact is the legit audio threads have all the "space" they
> require.
> If you can't find and support them, it's your own usenet incompetence
> that is
> the cause.
> Anyway, they rapidly break down into the usual bickering
> of unsubstantial BS.
> We have cowards like shhh who only exist to ridicule and as such won't
> even reveal their gear...fearing ridicule. How hypocritical is that?
>
> Anyway, want an audio thread? How about answering a question.
> Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
> I like AMG but their discography provides few details on mastering
> differences of releases. I was listening to Steve Miller's Anthology
> last
> night, and the CD which AMG lists as a '96 Capital release though I
> think
> I bought it long before that sounds like a compressed vinyl master.
> It's one of those works that IMO, sounds much better on vinyl but I'd
> like
> to get a remaster if available. Doesn't look like it.
>
> ScottW

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> Anyway, want an audio thread? How about answering a question.
> Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?

Search the Hoffman forum.

> I like AMG but their discography provides few details on mastering
> differences of releases. I was listening to Steve Miller's Anthology
> last
> night, and the CD which AMG lists as a '96 Capital release though I
> think
> I bought it long before that sounds like a compressed vinyl master.
> It's one of those works that IMO, sounds much better on vinyl but I'd
> like
> to get a remaster if available. Doesn't look like it.

Living in the U.S.A (CEMA Special Markets) overlaps a few titles (plus
"The Joker) and sounds okay but not great. Of course, it could have the
same mastering. The package is copyright 1995.

Hoffmanites will prefer the Greatest Hits 1974-1978 DCC gold CD.

And don't miss this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 10:43*am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 10, 8:53*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Apr 9, 10:43*pm, George M. Middius >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > > > > > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > > > > > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading
> > > > > > doggie
> > > > > > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a
> > > > > > lot
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > barking noise.
> >
> > > > > I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
> >
> > > > > It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> > > > > to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> > > > > SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
> >
> > > > > That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
> >
> > > > > It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the
> > > > > only
> > > > > reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.
> >
> > > > Anyone who doubts the ill will from Scott and Bratzi need only go to
> > > > Google Groups. Their off-topic posting really does crowd out legitimate
> > > > threads there.
> >
> > > *LoL. *Show me one thread "crowded out"?
> >
> > It's the google groups format. Open up the first page and often what
> > you'll see is a dozen or so bratzi threads starters with no responses
> > and/or a bunch of your off-topic posts.
>
> You haven't figured out how to go to the next page yet?
> Lower right corner <older>....one click.

Thanks for showing you understand how off-topic posts can crowd others
off the first page.

> You want to bring something back to the front page for the
> google challenged? Post a reply in the thread and bingo,
> back to the top it goes.

Gotta go find it first.

> I see you passed on the audio topic opportunity below.

You speak too soon, revealing another google groups problem.

Stephen

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 10:40�am, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 9:42�pm, George M. Middius >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Shhhh! said:
>
> > > > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > > > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> > > > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > > > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
> > > > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
> > > > barking noise.
>
> > > I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
>
> > > It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> > > to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> > > SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
>
> > > That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
>
> > > It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
> > > reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.
>
> To the assholes.
>
>
>
> > Yes, apparently ScottieDog believes that's his 'right' as a free citizen.

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 11:20�am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> �ScottW2 > wrote:
> > Anyway, want an audio thread? �How about answering a question.
> > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
>
> Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> > I like AMG but their discography provides few details on mastering
> > differences of releases. � I was listening to Steve Miller's Anthology
> > last
> > night, and the CD which AMG lists as a '96 Capital release though I
> > think
> > I bought it long before that sounds like a compressed vinyl master.
> > It's one of those works that IMO, sounds much better on vinyl but I'd
> > like
> > to get a remaster if available. �Doesn't look like it.
>
> Living in the U.S.A (CEMA Special Markets) overlaps a few titles (plus
> "The Joker) and sounds okay but not great. Of course, it could have the
> same mastering. The package is copyright 1995.
>
> Hoffmanites will prefer the Greatest Hits 1974-1978 DCC gold CD.
>
> And don't miss this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA

Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
calvin coolidge > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 11:20?am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > ?ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > Anyway, want an audio thread? ?How about answering a question.
> > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
> >
> > Search the Hoffman forum.
> >
> > > I like AMG but their discography provides few details on mastering
> > > differences of releases. ? I was listening to Steve Miller's Anthology
> > > last
> > > night, and the CD which AMG lists as a '96 Capital release though I
> > > think
> > > I bought it long before that sounds like a compressed vinyl master.
> > > It's one of those works that IMO, sounds much better on vinyl but I'd
> > > like
> > > to get a remaster if available. ?Doesn't look like it.
> >
> > Living in the U.S.A (CEMA Special Markets) overlaps a few titles (plus
> > "The Joker) and sounds okay but not great. Of course, it could have the
> > same mastering. The package is copyright 1995.
> >
> > Hoffmanites will prefer the Greatest Hits 1974-1978 DCC gold CD.
> >
> > And don't miss this:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA
>
> Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.

I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
writing a book.

Stephen

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 11:49�am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> �calvin coolidge > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 11:20?am, MiNe 109 � > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
>
> > > ?ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? ?How about answering a question.
> > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
>
> > > Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> > > > I like AMG but their discography provides few details on mastering
> > > > differences of releases. ? I was listening to Steve Miller's Anthology
> > > > last
> > > > night, and the CD which AMG lists as a '96 Capital release though I
> > > > think
> > > > I bought it long before that sounds like a compressed vinyl master.
> > > > It's one of those works that IMO, sounds much better on vinyl but I'd
> > > > like
> > > > to get a remaster if available. ?Doesn't look like it.
>
> > > Living in the U.S.A (CEMA Special Markets) overlaps a few titles (plus
> > > "The Joker) and sounds okay but not great. Of course, it could have the
> > > same mastering. The package is copyright 1995.
>
> > > Hoffmanites will prefer the Greatest Hits 1974-1978 DCC gold CD.
>
> > > And don't miss this:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjr5U7g6aiA
>
> > Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> > mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> > remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.
>
> I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
> skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
> but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
> writing a book.

No, there's some really crazy things going on behind the scenes.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 11, 12:33*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:

> We have cowards like shhh who only exist to ridicule and as such won't
> even reveal their gear...fearing ridicule.

Is that what it is?

As Jenn once asked you: why are you incapable of accurately quoting
someone else's view? (This begs the question of why you admitted that
don't offer your own.)

>*How hypocritical is that?

A strawman? I don't know, Mr. "I prefer good discussions over
unwarranted anger". Are strawmen "hypocritical, or do they merely show
a lack of "integrity"? LOL!

> Anyway, want an audio thread? *

Not from you. You're far too stupid to offer anything of interest.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Apr 11, 12:40*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 9:42*pm, George M. Middius >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Shhhh! said:
>
> > > > Scooter, I think your mindless barking about politics is masking a
> > > > question you need to ask. For some reason, you're unable to bark your
> > > > question using the keyboard. Are you perhaps suffering from Canine
> > > > Interrogatory Inhibition Syndrome? If so, be advised that leading doggie
> > > > shrinks say the syndrome cannot be overcome by continuing to make a lot of
> > > > barking noise.
>
> > > I found 2pid's trashing of "the will of the people" quite a urprise.
>
> > > It turns out that these vites 2pid keeps braying about are just a way
> > > to impose someone's will on sombody else. According to 2pid the whole
> > > SSM vote is an attempt to control others.
>
> > > That's why 2pid is afraid of having a vote on RAO.
>
> > > It also shows that Calvin nailed 2pid regarding the fact that the only
> > > reason 2pid hangs around here is to be an asshole.
>
> To the assholes.

Then everybody here is an "asshole" in your view. Yet you decide to
stick around.

Hilarious!

So let's vote, 2pid! Time to put your money where your mouth is!

> > Yes, apparently ScottieDog believes that's his 'right' as a free citizen.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
calvin coolidge > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 11:49?am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:

> > > Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> > > mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> > > remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.
> >
> > I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
> > skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
> > but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
> > writing a book.
>
> No, there's some really crazy things going on behind the scenes.

I don't know about those. I'll assume the worst! :-)

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question.
> > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
> >
> > Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.

Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
actual listening.

I hope someone out there enjoyed the Paul Pena "Jet Airliner" link.

Stephen

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 5:20�pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> �calvin coolidge > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 11, 11:49?am, MiNe 109 � > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:
> > > > Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> > > > mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> > > > remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.
>
> > > I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
> > > skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
> > > but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
> > > writing a book.
>
> > No, there's some really crazy things going on behind the scenes.
>
> I don't know about those. I'll assume the worst! :-)

This will give you a starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hoffman

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
calvin coolidge > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 5:20?pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:
> >
> > > On Apr 11, 11:49?am, MiNe 109 ? > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:
> > > > > Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> > > > > mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> > > > > remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.
> >
> > > > I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
> > > > skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
> > > > but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
> > > > writing a book.
> >
> > > No, there's some really crazy things going on behind the scenes.
> >
> > I don't know about those. I'll assume the worst! :-)
>
> This will give you a starting point:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hoffman

Pretty weak stuff that doesn't include the one really bad thing I've
heard about him. Despite Davis, Hoffman doesn't transfer flat.

One of the more amusing corrections the Forumites received was when
respected mastering engineer Trautgott contradicted the "old masterings
didn't have eq" truism widely accepted there. Came as a surprise to me,
but I'm open to new information.

Skepticism is always called for in such a forum.

Stephen

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 8:09�pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> �calvin coolidge > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 5:20?pm, MiNe 109 � > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 11, 11:49?am, MiNe 109 ? > wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >,
> > > > > ?calvin coolidge > wrote:
> > > > > > Don't use the Hoffman Forum as a resource for anything. More decent
> > > > > > mastering engineers have been chased out of that place than I care to
> > > > > > remember. It's like the Jonestown of audio forums.
>
> > > > > I wouldn't write it off completely, but one should retain a healthy
> > > > > skepticism. Yes, I've seen the atrocities (Ron Stone, Ron Furmanek, etc)
> > > > > but I also saw Bobby Whitlock go from answering a casual question to
> > > > > writing a book.
>
> > > > No, there's some really crazy things going on behind the scenes.
>
> > > I don't know about those. I'll assume the worst! :-)
>
> > This will give you a starting point:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hoffman
>
> Pretty weak stuff that doesn't include the one really bad thing I've
> heard about him. Despite Davis, Hoffman doesn't transfer flat.

> One of the more amusing corrections the Forumites received was when
> respected mastering engineer Trautgott contradicted the "old masterings
> didn't have eq" truism widely accepted there. Came as a surprise to me,
> but I'm open to new information.
>
> Skepticism is always called for in such a forum.

Well, I'm reluctant to diss the guy, especially since I just listened
to 3 new jazz remasters he and Kevin Gray did and found them to sound
absolutely wonderful. He's an industry figure who definitely polarizes
people, though.

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
MiNe 109 > wrote:

> One of the more amusing corrections the Forumites received was when
> respected mastering engineer Trautgott contradicted the "old masterings
> didn't have eq" truism widely accepted there. Came as a surprise to me,
> but I'm open to new information.

Oops! Probably Barry Diament.

Stephen

[calvin coolidge]

On Apr 11, 11:03�pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article >,
> �MiNe 109 � > wrote:
>
> > One of the more amusing corrections the Forumites received was when
> > respected mastering engineer Trautgott contradicted the "old masterings
> > didn't have eq" truism widely accepted there. Came as a surprise to me,
> > but I'm open to new information.
>
> Oops! Probably Barry Diament.
>
> Stephen

Have you heard any of the latest Diament recordings? Very strange
sound, IMO.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 5:22*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> >
> > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question.
> > > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
> >
> > > > Search the Hoffman forum.
> >
> > > Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> > > Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.
> >
> > Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
> > actual listening.
>
> Similar? I can't really agree with that.

That's silly. They have four songs in common IIRC and each cover
pre-"Fly Like an Eagle" time.

> Anyway the remaster greatest hits is still an OOP DCC.
>
> Now I notice on Amazon they claim a number of titles on Anthology
> CD are remastered (early nineties) but they only give their ASIN
> so I can't even tell what Capital release they're offering.

Amazon info isn't always friendly for collectors.

> I've got the 94488 which CD universe says was remastered in '90.
> Funny reviews, one guy thinks he got a 2 disc set.
> Guess he was confused with the double record vinyl release.
>
> How about the recent Spirit reissues?
> I see Spirit and Clear reissued....with $6 prices
> on CDUniverse....now at that price...I ordered.
> This looks interesting as well.
> http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7857258&style=movie

German tv? Could be fun.

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
calvin coolidge > wrote:

> On Apr 11, 11:03?pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > ?MiNe 109 ? > wrote:
> >
> > > One of the more amusing corrections the Forumites received was when
> > > respected mastering engineer Trautgott contradicted the "old masterings
> > > didn't have eq" truism widely accepted there. Came as a surprise to me,
> > > but I'm open to new information.
> >
> > Oops! Probably Barry Diament.
> >
> > Stephen
>
> Have you heard any of the latest Diament recordings? Very strange
> sound, IMO.

No, I haven't...The mp3 samples linked from his website sound like
rehearsal tapes. That's one kind of "you are there"!

Stephen

[[email protected]]

On 12 Apr, 15:53, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Apr 12, 11:12*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 11, 5:22*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
>
> > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > >,
>
> > > > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question.
> > > > > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
>
> > > > > > Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> > > > > Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> > > > > Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.
>
> > > > Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
> > > > actual listening.
>
> > > Similar? *I can't really agree with that.
>
> > That's silly. They have four songs in common IIRC and each cover
> > pre-"Fly Like an Eagle" time.
>
> Trotsky would be ripping you a Dave Weil sized one for such a gross
> mischaracterization. *Here's the tracks. *Zero overlap.
> Zero period overlap.
>
> I Love You
> 2 *Going to the Country
> 3 *Baby's House
> 4 *Kow Kow
> 5 *Your Saving Grace
> 6 *Going to Mexico
> 7 *Space Cowboy
> 8 *Living in the U.S.A.
> 9 *Journey from Eden
> 10 *Seasons
> 11 *Motherless Children
> 12 *Never Kill Another Man *Miller *2:44
> 13 *Don't You Let Nobody Turn You Around
> 14 *Little Girl
> 15 *Celebration Song
> 16 *My Dark Hour *Miller
>
> All these songs are from albums #5, Brave New World, Sailor, Recall
> the Beginning, and 5 songs were originally released on Anthology.
> Nothing post 1972 when Anthology was released.
>
> Everything below is 73 and later (even if the title is 74-78 as Joker
> was out in 73 according to AMG...it's all post car wreck/broken neck/
> reinvention to pop blues artist. *Winter Time and Wild Mountain Honey
> are the only ones I really like. *Take the Money and Run sucks. *I'm
> shocked they didn't include Shu Ba da Ma Ma Ma just to top it off with
> crap.
>
> 1 *Swingtown
> 2 *Jungle Love
> 3 *Take the Money and Run
> 4 *Rock 'N Me
> 5 *Serenade
> 6 *True Fine Love
> 7 *The Stake
> 8 *The Joker
> 9 *Fly Like an Eagle
> 10 *Threshold
> 11 *Jet Airliner
> 12 *Dance, Dance, Dance
> 13 *Winter Time
> 14 *Wild Mountain Honey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Anyway the remaster greatest hits is still an OOP DCC.
>
> > > Now I notice on Amazon they claim a number of titles on Anthology
> > > CD are remastered (early nineties) but they only give their ASIN
> > > so I can't even tell what Capital release they're offering.
>
> > Amazon info isn't always friendly for collectors.
>
> > > I've got the 94488 which CD universe says was remastered in '90.
> > > Funny reviews, one guy thinks he got a 2 disc set.
> > > Guess he was confused with the double record vinyl release.
>
> > > How about the recent Spirit reissues?
> > > I see Spirit and Clear reissued....with $6 prices
> > > on CDUniverse....now at that price...I ordered.
> > > This looks interesting as well.
> > >http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7857258&style=movie
>
> > German tv? Could be fun.
>
> *Gotta wonder about the recording quality.
> *I was listening to my double Spirit vinyl (Spirit and Clear)
> and the Orions are pretty ruthlessly revealing of some sloppy
> quitar work at times. *Still a great album IMO.
>
> ScottW-

Let me know when you find a vinyl or lp release of the Captain Twirly
Bird album

[[email protected]]

On 12 Apr, 14:12, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > On Apr 11, 5:22*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
>
> > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >,
>
> > > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question..
> > > > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
>
> > > > > Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> > > > Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> > > > Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.
>
> > > Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
> > > actual listening.
>
> > Similar? *I can't really agree with that.
>
> That's silly. They have four songs in common IIRC and each cover
> pre-"Fly Like an Eagle" time.
>
> > Anyway the remaster greatest hits is still an OOP DCC.
>
> > Now I notice on Amazon they claim a number of titles on Anthology
> > CD are remastered (early nineties) but they only give their ASIN
> > so I can't even tell what Capital release they're offering.
>
> Amazon info isn't always friendly for collectors.
>
> > I've got the 94488 which CD universe says was remastered in '90.
> > Funny reviews, one guy thinks he got a 2 disc set.
> > Guess he was confused with the double record vinyl release.
>
> > How about the recent Spirit reissues?
> > I see Spirit and Clear reissued....with $6 prices
> > on CDUniverse....now at that price...I ordered.
> > This looks interesting as well.
> >http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7857258&style=movie
>
> German tv? Could be fun.
>


I have a Rockplast DVD of Little Feat

I have seen loads of live concerts, and Spirit stands right at the
very top,
the best live performance i have seen in my life
It was 1968, in the Wheaton Youth Center.
The week after Led Zep's famous show, the one
where only 10 people showed up.
The audience for spirit must have been 500 to 1000

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On 12 Apr, 12:37, ScottW2 > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 5:22*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
>
> > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question.
> > > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering details?
>
> > > > Search the Hoffman forum.
>
> > > Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> > > Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.
>
> > Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
> > actual listening.
>
> Similar? *I can't really agree with that.
> Anyway the remaster greatest hits is still an OOP DCC.
>
> Now I notice on Amazon they claim a number of titles on Anthology
> CD are remastered (early nineties) but they only give their ASIN
> so I can't even tell what Capital release they're offering.
> I've got the 94488 which CD universe says was remastered in '90.
> Funny reviews, one guy thinks he got a 2 disc set.
> Guess he was confused with the double record vinyl release.
>
> How about the recent Spirit reissues?
> I see Spirit and Clear reissued....with $6 prices
> on CDUniverse....now at that price...I ordered.
> This looks interesting as well.http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7857258&style=movie
>
> ScottW-

warning, don't go and buy it
it is PAL not NTSC

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 12, 11:12*am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 11, 5:22*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> >
> > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 11, 11:20*am, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > >,
> >
> > > > > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > > > > Anyway, want an audio thread? *How about answering a question.
> > > > > > > Is there a decent music site that devotes itself to mastering
> > > > > > > details?
> >
> > > > > > Search the Hoffman forum.
> >
> > > > > Nothing but reference to OOP DCC CDs.
> > > > > Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with my vinyl on this one.
> >
> > > > Well, I supplied an actual opinion about a similar collection based on
> > > > actual listening.
> >
> > > Similar? *I can't really agree with that.
> >
> > That's silly. They have four songs in common IIRC and each cover
> > pre-"Fly Like an Eagle" time.
>
> Trotsky would be ripping you a Dave Weil sized one for such a gross
> mischaracterization. Here's the tracks. Zero overlap.
> Zero period overlap.

<snip>

I'd be embarrassed if I thought I was comparing "Living In The U.S.A" to
Greatest Hits 74 to 78 or whatever the title is. Try again, this time
remembering the topic is "Anthology" on cd.

Trots would apologize if he made such a mistake as you just did. Or
maybe not.

Stephen

PS Oh, nevermind, you'd just find an excuse to get out of discovering
your error.

Anthology

1. "I Love You" (Miller)
2. "Going To The Country" (Miller, Sidran)
3. "Baby's House" (Hopkins, Miller)
4. "Kow Kow" (Miller)
5. "Your Saving Grace" (Davis, Miller, Sidran)
6. "Going To Mexico" (Miller, Scaggs)
7. "Space Cowboy" (Miller, Sidran)
8. "Living In The U.S.A." (Miller)
9. "Journey From Eden" (Miller)
10. "Seasons" (Miller, Sidran)
11. "Motherless Children" (Traditional)
12. "Never Kill Another Man" (Miller)
13. "Don't You Let Nobody Turn You Around" (Miller)
14. "Little Girl" (Miller)
15. "Celebration Song" (Miller, Sidran)
16. "My Dark Hour" (Miller)

Living In The U.S.A.

1. "Living in the U.S.A." (Miller)
2. "Space Cowboy" (Miller/Sidran)
3. "Don't Let Nobody Turn You Around" (Miller)
4. "The Joker" (Miller)
5. "Gangster of Love" (Watson)
6. "The Lovin' Cup" (Miller)
7. "Quicksilver Girl" (Miller)
8. "Your Saving Grace" (Davis)
9. "Motherless Children" (Trad. arr. Miller)
10. "Mary Lou" (Jessie/Ling)

Let's take a look: "Living in the U.S.A."; "Space Cowboy"; "Don't You
Let Nobody Turn You Around"; "Your Saving Grace"; "Motherless Children".

Okay, I apologize for saying there were four songs in common. There are
five.

[MiNe 109]

Jeez. Now I get it. In my post I mentioned these two things: I listened
to Living In The USA; and Hoffman forumites would prefer the
Hoffman-master Greatest Hits. That last bit was sort of a joke.

I'll try not to be so confusing in the future.

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 12, 1:58*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > Jeez. Now I get it. In my post I mentioned these two things: I listened
> > to Living In The USA; and Hoffman forumites would prefer the
> > Hoffman-master Greatest Hits. That last bit was sort of a joke.
> >
> > I'll try not to be so confusing in the future.
>
> Thanks...no big deal. I'll take equal credit for the
> confusion. Anyway, I was focusing on remasters
> and I don't believe Living in USA is that.
> DCC stuff is...but not the material I want...and the OOP prices
> are ridiculous anyway.
> Bootlegs for OOP material should be legal.....

To further muddy the waters:

<http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=7507013
&blogId=201258428>

This a discussion of the mastering techniques used for the King Biscuit
"The Steve Miller Band: On Tour 1973..1976".

New ambience triggered by old drum tracks! I hope it sounds good. And
more:

"This is a sure way to lose TDM DSP power. Using more AudioSuite
plug-ins to process selected audio files ahead of time frees up so much
DSP in a session. Sometimes I'll find myself using seven or eight
plug-ins per track, especially with vocals where I typically might end
up with some kind of mic modeling, de-essing, EQ, compression, limiting,
and other effects. If I process each of those plug-ins one at a time
with AudioSuite, then I have so much more DSP leftover to allocate to my
other plug-ins for the mix."

--

Stephen

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Apr 12, 3:57*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Apr 12, 1:58*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > > Jeez. Now I get it. In my post I mentioned these two things: I listened
> > > > to Living In The USA; and Hoffman forumites would prefer the
> > > > Hoffman-master Greatest Hits. That last bit was sort of a joke.
> >
> > > > I'll try not to be so confusing in the future.
> >
> > > Thanks...no big deal. I'll take equal credit for the
> > > confusion. Anyway, *I was focusing on remasters
> > > and I don't believe Living in USA is that.
> > > DCC stuff is...but not the material I want...and the OOP prices
> > > are ridiculous anyway.
> > > Bootlegs for OOP material should be legal.....
> >
> > To further muddy the waters:
> >
> > <http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=7507013
> > &blogId=201258428>
> >
> > This a discussion of the mastering techniques used for the King Biscuit
> > "The Steve Miller Band: On Tour 1973..1976".
> >
> > New ambience triggered by old drum tracks! I hope it sounds good. And
> > more:
> >
> > "This is a sure way to lose TDM DSP power. Using more AudioSuite
> > plug-ins to process selected audio files ahead of time frees up so much
> > DSP in a session. Sometimes I'll find myself using seven or eight
> > plug-ins per track, especially with vocals where I typically might end
> > up with some kind of mic modeling, de-essing, EQ, compression, limiting,
> > and other effects. If I process each of those plug-ins one at a time
> > with AudioSuite, then I have so much more DSP leftover to allocate to my
> > other plug-ins for the mix."
> >
> > --

> I wonder if DSP power limitations are still an issue with SOTA.
> That's a technology that continues to leap and bound forward on a
> Moore's law ^2 rate.

There's still plenty of outboard gear in studios, so I'd guess there's
room for DSP innovation.

Stephen