The disappearing CD/record stores

[Jenn[_2_]]

Our local store is, like others, shrinking. They just gave up about 1/4
of their space when they had the opportunity.

On this weekend's visit to L.A. I was again struck by the fact that in
the 2nd largest city in the country, there is only one decent store
remaining.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> Our local store is, like others, shrinking. They just gave up about 1/4
> of their space when they had the opportunity.
>
> On this weekend's visit to L.A. I was again struck by the fact that in
> the 2nd largest city in the country, there is only one decent store
> remaining.


Hmm. That's worrying. Here in Helsinki (pop 600 000)
we have three good shops catering for a completely different
client-base close together in the same street. One has recently
opened up a vinyl only shop next door to the main shop.

It is clear that the percentage of buys made on-line
(via Amazon etc or as downloads in .mp4 from iTunes)
is increasing rapidly. Record stores are forced to allocate
a larger and larger area to DVD also, which reduces
the amount of space they can devote to CD.

The prediction of a record industry market
analyst in London seems to be coming true.
He said that he thought that "CDs will disappear
eventually, except in the classical and jazz sectors,
which have a more discerning audience"

Iain

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...

> Our local store is, like others, shrinking. They just gave up about 1/4
> of their space when they had the opportunity.

> On this weekend's visit to L.A. I was again struck by the fact that in
> the 2nd largest city in the country, there is only one decent store
> remaining.

Most normal people are able to adapt to such evolutionary changes without
excess public whining. There's Amazon, the rest of the web, and the record
department of your local Home Technology superstore (e.g. Best Buy) at your
service.

[hophead]

In article <jennconductsREMOVETHIS-853912.08055409032009
@news.la.sbcglobal.net>, says...
> Our local store is, like others, shrinking. They just gave up about 1/4
> of their space when they had the opportunity.
>
> On this weekend's visit to L.A. I was again struck by the fact that in
> the 2nd largest city in the country, there is only one decent store
> remaining.

We've had significant downsizing/closure of most of the music stores in
my area. The exception are the spots that specialize in vinyl: while
that's a small niche, these stores have seen an increase in sales.

It does make some sense to me: I do buy most of my CDs from on-line
sources, but I prefer to buy vinyl in person, and I love physically
browsing through vinyl collections.

I'm also surprised to see how many young people are adopting vinyl
today: most of them don't buy many CDs (most will download the
equivalent through legal or other sources) but vinyl seems to appeal to
some of these kids that shun physical media in other forms.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"hophead" > wrote in message
t...
> In article <jennconductsREMOVETHIS-853912.08055409032009
> @news.la.sbcglobal.net>, says...
>> Our local store is, like others, shrinking. They just gave up about 1/4
>> of their space when they had the opportunity.
>>
>> On this weekend's visit to L.A. I was again struck by the fact that in
>> the 2nd largest city in the country, there is only one decent store
>> remaining.
>
> We've had significant downsizing/closure of most of the music stores in
> my area. The exception are the spots that specialize in vinyl: while
> that's a small niche, these stores have seen an increase in sales.
>
> It does make some sense to me: I do buy most of my CDs from on-line
> sources, but I prefer to buy vinyl in person, and I love physically
> browsing through vinyl collections.

Agreed. Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
(and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
with on-line shopping.

I have formed a good relationship at the audio and also
music shops where I go. They usually produce a cup of
coffee with two sugars quite quickly:-)

> I'm also surprised to see how many young people are adopting vinyl
> today: most of them don't buy many CDs (most will download the
> equivalent through legal or other sources) but vinyl seems to appeal to
> some of these kids that shun physical media in other forms.

Yes that's interesting. There is a great deal of interest in vinyl.
My local dealer told me that many teenage customers by six
to ten CDs at a time. The music is very short-lived as it is,
so the significance of such a CD is not very great.

Iain

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Iain Churches said:

> Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
> the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
> (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
> with on-line shopping.

Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject that's
near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could. Audio 'Borgs are
an exception to this rule, as to many others.

But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...

> Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject that's
> near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could.

Pretty well sums up some people's empty lives. They have to engage in
commercial activities in order to oblige people to pay any attention to them
at all. They don't have friends, they have service representatives and
account managers.

Many of us have human entities in our lives commonly known as "friends and
relatives" that among other things achieve some of the same purposes, but
in an informal way.

By eschewing normal reproductive activities Middiot, you have cleverly cut
yourself off from several big categories of relatives known as "the spouse"
"children", many "in-laws", and "grandchildren". By avoiding religion, you
have cleverly avoided "church friends", "god children", "god parents", etc.
By avoiding holding a job, you have cleverly avoided having "co-workers" and
"friends from work".

This whole conversation must be very unfamiliar and uncomfortable for you
Middiot, as there are generally no actual well-defined cash payments of any
kind in these situations. People who behave this way have "friends", attend
"social gatherings", and "relate" to other people. You might want to study
this further...

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Iain Churches said:
>
>> Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
>> the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
>> (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
>> with on-line shopping.
>
> Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject that's
> near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could. Audio 'Borgs are
> an exception to this rule, as to many others.
>
> But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.


:-)

I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
part of the selection process.

Cheers
Iain

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Iain Churches said:

> >> Vinyl (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile.

> > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.

> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> part of the selection process.

I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not fondling
(i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Iain Churches said:
>
>> >> Vinyl (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile.
>
>> > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
>
>> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
>> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
>> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
>> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
>> part of the selection process.
>
> I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not fondling
> (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).
>


George

Have you seen the gatefold sleeve of the Ray Charles/Count
Basie vinyl production "Ray Sings Basie Swings" ?

Just watch how people react when they look at it/handle it.

Iain

[hophead]

In article >,
says...

> :-)
>
> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> part of the selection process.
>

Heh, while I get George's point, I do own one double jazz cd that is
beautifully packaged with some great information included. "Artist's
Choice: The Eddie Harris Anthology".

The two CDs are contained in a high quality cloth bound gatefold
package, much like a miniature record album. There's a nice accompanying
booklet, and a great selection of songs that really highlight Eddie's
talent and diversity. All told, it's a high quality package worthy of
fondling!

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> Iain Churches said:
>
> > >> Vinyl (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile.
>
> > > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
>
> > I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> > now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> > in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> > In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> > part of the selection process.
>
> I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not fondling
> (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).

Cheapo Discs had a tv ad that featured the sound of cd cases rustling as
customers browsed through them.

Stephen

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"MiNe 109" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> George M. Middius > wrote:
>
>> Iain Churches said:
>>
>> > >> Vinyl (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile.
>>
>> > > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
>>
>> > I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
>> > now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
>> > in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
>> > In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
>> > part of the selection process.
>>
>> I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not
>> fondling
>> (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).
>
> Cheapo Discs had a tv ad that featured the sound of cd cases rustling as
> customers browsed through them.


LOL. Clickety clack? Like ill-fitting dentures?


>
> Stephen

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"hophead" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> :-)
>>
>> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
>> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
>> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
>> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
>> part of the selection process.
>>
>
> Heh, while I get George's point, I do own one double jazz cd that is
> beautifully packaged with some great information included. "Artist's
> Choice: The Eddie Harris Anthology".
>
> The two CDs are contained in a high quality cloth bound gatefold
> package, much like a miniature record album. There's a nice accompanying
> booklet, and a great selection of songs that really highlight Eddie's
> talent and diversity. All told, it's a high quality package worthy of
> fondling!


Agreed. And in the case of vintage material, some labels
do make a special effort to provide pics and info that make
the recordings of particular interest.

I am a great Duke Ellington fan. He recorded many of
his compositions for various labels and using different
names for the same band. These make fascinating
comparison.

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"ScottW2" > wrote in message
...
On Mar 9, 11:26 am, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:t9mar4h4rp71854b30fkf3m5r53i9n94ou@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > Iain Churches said:
>
> >> Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
> >> the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
> >> (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
> >> with on-line shopping.
>
> > Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject
> > that's
> > near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could. Audio 'Borgs
> > are
> > an exception to this rule, as to many others.
>
> > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
>
> :-)
>
> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> part of the selection process.

>Last time I was in a CD store virtually all but used offerings were
>shrinkwrapped or the CD case is taped closed. Info booklets are not
>usually accessable.

Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
biscuit? That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)

Iain

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Iain Churches said:

> > I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not fondling
> > (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).

> Have you seen the gatefold sleeve of the Ray Charles/Count
> Basie vinyl production "Ray Sings Basie Swings" ?
> Just watch how people react when they look at it/handle it.

When they start putting the artistic effort into CDs that they put into LPs,
let us all know!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not fondling
> > (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).
>
> Cheapo Discs had a tv ad that featured the sound of cd cases rustling as
> customers browsed through them.

Great 'borg repellent idea!

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Iain Churches said:
>
>> > I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not
>> > fondling
>> > (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).
>
>> Have you seen the gatefold sleeve of the Ray Charles/Count
>> Basie vinyl production "Ray Sings Basie Swings" ?
>> Just watch how people react when they look at it/handle it.
>
> When they start putting the artistic effort into CDs that they put into
> LPs,
> let us all know!
>
Agreed. The "convenient physical size" of the CD has resulted in
notes written in 2pt text, which pales into significance when
compared with the vinyl version of the same recording.

The Decca/L'Oiseau Lyre recording of Willian Byrd's
"My ladye Neville Booke is a good example.

The first viny edition had splendid colour pics of the frontispiece
and content of the original "booke" in Byrds own hand.
The CD had a tiny black and white "bookelet"!

Iain

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
"Iain Churches" > wrote:

> "MiNe 109" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > George M. Middius > wrote:
> >
> >> Iain Churches said:
> >>
> >> > >> Vinyl (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile.
> >>
> >> > > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
> >>
> >> > I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> >> > now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> >> > in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> >> > In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> >> > part of the selection process.
> >>
> >> I see. Well, let it be said that browsing entails reading but not
> >> fondling
> >> (i.e., no "tactile" feedback is involved).
> >
> > Cheapo Discs had a tv ad that featured the sound of cd cases rustling as
> > customers browsed through them.
>
>
> LOL. Clickety clack? Like ill-fitting dentures?

Yes! If they really want more business, they should have hand
disinfectant dispensers like supermarkets do.

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
"Iain Churches" > wrote:

> "hophead" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> >> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> >> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> >> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> >> part of the selection process.
> >>
> >
> > Heh, while I get George's point, I do own one double jazz cd that is
> > beautifully packaged with some great information included. "Artist's
> > Choice: The Eddie Harris Anthology".
> >
> > The two CDs are contained in a high quality cloth bound gatefold
> > package, much like a miniature record album. There's a nice accompanying
> > booklet, and a great selection of songs that really highlight Eddie's
> > talent and diversity. All told, it's a high quality package worthy of
> > fondling!
>
>
> Agreed. And in the case of vintage material, some labels
> do make a special effort to provide pics and info that make
> the recordings of particular interest.
>
> I am a great Duke Ellington fan. He recorded many of
> his compositions for various labels and using different
> names for the same band. These make fascinating
> comparison.

Austin is hosting an Ellington conference, including a performance of
his rarely-heard opera:

http://www.music.utexas.edu/echoesofellington/queeniepie.html

I don't know if there will be a webcast.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> If they really want more business, they should have hand
> disinfectant dispensers like supermarkets do.

I'd be careful about using those. They're probably spiked with buymoreamin,
the human shopping hormone.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Mar 9, 12:55*pm, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> > "ScottW2" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> > On Mar 9, 11:26 am, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > > messagenews:t9mar4h4rp71854b30fkf3m5r53i9n94ou@4ax .com...
> >
> > > > Iain Churches said:
> >
> > > >> Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
> > > >> the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
> > > >> (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
> > > >> with on-line shopping.
> >
> > > > Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject
> > > > that's
> > > > near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could. Audio 'Borgs
> > > > are
> > > > an exception to this rule, as to many others.
> >
> > > > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
> >
> > > :-)
> >
> > > I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> > > now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> > > in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> > > In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> > > part of the selection process.
> > >Last time I was in a CD store virtually all but used offerings were
> > >shrinkwrapped or the CD case is taped closed. Info booklets are not
> > >usually accessable.
> >
> > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.
>
> ScottW

They're good!

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Iain Churches" > wrote:

> "hophead" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> >> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> >> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> >> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> >> part of the selection process.
> >>
> >
> > Heh, while I get George's point, I do own one double jazz cd that is
> > beautifully packaged with some great information included. "Artist's
> > Choice: The Eddie Harris Anthology".
> >
> > The two CDs are contained in a high quality cloth bound gatefold
> > package, much like a miniature record album. There's a nice accompanying
> > booklet, and a great selection of songs that really highlight Eddie's
> > talent and diversity. All told, it's a high quality package worthy of
> > fondling!
>
>
> Agreed. And in the case of vintage material, some labels
> do make a special effort to provide pics and info that make
> the recordings of particular interest.
>
> I am a great Duke Ellington fan. He recorded many of
> his compositions for various labels and using different
> names for the same band. These make fascinating
> comparison.
>
> Iain

You heard about Louis Bellson's passing, I trust.

You would have loved a presentation I had in class a couple of years
ago. Ellington's long-time traveling secretary lives in my town, and
she and Steven Lasker (producer and engineer of the monumental RCA
Ellington retrospective) spoke to our music majors. It was a really fun
day. Oh the stories!

Steven liked our recording studio.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
> >
> > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.

> They're good!

Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.

He might even follow dinner with a digestif. Bleah!

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 9, 7:17*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Jenn said:
>
> > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? *Eeeew.
> > They're good!
>
> Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.

2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Mar 9, 7:17*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> > Jenn said:
> >
> > > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
> >
> > > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? *Eeeew.
> > > They're good!
> >
> > Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> > wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
> 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.

Stephen

[[email protected]]

On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 7:17*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> > > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? *Eeeew.
> > > They're good!
>
> > Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> > wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
> 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.

I prefer stuffed tits

[[email protected]]

On 10 Mar, 00:46, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
> > On Mar 9, 7:17*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> > > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > > > biscuit? *That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> > > > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? *Eeeew.
> > > > They're good!
>
> > > Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> > > wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
> > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
>

I'll do anyhting to get out of the pudding!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 9, 7:09*pm, Jenn > wrote:

> Steven liked our recording studio.

Many people are impressed by wanton wasteful spending. ;-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
> On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

> > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> I prefer stuffed tits

Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

> wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 7:17 pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > > biscuit? That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> > > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.
> > > They're good!
>
> > Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> > wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
> 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.

>I prefer stuffed tits

Presumably you mean the bird of that name (Parus Major) ?
King Edward VII of England used to eat stuffed quails,
usually a dozen of them, for breakfast.

So you are in good gastronomical company.

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Jenn said:
>
>> > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
>> > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
>> > > biscuit? That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>> >
>> > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.
>
>> They're good!
>
> Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
>

One of my favourite British delicacies is the Cornish pastie (pasty)
which houisewives of yore used to bake for their menfolk working
in the tin mines. It was both a main course and dessert, having meat
and potatoes enclosed in a pastry cover, in one half, and fruit or
jam in the other:-)

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"ScottW2" > wrote in message
...
On Mar 9, 12:55 pm, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> "ScottW2" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Mar 9, 11:26 am, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> > messagenews:t9mar4h4rp71854b30fkf3m5r53i9n94ou@4ax .com...
>
> > > Iain Churches said:
>
> > >> Physically browsing at a record shop, and talking with
> > >> the salesperson is good part of the purchasing pleasure. Vinyl
> > >> (and also CD to some extent) is so tactile. You get none of this
> > >> with on-line shopping.
>
> > > Nobody could devalue the pleasure of a conversation about a subject
> > > that's
> > > near to your heart. Wait -- I meant no human being could. Audio 'Borgs
> > > are
> > > an exception to this rule, as to many others.
>
> > > But fondling a CD for the "tactile" pleasure? You must be joking.
>
> > :-)
>
> > I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
> > now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
> > in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
> > In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
> > part of the selection process.
> >Last time I was in a CD store virtually all but used offerings were
> >shrinkwrapped or the CD case is taped closed. Info booklets are not
> >usually accessable.
>
> Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> biscuit? That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)

You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.

Yes of course. Good old British "McVitie's" Excellent
with strong Scandinavian coffee.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4687383_best-swedish-coffee.html


Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...

> You heard about Louis Bellson's passing, I trust.

Yes. Very sad. Another great name for the the
Big Band in the Sky

>
> You would have loved a presentation I had in class a couple of years
> ago. Ellington's long-time traveling secretary lives in my town, and
> she and Steven Lasker (producer and engineer of the monumental RCA
> Ellington retrospective) spoke to our music majors. It was a really fun
> day. Oh the stories!

Has Steven Lasker compiled some material for CD? If so, I would
very much like to know about it.

I have masses of Ellington material. The Double CD of music
recorded for the "Okeh" label and released in the Columbia Jazz
Master Series is especially good. I did some research back in
my student days, when we were planning an acoustic recording
project with a band having the same line-up as Ellington's
"Washingtonians" A colleague of mine came across some notes
made by the Okeh engineer, Charles Hibbard, who had worked
previously as an assistant at Edison. There was some fascinating
info about acoustic and early electrical recording. Hibbard wrote
how he had to stand behind "the recording apparatus" and, at the
onset of a crescendo, he used to insert a pad of angora wool
partly into the bell of the recording horn. This is probably the
origin of the use of "pad" to mean attenuator - a term used
to this day!!

I was briefly introduced to Duke Ellington during one
of his fleeting visits to London. Baritone saxophone maestro
Harry Carney was with him. Mr Ellington was hustled
off to a business lunch but I had the honour of showing
Harry Carney around the Decca studios. He was a quiet
but very likeable man. He told me that he had been with
Duke Ellington since1927. I joked and said: "Do you think
you will stay?" He smiled and replied, "When you have
played in the Ellington band, there is nowhere left to go".
He added that he had originally been an alto player.

> Steven liked our recording studio.

Excellent. It is very pleasing indeed that there is still a
strong interest in jazz (jass:-) and vintage jass in particular.
Scandinavia and Sweden in particular has a very strong
jazz tradition. It is said to have been due to the two
world wars. While the rest of the civilised nations
were beating the hell out of each other in Mons,
Ypres, and Verdun, the canny youngsters of Sweden
were practising hot licks on the Selmer Mk VI tenor sax:-)
There are numerous bands with young very gifted players
giving excellent concerts.

Regards
Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"MiNe 109" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Iain Churches" > wrote:
>
>> "hophead" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> I buy/get sent a lot of jazz reissues. Often the same material,
>> >> now PD is offered by several labels, so the quality of the info
>> >> in the booklet (pics, recording dates, personel, etc) is of interest.
>> >> In this way, physically browsing (not fondling:-) is an important
>> >> part of the selection process.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Heh, while I get George's point, I do own one double jazz cd that is
>> > beautifully packaged with some great information included. "Artist's
>> > Choice: The Eddie Harris Anthology".
>> >
>> > The two CDs are contained in a high quality cloth bound gatefold
>> > package, much like a miniature record album. There's a nice
>> > accompanying
>> > booklet, and a great selection of songs that really highlight Eddie's
>> > talent and diversity. All told, it's a high quality package worthy of
>> > fondling!
>>
>>
>> Agreed. And in the case of vintage material, some labels
>> do make a special effort to provide pics and info that make
>> the recordings of particular interest.
>>
>> I am a great Duke Ellington fan. He recorded many of
>> his compositions for various labels and using different
>> names for the same band. These make fascinating
>> comparison.
>
> Austin is hosting an Ellington conference, including a performance of
> his rarely-heard opera:
>
> http://www.music.utexas.edu/echoesofellington/queeniepie.html
>
> I don't know if there will be a webcast.
>
Excellent. Thanks for that.

I live in Scandinavia, where jazz is very strong, particularly
in Sweden. It is probably due to the fact that during two World
Wars, while the rest of the world's nations were beating the
hell out each other, the Swedes were busy plaing hot licks
on the Selmer Mk VI saxophone:-) Some of the young
jazz players are amazing. Ellington was a frequent visitor
to Sweden.

Iain

[[email protected]]

On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
>
> > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> > I prefer stuffed tits
>
> Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?

Why did you lie about me saying that?

[[email protected]]

On 10 Mar, 03:49, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Mar 9, 7:17 pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
>
> > > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > > Did the manager send a pretty young sales assistant to
> > > > > > call you into the office for a cup of coffee and a Digestive
> > > > > > biscuit? That's when you get to read the inlay booklets:-)
>
> > > > > You eat "Digestive biscuits"? Eeeew.
> > > > They're good!
>
> > > Scottie 'thinks' it's un-American to travel to the UK and sample their
> > > wares. Either that or he's a ruminant and not a mutt at all.
>
> > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
> >I prefer stuffed tits
>
> Presumably you mean the bird of that name (Parus Major) *?
> King Edward VII of England used to eat stuffed quails,
> usually a dozen of them, for breakfast.
>
> So you are in good gastronomical company.
>
> Iain

yes, I did!

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Iain Churches" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > You heard about Louis Bellson's passing, I trust.
>
> Yes. Very sad. Another great name for the the
> Big Band in the Sky

Yep. They have Louis, backed up by Gene, Buddy, Max...

>
> >
> > You would have loved a presentation I had in class a couple of years
> > ago. Ellington's long-time traveling secretary lives in my town, and
> > she and Steven Lasker (producer and engineer of the monumental RCA
> > Ellington retrospective) spoke to our music majors. It was a really fun
> > day. Oh the stories!
>
> Has Steven Lasker compiled some material for CD? If so, I would
> very much like to know about it.

Yes, this:
http://www.amazon.com/Centennial-Complete-RCA-Victor-Recordings/dp/B00000
IIQY

The complete RCA recordings.

>
> I have masses of Ellington material. The Double CD of music
> recorded for the "Okeh" label and released in the Columbia Jazz
> Master Series is especially good. I did some research back in
> my student days, when we were planning an acoustic recording
> project with a band having the same line-up as Ellington's
> "Washingtonians" A colleague of mine came across some notes
> made by the Okeh engineer, Charles Hibbard, who had worked
> previously as an assistant at Edison. There was some fascinating
> info about acoustic and early electrical recording. Hibbard wrote
> how he had to stand behind "the recording apparatus" and, at the
> onset of a crescendo, he used to insert a pad of angora wool
> partly into the bell of the recording horn. This is probably the
> origin of the use of "pad" to mean attenuator - a term used
> to this day!!

Cool!

>
> I was briefly introduced to Duke Ellington during one
> of his fleeting visits to London. Baritone saxophone maestro
> Harry Carney was with him. Mr Ellington was hustled
> off to a business lunch but I had the honour of showing
> Harry Carney around the Decca studios. He was a quiet
> but very likeable man. He told me that he had been with
> Duke Ellington since1927. I joked and said: "Do you think
> you will stay?" He smiled and replied, "When you have
> played in the Ellington band, there is nowhere left to go".
> He added that he had originally been an alto player.

That's wonderful. Other than the day mentioned above, my only brush
with the Ellington Band was a couple of encounters with Cat Anderson.
While I was a senior in high school, he played a half-time show with us.
He out blew a 100 piece band! lol Then he played an after-game outdoor
with our jazz band which was wonderful. At one point he picked up a
EUPHONIUM of all things and soloed on "Summertime". The next year while
I was a freshman in college, I got him phone number from the union
directory and rang him up for a lesson on upper range. Though I wasn't
a trumpeter, I figured that he's have great tips on brass range, based
on his freakish high range. I met him at his house in Studio City, and
we had a great 2 hour lesson. A real nice guy. For the next couple of
years when I'd see him in the little jazz clubs that used to be in L.A.
(Dante's, for example) when he was in the section for bands like Don
Menza, Blue Mitchell, Louis Bellson, etc. he'd often see me in the crowd
and smile and wave. Classy guy. Never known for great or pretty tone,
but the high range is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXew8qZ6rVI&feature=related

>
> > Steven liked our recording studio.
>
> Excellent. It is very pleasing indeed that there is still a
> strong interest in jazz (jass:-) and vintage jass in particular.
> Scandinavia and Sweden in particular has a very strong
> jazz tradition. It is said to have been due to the two
> world wars. While the rest of the civilised nations
> were beating the hell out of each other in Mons,
> Ypres, and Verdun, the canny youngsters of Sweden
> were practising hot licks on the Selmer Mk VI tenor sax:-)
> There are numerous bands with young very gifted players
> giving excellent concerts.

That's great.

[hophead]

In article <74b7e01f-f4a3-4f98-ae38-916c9d372044
@q9g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, says...
> On 10 Mar, 00:46, MiNe 109 > wrote:

> > If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding.
> >
>
> I'll do anyhting to get out of the pudding!
>

Yeah and the meat's no hell either!

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Iain Churches" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > You heard about Louis Bellson's passing, I trust.
>>
>> Yes. Very sad. Another great name for the the
>> Big Band in the Sky
>
> Yep. They have Louis, backed up by Gene, Buddy, Max...
>
>>
>> >
>> > You would have loved a presentation I had in class a couple of years
>> > ago. Ellington's long-time traveling secretary lives in my town, and
>> > she and Steven Lasker (producer and engineer of the monumental RCA
>> > Ellington retrospective) spoke to our music majors. It was a really
>> > fun
>> > day. Oh the stories!
>>
>> Has Steven Lasker compiled some material for CD? If so, I would
>> very much like to know about it.
>
> Yes, this:
> http://www.amazon.com/Centennial-Complete-RCA-Victor-Recordings/dp/B00000IIQY
>
> The complete RCA recordings.

Hmm. That's a pretty serious set USD at 645. But it's a must!
>
> That's wonderful. Other than the day mentioned above, my only brush
> with the Ellington Band was a couple of encounters with Cat Anderson.
> While I was a senior in high school, he played a half-time show with us.
> He out blew a 100 piece band! lol Then he played an after-game outdoor
> with our jazz band which was wonderful. At one point he picked up a
> EUPHONIUM of all things and soloed on "Summertime". The next year while
> I was a freshman in college, I got him phone number from the union
> directory and rang him up for a lesson on upper range. Though I wasn't
> a trumpeter, I figured that he's have great tips on brass range, based
> on his freakish high range. I met him at his house in Studio City, and
> we had a great 2 hour lesson. A real nice guy. For the next couple of
> years when I'd see him in the little jazz clubs that used to be in L.A.
> (Dante's, for example) when he was in the section for bands like Don
> Menza, Blue Mitchell, Louis Bellson, etc. he'd often see me in the crowd
> and smile and wave. Classy guy. Never known for great or pretty tone,
> but the high range is amazing.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXew8qZ6rVI&feature=related


Ah yes - El Gato! What an amazing player! He was said to have a
range of five octaves!

One of the fascinating things about Duke Ellington, his band (sorry,
orchestra:-) and arrangements was that he was able to highlight the
unique abilities of the players in the music which the band played. He
constantly "set them off" in competition with one another to spur
them on to greater things.

Actually, my favourite trumpet/cornet player in the Ellington orchestra
has to be James "Bubber" Miley, who although he was only with
Ellington for 6 years (1923-1929) left a deep footprint for those
that followed him. He had an incredible technique, and was a
master of the plunger mute, in what they termed "Jungle music"
It was Bubber Miley who coined the phrase "It Don't Mean a
Thing if It Ain't got that Swing"

Sadly, he was an alcoholic. His health suffered to such a degree
that he had to leave Ellington in 1929 and died aged only 29 in 1932.

One can clearly hear his influence in the playing of both Cootie
Williams and also Ray Nance.

What a band! What a collection of legendary names!


Iain

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
> On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > wrote:
> > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
>
> > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> > > I prefer stuffed tits
>
> > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
>
> Why did you lie about me saying that?

I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.

So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?

[[email protected]]

On 10 Mar, 17:17, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
>
> > On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> > > > I prefer stuffed tits
>
> > > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
>
> > Why did you lie about me saying that?
>
> I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
> You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
> Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.
>
> So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?

Your Kroologic confounds me.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 5:33*pm, wrote:
> On 10 Mar, 17:17, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
>
> > > On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup. I
> > > > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> > > > > I prefer stuffed tits
>
> > > > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
>
> > > Why did you lie about me saying that?
>
> > I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
> > You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
> > Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.
>
> > So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?
>
> Your Kroologic confounds me.

Talk to your buddy 2pid. It's his 'logic'.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Mar 10, 3:33*pm, wrote:
> > On 10 Mar, 17:17, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
> >
> > > > On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock Soup.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
> >
> > > > > > I prefer stuffed tits
> >
> > > > > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
> >
> > > > Why did you lie about me saying that?
> >
> > > I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
> > > You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
> > > Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.
> >
> > > So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?
> >
> > Your Kroologic confounds me.
>
> I wonder if all this "imagery" is confounding Stephen?
> He seems upset.

Gosh, now you're trolling me from unrelated threads. That's a sign of
equanimity.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 9:29*pm, ScottW2 > wrote:

> *No comment on the lame attempts at imagery I see.

But comments abound on the insightful attempts a mockery, 2pid. You
seemed to have missed them.

> *Why am I not surprised?

I don't know. I'm not either. LoL.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW2 > wrote:

> On Mar 10, 7:13*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > On Mar 10, 3:33*pm, wrote:
> > > > On 10 Mar, 17:17, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > > > > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock
> > > > > > > > > Soup.
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
> >
> > > > > > > > I prefer stuffed tits
> >
> > > > > > > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
> >
> > > > > > Why did you lie about me saying that?
> >
> > > > > I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
> > > > > You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
> > > > > Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.
> >
> > > > > So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?
> >
> > > > Your Kroologic confounds me.
> >
> > > *I wonder if all this "imagery" is confounding Stephen?
> > > *He seems upset.
> >
> > Gosh, now you're trolling me from unrelated threads. That's a sign of
> > equanimity.
>
> No comment on the lame attempts at imagery I see.

Because I don't care about it.

> Why am I not surprised?

Does it give you a special feeling to imagine I'm all worked up while
you're cool? How does it make you feel when you lose your cool and start
describing the nastiest homosexual behavior you can dredge up from your
fantasies?

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Mar 10, 9:49*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > On Mar 10, 7:13*pm, MiNe 109 * > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
>
> > > *ScottW2 > wrote:
> > > > On Mar 10, 3:33*pm, wrote:
> > > > > On 10 Mar, 17:17, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Mar 10, 8:06*am, wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 10 Mar, 02:21, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 11:59*pm, wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 23:55, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > > > > > > > > 2pid's two favorite British foods are Spotted Dick and Cock
> > > > > > > > > > Soup.
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > think Clyde turned 2pid on to these.
>
> > > > > > > > > I prefer stuffed tits
>
> > > > > > > > Then why did you insist that 2pid eat spotted dick?
>
> > > > > > > Why did you lie about me saying that?
>
> > > > > > I didn't. According to 2pid if you don't deny something you prove it.
> > > > > > You didn't deny exposing 2pid to spotted dick and cock soup.
> > > > > > Therefore, my point is conclusively proven.
>
> > > > > > So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?
>
> > > > > Your Kroologic confounds me.
>
> > > > *I wonder if all this "imagery" is confounding Stephen?
> > > > *He seems upset.
>
> > > Gosh, now you're trolling me from unrelated threads. That's a sign of
> > > equanimity.
>
> > *No comment on the lame attempts at imagery I see.
>
> Because I don't care about it.
>
> > *Why am I not surprised?
>
> Does it give you a special feeling to imagine I'm all worked up while
> you're cool? How does it make you feel when you lose your cool and start
> describing the nastiest homosexual behavior you can dredge up from your
> fantasies?

Here's one example that was easy to find:

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=rent+boy&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&scoring=&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2009&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2009&as_ugroup=rec.audio.opinion&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=scottw&safe=off

or

http://tiny.cc/AIiYj

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > > So why did you force 2pid to eat dick and cock?
> > >
> > > Your Kroologic confounds me.
> >
> > I wonder if all this "imagery" is confounding Stephen?
> > He seems upset.
>
> Gosh, now you're trolling me from unrelated threads. That's a sign of
> equanimity.

<grrrr....>

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> How does it make you feel when you lose your cool and start describing the
> nastiest homosexual behavior you can dredge up from your fantasies?

You're acting like you don't want Scottie to invite you to one of his
pos-pos parties.