Buh bye.

[Boon]

Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

Boon

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <74793eb4-afdc-4703-9895-
>, says...
> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

Wow - it takes a special scumbag to do something like that.

I definitely appreciate your posts. Your knowledge and insights have
been valuable to me, and I will miss your participation here.

--
Bill

[Arny Krueger]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t

> I definitely appreciate your posts. Your knowledge and
> insights have been valuable to me, and I will miss your
> participation here.

Bill, since you have demonstrated zero interest in serious discussions of
audio, it is completely believable that Marc's insights have been valuable
to you.

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


>> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>> to my business associates about me "making death
>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the guy
>> who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

> That sucks. Bret, WTF are you thinking?

Bret gets points for doing what he could to help Marc avoid becoming another
John Atkinson.

The question to ask should go to Marc - what was he thinking when he
descended into making death threats?

Marc's problem probably stems from the fact that he saw too many of the
people he obviously admires, such as the Middiiot, get away with making them
on RAO. But the Middiot hides behind his Kroo-schtick. And just about
everybody else in the Middiot posse hides behind nyms.

And what are you thinking Scott? Or are you, as I've been suspecting for
some time, just another cooperating part of the RAO *action*?

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:34:28 -0800 (PST), Boon >
wrote:

>Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
>Boon


<Snarl>

I'll have more to say about this later.


Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:01:58 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 10:34*am, Boon > wrote:
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> farewell. *And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> That sucks. Bret, WTF are you thinking?
>
> RAO as it is today and the real world should never meet.
>The world can't handle it.
>Take care.
>
>Scott

Good for you, Scott. I realize there's background, but it's always
good to see stand-up.

Herbert

[Arny Krueger]

"Hoobert Heaver" > wrote in message

> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:34:28 -0800 (PST), Boon
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>> to my business associates about me "making death
>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>
>> Boon
>
>
> <Snarl>
>
> I'll have more to say about this later.

But since you're hiding behind a silly alias Hoobert, none of it will have
any credibilty at all.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg is STILL trying to pull some Normals down to his own level of
unparalleled stupidity.

> > I'll have more to say about this later.
>
> But since you're hiding behind a silly alias Hoobert, none of it will have
> any credibilty at all.

Arnii Krooger
4600 Prestwick Ave.
Goose Puke Warts, MI

That's where we can find you, right?

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message
> The Krooborg is STILL trying to pull some Normals down to
> his own level of unparalleled stupidity.
>
>>> I'll have more to say about this later.
>>
>> But since you're hiding behind a silly alias Hoobert,
>> none of it will have any credibilty at all.
>
> Arnii Krooger
> 4600 Prestwick Ave.
> Goose Puke Warts, MI
>
> That's where we can find you, right?

Middiot, you've done far better than this on many occasions.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

OK then, location confirmed.

> > The Krooborg is STILL trying to pull some Normals down to
> > his own level of unparalleled stupidity.
> >
> >>> I'll have more to say about this later.
> >>
> >> But since you're hiding behind a silly alias Hoobert,
> >> none of it will have any credibilty at all.
> >
> > Arnii Krooger
> > 4600 Prestwick Ave.
> > Goose Puke Warts, MI
> >
> > That's where we can find you, right?
>
> [My supreme master], you've done far better than this on many occasions.

Can we assume you're cackling with self-satisfaction over what happened at
Marc's office? After all, he's the one who sicced the cops on you when you
told your tales of pedophile fantasies.

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

> Can we assume you're cackling with self-satisfaction over
> what happened at Marc's office?

Last I heard, Marc doesn't have an office. Tone Audio is a virtual group,
isn't it?

> After all, he's the one who sicced the cops on you when he told them his
> tales of
> pedophile fantasies.

Well Middiot, at least you got that one right. ;-)

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

That really sucks.

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
> kill the group.

And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't noticed that RAO is
already dead, and has been for several years.

Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping RAO in its current
state. :-(

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message



> You know your claims aren't true, yet you provide
> justification for what
> has happened in making them. Why?


The Middiot is all about maximizing anger and hostility. That, and
minimizing exchange of useful information and opinions relating to audio.

Note that Marc posted more about his pedophile fantasies than about any
audio topic. Per the Middiot plan.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> Boon

Idiots. Don't let the ******* who did it determine your actions,
however.

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message

> On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
>>> kill the group.
>>
>> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't
>> noticed that RAO is already dead, and has been for
>> several years.

>> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping
>> RAO in its current state. :-(

> You know better than that.

Do I?

> But Usenet if full of dead
> groups and once they go silent, they rarely recover.

Better to be silent than a cesspool.

> I still have some hope for interesting discourse, audio
> or otherwise on RAO.

Scott, you've always been a hearty participant in the otherwise.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> Boon > wrote:
>
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>> to my business associates about me "making death
>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

>> Boon

> Idiots.

No, just one idiot. Marc should know that any death threat that is not
completely and patently a joke constitutes legal assault.

> Don't let the ******* who did it determine your
> actions, however.

When Marc wasn't being my puppet, he was being the Middiot's puppet. In
either case, he showed his lack of smarts, ethics and leadership ability.

Jenn your mourning over Marc, shows your ignorance, your hypocrisy and your
lack of ethics. You whine about the threats you've received, and then you
pat Marc on the head when he does the same or worse.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:33:21 -0800, Jenn
> wrote:

>In article
>,
> Boon > wrote:
>
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>
>> Boon
>
>Idiots. Don't let the ******* who did it determine your actions,
>however.

As I've said once before, you go, Girl!

Herbert

[Boon]

On Feb 4, 10:34�am, Boon > wrote:
> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. �And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.

Boon

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.

Could Arny get any more loathsome?

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>> to my business associates about me "making death
>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. ?And to the
>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
> phone.

Which lie are you telling now, Marc?

[Arny Krueger]

"MiNe 109" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> Boon > wrote:
>
>> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>>> to my business associates about me "making death
>>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. ?And to the
>>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>
>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>> phone.

> Could Arny get any more loathsome?

Yes. ;-)

[Clyde Slick]

On 4 Feb, 17:52, Boon > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>
> > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> Sorry, Bret. *I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
> Boon

Arny did that to you?
Did he send an email to your employer, accusing
you of making death threats?

If so, its time for another lawsuit, Arny was just telling me how
much he enjoyed the previous one.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
> Could Arny get any more loathsome?

Are you challenging him? <G>

[Jenn[_2_]]

MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
> > > business
> > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
> > > congratulations.
> >
> > Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>
> Stephen

No.

If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
this person?

If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
"whining".

How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new low, it seems.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:52:31 -0800 (PST), Boon >
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
>Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
>Boon
Wow ****ing wow!!


Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:08 -0600, MiNe 109
> wrote:

>In article
>,
> Boon > wrote:
>
>> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>> > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>
>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>> Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
>Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>
>Stephen

Maybe. I don't know. I used to think there had to be a bottom, but now
I think it's just madness. He can't help himself. He's possessed,
whether he understands or not.

Herbert

[MiNe 109]

In article

al.net>,
Jenn > wrote:

> MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > Boon > wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> > > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
> > > > business
> > > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
> > > > congratulations.
> > >
> > > Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> > > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
> >
> > Could Arny get any more loathsome?
> >
> > Stephen
>
> No.
>
> If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
> feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
> this person?
>
> If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
> about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
> years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
> You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
> my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
> show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
> I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
> mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
> "whining".
>
> How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new low, it seems.

I'd missed those details. I tend to put his excesses out of mind because
I refuse to take him seriously, but that's the kind of thing that makes
me unwilling to condemn the scorched-earth tactics adopted by others.

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Feb 4, 4:50*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> >
> > al.net>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Jenn > wrote:
> > > MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > *Boon > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> > > > > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
> > > > > > business
> > > > > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > > > > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
> > > > > > congratulations.
> >
> > > > > Sorry, Bret. *I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> > > > > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
> >
> > > > Could Arny get any more loathsome?
> >
> > > > Stephen
> >
> > > No.
> >
> > > If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
> > > feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
> > > this person? *
> >
> > > If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
> > > about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
> > > years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
> > > You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
> > > my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
> > > show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
> > > I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
> > > mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
> > > "whining".
> >
> > > How "loathsome" can he get you aak? *There's always a new low, it seems.
> >
> > I'd missed those details. I tend to put his excesses out of mind because
> > I refuse to take him seriously, but that's the kind of thing that makes
> > me unwilling to condemn the scorched-earth tactics adopted by others.
>
> Trouble is we all endure the rubble of scorched earth.

No, we don't. Like everything else in life, ignore what you don't like
and contribute where you want.

> I'm with Jenn on this and happy to see she finally saw the
> light. When Arny does what has become inevitable,
> I have no problem moving on.
> If you can't do that, then ignore him completely.
> The scorched earth practice reminds me of the Watts riots.
> The week after all the residents wondered why they burnt down
> all their grocery stores.

Highly suspect analogy.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Witless barked:

> There is more to discuss than audio, a topic that isn't all that
> deep imo.

True. Especially if your highest priority is "exposing fraud" and other
errands of imaginary mercy.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> The "whining" that he recently referred to
> about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
> years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
> You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
> my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
> show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
> I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
> mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was "whining".

I think you have reason to hate two individuals.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new low, it seems.

Krooger's conscience was also amputated when he was assimilated.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Daddy's Little Moron whined:

> > I refuse to take him seriously, but that's the kind of thing that makes
> > me unwilling to condemn the scorched-earth tactics adopted by others.
>
> Trouble is we all endure the rubble of scorched earth.

But you can "save" us by dumping your moronic political blog-excerpts.
Thank goodness Terrierdork is on the job!

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message

> On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
>>>>> kill the group.
>>
>>>> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't
>>>> noticed that RAO is already dead, and has been for
>>>> several years.
>>>> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping
>>>> RAO in its current state. :-(
>>> You know better than that.

>> Do I?

> You should.

What I know Scott is that you seem to like being called stupid.

>>> But Usenet if full of dead
>>> groups and once they go silent, they rarely recover.

>> Better to be silent than a cesspool.

> Perhaps, I don't think the cesspool is permanent yet
> though

The cesspool is permanent as long as there is a Middiot.

>>> I still have some hope for interesting discourse, audio
>>> or otherwise on RAO.

>> Scott, you've always been a hearty participant in the
>> otherwise.

> There is more to discuss than audio, a topic that isn't
> all that deep imo.

IOW as I said Scott, you are working to perpetuate the status quo.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
news:153136757255482362.203466jennconductsREMOVETH
> MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> Boon > wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send
>>>> emails to my business
>>>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I
>>>> bid you all farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret
>>>> Ludwig), congratulations.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>>> phone.
>>
>> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>
>> Stephen
>
> No.
>
> If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an
> already bottom feeding "career". Does anyone need a
> better reason to stop responding to this person?

You don't get it Jenn.

> If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently
> referred to about usenet threats has,of course, a
> backstory, untold by Arny.

I thought I'd leave that up to you, Jenn.

> A few years ago, a person
> threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke. You
> should die". He showed up hours later at my front door.

That's legal until you tell him to leave.

> This after my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I
> once told the story here to show empathy to Arny about
> his loss of a family member. For my trouble, I was told
> by him that it was my fault because I probably made the
> perp mad online. And now, all these years later, he says
> that I was "whining".

Intersting Jenn how you manage to make yourself out into a special victim by
throwing in this murder of your sister.

> How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new
> low, it seems.

Notice how Jenn can only see serious flaws in one person?

Jenn, so who was it that talked you into *helping* them with RAO?

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:40:47 GMT, Jenn
> wrote:

>MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> Boon > wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
>> > > business
>> > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
>> > > congratulations.
>> >
>> > Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>> > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>>
>> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>
>> Stephen
>
>No.
>
>If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
>feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
>this person?
>
>If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
>about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
>years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
>You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
>my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
>show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
>I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
>mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
>"whining".
>
>How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new low, it seems.

This has been going on for years, and periodically someone takes it
off RAO and tries to really injure someone.

And, yes, Arnie is a bit off when it comes to women, and a bit more
deranged when it comes to gay, so you get it twice, so to speak. You
don't need my approval, but FWIW, it seems to me you're getting the
hang of things exactly right.

Most of us are perfectly rational, reasonable folk who have audio and
music in our lives, which is why we came here originally.

Then we found Arnie, and that changed everything. Most of us get along
splendidly, even after fairly strong discussions. The thing is, if one
is genuinely offended by the strife here and how the various wars are
conducted, one needs to leave because that *is* what RAO is. RAO is
*not* just a little group to discuss audio. Audio is the excuse for
bashing Krueger.

After all, one has to have *something* to live for.....


Herbert

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" > wrote in message


> Trouble is we all endure the rubble of scorched earth.

Indeed.

> I'm with Jenn on this and happy to see she finally saw the
> light. When Arny does what has become inevitable,
> I have no problem moving on.

Exactly what might those be?

I predict that you won't move on because nothing will change.

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 4 Feb, 17:52, Boon > wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>>> to my business associates about me "making death
>>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
>>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>
>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>> phone.
>>
>> Boon
>
> Arny did that to you?
> Did he send an email to your employer, accusing
> you of making death threats?

I simply sent him the pima facae evidence. He figured it out immediately.

> If so, its time for another lawsuit,

No, this is a criminal matter. Marc broke the law. Now that Marc's employer
is involved, I can use him to lead law enforcement officials to Marc
himself.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:00:14 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 4:50*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> In article
>>
>> al.net>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jenn > wrote:
>> > MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> > > In article
>> > > >,
>> > > *Boon > wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> > > > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
>> > > > > business
>> > > > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> > > > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
>> > > > > congratulations.
>>
>> > > > Sorry, Bret. *I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>> > > > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>>
>> > > Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>
>> > > Stephen
>>
>> > No.
>>
>> > If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
>> > feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
>> > this person? *
>>
>> > If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
>> > about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
>> > years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
>> > You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
>> > my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
>> > show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
>> > I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
>> > mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
>> > "whining".
>>
>> > How "loathsome" can he get you aak? *There's always a new low, it seems.
>>
>> I'd missed those details. I tend to put his excesses out of mind because
>> I refuse to take him seriously, but that's the kind of thing that makes
>> me unwilling to condemn the scorched-earth tactics adopted by others.
>
> Trouble is we all endure the rubble of scorched earth.
>I'm with Jenn on this and happy to see she finally saw the
>light. When Arny does what has become inevitable,
>I have no problem moving on.
>If you can't do that, then ignore him completely.
>The scorched earth practice reminds me of the Watts riots.
>The week after all the residents wondered why they burnt down
>all their grocery stores.
>
>ScottW

I meant what I said about "Mensheviks, Scott." It took me years, but I
fnally realized there is no middle ground here. To be in the middle is
to be part of the problem.

We are the Internet version of The Palestinian Problem, of The Irish
Troubles, of The Koreas, of Serbia & Croatia etc. Intercede all you
want. Arnold will never back down, so if you don't want your own
village razed, you'd better fight back. This is Internet Ethnic
Cleansing. Either emigrate or fight.

You actually know the truth of that, so instead you turn to others to
change, but they're sick of being bullied and treated horribly. Most
importantly, they're disgusted by the intellectual dishonesty. In a
discussion group, one's very soul is contained by how one argues and
discusses. Arnie commits soul murder every day. To allow it to stand
is to allow murder.

He's been here...what? ....12 years? ....More? Has it ever changed?

Your bleating about is the damndest thing I've seen in a while. Here
you are in a prision camp complaining about the poor conditions while
leaving aside the entire question of the actual cause of the problem;
Arnold "Kroogly" Krueger, the man who sees himself as the "warden" of
all audio information, and the bane of non Christians everywhere.

You think Jenn was radicalized *before* she got here* Waddya t'ink? I
came here originally with a chip on my shoulder for Kroogly? Fer
Crissake George like all the rest of us came here looking for audio
info and there was Krueger, spewing and sputtering, bullying and
basically pulling the wings off butterflies.

So shut the **** up. I know you're smarter than this, but your signal
failure to confront is exactly why Sssssshhh calls you 2pid.

The dumbest sight in the world is being led to the slaughter without
fighting back. Indeed, being led to the slaughter while complaining
about the civility of your victims. That Stockholm Syndrome must be
some serious ****.......



Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:34:06 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Jenn" > wrote in message
>news:153136757255482362.203466jennconductsREMOVETH
>> MiNe 109 > wrote:
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> Boon > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>>>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send
>>>>> emails to my business
>>>>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I
>>>>> bid you all farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret
>>>>> Ludwig), congratulations.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>>>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>>>> phone.
>>>
>>> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>
>> No.
>>
>> If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an
>> already bottom feeding "career". Does anyone need a
>> better reason to stop responding to this person?
>
>You don't get it Jenn.
>
>> If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently
>> referred to about usenet threats has,of course, a
>> backstory, untold by Arny.
>
>I thought I'd leave that up to you, Jenn.
>
>> A few years ago, a person
>> threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke. You
>> should die". He showed up hours later at my front door.
>
>That's legal until you tell him to leave.
>
>> This after my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I
>> once told the story here to show empathy to Arny about
>> his loss of a family member. For my trouble, I was told
>> by him that it was my fault because I probably made the
>> perp mad online. And now, all these years later, he says
>> that I was "whining".
>
>Intersting Jenn how you manage to make yourself out into a special victim by
>throwing in this murder of your sister.

<spew>
>
>> How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new
>> low, it seems.
>
>Notice how Jenn can only see serious flaws in one person?
>
>Jenn, so who was it that talked you into *helping* them with RAO?
>
<gack>

Where's that eye of newt I had lying around here somewhere? I need a
fix real bad....


Herbert

[Clyde Slick]

On 4 Feb, 20:38, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4 Feb, 17:52, Boon > wrote:
> >> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>
> >>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
> >>> to my business associates about me "making death
> >>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
> >>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> >> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
> >> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
> >> phone.
>
> >> Boon
>
> > Arny did that to you?
> > Did he send an email to your employer, accusing
> > you of making death threats?
>
> I simply sent him the pima facae evidence. He figured it out immediately.
>
> > If so, its time for another lawsuit,
>
> No, this is a criminal matter. *Marc broke the law. Now that Marc's employer
> is involved, I can use him to lead law enforcement officials to Marc
> himself.-

its time for a bus trip.
everybody, rent a bus and lets meet up in Goose Puke next Wednesday
after we get there, we can meet expenses by picking up fares
in our spare time, you know, when we're not 'on the prowl'.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:38:36 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

>> On 4 Feb, 17:52, Boon > wrote:
>>> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>>>> to my business associates about me "making death
>>>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
>>>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>>> phone.
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> Arny did that to you?
>> Did he send an email to your employer, accusing
>> you of making death threats?
>
>I simply sent him the pima facae evidence. He figured it out immediately.
>
>> If so, its time for another lawsuit,
>
>No, this is a criminal matter. Marc broke the law. Now that Marc's employer
>is involved, I can use him to lead law enforcement officials to Marc
>himself.
>
>
Damn, Arnie, your penis is shrinking as I write this. If it weren't
for the fact you're the biggest dick on Earth, I'd say you were an
hermaphrodite.


Herbert

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 5:23*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "MiNe 109" > wrote in message

> > Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>
> Yes. ;-)

Insanity confirmed. :-(

[Sophistic]

Boon warbled, croaked, gasped:

> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

Loony-tune Buffoon bids adieu after making rash death-threats against his
decade-long tormentor.

Waaaaayyyyyyyy too funny ... har-har-har!!!

BaBoon now cowers in the corner whenever there's a knock on the door in grave
fear it's the state troopers come a-calling with arrest warrant in hand.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 10:43*pm, "Soporific" > wrote:

Sugar! You haven't been around since I kicked your ass and mopped up
the floor with your face!

> Waaaaayyyyyyyy too funny ... har-har-har!!!

I know. I still chuckle about it sometimes. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 7:34*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> Notice how Jenn can only see serious flaws in one person?

Let's see: pretty much everybody here who has "flaws" in your mind can
get along just fine.

There is one poster here who cannot seem (and has never seemed) to be
able to get along with anybody. Anybody.

So the questions are, are these "flawed" people, who can discuss other
things and generally get along, the problem? Or is there someone who
takes things outside RAO (2pid, here's your "reality"), cannot seem to
get along with *anybody*, and is generally the piece of **** that most
describe him to be? And who further loves to talk about his success
and respect on other groups (including HTML, even!) yet continuously
poisons RAO?

So who else has the "serious flaws", GOIA? LMAO!

Answer: Jenn is dead-on correct. ;-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 6:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:08 -0600, MiNe 109
> > wrote:

> >Could Arny get any more loathsome?

> Maybe. I don't know. I used to think there had to be a bottom, but now
> I think it's just madness. He can't help himself. He's possessed,
> whether he understands or not.

I understand. In a similar vein I sometimes figure that 2pid cannot
get any more imbecilic. He always proves me wrong too.

[Sophistic]

G.I. Jill swooned:

> Sugar! You haven't been around since I kicked your ass and mopped up the floor
> with your face!

The only thing you mopped up the floor with was your tongue after being
relegated to latrine clean-up duty with just a bucket, a toothbrush and that
aforementioned tongue of yours. You're probably in desperate need of a breath
mint by now, Jilly baby.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 11:13*pm, "Soporific" > wrote:
> G.I. Jill swooned:

You used that one before. It's time for some new material, sugar.

There are online thesauri if you get stuck.

> > Sugar! You haven't been around since I kicked your ass and mopped up the floor
> > with your face!
>
> The only thing you mopped up the floor with was your tongue after being
> relegated to latrine clean-up duty with just a bucket, a toothbrush and that
> aforementioned tongue of yours. You're probably in desperate need of a breath
> mint by now, Jilly baby.

Yes, the latrines at "Brigade 53" and "Battalion 53" are particularly
nasty. No need for mints, though, as the bleach takes care of it.

Thanks for your concern, sugar! LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 9:12*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 5:29*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "ScottW" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > wrote:
> > >> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > >>> On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > >>>>> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
> > >>>>> kill the group.
>
> > >>>> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't
> > >>>> noticed that RAO is already dead, and has been for
> > >>>> several years.
> > >>>> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping
> > >>>> RAO in its current state. :-(
> > >>> You know better than that.
> > >> Do I?
> > > *You should.
>
> > What I know Scott is that you seem to like being called stupid.
>
> *LoL. *I don't care what some people call me.
> *You seem to want everyone to disparage you with cause.

LoL. There hasn't been any up until now?

> > >>> But Usenet if full of dead
> > >>> groups and once they go silent, they rarely recover.
> > >> Better to be silent than a cesspool.
> > > *Perhaps, I don't think the cesspool is permanent yet
> > > though
>
> > The cesspool is permanent as long as there is a Middiot.
>
> *He can't live forever.

George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?

Did GOIA truly feel threatened, or was he simply being an asshole? I
think the answer is very clear.

We'll have no more chiding about someone choosing to remain anonymous.
It's the sane thing to do with people like GOIA around. It's also very
clear at this point why it bothers GOIA so much.

GOIA makes this place what it is. If he was truly appreciated and
admired at these other groups he brags about (including the HTML
ones!), he'd have no need to pollute this group with his hours of
insanity. So once again we catch GOIA in a lie. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 7:31*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> I don't enjoy it. But I know as long as there are sickos like you in this
> world Master, that is how things are going to be.

Sickos call people's employers with baseless claims.

Gahead: tell me how "threatened" you felt, or feel, by what goes on
here. Gahead: tell me why if you truly feel threatened you choose to
stay.

You're the sicko, GOIA. You aren't fooling anybody (except maybe 2pid).

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 4, 9:14*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 5:26*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:

> > But you can "save" us by dumping your moronic political blog-excerpts.
>
> *I can't save you from spewing meaningless tripe. That cause is long
> lost.

Fascist.

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to
> my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid
> you all
> farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
> congratulations.

Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight
from
Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.

Boon

Full marks to you Marc for admitting a mistake and
apologising. It is a shame a few more people can't do it.

I will be sorry to see you go.

All the best Terry

[TT]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>> On 4 Feb, 17:52, Boon > wrote:
>>> On Feb 4, 10:34 am, Boon > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails
>>>> to my business associates about me "making death
>>>> threats" to Arny, I bid you all farewell. And to the
>>>> guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's
>>> straight from Arny. It was a miscommunication over the
>>> phone.
>>>
>>> Boon
>>
>> Arny did that to you?
>> Did he send an email to your employer, accusing
>> you of making death threats?
>
> I simply sent him the pima facae evidence. He figured it
> out immediately.
>
>> If so, its time for another lawsuit,
>
> No, this is a criminal matter. Marc broke the law. Now
> that Marc's employer is involved, I can use him to lead
> law enforcement officials to Marc himself.
>
>
I sincerely hope you do get the police involved. Firstly,
everyone here can give character references for both you and
Marc and then you will be arrested for wasting police time!
Perhaps, even (if we are lucky) sent away for psychiatric
evaluation.

TT

PS FOAD! That is not a death threat, just wishful thinking
;-)

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
news:153136757255482362.203466jennconductsREMOVETH ...
> MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> In article
>> >,
>> Boon > wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
>> > > business
>> > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
>> > > congratulations.
>> >
>> > Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>> > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>>
>> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>
>> Stephen
>
> No.
>
> If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
> feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
> this person?
>
> If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
> about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
> years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
> You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
> my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
> show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
> I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
> mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
> "whining".
>
> How "loathsome" can he get you aak? There's always a new low, it seems.

Jenn. What I find so odious is the the cloak of pseudo-religion
that Mr Krueger wraps around himself.

I think it is commendable that the rest of us here keep our religious
beliefs to ourselves. I see it as a personal thing between the individual
and his/her God.

At the same time,. I am also a firm believer in Karma, in that the
effectsts of all deeds actively create past, present, and future
experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life,
and the pain and joy it brings to him/her and others.

IOW. What goes around......


Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
>> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.

>Sorry, Bret. I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.

Well well. There's a surprise!!
And Arny was willing to let Bret
take the responsibility.

Stout fellow:-)

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote in message
...

GOIA makes this place what it is. (snip)

Indeed. One can see the difference in
the qualoity of the discussion in the threads
in which Mr Krueger does not take part.

They are like a breath of fresh air.

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
> > kill the group.
>
> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't noticed that RAO
> is
> already dead, and has been for several years.
>
> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping RAO in its current
> state. :-(

>You know better than that. But usenet if full of dead groups and
>once they
>go silent, they rarely recover.
>I still have some hope for interesting discourse, audio or otherwise
>on RAO.

Scott. There hae been some interesting discussions,
well-informed and useful, in the past couple of
days. The quality of the thread depends very
much on who the participants are. If you see
what I mean:-)

Iain

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell.


That comes like a thunderbolt from a clear blue sky.
I recalll no post in which Boon made such a threat.
Did he?

Is there anything to be done, to ease the situation for
Boon?

Shame on Arnold Kreuger:-(((

But what goes around certainly comes around, of
that there is no doubt.

Iain

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message


> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> will liove in fear of lawsuits.

Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make sense out of the
above.

That Marc made a death threat against me is real.

The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.

People who are trying to build credibility with the public don't need
employees who act that way. They need to know when their trust is misplaced.

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message


> Arny is proving to be a lot more powerful s*** magnet
> than even I had imagined.

As you know Bret, magnets can be selectively de-energized, dropping their
load on the designated spot. ;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"TT" > wrote in message
. au

> I sincerely hope you do get the police involved.

Thanks for the support, Terry.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 5:07*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> > and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> > will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> Sorry nym, but you are obvously (sic)(GOIA is so hysterical he can't see straight) hysterical. I can't make sense out of the
> above.
>
> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling (sic. GOIA is so hysterical he can't see straight) me is real.

Don't forget the liars, GOIA. If someone isn't libeling you or
threatening you, they're lying to you or plotting against you.

Life sucks for you, GOIA. Everybody is out to get you. And you're such
a *nice* man!

> People who are trying to build credibility with the public don't need
> employees who act that way. They need to know when their trust is misplaced.

As if you can judge, "good" Christian that you are. LOL!

So to make you "credible" please point out those AES (or AES journal)
papers you've had published. While you're at it, one of your
recordings would be nice too.

LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 5:09*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> As you know Bret, magnets can be selectively de-energized, dropping their
> load on the designated spot. ;-)

Your poor wife. ;-)

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.

This is incorrect.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 6:14*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> This is incorrect.

Oh, JA, I'm *very* disappointed. I never would have thought that *you*
would resort to using "the debating trade".

Of course you've never "libelled" GOIA. There is no such thing. But
you *must* have *libeled* him because he said so. And we all *know*
GOIA *never* "lies". ;-)

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> This is incorrect.

I've got the documentation in google. Or did you figure out how to delete
it, John?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 6:50*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> > This is incorrect.
>
> I've got the documentation in google. Or did you figure out how to delete
> it, John?

Well let's see it, GOIA!

[TT]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "TT" > wrote in message
> . au
>
>> I sincerely hope you do get the police involved.
>
> Thanks for the support, Terry.
Anytime Arns. Now dial 911 and report nasty people saying bad things to you
over the internet! Oh what the hell, why not take out 5 billion restraining
orders as well as I'm positive there are undiscovered tribes in New Guinea
that already dislike you!

TT

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:47:56 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 5:40*pm, Jenn > wrote:
>> MiNe 109 > wrote:
>> > In article
>> > >,
>> > *Boon > wrote:
>>
>> > > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
>> > > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
>> > > > business
>> > > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
>> > > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
>> > > > congratulations.
>>
>> > > Sorry, Bret. *I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
>> > > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>>
>> > Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>>
>> > Stephen
>>
>> No.
>>
>> If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
>> feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
>> this person? *
>>
>> If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
>> about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
>> years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
>> You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
>> my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
>> show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
>> I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
>> mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
>> "whining".
>>
>
> My family had a home intrusion when I was a kid. None of us were
>killed because my father had a .45. The intruder went to jail.

Good for you.

Your response marks the second dumbest in RAO, only a wee bit behind
Kroogly's in this thread.

I'm sure you go to bed with a gun under your pillow and another closer
to other parts of your anatomy.

Aren't you special?


Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), "Shhhh! I'm Listening to
Reason!" > wrote:

>On Feb 4, 6:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:08 -0600, MiNe 109
>> > wrote:
>
>> >Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>
>> Maybe. I don't know. I used to think there had to be a bottom, but now
>> I think it's just madness. He can't help himself. He's possessed,
>> whether he understands or not.
>
>I understand. In a similar vein I sometimes figure that 2pid cannot
>get any more imbecilic. He always proves me wrong too.

Agreed. It's all a bit weird. One comes here and encounters folk like
Arnie and 2pid and you figure it all has to be a role. Then you're
stunned when you realize you're encountering the real self (or rather,
the lack of self, a person so injured that without that specific role
they disappear).

They can't change, I suppose, because to give up the role is to die,
to be condemned to their real selves. I'm just speculating here, of
course. I don't really know.

Herbert

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
Herbert Hoover > wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), "Shhhh! I'm Listening to
> Reason!" > wrote:
>
> >On Feb 4, 6:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> >> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:08 -0600, MiNe 109
> >> > wrote:
> >
> >> >Could Arny get any more loathsome?
> >
> >> Maybe. I don't know. I used to think there had to be a bottom, but now
> >> I think it's just madness. He can't help himself. He's possessed,
> >> whether he understands or not.
> >
> >I understand. In a similar vein I sometimes figure that 2pid cannot
> >get any more imbecilic. He always proves me wrong too.
>
> Agreed. It's all a bit weird. One comes here and encounters folk like
> Arnie and 2pid and you figure it all has to be a role. Then you're
> stunned when you realize you're encountering the real self (or rather,
> the lack of self, a person so injured that without that specific role
> they disappear).
>
> They can't change, I suppose, because to give up the role is to die,
> to be condemned to their real selves. I'm just speculating here, of
> course. I don't really know.

Don't make me use the word "abnegation."

Stephen

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Feb 5, 7:50*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in message
>
> > On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
> >
> > This is incorrect.
>
> I've got the documentation in google.

In which case, you should invest a couple of hundred
dollars in a consultation with a lawyer specializing in
libel and defamation cases. Show him my postings,
along with the postings of yours to which I was
responding and he or she will be able to tell you if you
have a case. If you do, then there might be a hefty
payday in your future; if you don't, there is is no libel.

If you don't consult a lawyer, then you are, once
again, behaving as GOIA, making things up out of
whole cloth.

> Or did you figure out how to delete it, John?

I don't delete postings from the Usenet archive, Mr.
Krueger, nor do I post under any name than my own,
as you have also claimed, nor do I pay anyone to
harass or libel you, as you have also claimed.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:07:36 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

>
>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
>Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make sense out of the
>above.
>
>That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
>The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
>People who are trying to build credibility with the public don't need
>employees who act that way. They need to know when their trust is misplaced.
>
<gag>

<choke>

<spew>

Arnie, quick....keep it down.....Nurse Ratchet is coming.........



Herbert

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Feb 5, 7:50 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>> On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libeling me is
>>>> real.

>>> This is incorrect.

>> I've got the documentation in google.

> In which case, you should invest a couple of hundred
> dollars in a consultation with a lawyer specializing in
> libel and defamation cases. Show him my postings,
> along with the postings of yours to which I was
> responding and he or she will be able to tell you if you
> have a case. If you do, then there might be a hefty
> payday in your future; if you don't, there is is no libel.

The doubled "is" is a tell. ;-)

That's wrong John. You have a moral responsibility to make statements that
are reasonably true and not designed to rob others.

As usual John, you equate the truth with spending money.

Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong, while
ethics are the high water mark. By turning this moral question into a matter
of just the law, you are already way down the low road.


John, unless I see some evidence that your pockets are loosing depth, my
best strategy is to let you hang out even more rope for yourself to swing
from, speaking figuratively, of course. If my experience with Marc is any
guide, the more evil you think you have gotten away with, the more evil you
will do.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 10:21*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong, while
> ethics are the high water mark. By turning this moral question into a matter
> of just the law, you are already way down the low road.

A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a lecture on the
necessity of abstinence from the inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
Even if parts of it were accidentally true the underlying basis of
lies and hypocrisy would cause one to laugh.

> John, unless I see some evidence that your pockets are loosing depth,

GOIA, you are a "looser" of Biblical proportion. And you're insane to
boot! LOL!

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Feb 5, 10:21*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong, while
> > ethics are the high water mark. By turning this moral question into a matter
> > of just the law, you are already way down the low road.
>
> A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a lecture on the
> necessity of abstinence from the inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
> Even if parts of it were accidentally true the underlying basis of
> lies and hypocrisy would cause one to laugh.

Compare two recent quotes from Arny:
"Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong,
while ethics are the high water mark."

And referring to a guy who said that I should die who then showed up on
my doorstep in the night:
"That's legal until you tell him to leave."

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 5, 10:21 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Law is the low water mark of the difference between
>>> right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark.
>>> By turning this moral question into a matter of just
>>> the law, you are already way down the low road.

>> A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a
>> lecture on the necessity of abstinence from the
>> inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.

So says someone who is so ethical that they have to hide behind a nym.

>> Even if parts of it
>> were accidentally true the underlying basis of lies and
>> hypocrisy would cause one to laugh.

Especially coming from said coward.

> Compare two recent quotes from Arny:

> "Law is the low water mark of the difference between
> right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark."

> And referring to a guy who said that I should die who
> then showed up on my doorstep in the night:

> "That's legal until you tell him to leave."

Well Jenn, do you have a point of law or do you just want to whine? If you
think really hard and long, you just might be able to see how my two
comments relate to each other.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 10:44*am, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
> > On Feb 5, 10:21*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong, while
> > > ethics are the high water mark. By turning this moral question into a matter
> > > of just the law, you are already way down the low road.
>
> > A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a lecture on the
> > necessity of abstinence from the inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
> > Even if parts of it were accidentally true the underlying basis of
> > lies and hypocrisy would cause one to laugh.
>
> Compare two recent quotes from Arny:
> "Law is the low water mark of the difference between right and wrong,
> while ethics are the high water mark."
>
> And referring to a guy who said that I should die who then showed up on
> my doorstep in the night:
> "That's legal until you tell him to leave."

Well, duh!

He said one to you and the other to JA. Now that I've pointed that out
(and I'm surprised that I had to), surely you can see the difference.

And you could also add GOIA's quote about a threat on Usenet "legally"
being assault, which totally justified ;-) and made 'right' ;-) GOIA
calling Boon's employer. But GOIA said that to Boon, so there's
another difference.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:05 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

<usual Kroo garbage snipped>

>John, unless I see some evidence that your pockets are loosing depth, my
>best strategy is to let you hang out even more rope for yourself to swing
>from, speaking figuratively, of course. If my experience with Marc is any
>guide, the more evil you think you have gotten away with, the more evil you
>will do.
>

What experience would that be, Oh smallest member?

To have experience you have to *do* something.

Oh.

That's right.

You called Marc's employer

You know, you were a rat ******* before you did that. You really
didn't have to go to all that trouble just to re-earn that sobriquet.

Herbert

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 05:14, "Iain Churches" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> news:153136757255482362.203466jennconductsREMOVETH ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > MiNe 109 > wrote:
> >> In article
> >> >,
> >> *Boon > wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 4, 10:34?am, Boon > wrote:
> >> > > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my
> >> > > business
> >> > > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> >> > > farewell. ?And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig),
> >> > > congratulations.
>
> >> > Sorry, Bret. *I just saw the actual email, and it's straight from
> >> > Arny. It was a miscommunication over the phone.
>
> >> Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>
> >> Stephen
>
> > No.
>
> > If shown to be true, this is yet another low in an already bottom
> > feeding "career". Does anyone need a better reason to stop responding to
> > this person?
>
> > If so, let me offer one. The "whining" that he recently referred to
> > about usenet threats has,of course, a backstory, untold by Arny. A few
> > years ago, a person threatened me online, say that I was a "f-ing dyke.
> > You should die". He showed up hours later at my front door. This after
> > my sister was murdered by a home intruder. I once told the story here to
> > show empathy to Arny about his loss of a family member. For my trouble,
> > I was told by him that it was my fault because I probably made the perp
> > mad online. And now, all these years later, he says that I was
> > "whining".
>
> > How "loathsome" can he get you aak? *There's always a new low, it seems.
>
> Jenn. *What I find so odious is the the cloak of pseudo-religion
> that Mr Krueger wraps around himself.
>
> I think it is commendable that the rest of us here keep our religious
> beliefs to ourselves. *I see it as a personal thing between the individual
> and his/her God.
>
> At the same time,. I am also a firm believer in Karma, in that the
> effectsts of all deeds actively create past, present, and future
> experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life,
> and the pain and joy it brings to him/her and others.
>
> IOW. What goes around......
>
> Iain-

floobydust!!!!
as much as Christianity is floobydust

but if it makes you feel better to believe in Karma, more
power to you.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:56:47 -0600, MiNe 109
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:08:02 -0800 (PST), "Shhhh! I'm Listening to
>> Reason!" > wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 4, 6:41*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:14:08 -0600, MiNe 109
>> >> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Could Arny get any more loathsome?
>> >
>> >> Maybe. I don't know. I used to think there had to be a bottom, but now
>> >> I think it's just madness. He can't help himself. He's possessed,
>> >> whether he understands or not.
>> >
>> >I understand. In a similar vein I sometimes figure that 2pid cannot
>> >get any more imbecilic. He always proves me wrong too.
>>
>> Agreed. It's all a bit weird. One comes here and encounters folk like
>> Arnie and 2pid and you figure it all has to be a role. Then you're
>> stunned when you realize you're encountering the real self (or rather,
>> the lack of self, a person so injured that without that specific role
>> they disappear).
>>
>> They can't change, I suppose, because to give up the role is to die,
>> to be condemned to their real selves. I'm just speculating here, of
>> course. I don't really know.
>
>Don't make me use the word "abnegation."
>
>Stephen

Well, I already know you *know* how to use that word in a sentence.

Does Arnie?

Herbert

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 10:51*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 5, 10:21 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Law is the low water mark of the difference between
> >>> right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark.
> >>> By turning this moral question into a matter of just
> >>> the law, you are already way down the low road.
> >> A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a
> >> lecture on the necessity of abstinence from the
> >> inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
>
> So says someone who is so ethical that they have to hide behind a nym.

And you have shown exactly why, GOIA: there are insane assholes out
there. LOL!

But what that has to do with ethics is beyond me. Are you saying that
every author who has a pen name, or every actor who has a stage name,
is unethical?

Do explain <yawn>. We all look forward to your lectures on 'ethics'
and 'honesty'.

> >> *Even if parts of it
> >> were accidentally true the underlying basis of lies and
> >> hypocrisy would cause one to laugh.
>
> Especially coming from said coward.

See above, crazy guy. LOL!

> > Compare two recent quotes from Arny:
> > "Law is the low water mark of the difference between
> > right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark."
> > And referring to a guy who said that I should die who
> > then showed up on my doorstep in the night:
> > "That's legal until you tell him to leave."
>
> Well Jenn, do you have a point of law or do you just want to whine? If you
> think really hard and long, you just might be able to see how my two
> comments relate to each other.

Duh. Dumb and insane is not a very compelling combination, GOIA.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:16:38 +0900, "TT" >
wrote:

>
>"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>> "TT" > wrote in message
>> . au
>>
>>> I sincerely hope you do get the police involved.
>>
>> Thanks for the support, Terry.
>Anytime Arns. Now dial 911 and report nasty people saying bad things to you
>over the internet! Oh what the hell, why not take out 5 billion restraining
>orders as well as I'm positive there are undiscovered tribes in New Guinea
>that already dislike you!
>
>TT

LOL!


I don't think he needs to go quite that far, TT.

OTOH, you're quite right about the 5 billion. I hear the Chinese use
Arnie as motivation for competing with the rest of the World.


Herbert

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> > and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> > will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make sense out of the
> above.
>
> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> People who are trying to build credibility with the public don't need
> employees who act that way. They need to know when their trust is misplaced.

Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
lots of money. You went real world on him.
I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
But I would support a Phillips suit.

You can say what you want on Usenet,
but IF you EVER **** with me in the
real world, I will pay you back three times over.
And it will be a lot nastier than a lawsuit.

I think others here would do the same to you,
if you went real world on them.

So, is this a threat? Yes, but only
applicable if you take real world
actions against my interests.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Feb 5, 10:51 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 10:21 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Law is the low water mark of the difference between
>>>>> right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark.
>>>>> By turning this moral question into a matter of just
>>>>> the law, you are already way down the low road.
>>>> A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a
>>>> lecture on the necessity of abstinence from the
>>>> inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
>>
>> So says someone who is so ethical that they have to hide
>> behind a nym.

<no reasoanble response received>

[Arny Krueger]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

> On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
>>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
>>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>>
>> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
>> sense out of the above.
>>
>> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>>
>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>>
>> People who are trying to build credibility with the
>> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
>> to know when their trust is misplaced.

> Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
> lots of money. You went real world on him.

A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.

> I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
> he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
> But I would support a Phillips suit.

Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. If Marc ever
files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
on assault runs out.

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Feb 5, 11:21*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in message

> > On Feb 5, 7:50 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:[i]
> >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in message
>
> >>> On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libeling me is
> >>>> real.
> >>>
> >>> This is incorrect.
> >>
> >> I've got the documentation in google.
> >
> > In which case, you should invest a couple of hundred
> > dollars in a consultation with a lawyer specializing in
> > libel and defamation cases. Show him my postings,
> > along with the postings of yours to which I was
> > responding and he or she will be able to tell you if you
> > have a case. If you do, then there might be a hefty
> > payday in your future; if you don't, there no libel.
>
> That's wrong John. You have a moral responsibility to
> make statements that are reasonably true and not
> designed to rob others.

That may be true, Mr. Kreger, but what does it have to do
with your statement that there is "a pattern" of my
having libeled you as evidence by the Google Usenet
archive? So far, you have not managed to retrieve any
example of my having "libeled" you from that archive.

> As usual John, you equate the truth with spending money.

I merely raised the matter of a lawsuit, Mr. Krueger, because
given your impecunious circumstances and the recent
evidence of your willingness to take action in "meat space"
as opposed to cyberspace, if I _had_ libeled you as you
seem to believe, you could be awared a tidy sum of cash.

> Law is the low water mark of the difference between right
> and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark. By turning
> this moral question into a matter of just the law, you are
> already way down the low road.

Really? So all people who beome involved in legal action
are "taking the low road," Mr. Krueger?

> John, unless I see some evidence that your pockets are loosing
> depth...

My pants are definitely not as loose as I would wish :-)

> my best strategy is to let you hang out even more rope for
> yourself to swing from, speaking figuratively, of course.

But as of yet, Mtr Krueger, you have not shown anyone even
a piece of thread, let alone a whole length of rope.

> If my experience with Marc is any guide, the more evil you
> think you have gotten away with, the more evil you will do.

"Evil?" So when I correctly point out that contrary to your claims
on the Australian group that I defaulted on a debt to you, I
don't owe you any money, I am committing "evil" or libeling you?
When I correctly point out that, contrary to your claim that you
are an author with one or more technical papers published in
academic journals, there are no such papers authored or
co-authored by you, I am committing "evil" or libeling you?
That when I find out that, contrary to your repeated assertions
that you are a "professional" engineer," you have never earned
your living as a recording engineer, nor have you even had any
commercial CD or LP releases that featured your efforts, I am
again committing "evil" or libeling you?

Either you have a sophisticated sense of humor, Mr.
Krueger, or..., well I just don't what you are. As I said,
you believe you have evidence that I have libeled you,
go see a lawyer.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 11:16*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 10:51 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >,
> >>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> On Feb 5, 10:21 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Law is the low water mark of the difference between
> >>>>> right and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark.
> >>>>> By turning this moral question into a matter of just
> >>>>> the law, you are already way down the low road.
> >>>> A lecture on ethics and honesty from GOIA is like a
> >>>> lecture on the necessity of abstinence from the
> >>>> inhabitants of the Mustang Ranch.
>
> >> So says someone who is so ethical that they have to hide
> >> behind a nym.
>
> <no reasoanble (Score!) response received>

I see that you are unable to formulate a rational reason why
"anonymity" and "ethics" are coupled.

I just *knew* you couldn't, GOIA. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 11:19*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> >>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> >>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> >> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
> >> sense out of the above.
>
> >> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> >> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> >> People who are trying to build credibility with the
> >> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
> >> to know when their trust is misplaced.
> > Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
> > lots of money. You went real world on him.
>
> A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.
>
> > I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
> > he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
> > But I would support a Phillips suit.
>
> Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. *If Marc ever
> files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
> would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
> assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
> on assault runs out.

The law is such a low bar for ethics. LOL!

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Boon" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> > associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> > farewell.
>
>
> That comes like a thunderbolt from a clear blue sky.
> I recalll no post in which Boon made such a threat.
> Did he?

I am unaware of any such threats.

I thought Arny was disgusting before this event, but I had no idea he
could sink to such loathsome depths.

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

> > They can't change, I suppose, because to give up the role is to die,
> > to be condemned to their real selves. I'm just speculating here, of
> > course. I don't really know.
>
> Don't make me use the word "abnegation."

Krooger prefers snottification.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> Gahead: tell me how "threatened" you felt, or feel, by what goes on
> here. Gahead: tell me why if you truly feel threatened you choose to
> stay.

If Arnii really feared for his safety, he would file a criminal complaint
with law enforcement. Of course, they'd probably want more evidence than a
"debating trade" distortion of a Usenet post. I wonder what's stopping Arnii
from forging a whole pile of "threatening" posts replete with actual death
threats.

> You're the sicko, GOIA. You aren't fooling anybody (except maybe 2pid).

Has Bratzi wised up? Last I saw, he was still portraying Mr. **** as a
victim.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> Has Bratzi wised up? Last I saw, he was still portraying Mr. **** as a
> victim.

Good question, especially since the Big Turd was ready to let Bratzi
take the fall for the complaint against Marc.

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Turdborg has a false epiphany.

> >> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling[sic] me is real.
> >
> > This is incorrect.
>
> I've got the documentation in google. Or did you figure out how to delete
> it, John?

If you're talking about when John opined that you're insane, he was
absolutely right. You are insane. It's not libelous to describe somebody
accurately.

It might be libelous to accuse you of eating human babies. Please assure us
you don't do that so that we know for sure. After all, it's your own
documented stance that any thought you might express about somebody else is
likely to be true unless and until you see "proof" it's not true.

So carry on eating your turd collection, Arnii. We know you have no
tolerance for human food. ;-)




--

Words don't have just one meaning.
Combinations of words don't have just one meaning.
A. Krooger, 9 December 2008

Since everything I write defines what Krooglish is, there are no first tries.
A. Krooger, 22 July 2003

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Scottie is apparently jealous of all the attention being lavished on Arnii
Kroofeces, so he cranks up his Little Poochie Lie Machine.

> > George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
> > people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>
> Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.

It is only unknown to retards and morons like you.

> George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
> with his Phoebe campaign.

My "Phoebe campaign"? What the **** is a "Phoebe campaign", you imbecilic
pea-brained moronic meathead?

It's astonishing that after ten years and maybe fifty accountings of who
actually got Phoebe Johnston in trouble at work, you still can't understand
any of it. Doesn't it bother you to have the functional intellect of a
six-year-old even though you're (allegedly) a fully grown adult?



--

"It is you who are completely unaware of what I perceive until
I choose to tell you. I rarely do."
-- Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, Feb. 3 2009

[Arny Krueger]

"Bill" > wrote in message


> Good question, especially since the my master and commander was ready to
> let Bratzi take the fall for the complaint against Marc.

What fall? Whoever did it, whether one person or however many, was simply
taking a hazard off the road. RAO is one of the few places on the web where
Marc is not known as a nasty little piece of work.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg lied:

> > > Has Bratzi wised up? Last I saw, he was still portraying Mr. **** as a victim.

> > Good question, especially since the my master and commander was ready to
> > let Bratzi take the fall for the complaint against Marc.

> What fall? Whoever did it, whether one person or however many,

The "whoever" here is none other than Arnii Krooger. Marc has provided
several people with the email received by Jeff at Tone Publications. It has
your name and your email address. Either you sent it or somebody else forged
your address. Which is it, Turdborg?

[N.B. Since that is a simple either-or question, I know it is impossible for
Mr. **** to answer it directly.]

Arnii, you've now made enemies of every single RAO poster and lurker. By
trying to get somebody in real-world trouble over Usenet posts, you've moved
into Bwian McCarthy territory, and you've earned Full Psycho Status. It's
just too bad your alleged wife and your alleged pastor don't know of your
filthy Usenet persona. But maybe they'll have an opportunity to learn soon.

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 9:12*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 5:29*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>> > > "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > > On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > >>> On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> > > >>> wrote:
>> > > >>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > >>>>> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
>> > > >>>>> kill the group.
>>
>> > > >>>> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't
>> > > >>>> noticed that RAO is already dead, and has been for
>> > > >>>> several years.
>> > > >>>> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping
>> > > >>>> RAO in its current state. :-(
>> > > >>> You know better than that.
>> > > >> Do I?
>> > > > *You should.
>>
>> > > What I know Scott is that you seem to like being called stupid.
>>
>> > *LoL. *I don't care what some people call me.
>> > *You seem to want everyone to disparage you with cause.
>>
>> LoL. There hasn't been any up until now?
>>
>> > > >>> But Usenet if full of dead
>> > > >>> groups and once they go silent, they rarely recover.
>> > > >> Better to be silent than a cesspool.
>> > > > *Perhaps, I don't think the cesspool is permanent yet
>> > > > though
>>
>> > > The cesspool is permanent as long as there is a Middiot.
>>
>> > *He can't live forever.
>>
>> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
>> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>
>Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
>George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
>with his Phoebe campaign.
>
>ScottW

No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.


Herbert

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Witlessmongrel shows his customary inability to say anything
incomprehensible.

> > > George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
> > > with his Phoebe campaign.
> >
> > My "Phoebe campaign"? What the **** is a "Phoebe campaign", you imbecilic
> > pea-brained moronic meathead?
>
> I'm sorry. Did I diminish your efforts? Perhaps vendetta is more to
> your liking?
> Or perhaps allout war of the scorched earth variety?

Apparently not even you know what you "meant" when you said "Phoebe
campaign". How pathetic is that?

> > It's astonishing that after ten years and maybe fifty accountings of who
> > actually got Phoebe Johnston in trouble at work, you still can't understand
> > any of it. Doesn't it bother you to have the functional intellect of a
> > six-year-old even though you're (allegedly) a fully grown adult?
>
> Pardon me for not devoting even a fraction of the time you
> spend on RAO.

I do not pardon you, Witless. Nobody does. You're nothing but a yapping dog
who should be leashed. You bark and yap and growl without any inhibition.
You have no idea what meaning you intend with the words you bark.

Since you accused me of ****ing with Phoebe, I feel justified in revealing
how you tried to destroy Jenn's standing at her college. Why did you send
those "anonymous" emails? Luckily for Jenn, her employer has Usenet-savvy
investigators who were able to figure out that you're a complete loser.






--

"It is you who are completely unaware of what I perceive until
I choose to tell you. I rarely do."
-- Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, Feb. 3 2009

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:19:34 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message

>> On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
>>>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
>>>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>>>
>>> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
>>> sense out of the above.
>>>
>>> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>>>
>>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>>>
>>> People who are trying to build credibility with the
>>> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
>>> to know when their trust is misplaced.
>
>> Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
>> lots of money. You went real world on him.
>
>A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.
>
>> I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
>> he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
>> But I would support a Phillips suit.
>
>Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. If Marc ever
>files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
>would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
>assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
>on assault runs out.
>
>
Dear Arnold,

You're insane, and you've severely underestimated the
consequences of your actions. Right now I wouldn't want to be you for
all the tea in China.

There'll be no more talk about this from my end. You, of
course, can spew all you want. That all becomes part of the record,
every insane, crazed paranoid mumbling.

The next you hear about this will be in court. My fondest hope
is that we'll leave you bankrupt and bereft in the snow, without
anything left to your name. If your wife and children stay with you
after all that will be revealed through simple discovery in the
litigation process I would be astonished. Every single nasty thing
you've ever said or done will be part of the *public* record.

You're going to be apologizing to a lot of people for a long,
long time Mr. Krueger. This has gone on too long, and needs to be
stopped, and we'll do it legally and with as much force as we can
muster. Win or lose, the process will bankrupt you, Mr. Krueger.

You're going to be shunned, Mr. Krueger, not just here but
everywhere because everyone will finally know you for who and what you
are.

Herbert

[TT]

"Herbert Hoover" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:16:38 +0900, "TT" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>>> "TT" > wrote in message
>>> . au
>>>
>>>> I sincerely hope you do get the police involved.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the support, Terry.
>>Anytime Arns. Now dial 911 and report nasty people saying bad things to
>>you
>>over the internet! Oh what the hell, why not take out 5 billion
>>restraining
>>orders as well as I'm positive there are undiscovered tribes in New Guinea
>>that already dislike you!
>>
>>TT
>
> LOL!
>
>
> I don't think he needs to go quite that far, TT.
>
> OTOH, you're quite right about the 5 billion. I hear the Chinese use
> Arnie as motivation for competing with the rest of the World.
>
>
> Herbert
>
Perhaps it could work in our favour? If we can convince the Chinese that
the "Western White Trash" are typified by Arny then they will believe they
won't have to try as hard any more :-))

Cheers TT

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> The "whoever" here is none other than Arnii Krooger. Marc has provided
> several people with the email received by Jeff at Tone Publications. It has
> your name and your email address. Either you sent it or somebody else forged
> your address. Which is it, Turdborg?
>
> [N.B. Since that is a simple either-or question, I know it is impossible for
> Mr. **** to answer it directly.]
>
> Arnii, you've now made enemies of every single RAO poster and lurker.

Does this elicit a "Score!!" from Mr. ****? It does seem to be his
overall goal after all.

--
Bill

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:50:32 +0900, "TT" >
wrote:

>
>"Herbert Hoover" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:16:38 +0900, "TT" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
>>>> "TT" > wrote in message
>>>> . au
>>>>
>>>>> I sincerely hope you do get the police involved.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the support, Terry.
>>>Anytime Arns. Now dial 911 and report nasty people saying bad things to
>>>you
>>>over the internet! Oh what the hell, why not take out 5 billion
>>>restraining
>>>orders as well as I'm positive there are undiscovered tribes in New Guinea
>>>that already dislike you!
>>>
>>>TT
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>
>> I don't think he needs to go quite that far, TT.
>>
>> OTOH, you're quite right about the 5 billion. I hear the Chinese use
>> Arnie as motivation for competing with the rest of the World.
>>
>>
>> Herbert
>>
>Perhaps it could work in our favour? If we can convince the Chinese that
>the "Western White Trash" are typified by Arny then they will believe they
>won't have to try as hard any more :-))
>
>Cheers TT
>
Too effing good, TT! I need to stop and catch my breath....

Herbert

[TT]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
...
On Feb 5, 11:21 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in message

> > On Feb 5, 7:50 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:[i]
> >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in message
>
> >>> On Feb 5, 6:07 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libeling me is
> >>>> real.
> >>>
> >>> This is incorrect.
> >>
> >> I've got the documentation in google.
> >
> > In which case, you should invest a couple of hundred
> > dollars in a consultation with a lawyer specializing in
> > libel and defamation cases. Show him my postings,
> > along with the postings of yours to which I was
> > responding and he or she will be able to tell you if you
> > have a case. If you do, then there might be a hefty
> > payday in your future; if you don't, there no libel.
>
> That's wrong John. You have a moral responsibility to
> make statements that are reasonably true and not
> designed to rob others.

That may be true, Mr. Kreger, but what does it have to do
with your statement that there is "a pattern" of my
having libeled you as evidence by the Google Usenet
archive? So far, you have not managed to retrieve any
example of my having "libeled" you from that archive.

> As usual John, you equate the truth with spending money.

I merely raised the matter of a lawsuit, Mr. Krueger, because
given your impecunious circumstances and the recent
evidence of your willingness to take action in "meat space"
as opposed to cyberspace, if I _had_ libeled you as you
seem to believe, you could be awared a tidy sum of cash.

> Law is the low water mark of the difference between right
> and wrong, while ethics are the high water mark. By turning
> this moral question into a matter of just the law, you are
> already way down the low road.

Really? So all people who beome involved in legal action
are "taking the low road," Mr. Krueger?

> John, unless I see some evidence that your pockets are loosing
> depth...

My pants are definitely not as loose as I would wish :-)

> my best strategy is to let you hang out even more rope for
> yourself to swing from, speaking figuratively, of course.

But as of yet, Mtr Krueger, you have not shown anyone even
a piece of thread, let alone a whole length of rope.

> If my experience with Marc is any guide, the more evil you
> think you have gotten away with, the more evil you will do.

"Evil?" So when I correctly point out that contrary to your claims
on the Australian group that I defaulted on a debt to you, I
don't owe you any money, I am committing "evil" or libeling you?
When I correctly point out that, contrary to your claim that you
are an author with one or more technical papers published in
academic journals, there are no such papers authored or
co-authored by you, I am committing "evil" or libeling you?
That when I find out that, contrary to your repeated assertions
that you are a "professional" engineer," you have never earned
your living as a recording engineer, nor have you even had any
commercial CD or LP releases that featured your efforts, I am
again committing "evil" or libeling you?

Either you have a sophisticated sense of humor, Mr.
Krueger, or..., well I just don't what you are. As I said,
you believe you have evidence that I have libeled you,
go see a lawyer.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile


Ahhhh but John he would then be taking the "low road" ;-) This insane,
demented, lying, low life, couldn't then Klaim (sic) the moral high ground
that his twisted psych demands. Being a practicing, full time hypocrite and
general, all round, arsehole sort of guy that he is he can milk this for
more mileage doing the "injured party" song and dance he is so good at.
Just look at the KP incident he is still milking 10 years later.

He is an attention seeker! This is the only NG I will actually reply to
post to him on and actively discourage anyone else from entering into a
discussion with him. He is considered a joke and a sad sack of **** from
one end of Usenet to the other by everyone that knows of him.

I am still waiting to find one identifiable human being that will actually
stand up and defend him and any of his deplorable actions.

The challenge is still there!

As for yourself and Marc or anyone else that has been intimidated by Arny
you can call on all of Usenet as character witnesses in any "low ground"
action that may occur. Of course the reverse also applies if Arny was to be
charged with anything but again he can always plead insanity and get off ;-)

Arny loves playing the victim. 'nuff said ;-)

Cheers TT

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:43:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
wrote:

>On Feb 5, 12:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Feb 4, 9:12*pm, ScottW > wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 4, 5:29*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >> > > > On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> > >
>>
>> >> > > >>> On Feb 4, 12:39 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>> >> > > >>> wrote:
>> >> > > >>>> "ScottW" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> > >
>>
>> >> > > >>>>> Taking the BS here real world is the quickest way to
>> >> > > >>>>> kill the group.
>>
>> >> > > >>>> And the problem with that would be? I guess you haven't
>> >> > > >>>> noticed that RAO is already dead, and has been for
>> >> > > >>>> several years.
>> >> > > >>>> Thanks Scott for confirming your commitment to keeping
>> >> > > >>>> RAO in its current state. :-(
>> >> > > >>> You know better than that.
>> >> > > >> Do I?
>> >> > > > *You should.
>>
>> >> > > What I know Scott is that you seem to like being called stupid.
>>
>> >> > *LoL. *I don't care what some people call me.
>> >> > *You seem to want everyone to disparage you with cause.
>>
>> >> LoL. There hasn't been any up until now?
>>
>> >> > > >>> But Usenet if full of dead
>> >> > > >>> groups and once they go silent, they rarely recover.
>> >> > > >> Better to be silent than a cesspool.
>> >> > > > *Perhaps, I don't think the cesspool is permanent yet
>> >> > > > though
>>
>> >> > > The cesspool is permanent as long as there is a Middiot.
>>
>> >> > *He can't live forever.
>>
>> >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
>> >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>>
>> >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
>> >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
>> >with his Phoebe campaign.
>>
>> >ScottW
>>
>> No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
>> repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.
>
> What do you mean "off-line"? Were Arny's e-mails "off-line"?
>I have no reason to disbelieve JJ.
>
>ScottW

I'll spell it out for you. Off-line means taking action outside of RAO
confines. No one cares about nasty e-mails Arnold may have sent Marc.

Further, while JJ at one time believed George may have been the
criminal who caused him so much trouble, he came to accept that
George, was, in fact, NOT the guy who caused all the ruckus.

Herbert

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 12:19, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> >>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> >>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> >> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
> >> sense out of the above.
>
> >> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> >> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> >> People who are trying to build credibility with the
> >> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
> >> to know when their trust is misplaced.
> > Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
> > lots of money. You went real world on him.
>
> A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.
>
> > I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
> > he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
> > But I would support a Phillips suit.
>
> Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. *If Marc ever
> files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
> would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
> assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
> on assault runs out.-

One little flaw, he hasn't assaulted you

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 16:09, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:19:34 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
> >> On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> >>>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> >>>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> >>> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
> >>> sense out of the above.
>
> >>> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> >>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> >>> People who are trying to build credibility with the
> >>> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
> >>> to know when their trust is misplaced.
>
> >> Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
> >> lots of money. You went real world on him.
>
> >A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.
>
> >> I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
> >> he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
> >> But I would support a Phillips suit.
>
> >Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. *If Marc ever
> >files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
> >would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
> >assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
> >on assault runs out.
>
> Dear Arnold,
>
> * * * * You're insane, and you've severely underestimated the
> consequences of your actions. Right now I wouldn't want to be you for
> all the tea in China.
>
> * * * * There'll be no more talk about this from my end. You, of
> course, can spew all you want. That all becomes part of the record,
> every insane, crazed paranoid mumbling.
>
> * * * * The next you hear about this will be in court. My fondest hope
> is that we'll leave you bankrupt and bereft in the snow, without
> anything left to your name. If your wife and children stay with you
> after all that will be revealed through simple discovery in the
> litigation process I would be astonished. Every single nasty thing
> you've ever said or done will be part of the *public* record.
>
> * * * * You're going to be apologizing to a lot of people for a long,
> long time Mr. Krueger. This has gone on too long, and needs to be
> stopped, and we'll do it legally and with as much force as we can
> muster. Win or lose, the process will bankrupt you, Mr. Krueger.
>
> * * * * You're going to be shunned, Mr. Krueger, not just here but
> everywhere because everyone will finally know you for who and what you
> are.
>
> Herbert-

His last hope of safe haven is if one of the
SWMWTMS fellows takes pity on him and lets him sleep on the sofa.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

> > on assault runs out.-
>
> One little flaw, he hasn't assaulted you

Krooger is using the "debating trade" definition of "proof".

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:47:28 -0800 (PST), Clyde Slick
> wrote:

>On 5 Feb, 16:09, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:19:34 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>> >>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
>> >>>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
>> >>>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>>
>> >>> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
>> >>> sense out of the above.
>>
>> >>> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>>
>> >>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>>
>> >>> People who are trying to build credibility with the
>> >>> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
>> >>> to know when their trust is misplaced.
>>
>> >> Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
>> >> lots of money. You went real world on him.
>>
>> >A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world.
>>
>> >> I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
>> >> he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
>> >> But I would support a Phillips suit.
>>
>> >Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. *If Marc ever
>> >files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
>> >would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
>> >assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
>> >on assault runs out.
>>
>> Dear Arnold,
>>
>> * * * * You're insane, and you've severely underestimated the
>> consequences of your actions. Right now I wouldn't want to be you for
>> all the tea in China.
>>
>> * * * * There'll be no more talk about this from my end. You, of
>> course, can spew all you want. That all becomes part of the record,
>> every insane, crazed paranoid mumbling.
>>
>> * * * * The next you hear about this will be in court. My fondest hope
>> is that we'll leave you bankrupt and bereft in the snow, without
>> anything left to your name. If your wife and children stay with you
>> after all that will be revealed through simple discovery in the
>> litigation process I would be astonished. Every single nasty thing
>> you've ever said or done will be part of the *public* record.
>>
>> * * * * You're going to be apologizing to a lot of people for a long,
>> long time Mr. Krueger. This has gone on too long, and needs to be
>> stopped, and we'll do it legally and with as much force as we can
>> muster. Win or lose, the process will bankrupt you, Mr. Krueger.
>>
>> * * * * You're going to be shunned, Mr. Krueger, not just here but
>> everywhere because everyone will finally know you for who and what you
>> are.
>>
>> Herbert-
>
>His last hope of safe haven is if one of the
>SWMWTMS fellows takes pity on him and lets him sleep on the sofa.

I love the thought, Clyde, but I'll confess to ignorance about
whatever the hell SWMWTMS might be.

Herbert

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 2:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
> wrote:

> >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > wrote:

> >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
> >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>
> >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
> >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
> >with his Phoebe campaign.

> No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
> repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.

Who's this "Phoebe" chick? Is she cute? (If "yes", a follow-on: is she
single?)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 1:27*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> * So why do you speculate on what you don't know?
> * Clearly to be a really good guy, right?

It's like he's a Democrat or something, isn't it, 2pid?

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:29:45 -0800 (PST), "Shhhh! I'm Listening to
Reason!" > wrote:

>On Feb 5, 2:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
>> wrote:
>
>> >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>> > wrote:
>
>> >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
>> >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>>
>> >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
>> >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
>> >with his Phoebe campaign.
>
>> No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
>> repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.
>
>Who's this "Phoebe" chick? Is she cute? (If "yes", a follow-on: is she
>single?)

<can't type for laughing>


Herbert

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:30:46 -0800, Jenn > wrote:

>In article
>,
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
>
>> On Feb 5, 2:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
>> > >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>> >
>> > >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
>> > >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
>> > >with his Phoebe campaign.
>>
>> > No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
>> > repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.
>>
>> Who's this "Phoebe" chick? Is she cute? (If "yes", a follow-on: is she
>> single?)
>
>Yeah, is she? (just kidding)

Well....if you like beards (literally) This particular Phoebe was one
of the folk who helped invent the MP3



Herbert

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 19:14, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:47:28 -0800 (PST), Clyde Slick
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On 5 Feb, 16:09, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:19:34 -0500, "Arny Krueger" >
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> >> On 5 Feb, 06:07, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> >>> "Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >> >>>> as long as you falsely accuse people of horrific acts
> >> >>>> and as long as you write eials to people's boses, you
> >> >>>> will liove in fear of lawsuits.
>
> >> >>> Sorry nym, but you are obvously hysterical. I can't make
> >> >>> sense out of the above.
>
> >> >>> That Marc made a death threat against me is real.
>
> >> >>> The John Atkinson has a pattern of libelling me is real.
>
> >> >>> People who are trying to build credibility with the
> >> >>> public don't need employees who act that way. They need
> >> >>> to know when their trust is misplaced.
>
> >> >> Boon has real grounds to sue you, for
> >> >> lots of money. You went real world on him.
>
> >> >A shame that Marc had to finally behave like he was in the real world..
>
> >> >> I didn't suppot the Wheeler suit, where
> >> >> he sued you for what you said on Usenet.
> >> >> But I would support a Phillips suit.
>
> >> >Little point of law that you don't seem to know, grasshopper. *If Marc ever
> >> >files a suit against me, he would have to put his home address on it. Then I
> >> >would be able to file a criminal complaint against him on the grounds of
> >> >assault. He's not safe from his own crimes until the statute of limitations
> >> >on assault runs out.
>
> >> Dear Arnold,
>
> >> * * * * You're insane, and you've severely underestimated the
> >> consequences of your actions. Right now I wouldn't want to be you for
> >> all the tea in China.
>
> >> * * * * There'll be no more talk about this from my end. You, of
> >> course, can spew all you want. That all becomes part of the record,
> >> every insane, crazed paranoid mumbling.
>
> >> * * * * The next you hear about this will be in court. My fondest hope
> >> is that we'll leave you bankrupt and bereft in the snow, without
> >> anything left to your name. If your wife and children stay with you
> >> after all that will be revealed through simple discovery in the
> >> litigation process I would be astonished. Every single nasty thing
> >> you've ever said or done will be part of the *public* record.
>
> >> * * * * You're going to be apologizing to a lot of people for a long,
> >> long time Mr. Krueger. This has gone on too long, and needs to be
> >> stopped, and we'll do it legally and with as much force as we can
> >> muster. Win or lose, the process will bankrupt you, Mr. Krueger.
>
> >> * * * * You're going to be shunned, Mr. Krueger, not just here but
> >> everywhere because everyone will finally know you for who and what you
> >> are.
>
> >> Herbert-
>
> >His last hope of safe haven is if one of the
> >SWMWTMS fellows takes pity on him and lets him sleep on the sofa.
>
> I love the thought, Clyde, but I'll confess to ignorance about
> whatever the hell SWMWTMS might be.
>
> Herbert-


sorry, it is SMWTMS
http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/smwtms.htm

[Clyde Slick]

On 5 Feb, 19:29, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
> > wrote:
> > >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > wrote:
> > >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
> > >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
>
> > >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
> > >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
> > >with his Phoebe campaign.
> > No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
> > repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.
>
> Who's this "Phoebe" chick? Is she cute? (If "yes", a follow-on: is she
> single?)

too bad, 'she' is already hooked up with Margaret von Bustenhalter

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
Herbert Hoover > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:30:46 -0800, Jenn > wrote:
>
> >In article
> >,
> > "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 5, 2:46*pm, Herbert Hoover > wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST), ScottW >
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > >On Feb 4, 10:56*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> >> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> George pokes fun at people in a newsgroup. GOIA calls or emails
> >> > >> people's employers. Has George taken anything offline here?
> >> >
> >> > >Unknown, someone filed a complaint with JJs employer.
> >> > >George certainly showed a deepseated rage against him
> >> > >with his Phoebe campaign.
> >>
> >> > No. It's known. There were many, bitter RAO exchanges, but nothing, I
> >> > repeat nothing, ever happened off-line.
> >>
> >> Who's this "Phoebe" chick? Is she cute? (If "yes", a follow-on: is she
> >> single?)
> >
> >Yeah, is she? (just kidding)
>
> Well....if you like beards (literally) This particular Phoebe was one
> of the folk who helped invent the MP3
>
>
>
> Herbert

Never mind ;-)

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:45:48 -0800 (PST), Clyde Slick
> wrote:

<snipped for brevity>
>>
>> >His last hope of safe haven is if one of the
>> >SWMWTMS fellows takes pity on him and lets him sleep on the sofa.
>>
>> I love the thought, Clyde, but I'll confess to ignorance about
>> whatever the hell SWMWTMS might be.
>>
>> Herbert-
>
>
>sorry, it is SMWTMS
>http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/smwtms.htm

O MY Effing God! I had completely forgotten about this, Clyde. Truth
be told, I wouldn't have remembered even if you had gotten the Acronym
right the first time, but I remember it now. Thanks for the reference.

Personally, I don;t think any of 'em would let him have the sofa.
Maybe he'd fit inside of a Sousaphone?

Herbert

[Sophistic]

Pudge the Gimp minced:

> Witlessmongrel shows his customary inability to say anything incomprehensible.

Irony can be pretty ironic, eh, pudgy-wudgy?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Feb 5, 8:50*pm, "Soporific" > wrote:
> George stated eloquently:
>
> > Witlessmongrel shows his customary inability to say anything incomprehensible.
>
> Irony can be pretty ironic, eh, pudgy-wudgy?

Being starved for humor can make you pretty hungry for humor, eh,
sugar?

[GeoSynch]

remember this "calvin coolidge"?

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
> Well, since one of you felt it necessary to send emails to my business
> associates about me "making death threats" to Arny, I bid you all
> farewell. And to the guy who did it (Bret Ludwig), congratulations.
>
> Boon