Turntable question for Marc

[Bill[_16_]]

Hi Marc,

I was wondering if you've ever had a chance to review/listen to any of
the Audio Note turntables?

A local hi-fi dealer that I've got an excellent relationship with can
get me quite a price break on a TT1 and he feels that I'll find it a
huge upgrade over my current Pro-ject XPression II. He's never led me
astray and has, in fact, often steered me in directions that have saved
me quite a bit of money and grief.

Having said that, even with good pricing, this is quite a jump from the
cost of the Pro-ject. Though I've already got an offer on that turntable
should I decide to make this move.

It appears to me that the TT1 is a modified Systemdek 2x2, with a
rewired Rega RB250 arm and an Audio Note tweaked Goldring 1000 series
cart.

I realize that the ultimate answer is to listen for myself, and I am
going to do just that this weekend since he's loaning me one to listen
to in my own setup.

But, I thought I'd check if you (or anyone else out there) has had any
experience with this table.

Thanks,

Bill

[Boon]

On Jan 23, 11:23�am, Bill > wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> I was wondering if you've ever had a chance to review/listen to any of
> the Audio Note turntables?

I heard a TT1 several years ago and remember liking it but preferring
the sound of Rega slightly. Greg Singh was a big fan of the AN
turntables and I remember discussing it with him here. I was pretty
devoted to Rega back then, but I bet I would have a slightly different
opinion today. I'd enjoy revisiting the Audio Notes.

I've been talking to the US distributors and they're trying to get me
a pair on AN/J speakers for review. Everyone's interested in the AN/
Es right now (and why not, it's an amazing speaker), but I owned a
pair of Snell Type Js back in the '80s and I'd love to hear that
design taken to the extreme. When it comes to Audio Note, I've liked
everything I've heard. (And I know someone with an Ongaku, and that's
just plain awesome.)

>
> A local hi-fi dealer that I've got an excellent relationship with can
> get me quite a price break on a TT1 and he feels that I'll find it a
> huge upgrade over my current Pro-ject XPression II. He's never led me
> astray and has, in fact, often steered me in directions that have saved
> me quite a bit of money and grief.

I compared the TT1 to the Rega P25 I had at the time and it was
close. I think the P25 is a significant jump over the Pro-Ject, so
that makes sense.

>
> Having said that, even with good pricing, this is quite a jump from the
> cost of the Pro-ject. Though I've already got an offer on that turntable
> should I decide to make this move.
>
> It appears to me that the TT1 is a modified Systemdek 2x2, with a
> rewired Rega RB250 arm and an Audio Note tweaked Goldring 1000 series
> cart.
>
> I realize that the ultimate answer is to listen for myself, and I am
> going to do just that this weekend since he's loaning me one to listen
> to in my own setup.
>
> But, I thought I'd check if you (or anyone else out there) has had any
> experience with this table.

Wish I had more to say, but it's an Audio Note. I betcha you'll like
it. Let me know what you think.

Boon

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <6c3e1d45-72ca-422e-80d4-345324139709
@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, says...

>
> I heard a TT1 several years ago and remember liking it but preferring
> the sound of Rega slightly. Greg Singh was a big fan of the AN
> turntables and I remember discussing it with him here. I was pretty
> devoted to Rega back then, but I bet I would have a slightly different
> opinion today. I'd enjoy revisiting the Audio Notes.
>
> I've been talking to the US distributors and they're trying to get me
> a pair on AN/J speakers for review. Everyone's interested in the AN/
> Es right now (and why not, it's an amazing speaker), but I owned a
> pair of Snell Type Js back in the '80s and I'd love to hear that
> design taken to the extreme. When it comes to Audio Note, I've liked
> everything I've heard. (And I know someone with an Ongaku, and that's
> just plain awesome.)

Yeah, I've heard a few different pairs of Audio Notes at this same
dealer, and I'm very impressed. They seem to be one of those speakers
that don't really measure all that well but sure sound amazing when set
up right.

> I compared the TT1 to the Rega P25 I had at the time and it was
> close. I think the P25 is a significant jump over the Pro-Ject, so
> that makes sense.

Yeah - that is quite true. The Pro-ject I've got is probably a step
ahead of the P1, but any of the better Regas are going to be a
significant step up. The Audio Note should be better since it's got a
better tone arm, a better cartridge and better isolation from vibration.
But of course, I've got to listen to it to make up my mind.

> Wish I had more to say, but it's an Audio Note. I betcha you'll like
> it. Let me know what you think.

Hey I very much appreciate your comments. I haven't heard much from
Audio Note, but what I have has been very impressive. I'm looking
forward to spending a bit of time with the TT1 and I'll post my
impressions.

--
Bill

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <6c3e1d45-72ca-422e-80d4-345324139709
@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, says...

> Wish I had more to say, but it's an Audio Note. I betcha you'll like
> it. Let me know what you think.

You'd win that bet. The Audio Note sounds absolutely wonderful to me.

I haven't had as much time to listen as I'd like, but I'm not returning
the unit till tomorrow so I'm going to get some quality listening in
tonight.

Some comments on my current gear, then a few subjective observations. My
Pro-Ject XPression II has a Shure M97xE cartridge and an external power
supply (Speed box II). I don't have a dedicated phono preamp: I am using
the phono section in my Rotel RX-1052 (which Jeff Dorgay reviewed in
Tone a couple of months back). This feeds a Rotel RB-1070 amp which
powers a pair of B&W 703 loudspeakers. Interconnects were the same for
both turntables (Audio Note ANA).

- the TT1 really doesn't look like much. It's really rather pedestrian
in appearance, but my, does it sound *wonderful*!

- I found it very difficult to "compare" turntables in my home rig. I
need to listen to something, unhook that unit, move it off the shelf,
position the other and hook it up, then listen to the same piece of
music. I didn't pursue that activity too long!

After comparing some well recorded music that I familiar with, I was
able to note some differences between the tables. After that, I just
left the TT1 in place and explored some of my music collection.

- The Pro-Ject Xpression + a speedbox is a fantastic deal for an
audiophile just getting into vinyl on a budget. It's not embarrassed by
the comparison, but clearly the Audio Note takes things to another
level.

- The Audio Note is noticeably better in the bass department: seems to
have more extension and authority. But where I really noticed an
improvement was in the top end. I notice a bit too much sibilance using
my Pro-ject on one or two albums: in particular, my Speaker's Corner 180
gm pressing of "Ella and Louis" has some annoying sibilance in a couple
of places despite being a fantastic sounding album overall.

Playing it with the Audio Note, that sibilance is tamed without losing
any detail. In fact, it seems that I get an increased amount of detail
with the Audio Note, without sounding clinical or etched in any way.

- The Audio Note also deals with noisy records better than the Pro-Ject.
Ticks and pops are still there, but seem to draw less attention to
themselves.

- Overall I would say that the Audio Note has a degree of coherence and
"musicality" that puts it above the Pro-Ject. I can honestly say that
it's easily the best sounding source component I've ever had in my home.
It's extremely musical, the midrange is lush and the top end detailed
without being fatiguing. When I listen to it, I simply don't want to
stop!

I'm tempted to run out and buy one right now, but I will audition a
comparably priced Rega to see if it generates the same kind of magic for
me. I admit that at this point in time, I have a hard time believing
that I won't be owning a TT1 shortly.

--
Bill

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <624220ad-1c08-4bad-b03d-d09bb4455e90
@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, says...

> Are you sure these differences aren't due to the carts rather than the
> TT?
> Sibilance is not something I expect a TT to affect.

No, I fully expect that you are correct: the cart is a much better one
in the Audio Note.

I also realize that comparing turntables is going to be an "apples vs
oranges" affair unless the same carts & tone arms are used.

Having said that, as a complete package, I very much like what the Audio
Note does.

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Bill said:

> Having said that, as a complete package, I very much like what the Audio
> Note does.

It's going to raise taxes and close Gitmo. Pretty scary, huh.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> It's going to raise taxes and close Gitmo. Pretty scary, huh.

Heh, I don't think the bait is going to be taken.

But yeah, very scary. And what's next, single payer medical or some
other socialist horror?

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Bill said:

> > It's going to raise taxes and close Gitmo. Pretty scary, huh.
>
> Heh, I don't think the bait is going to be taken.

woof! <grrrr.....>

> But yeah, very scary. And what's next, single payer medical or some
> other socialist horror?

Republicans used to hate welfare, and now they love it. There's only one
thing known to man that can be relied upon to trickle down, though.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> Republicans used to hate welfare, and now they love it. There's only one
> thing known to man that can be relied upon to trickle down, though.

Is that some kind of reference to Arnii Krooger?

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Bill said:

> > Republicans used to hate welfare, and now they love it. There's only one
> > thing known to man that can be relied upon to trickle down, though.
>
> Is that some kind of reference to Arnii Krooger?

I suppose Krooger thinks it's klever to kollect turds, but I'm sure he
didn't appreciate Emily Litella.

[Harry Lavo]

"ScottW" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 26, 10:08 am, Bill > wrote:
> In article <6c3e1d45-72ca-422e-80d4-345324139709
> @i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, says...
>
> > Wish I had more to say, but it's an Audio Note. I betcha you'll like
> > it. Let me know what you think.
>
> You'd win that bet. The Audio Note sounds absolutely wonderful to me.
>
> I haven't had as much time to listen as I'd like, but I'm not returning
> the unit till tomorrow so I'm going to get some quality listening in
> tonight.
>
> Some comments on my current gear, then a few subjective observations. My
> Pro-Ject XPression II has a Shure M97xE cartridge and an external power
> supply (Speed box II). I don't have a dedicated phono preamp: I am using
> the phono section in my Rotel RX-1052 (which Jeff Dorgay reviewed in
> Tone a couple of months back). This feeds a Rotel RB-1070 amp which
> powers a pair of B&W 703 loudspeakers. Interconnects were the same for
> both turntables (Audio Note ANA).
>
> - the TT1 really doesn't look like much. It's really rather pedestrian
> in appearance, but my, does it sound *wonderful*!
>
> - I found it very difficult to "compare" turntables in my home rig. I
> need to listen to something, unhook that unit, move it off the shelf,
> position the other and hook it up, then listen to the same piece of
> music. I didn't pursue that activity too long!
>
> After comparing some well recorded music that I familiar with, I was
> able to note some differences between the tables. After that, I just
> left the TT1 in place and explored some of my music collection.
>
> - The Pro-Ject Xpression + a speedbox is a fantastic deal for an
> audiophile just getting into vinyl on a budget. It's not embarrassed by
> the comparison, but clearly the Audio Note takes things to another
> level.
>
> - The Audio Note is noticeably better in the bass department: seems to
> have more extension and authority. But where I really noticed an
> improvement was in the top end. I notice a bit too much sibilance using
> my Pro-ject on one or two albums: in particular, my Speaker's Corner 180
> gm pressing of "Ella and Louis" has some annoying sibilance in a couple
> of places despite being a fantastic sounding album overall.
>
> Playing it with the Audio Note, that sibilance is tamed without losing
> any detail. In fact, it seems that I get an increased amount of detail
> with the Audio Note, without sounding clinical or etched in any way.
>
> - The Audio Note also deals with noisy records better than the Pro-Ject.
> Ticks and pops are still there, but seem to draw less attention to
> themselves.
>
> - Overall I would say that the Audio Note has a degree of coherence and
> "musicality" that puts it above the Pro-Ject. I can honestly say that
> it's easily the best sounding source component I've ever had in my home.
> It's extremely musical, the midrange is lush and the top end detailed
> without being fatiguing. When I listen to it, I simply don't want to
> stop!
>
> I'm tempted to run out and buy one right now, but I will audition a
> comparably priced Rega to see if it generates the same kind of magic for
> me. I admit that at this point in time, I have a hard time believing
> that I won't be owning a TT1 shortly.

Are you sure these differences aren't due to the carts rather than the
TT?
Sibilance is not something I expect a TT to affect.

*********************************************

More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance and
record noise is a function of arm resonances.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >, says...

> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance and
> record noise is a function of arm resonances.

You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I really
discovered how good vinyl can sound.

I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but it's
not as good as the Rega arm, imo.

Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.

--
Bill

[Harry Lavo]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance and
>> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
>
> You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
> it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
> though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I really
> discovered how good vinyl can sound.
>
> I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
> couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
> itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
> combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
> Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but it's
> not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
>
> Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
> much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.


Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes Arny!!

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >, says...

>
> Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes Arny!!

I hope not! He's certainly been excessively snotty lately. I'm guessing
he's in a bad way since Jenn decided to ignore him.

In any case, I merely expressed a subjective preference: how
controversial can that be ;-)

--
Bill

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> "Bill" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >, says...
> >
> >> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance and
> >> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
> >
> > You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
> > it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
> > though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I really
> > discovered how good vinyl can sound.
> >
> > I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
> > couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
> > itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
> > combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
> > Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but it's
> > not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
> >
> > Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
> > much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.
>
>
> Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes Arny!!

Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
with the Suisse Romande. FANTASTIC sounding!

[Clyde Slick]

On 26 Ian, 16:35, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Bill said:
>
> > Having said that, as a complete package, I very much like what the Audio
> > Note does.
>
> It's going to raise taxes and close Gitmo. Pretty scary, huh.

only if they park one of the internees in your back yard.

[TT]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>
>>
>> Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes
>> Arny!!
>
> I hope not!

Ditto ;-)

> He's certainly been excessively snotty lately.

For the last 61 years you mean ;-)

> I'm guessing
> he's in a bad way since Jenn decided to ignore him.
>
A shame we all can't ignore him. :-(

> In any case, I merely expressed a subjective preference:
> how
> controversial can that be ;-)
>
Very. According to one Arnold B. that intrinsically makes
you a liar. You can't have preferences or say things like
"I like" or "I prefer" when the Borg have scientifically
proven that individualism and tastes are outlawed. :-))

Cheers TT

[Clyde Slick]

On 26 Ian, 20:53, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Harry Lavo" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Bill" > wrote in message
> t...
> > > In article >, says...
>
> > >> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. *Usually sibilance and
> > >> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
>
> > > You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
> > > it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
> > > though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I really
> > > discovered how good vinyl can sound.
>
> > > I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
> > > couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
> > > itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
> > > combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
> > > Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but it's
> > > not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
>
> > > Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
> > > much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.
>
> > Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. *Here comes Arny!!
>
> Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
> copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
> with the Suisse Romande. *FANTASTIC sounding!-

Ansermet is my number one overall conductor, considering
the different periods, genres, and peculiarities of classical'
music form different nationalities and cultures
He handled everything just about as it should be handled.
Reiner, Monteux, Liebowitz, Munch were great with some
things, but not with everything.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
Clyde Slick > wrote:

> On 26 Ian, 20:53, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"Harry Lavo" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Bill" > wrote in message
> > t...
> > > > In article >, says...
> >
> > > >> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. *Usually sibilance
> > > >> and
> > > >> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
> >
> > > > You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
> > > > it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
> > > > though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I
> > > > really
> > > > discovered how good vinyl can sound.
> >
> > > > I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
> > > > couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
> > > > itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
> > > > combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
> > > > Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but
> > > > it's
> > > > not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
> >
> > > > Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
> > > > much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.
> >
> > > Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. *Here comes Arny!!
> >
> > Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
> > copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
> > with the Suisse Romande. *FANTASTIC sounding!-
>
> Ansermet is my number one overall conductor, considering
> the different periods, genres, and peculiarities of classical'
> music form different nationalities and cultures
> He handled everything just about as it should be handled.
> Reiner, Monteux, Liebowitz, Munch were great with some
> things, but not with everything.

Yep, one of the very best for sure.

[Harry Lavo]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
>
>> "Bill" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >
>> >> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance
>> >> and
>> >> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
>> >
>> > You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
>> > it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
>> > though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I
>> > really
>> > discovered how good vinyl can sound.
>> >
>> > I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
>> > couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
>> > itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
>> > combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
>> > Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but
>> > it's
>> > not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
>> >
>> > Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
>> > much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.
>>
>>
>> Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes Arny!!
>
> Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
> copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
> with the Suisse Romande. FANTASTIC sounding!

Good for you.

I was putting away a set of used records that I bought last summer and
realized it contained a cutout of Joan Baez's "Joan" record of 1968, devoted
to more pop music than her usual folk recordings, and with backing arranged
by Peter Shickele.. Absolutely pristine...never played. I put it on and
listened to both sides (I am a sucker for most Joan and all Judy Collins)
and didn't hear a single pop, click, or scratch. A beautiful Vanguard
recording...modern engineers could well go to school on it.

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> I was putting away a set of used records that I bought last summer and
> realized it contained a cutout of Joan Baez's "Joan" record of 1968, devoted
> to more pop music than her usual folk recordings, and with backing arranged
> by Peter Shickele.. Absolutely pristine...never played. I put it on and
> listened to both sides (I am a sucker for most Joan and all Judy Collins)
> and didn't hear a single pop, click, or scratch. A beautiful Vanguard
> recording...modern engineers could well go to school on it.

Used Joan Baez records tend to have been played a lot! My best-condition
"5" is a British pressing, but that's more for lack of effort finding a
better one.

Stephen

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Bill" > wrote in message
> >> t...
> >> > In article >, says...
> >> >
> >> >> More likely the arm, or arm/cartridge interaction. Usually sibilance
> >> >> and
> >> >> record noise is a function of arm resonances.
> >> >
> >> > You could very well be right, and I'll defer to your experience - When
> >> > it comes to "audiophile" vinyl I am quite a newcomer to the scene. Even
> >> > though I grew up with vinyl, it's only in the last 2 years that I
> >> > really
> >> > discovered how good vinyl can sound.
> >> >
> >> > I should add that the sibilance isn't a problem generally: it's just a
> >> > couple of recordings, and I'm inclined to think that the recording
> >> > itself is a part of the problem. However, the tonearm/cartridge
> >> > combination is one of the strengths of the Audio Note setup. The Pro-
> >> > Ject carbon fiber arm is pretty good and an incredible bargain, but
> >> > it's
> >> > not as good as the Rega arm, imo.
> >> >
> >> > Even with all that, I still find that good vinyl pressings often sound
> >> > much better on the Pro-ject than many CDs that I own.
> >>
> >>
> >> Okay, Bill, you've opened the floodgates. Here comes Arny!!
> >
> > Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
> > copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
> > with the Suisse Romande. FANTASTIC sounding!
>
> Good for you.
>
> I was putting away a set of used records that I bought last summer and
> realized it contained a cutout of Joan Baez's "Joan" record of 1968, devoted
> to more pop music than her usual folk recordings, and with backing arranged
> by Peter Shickele.. Absolutely pristine...never played. I put it on and
> listened to both sides (I am a sucker for most Joan and all Judy Collins)
> and didn't hear a single pop, click, or scratch. A beautiful Vanguard
> recording...modern engineers could well go to school on it.

Cool! The Vanguard reissues are outstanding as well.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> Speaking of vinyl, this weekend at Amoeba I found an absolutely cherry
> copy of a London disk, Ansermet conducting Wagner overtures and preludes
> with the Suisse Romande. FANTASTIC sounding!

Awesome! I just love it when I find a gem like that.

Next month my wife and I are making our annual trip to the Portland Jazz
festival, so I'll be doing a bit of vinyl hunting when I get a chance.

--
Bill

[Bill[_16_]]

I wrote:

> Having said that, as a complete package, I very much like what the Audio
> Note does.

After putting in some good listening time last night, I have to say that
the Audio Note is much better than I first thought. I had a friend come
over last night and we spent several hours listening and going back and
forth between tables.

I now have to conclude that the Audio Note is substantially better than
my Pro-Ject in just about every way. Wow - I can't believe how much
detail that thing retrieves! It's so musical and non-fatiguing, yet
exceptionally detailed. I'm afraid that there's no hope for me now -- I
have to own one.

--
Bill

[Boon]

On Jan 27, 11:52�am, Bill > wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Having said that, as a complete package, I very much like what the Audio
> > Note does.
>
> After putting in some good listening time last night, I have to say that
> the Audio Note is much better than I first thought. I had a friend come
> over last night and we spent several hours listening and going back and
> forth between tables.
>
> I now have to conclude that the Audio Note is substantially better than
> my Pro-Ject in just about every way. Wow - I can't believe how much
> detail that thing retrieves! It's so musical and non-fatiguing, yet
> exceptionally detailed. I'm afraid that there's no hope for me now -- I
> have to own one.
>
> -- �
> Bill

Awesome! I'm really, really glad it worked out for you.

Boon

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <436679c6-431d-4391-a8ad-1c4d13280d56
@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, says...

> Awesome! I'm really, really glad it worked out for you.

Thanks Marc. It's pretty exciting to get a piece of gear that provides
that kind of magic!

I think it will be a while before I get one in my possession, because
the dealer needs to order some more tonearms from Audio Note. They
apparently work pretty well with some other tables and the dealer has
run short on them despite having some of the turntables in stock.

--
Bill

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> > I now have to conclude that the Audio Note is substantially better than
> > my Pro-Ject in just about every way. Wow - I can't believe how much
> > detail that thing retrieves! It's so musical and non-fatiguing, yet
> > exceptionally detailed. I'm afraid that there's no hope for me now -- I
> > have to own one.

> Awesome! I'm really, really glad it worked out for you.

Why are you guys trying to bait the Krooborg?

[Harry Lavo]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Boon said:
>
>> > I now have to conclude that the Audio Note is substantially better than
>> > my Pro-Ject in just about every way. Wow - I can't believe how much
>> > detail that thing retrieves! It's so musical and non-fatiguing, yet
>> > exceptionally detailed. I'm afraid that there's no hope for me now -- I
>> > have to own one.
>
>> Awesome! I'm really, really glad it worked out for you.
>
> Why are you guys trying to bait the Krooborg?
>

Did you not notice that I "innoculated" them by claiming that Arny would
descend? Of course now he won't, or he'd be agreeing with me. LOL!

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >, says...
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Why are you guys trying to bait the Krooborg?
> >
>
> Did you not notice that I "innoculated" them by claiming that Arny would
> descend? Of course now he won't, or he'd be agreeing with me. LOL!

Much appreciated Harry!

Of course, it seems to me that any normal conversation about audio (and
in particular vinyl playback) is an affront to the Krooborg.

--
Bill

[Harry Lavo]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Why are you guys trying to bait the Krooborg?
>> >
>>
>> Did you not notice that I "innoculated" them by claiming that Arny would
>> descend? Of course now he won't, or he'd be agreeing with me. LOL!
>
> Much appreciated Harry!
>
> Of course, it seems to me that any normal conversation about audio (and
> in particular vinyl playback) is an affront to the Krooborg.
>

Don't forget tubes, Bill. He is over on rec.audio.marketplace right now
taking somebody for task for thinking that a "no reserve" auction on a mint,
lightly used Goldmund Minimes Preamp was something people might consider a
desireable look-see. His take two tubes and a wall-wart would do as well.
And the starting price is "high". Well, he's being true to form...I suppose
consistency is a virtue. But it's hard to see much of value in Arny's
consistency.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >, says...

> Don't forget tubes, Bill. He is over on rec.audio.marketplace right now
> taking somebody for task for thinking that a "no reserve" auction on a mint,
> lightly used Goldmund Minimes Preamp was something people might consider a
> desireable look-see. His take two tubes and a wall-wart would do as well.
> And the starting price is "high". Well, he's being true to form...I suppose
> consistency is a virtue. But it's hard to see much of value in Arny's
> consistency.

I admit I don't have any tubed gear, but I have heard some gorgeous
examples and I can see the attraction.

It appears that Arny is one of those guys that is all about measurements
and specs. Listening to music apparently doesn't enter the picture at
all.

--
Bill

[TT]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t...

> It appears that Arny is one of those guys that is all
> about measurements
> and specs. Listening to music apparently doesn't enter the
> picture at
> all.
>
> --
> Bill

Yeah and the Mona Lisa isn't as good as a digital photograph
and the colours are a bit bland ;-)

Cheers TT

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Bill" > wrote in message
> t...
>
> > It appears that Arny is one of those guys that is all
> > about measurements
> > and specs. Listening to music apparently doesn't enter the
> > picture at
> > all.
> >
> > --
> > Bill
>
> Yeah and the Mona Lisa isn't as good as a digital photograph
> and the colours are a bit bland ;-)

LOL!! Exactly!