6ohm speakers and DVD player

[[email protected]]

I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
left" and "front right".

The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
between the player and the speakers?

[[email protected][_2_]]

On Jan 8, 2:55*pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
> > to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
> > 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
> > left" and "front right".
>
> > The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
> > impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
> > between the player and the speakers?
>
> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
resources to me?

[jakdedert]

wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>> left" and "front right".
>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>> between the player and the speakers?
>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>
>> Bob Morein
>> (310) 237-6511
>
> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
> resources to me?

I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
<http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>

jak

[jakdedert]

jakdedert wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>
>>> Bob Morein
>>> (310) 237-6511
>>
>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>> resources to me?
>
> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>
> jak

Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>

jak

[GregS[_3_]]

In article >, jakdedert > wrote:
>jakdedert wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Morein
>>>> (310) 237-6511
>>>
>>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>>> resources to me?
>>
>> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
>> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>>
>> jak
>
>Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>

I like that.

But sometimes people like to get into a discussion, or sometimes they like
to direct questions to people they are familiar with. Sometimes they will
not take the time, or sometimes they really can't figure out what
to ask.

Sometimes you wonder.

greg

[David Nebenzahl]

On 1/8/2009 11:16 AM GregS spake thus:

> In article >, jakdedert
> > wrote:
>
>>jakdedert wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>>
>>>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>>>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>>>> resources to me?
>>>
>>> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
>>> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>>
>>Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>
>
> I like that.
>
> But sometimes people like to get into a discussion, or sometimes they like
> to direct questions to people they are familiar with. Sometimes they will
> not take the time, or sometimes they really can't figure out what
> to ask.

There are other alternatives, you know: sometimes people are so damn
lazy and dismissive that they can't be bothered to actually answer a
question posed in a Usenet forum, even though they take the time to type
a reply nonetheless.

And sometimes people who actually *do* a Google (or other search
engine--they exist, you know) search are faced with a slew of confusing
links without any context, requiring slogging through and evaluating.
That's one of the attributes of newsgroups like this, you know: asking
questions and getting information from a human being based on their
experience.


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

[GregS[_3_]]

In article >, David Nebenzahl > wrote:
>On 1/8/2009 11:16 AM GregS spake thus:
>
>> In article >, jakdedert
>> > wrote:
> >
>>>jakdedert wrote:
> >>
>>>> wrote:
> >>>
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> >>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>>>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>>>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>>>>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>>>>> resources to me?
>>>>
>>>> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
>>>> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>>>
>>>Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>
>>
>> I like that.
>>
>> But sometimes people like to get into a discussion, or sometimes they like
>> to direct questions to people they are familiar with. Sometimes they will
>> not take the time, or sometimes they really can't figure out what
>> to ask.
>
>There are other alternatives, you know: sometimes people are so damn
>lazy and dismissive that they can't be bothered to actually answer a
>question posed in a Usenet forum, even though they take the time to type
>a reply nonetheless.
>
>And sometimes people who actually *do* a Google (or other search
>engine--they exist, you know) search are faced with a slew of confusing
>links without any context, requiring slogging through and evaluating.
>That's one of the attributes of newsgroups like this, you know: asking
>questions and getting information from a human being based on their
>experience.

Currently my Firefox broswer has a problem with Google. Every return link
goes back to Google, so I have been using yahoo, except I go back to Google
often. Google does not have everything and you have to use other broswers
to get more of the web. The main reason I use Google, except for the fact
I started using it when most all other people were using Alta Vista
ot other engines, is its selection from images to groups, etc, etc. Highly
usefull. You do need to browse USENET archieves, not just the web to find information.


greg

[GregS[_3_]]

In article >, (GregS) wrote:
>In article >, David
> Nebenzahl > wrote:
>>On 1/8/2009 11:16 AM GregS spake thus:
>>
>>> In article >, jakdedert
>>> > wrote:
>> >
>>>>jakdedert wrote:
>> >>
>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>> >>>>
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>>>>>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>>>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>>>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>>>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>>>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>>>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>>>>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>>>>>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>>>>>> resources to me?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
>>>>> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>>>>
>>>>Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>
>>>
>>> I like that.
>>>
>>> But sometimes people like to get into a discussion, or sometimes they like
>>> to direct questions to people they are familiar with. Sometimes they will
>>> not take the time, or sometimes they really can't figure out what
>>> to ask.
>>
>>There are other alternatives, you know: sometimes people are so damn
>>lazy and dismissive that they can't be bothered to actually answer a
>>question posed in a Usenet forum, even though they take the time to type
>>a reply nonetheless.
>>
>>And sometimes people who actually *do* a Google (or other search
>>engine--they exist, you know) search are faced with a slew of confusing
>>links without any context, requiring slogging through and evaluating.
>>That's one of the attributes of newsgroups like this, you know: asking
>>questions and getting information from a human being based on their
>>experience.
>
>Currently my Firefox broswer has a problem with Google. Every return link
>goes back to Google, so I have been using yahoo, except I go back to Google
>often. Google does not have everything and you have to use other broswers
>to get more of the web. The main reason I use Google, except for the fact
>I started using it when most all other people were using Alta Vista
>ot other engines, is its selection from images to groups, etc, etc. Highly
>usefull. You do need to browse USENET archieves, not just the web to find
> information.

If you browse Yahoo images, if its not in Flickr, your out of luck. Often, browsing Google images
gets me where I want to go, the fastest.

greg

[Mr.T]

"Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
...
> Your DVD player probably does not have a volume control, so you need an
> "integrated" amplifier, rather than a "basic" amp.

Most DVD players DO have remote volume control capabilities by varying the
output level. So not strictly necessary unless you prefer a knob.

MrT.

[jakdedert]

David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 1/8/2009 11:16 AM GregS spake thus:
>
>> In article >, jakdedert
>> > wrote:
> >
>>> jakdedert wrote:
> >>
>>>> wrote:
> >>>
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> >>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>>>>>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>>>>>>> left" and "front right".
>>>>>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>>>>>>> impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>>>>>>> between the player and the speakers?
>>>>>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>>>>> have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>>>>> resources to me?
>>>>
>>>> I've found an excellent variety of amplifier building resources at:
>>>> <http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/>
>>>
>>> Here's a better one: <http://tinyurl.com/7ce2qj>
>>
>> I like that.
>>
>> But sometimes people like to get into a discussion, or sometimes they
>> like
>> to direct questions to people they are familiar with. Sometimes they will
>> not take the time, or sometimes they really can't figure out what
>> to ask.
>
> There are other alternatives, you know: sometimes people are so damn
> lazy and dismissive that they can't be bothered to actually answer a
> question posed in a Usenet forum, even though they take the time to type
> a reply nonetheless.
>

And sometimes someone new comes to a forum, asks one question that could
have been easily answered in less than it took to type it...makes a
bunch of noise when someone points it out to him; and then leaves
without a trace.

> And sometimes people who actually *do* a Google (or other search
> engine--they exist, you know) search are faced with a slew of confusing
> links without any context, requiring slogging through and evaluating.
> That's one of the attributes of newsgroups like this, you know: asking
> questions and getting information from a human being based on their
> experience.
>
>
Had you asked that (those) question(s): Has anybody built any kit amps?
.and/or. Which ones? .or. Does anyone have any personal experience
with [brand x] amp kits....you would likely have gotten a much
different, more useful, answer.

jak

[David Nebenzahl]

On 1/8/2009 6:17 PM jakdedert spake thus:

> Had you asked that (those) question(s): Has anybody built any kit amps?
> .and/or. Which ones? .or. Does anyone have any personal experience
> with [brand x] amp kits....you would likely have gotten a much
> different, more useful, answer.

Wasn't me; I'm not the OP.

They said "Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I
only have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
resources to me?" So what's the problem with that request? Maybe you
didn't like their syntax? Sounds like a direct, polite request for
information to me.


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

[GregS[_3_]]

In article >, " > wrote:
>On Jan 8, 2:55=A0pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> >I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo) which I would like
>> > to incoprorate into a home audio system. My DVD player has a set of
>> > 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the speakers to "front
>> > left" and "front right".
>>
>> > The manual for the DVD player says that the audio output has an
>> > impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that I need an amplifier to go
>> > between the player and the speakers?
>>
>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>
>> Bob Morein
>> (310) 237-6511
>
>Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I only
>have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
>resources to me?

Many amplifiers I have built are from modules. Some of the modules
I have are no longer available, but 200 watts was possible from a simple
circuit. If you can build small amplifiers, then you can also build large
amplifiers. If you build it right with good parts from a good
design, all should be fine. I would suggest buying something that allready works
from Ebay.

greg

[jakdedert]

David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 1/8/2009 6:17 PM jakdedert spake thus:
>
>> Had you asked that (those) question(s): Has anybody built any kit
>> amps? .and/or. Which ones? .or. Does anyone have any personal
>> experience with [brand x] amp kits....you would likely have gotten a
>> much different, more useful, answer.
>
> Wasn't me; I'm not the OP.
>
> They said "Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this but I
> only have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can you suggest any
> resources to me?" So what's the problem with that request? Maybe you
> didn't like their syntax? Sounds like a direct, polite request for
> information to me.
>
>
And I gave him (approx.) 330,000 answers. All you did was play net-nanny.

jak

[Arny Krueger]

> wrote in message

> On Jan 8, 2:55 pm, "Soundhaspriority"
> > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I have a pair of 6ohm speakers (from an old stereo)
>>> which I would like to incoprorate into a home audio
>>> system. My DVD player has a set of
>>> 5.1 output ports and I would like to connect the
>>> speakers to "front left" and "front right".
>>
>>> The manual for the DVD player says that the audio
>>> output has an impedance of 10k ohm. Does this mean that
>>> I need an amplifier to go between the player and the
>>> speakers?
>>
>> Yes. You cannot hook speakers directly to your player.
>>
>> Bob Morein
>> (310) 237-6511
>
> Thankyou, I would like to build an amplifier to do this
> but I only have experience with small kit amplifiers. Can
> you suggest any resources to me?

Building amplifiers has become something that people don't do so much any
more, since assembly costs have gotten so low that you can probabably get
one better, cheaper already built.

[[email protected][_2_]]

Thankyou all for your pointers. I think that given the complexity of
designing an amplifier I will limit myself to kits and/or ready made
amps.

(Apologies to anyone who was taken aback by my original request and/or
it's wording. As good as google is at finding information; searching
for "build (or design) your own amplifier" throws up too many hits
which say that it is too hard to do.)

[Ron]

On Jan 8, 7:45*pm, "Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote:
> "Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Your DVD player probably does not have a volume control, so you need an
> > "integrated" amplifier, rather than a "basic" amp.
>
> Most DVD players DO have remote volume control capabilities by varying the
> output level. So not strictly necessary unless you prefer a knob.
>
> MrT.

I have a Mitsubishi DD-4030 ('03) and a Pioneer DV-440 ('02) and
neither have a volume control.

[Ron]

On Jan 8, 2:44*pm, (GregS) wrote:

> you have to use other broswers
> to get more of the web.

I use FF 99% of the time (IE7 1% of the time) with the IE extensions,
so what exactly are you talking about?

[Mr.T]

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
>> Most DVD players DO have remote volume control capabilities by varying
the
>> output level. So not strictly necessary unless you prefer a knob.

>I have a Mitsubishi DD-4030 ('03) and a Pioneer DV-440 ('02) and
>neither have a volume control.

I'll take your word for it. I'm glad all of mine do though, I use that
feature all the time since my amplifiers don't have remote control.

MrT.

[jakdedert]

wrote:
> Thankyou all for your pointers. I think that given the complexity of
> designing an amplifier I will limit myself to kits and/or ready made
> amps.
>
> (Apologies to anyone who was taken aback by my original request and/or
> it's wording. As good as google is at finding information; searching
> for "build (or design) your own amplifier" throws up too many hits
> which say that it is too hard to do.)

No apologies necessary. If you're sticking around, feel free to
contribute your experiences with whatever solution you settle on. For
myself, I've built a few chip amp kits that were reasonably simple,
efficient, decent-sounding and cheap. It's been a while though; and I
think I'd do some serious research before I went in that direction
again. There are just way too many options in ready-built amps out
there...in thrift stores, at yard sales, Craigslist etc.

FWIW, the amp module is the cheap, easy part. Building, buying or
otherwise acquiring a suitable power supply is the hard part. Iron and
copper is expensive (especially shipping). I have transformers. Either
they output too much voltage--or too little current--for the kits I want
to do.

I'm researching using the stuff I have, to do what I want: design and
build a powerful (100+ wpc) six channel power amp. It's an ongoing
project for which I have much of what I need, but.....

jak

[Mr.T]

"jakdedert" > wrote in message
...
> FWIW, the amp module is the cheap, easy part. Building, buying or
> otherwise acquiring a suitable power supply is the hard part.

Not to mention a suitable chassis, and all the other associated hardware.
Far easier to buy a cheap S/H amp IMO, and I've built my own before.
Putting new modules into an amp that someone has thrown out rather than fix,
can be a reasonable solution too. You often get a working pre-amp and power
supply included.

MrT.

[jakdedert]

Mr.T wrote:
> "jakdedert" > wrote in message
> ...
>> FWIW, the amp module is the cheap, easy part. Building, buying or
>> otherwise acquiring a suitable power supply is the hard part.
>
> Not to mention a suitable chassis, and all the other associated hardware.
> Far easier to buy a cheap S/H amp IMO, and I've built my own before.
> Putting new modules into an amp that someone has thrown out rather than fix,
> can be a reasonable solution too. You often get a working pre-amp and power
> supply included.
>
> MrT.
>
>
That's kind of what I've got in mind. I just need a design to match a
couple of +/- 70v power supplies I have on hand. Most chip amps take
+/- 45 or so....

jak

[Mr.T]

"jakdedert" > wrote in message
...
> That's kind of what I've got in mind. I just need a design to match a
> couple of +/- 70v power supplies I have on hand. Most chip amps take
> +/- 45 or so....

Yep, +/- 70V is for a pretty powerful amp, not a chip amp. Can you perhaps
rewire them for +/-35V instead? Will depend on how the transformers are
tapped, and rectification method currently employed.

Or build a high power discrete power module to make full use of the
supplies..

MrT.

[jakdedert]

Mr.T wrote:
> "jakdedert" > wrote in message
> ...
>> That's kind of what I've got in mind. I just need a design to match a
>> couple of +/- 70v power supplies I have on hand. Most chip amps take
>> +/- 45 or so....
>
> Yep, +/- 70V is for a pretty powerful amp, not a chip amp. Can you perhaps
> rewire them for +/-35V instead? Will depend on how the transformers are
> tapped, and rectification method currently employed.
>
> Or build a high power discrete power module to make full use of the
> supplies..
>
> MrT.
>
>
Nahh...pretty simple transformers: single primary and ct secondary. I'd
wanted to avoid discrete outputs based on the complexity of the number
of channels I want. It might not be possible. If I find suitable
chips, they'll likely be expensive enough to outweigh the convenience of
building with modules.

It's a long-range goal. I've gathered a goodly amount of stuff, lacking
mostly the overall design and actual outputs.

jak