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Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 06:28 PM
Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
mixed; the conducting is fantastic.

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 07:24 PM
In article >,
"Soundhaspriority" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> > with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> > later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> > 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
>
> Are you referring to the ones that were done on a special "movie stock"
> sprocketed machine and recently retransferred?
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

The Everests were recorded on 35mm film.

MiNe 109
December 20th 08, 09:07 PM
In article >,
Jenn > wrote:

> Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> mixed; the conducting is fantastic.

I think I have a couple of the previous reissues on Vanguard: Goossens
conducting ballet music springs to mind.

Stephen

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 09:48 PM
In article >,
MiNe 109 > wrote:

> In article >,
> Jenn > wrote:
>
> > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> > with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> > later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> > 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
>
> I think I have a couple of the previous reissues on Vanguard: Goossens
> conducting ballet music springs to mind.
>
> Stephen

I just listened to the Sibelius Violin Concerto. Very nice.

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
December 20th 08, 10:09 PM
On Dec 20, 3:07*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article >,
>
> *Jenn > wrote:
> > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> > with the Classic reissues? *I picked up three of them on a very brief
> > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> > later today. *The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> > 4, originally a Columbia recording. *Mixed results there. *I had
> > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. *The highs
> > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. *The playing is
> > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
>
> I think I have a couple of the previous reissues on Vanguard: Goossens
> conducting ballet music springs to mind.

I just listened to Goossens and the LSO's "Symphonic Poems" on
Everest. While I liked the recording, I still prefer many other labels
ahead of Everest. I'd put them in the middle on my list. I don't have
any of the Classic reissues though, just originals, and only a dozen
or so.

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 10:18 PM
In article
>,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 3:07*pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
> > *Jenn > wrote:
> > > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> > > with the Classic reissues? *I picked up three of them on a very brief
> > > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> > > later today. *The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> > > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> > > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> > > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> > > 4, originally a Columbia recording. *Mixed results there. *I had
> > > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> > > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. *The highs
> > > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. *The playing is
> > > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
> >
> > I think I have a couple of the previous reissues on Vanguard: Goossens
> > conducting ballet music springs to mind.
>
> I just listened to Goossens and the LSO's "Symphonic Poems" on
> Everest. While I liked the recording, I still prefer many other labels
> ahead of Everest. I'd put them in the middle on my list. I don't have
> any of the Classic reissues though, just originals, and only a dozen
> or so.

So far, based only on the Sibelius disk, I would agree. It's good, not
great.

Boon
December 20th 08, 11:01 PM
This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
Lonely, and they are spectacular. I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. The sound quality of
NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
slightly more. Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
romantic.

Boon

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 11:04 PM
In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> Lonely, and they are spectacular. I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. The sound quality of
> NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> slightly more. Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> romantic.
>
> Boon

I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
them. Thanks.

A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.

Boon
December 20th 08, 11:27 PM
On Dec 20, 3:04�pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> �Boon > wrote:
> > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > Lonely, and they are spectacular. �I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. �The sound quality of
> > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > slightly more. �Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > romantic.
>
> > Boon
>
> I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
> them. �Thanks.
>
> A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.

I just reviewed them for our Audiophile Recordings column, and I
pretty much said that I'll be using them for my next 50 or 60
equipment reviews. We're having a near blizzard here today (one of
the worst winter storms in recent Portland history) and it's nice to
have the fireplace going and one of these LPs spinning. I also have
the MFSL CD of NNE here for comparison and its very close in sound
quality to the LP. I'd give the edge to the LP just because it seems
to preserve the time and place of the recording.

Boon

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 11:31 PM
In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 3:04?pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > ?Boon > wrote:
> > > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > > Lonely, and they are spectacular. ?I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. ?The sound quality of
> > > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > > slightly more. ?Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > > romantic.
> >
> > > Boon
> >
> > I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
> > them. ?Thanks.
> >
> > A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.
>
> I just reviewed them for our Audiophile Recordings column, and I
> pretty much said that I'll be using them for my next 50 or 60
> equipment reviews. We're having a near blizzard here today (one of
> the worst winter storms in recent Portland history) and it's nice to
> have the fireplace going and one of these LPs spinning. I also have
> the MFSL CD of NNE here for comparison and its very close in sound
> quality to the LP. I'd give the edge to the LP just because it seems
> to preserve the time and place of the recording.
>
> Boon

Good luck with the storm. During my three years in Portland, it only
snowed three of those years, and then only 3-4 inches, with not much
wind. Even a little snow pretty much closed down the city, so I can
only imagine what is happening now. Take care.

Boon
December 20th 08, 11:40 PM
On Dec 20, 3:31�pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> �Boon > wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 3:04?pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
>
> > > ?Boon > wrote:
> > > > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > > > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > > > Lonely, and they are spectacular. ?I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > > > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. ?The sound quality of
> > > > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > > > slightly more. ?Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > > > romantic.
>
> > > > Boon
>
> > > I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
> > > them. ?Thanks.
>
> > > A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.
>
> > I just reviewed them for our Audiophile Recordings column, and I
> > pretty much said that I'll be using them for my next 50 or 60
> > equipment reviews. �We're having a near blizzard here today (one of
> > the worst winter storms in recent Portland history) and it's nice to
> > have the fireplace going and one of these LPs spinning. �I also have
> > the MFSL CD of NNE here for comparison and its very close in sound
> > quality to the LP. �I'd give the edge to the LP just because it seems
> > to preserve the time and place of the recording.
>
> > Boon
>
> Good luck with the storm. �During my three years in Portland, it only
> snowed three of those years, and then only 3-4 inches, with not much
> wind. �Even a little snow pretty much closed down the city, so I can
> only imagine what is happening now. �Take care.-

It's been snowing for the past week. It snows all night, then it
turns to rain in the afternoon and washes away, and then it starts all
over again after the sun goes down. Today was different...I woke up
to about 3 inches of powder. It's now up to 7 or 8 on the ground, and
they're calling for 6 to 7 more by tonight. Then we'll have a nice
ice storm overnight. Tomorrow it will continue to snow.

I know it doesn't sound like a lot to colder parts of the country, but
when emergency services aren't used to this, it becomes a lot more
serious

I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. 42 inches in 24
hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. So I've dealt with this
before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.

Boon

MiNe 109
December 20th 08, 11:42 PM
In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> It's been snowing for the past week.

Close to 80 here.

Off to see Bobby Whitlock...

Stephen

Jenn[_3_]
December 20th 08, 11:43 PM
In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 3:31?pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Boon > wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, 3:04?pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> >
> > > > ?Boon > wrote:
> > > > > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > > > > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > > > > Lonely, and they are spectacular. ?I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > > > > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. ?The sound quality of
> > > > > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > > > > slightly more. ?Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > > > > romantic.
> >
> > > > > Boon
> >
> > > > I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
> > > > them. ?Thanks.
> >
> > > > A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.
> >
> > > I just reviewed them for our Audiophile Recordings column, and I
> > > pretty much said that I'll be using them for my next 50 or 60
> > > equipment reviews. ?We're having a near blizzard here today (one of
> > > the worst winter storms in recent Portland history) and it's nice to
> > > have the fireplace going and one of these LPs spinning. ?I also have
> > > the MFSL CD of NNE here for comparison and its very close in sound
> > > quality to the LP. ?I'd give the edge to the LP just because it seems
> > > to preserve the time and place of the recording.
> >
> > > Boon
> >
> > Good luck with the storm. ?During my three years in Portland

I meant to write FIVE years in Portland...

>, it only
> > snowed three of those years, and then only 3-4 inches, with not much
> > wind. ?Even a little snow pretty much closed down the city, so I can
> > only imagine what is happening now. ?Take care.-
>
> It's been snowing for the past week. It snows all night, then it
> turns to rain in the afternoon and washes away, and then it starts all
> over again after the sun goes down. Today was different...I woke up
> to about 3 inches of powder. It's now up to 7 or 8 on the ground, and
> they're calling for 6 to 7 more by tonight. Then we'll have a nice
> ice storm overnight. Tomorrow it will continue to snow.
>
> I know it doesn't sound like a lot to colder parts of the country, but
> when emergency services aren't used to this, it becomes a lot more
> serious
>
> I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. 42 inches in 24
> hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. So I've dealt with this
> before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.

I can imagine. Take care...
>
> Boon

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
December 21st 08, 12:45 AM
On Dec 20, 5:27*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 3:04 pm, Jenn > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > Boon > wrote:
> > > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > > Lonely, and they are spectacular. I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. The sound quality of
> > > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > > slightly more. Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > > romantic.
>
> > > Boon
>
> > I'm glad to get that report, Marc, because I'm about to order one of
> > them. Thanks.
>
> > A dear old friend and colleague, George Roberts, played those sessions.
>
> I just reviewed them for our Audiophile Recordings column, and I
> pretty much said that I'll be using them for my next 50 or 60
> equipment reviews. *We're having a near blizzard here today (one of
> the worst winter storms in recent Portland history) and it's nice to
> have the fireplace going and one of these LPs spinning. *I also have
> the MFSL CD of NNE here for comparison and its very close in sound
> quality to the LP. *I'd give the edge to the LP just because it seems
> to preserve the time and place of the recording.

I don't have the LP, but I have the CD (I'm a huge MFSL fan). I'm glad
to hear that the CD nearly sounds as good as the LP.

I have a sealed Ella and Louis Again LP I'm afraid to open, as well as
a sealed Donald Fagen Nightfly. Maybe I'll sell them and buy used
copies. I also have a sealed Katy Lied, but I have two open copies of
that so no worries there. :-)

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
December 21st 08, 12:50 AM
On Dec 20, 5:40*pm, Boon > wrote:

> I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. *42 inches in 24
> hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. *So I've dealt with this
> before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.

Snow? What's that? We never get any in Minneapolis.

When I was in Basic Training at Ft. Sill there was frost on the grass
one morning. There was a guy from Hawaii who ran out and touched it.
"I've never seen snow before!" It did snow a couple of inches one day
and the whole post shut down. We loved it as PT was canceled.

Boon
December 21st 08, 01:19 AM
On Dec 20, 4:50�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 5:40�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. �42 inches in 24
> > hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. �So I've dealt with this
> > before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.
>
> Snow? What's that? We never get any in Minneapolis.
>
> When I was in Basic Training at Ft. Sill there was frost on the grass
> one morning. There was a guy from Hawaii who ran out and touched it.
> "I've never seen snow before!" It did snow a couple of inches one day
> and the whole post shut down. We loved it as PT was canceled.

Because Portland only gets a little bit of snow each year, they really
are having trouble adapting to a real storm. The problem is all of
the moisture here...it immediately turns to ice. It reminds me of
rainy seasons in LA. I'd tell someone that it rained 30 inches in a
single year, and they'd say oh, that's no big deal in our part of the
country. But when the ground is as dry as it is, 30 inches of rain
makes all of the mountains melt into the ocean.

I just looked outside...it's still coming down pretty hard. Close to
a foot, I'd imagine.

Boon

Jenn[_3_]
December 21st 08, 02:06 AM
In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 4:50?pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 5:40?pm, Boon > wrote:
> >
> > > I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. ?42 inches in 24
> > > hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. ?So I've dealt with this
> > > before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.
> >
> > Snow? What's that? We never get any in Minneapolis.
> >
> > When I was in Basic Training at Ft. Sill there was frost on the grass
> > one morning. There was a guy from Hawaii who ran out and touched it.
> > "I've never seen snow before!" It did snow a couple of inches one day
> > and the whole post shut down. We loved it as PT was canceled.
>
> Because Portland only gets a little bit of snow each year, they really
> are having trouble adapting to a real storm. The problem is all of
> the moisture here...it immediately turns to ice. It reminds me of
> rainy seasons in LA. I'd tell someone that it rained 30 inches in a
> single year, and they'd say oh, that's no big deal in our part of the
> country. But when the ground is as dry as it is, 30 inches of rain
> makes all of the mountains melt into the ocean.
>
> I just looked outside...it's still coming down pretty hard. Close to
> a foot, I'd imagine.
>
> Boon

A whole lot for there, for sure. Be careful.
Mark Hanson just wrote; three gigs cancelled in four days, plus a church
gig tomorrow. Tough for musicians to lose all of that at Christmas.
Kind of like retail being shut down on "black Friday".

Jenn[_3_]
December 21st 08, 08:52 AM
In article >,
"Soundhaspriority" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> >> > with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> >> > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> >> > later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> >> > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> >> > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> >> > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> >> > 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> >> > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> >> > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> >> > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> >> > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
> >>
> >> Are you referring to the ones that were done on a special "movie stock"
> >> sprocketed machine and recently retransferred?
> >>
> >> Bob Morein
> >> (310) 237-6511
> >
> > The Everests were recorded on 35mm film.
>
> OK, yes, I do have a pile of those. It was actually not film, but 35mm "mag
> stock", which is sprocketed mag tape.
>
> These recordings have been critically acclaimed. The review I read mentioned
> the presence of occasional wow (as in wow& flutter), but discounted the
> significance. I regret that, for me personally, it does detract from my
> enjoyment. They put a lot of effort into restoring/enhancing a machine in
> order to play the tapes, but the mass of the the platters is so large that,
> apparently, they were unable to achieve inaudible wow.
>
> You should try at least one. It may not bother you. Jenn, you're into vinyl,
> and vinyl does not have the inherent crystal locked stability of a modern
> project, so it may simply not hit you the way it hit me. In every other way,
> these are exceptional recordings.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

I got to the Sibelius record today, but will listen to the other two
tomorrow. The Sibelius is really good, for sure a keeper; just not one
of my favorites, at least not yet.

Wow does bother me on piano and guitar, and I hear it on really every LP
of those instruments played solo. So I just don't collect those LPs,
except where I really want a specific performance that isn't available
on CD. Just about all of the other instruments play with vibrato, so
the wow doesn't bother me much.

Thanks for the info.

Boon
December 21st 08, 05:10 PM
On Dec 20, 6:06�pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> �Boon > wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 4:50?pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, 5:40?pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > > I lived in Virginia during the Blizzard of '96. ?42 inches in 24
> > > > hours, and a total of 60 inches in 48. ?So I've dealt with this
> > > > before. But Portland is seriously freaking out right now.
>
> > > Snow? What's that? We never get any in Minneapolis.
>
> > > When I was in Basic Training at Ft. Sill there was frost on the grass
> > > one morning. There was a guy from Hawaii who ran out and touched it.
> > > "I've never seen snow before!" It did snow a couple of inches one day
> > > and the whole post shut down. We loved it as PT was canceled.
>
> > Because Portland only gets a little bit of snow each year, they really
> > are having trouble adapting to a real storm. �The problem is all of
> > the moisture here...it immediately turns to ice. �It reminds me of
> > rainy seasons in LA. �I'd tell someone that it rained 30 inches in a
> > single year, and they'd say oh, that's no big deal in our part of the
> > country. �But when the ground is as dry as it is, 30 inches of rain
> > makes all of the mountains melt into the ocean.
>
> > I just looked outside...it's still coming down pretty hard. �Close to
> > a foot, I'd imagine.
>
> > Boon
>
> A whole lot for there, for sure. �Be careful.
> Mark Hanson just wrote; three gigs cancelled in four days, plus a church
> gig tomorrow. �Tough for musicians to lose all of that at Christmas. �
> Kind of like retail being shut down on "black Friday".-

This storm is affecting the whole West Coast. I just found out my
father-in-law has been snowed in for several days, and he lives just
south of Palmdale. We were going to drive down to LA for the
holidays, but we just abandoned that plan and we're getting plane
tickets for Christmas day.

Boon

Harry Lavo
December 21st 08, 06:35 PM
"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> mixed; the conducting is fantastic.

In fact, I prefer Walter's Brahms series over all others I've heard (which
doesn't come close to all of them, I'll readily admit). I've tried to
analyze why, and I think it is because he eschews retards and keeps what I
can only call a "singing tempo" going throughout each movement of each
piece. There is a consistency, a "whole clotheness", a propolsive forward
movement to his interpretations that others often lack. Same is true with
his Beethoven series.

Am I barking up an imaginary tree, Jenn. Or if you understand what I am
getting at, can you explain it in more expert terms?

Harry Lavo
December 21st 08, 06:38 PM
"Boon" > wrote in message
...
> This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> Lonely, and they are spectacular. I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. The sound quality of
> NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> slightly more. Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> romantic.

The original Capital's were/are exceptionally fine sounding as well.

Jenn[_3_]
December 21st 08, 06:57 PM
In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Does anyone here have experience with Everest's original recordings or
> > with the Classic reissues? I picked up three of them on a very brief
> > trip to San Francisco this week, but I won't get to hear them until
> > later today. The only two recordings from that trip that I've heard so
> > far are yet another volume of Bach Cantatas by Gardiner/English Baroque
> > Soloists, which are really fine sounding CDs (not to mention FAB
> > performances), and a Classic Records LP reissue of Walter doing Brahms
> > 4, originally a Columbia recording. Mixed results there. I had
> > forgotten how good some early Columbia recordings were, before John
> > McClure made all of those bad sounding Bernstein recordings. The highs
> > are kind of dry, but the mids and bass are really good. The playing is
> > mixed; the conducting is fantastic.
>
> In fact, I prefer Walter's Brahms series over all others I've heard (which
> doesn't come close to all of them, I'll readily admit). I've tried to
> analyze why, and I think it is because he eschews retards and keeps what I
> can only call a "singing tempo" going throughout each movement of each
> piece. There is a consistency, a "whole clotheness", a propolsive forward
> movement to his interpretations that others often lack. Same is true with
> his Beethoven series.
>
> Am I barking up an imaginary tree, Jenn. Or if you understand what I am
> getting at, can you explain it in more expert terms?

I think that you explained it very well, Harry. Walter doesn't over
sentimentalize the scores. Clearly, the Romantic period composers
(later Beethoven, Brahms, et al) intended for the performers of their
music to add tempo variations and stresses (rubato, tenuto, etc.) that
aren't indicated in the music. But some performers tend to stretch the
music beyond all proportion. Bernstein is sometimes guilty of this.
While it can be great fun to experience (and I'm probably quite guilty
of this at times; witness the Wager that I did at Carnegie which I've
posted a link to here), it can be over done and not representative of
what the composer intended. And what is the task of the performer if
not to be the composer's advocate? Other performers, in my opinion, are
TOO strict about the letter of the score, and their performances tend to
be too "dry": Toscanini, Leinsdorf, Boulez, et al. It's about balance,
in my view. Walter finds that balance better than almost anyone else.
He lets the composer speak for himself, letting the lines sing their own
melody.

Boon
December 21st 08, 08:03 PM
On Dec 21, 10:38�am, "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > This is a little off the subject, but today I'm listening to the new
> > MFSL LP pressings of Frank Sinatra's Nice 'n' Easy and Only the
> > Lonely, and they are spectacular. �I'm not the biggest Sinatra fan in
> > the world, but I'm definitely enjoying these. �The sound quality of
> > NNE is a little more impressive, but I like the performance on OTL
> > slightly more. �Nelson Riddle's orchestra is the eiptome of lush and
> > romantic.
>
> The original Capital's were/are exceptionally fine sounding as well.

I bet. I'd enjoy comparing them.

Boon