TT
December 20th 08, 12:34 AM
Here is the post *from* Arny in response to my questions that I have stored
with him telling me all about the alleged KP incident. Everyone please
note the diescrenecies with what he has recently said.
Also since Arny has a lot of problems with Google accidentally deleting his
posts I would suggest to all interested parties that they start to save
anything that may become relevant in the future.
IMHO what is written here and what Arny has said constitutes a pack of lies.
Please refer to what AK said recently:
Shhh: How did the police get involved?
AK: Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.
Below he Klaims "he called them". One is a lie!
Shhhh: How long was it on your hard drive?
AK: No time at all because there never was any porn.
Below he Klaims "Some years later I reviewed it with a law enforcment
officer" One is a lie!
Shhh: Do you still have it?
AK: Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never
existed.
Below he Klaims "> Wrong again. The files have been totally deleted for
years. At the time when
> I deleted the post in question, I did not consider the fact that it was
> still in my deleted email folder." More lies???
Please read on and you be the judge.
Regards TT
__________________________________________________ ____
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>...
> "TT" > wrote in message
> . au
> > To summarise the facts as presented by Arny:
>
> > 1) Arny was sent some porn
>
> True, and the item in question was not the only thing. The source was
> quite
> clearly based in RAO.
>
> > 2) At the time Arny claimed it was of an adult and an
> > infant
>
> Very wrong. When received, I thought it was of young people, based on its
> appearance and the accompanying text.
>
> Some years later I reviewed it with a law enforcment officer who said that
> it may or may not have been of a child. He said that many sources of
> kiddie
> porn use photographs that they can document as being of adults, when law
> enforcement comes knocking.
>
>
> > 3) At prompting from the group Arny went to the police
>
> True. This was maybe 3 years later. Note that Art and other RAO regulars
> at
> the time had been bringing this and other related issue up very frequently
> for the whole time.
>
> >) The officer explained it was of consenting adults
>
> Wrong, the officer said that it was not provably of children, if taken to
> court. He said that it could be of small, young adults.
>
> > 5) Arny still calls it KP (kiddie porn) even
> > though it is obviously (to others except Arny) of adults
>
> Wrong again. Art calls it KP, and when I respond to his childish taunts, I
> have stopped trying to correct him because he is incorrigable and
> impossible
> to educate. Sort of like you, Terry.
>
> > 6) Arny doesn't know how to delete old files from his
> > Outlook Express deleted posts folder
>
> Wrong again. The files have been totally deleted for years. At the time
> when
> I deleted the post in question, I did not consider the fact that it was
> still in my deleted email folder.
>
> > 7) Somewhere in all this Arny's departed son features
>
> Terry plays stupid again. Its not a matter of somewhere, the email in
> question was all about how I had abused Nate.
>
> > 8) Arny is wildly accusing all and sundry of
> > sending him illegal KP (when it is actually legal porn)
>
> Wrong again. I've explained this all in detail many times.
>
>
> > Some questions arising from this:
>
> > 1) So why does Arny continue to call it KP when it
> > obviously isn't?
>
> Because that is what Art calls it when he brings it up for the zillionth
> time. Note that Terry has done the same.
>
> > 2) Does Arny still have the material stored?
>
> It's been long gone. But note that Terry solicited me for it, knowing full
> well that sending it to him was against the law. He obviously wanted to
> entrap me. This speaks to Terry's honesty (nil), prejudice (max) and bias
> (hatred).
>
> > 3) Why does Arny continue to bring up his
> > departed son in reference to this?
>
> Because that is what the porn purported to be of - hence the description
> "Dead Nate".
>
> > 4) Is it just me or
> > does it appear to others that Arny's "grandstanding"
> > backfired?
>
> It's you Terry and everybody else who entertains themselves with low life
> like this.
>
> >5) What have I left out that is relevant to this?
>
> A lot of relevant facts. Your discussion was full of grevious errors and
> misunderstandings, some of which I've corrected before but that you like
> to
> repeat again and again becuase you are either very stupid or full of hate
> or
> both.
>
> >6) Does anyone see a way to bring this tragic
> > episode to a conclusion?
>
> If Art and Terry would keep their mouths shut it would help. But they are
> so
> full of fear and hate that it will never happen. I predict that this issue
> will come up again within 30 days, even it somehow it temporarily stops
> right now.
>
>
with him telling me all about the alleged KP incident. Everyone please
note the diescrenecies with what he has recently said.
Also since Arny has a lot of problems with Google accidentally deleting his
posts I would suggest to all interested parties that they start to save
anything that may become relevant in the future.
IMHO what is written here and what Arny has said constitutes a pack of lies.
Please refer to what AK said recently:
Shhh: How did the police get involved?
AK: Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.
Below he Klaims "he called them". One is a lie!
Shhhh: How long was it on your hard drive?
AK: No time at all because there never was any porn.
Below he Klaims "Some years later I reviewed it with a law enforcment
officer" One is a lie!
Shhh: Do you still have it?
AK: Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never
existed.
Below he Klaims "> Wrong again. The files have been totally deleted for
years. At the time when
> I deleted the post in question, I did not consider the fact that it was
> still in my deleted email folder." More lies???
Please read on and you be the judge.
Regards TT
__________________________________________________ ____
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>...
> "TT" > wrote in message
> . au
> > To summarise the facts as presented by Arny:
>
> > 1) Arny was sent some porn
>
> True, and the item in question was not the only thing. The source was
> quite
> clearly based in RAO.
>
> > 2) At the time Arny claimed it was of an adult and an
> > infant
>
> Very wrong. When received, I thought it was of young people, based on its
> appearance and the accompanying text.
>
> Some years later I reviewed it with a law enforcment officer who said that
> it may or may not have been of a child. He said that many sources of
> kiddie
> porn use photographs that they can document as being of adults, when law
> enforcement comes knocking.
>
>
> > 3) At prompting from the group Arny went to the police
>
> True. This was maybe 3 years later. Note that Art and other RAO regulars
> at
> the time had been bringing this and other related issue up very frequently
> for the whole time.
>
> >) The officer explained it was of consenting adults
>
> Wrong, the officer said that it was not provably of children, if taken to
> court. He said that it could be of small, young adults.
>
> > 5) Arny still calls it KP (kiddie porn) even
> > though it is obviously (to others except Arny) of adults
>
> Wrong again. Art calls it KP, and when I respond to his childish taunts, I
> have stopped trying to correct him because he is incorrigable and
> impossible
> to educate. Sort of like you, Terry.
>
> > 6) Arny doesn't know how to delete old files from his
> > Outlook Express deleted posts folder
>
> Wrong again. The files have been totally deleted for years. At the time
> when
> I deleted the post in question, I did not consider the fact that it was
> still in my deleted email folder.
>
> > 7) Somewhere in all this Arny's departed son features
>
> Terry plays stupid again. Its not a matter of somewhere, the email in
> question was all about how I had abused Nate.
>
> > 8) Arny is wildly accusing all and sundry of
> > sending him illegal KP (when it is actually legal porn)
>
> Wrong again. I've explained this all in detail many times.
>
>
> > Some questions arising from this:
>
> > 1) So why does Arny continue to call it KP when it
> > obviously isn't?
>
> Because that is what Art calls it when he brings it up for the zillionth
> time. Note that Terry has done the same.
>
> > 2) Does Arny still have the material stored?
>
> It's been long gone. But note that Terry solicited me for it, knowing full
> well that sending it to him was against the law. He obviously wanted to
> entrap me. This speaks to Terry's honesty (nil), prejudice (max) and bias
> (hatred).
>
> > 3) Why does Arny continue to bring up his
> > departed son in reference to this?
>
> Because that is what the porn purported to be of - hence the description
> "Dead Nate".
>
> > 4) Is it just me or
> > does it appear to others that Arny's "grandstanding"
> > backfired?
>
> It's you Terry and everybody else who entertains themselves with low life
> like this.
>
> >5) What have I left out that is relevant to this?
>
> A lot of relevant facts. Your discussion was full of grevious errors and
> misunderstandings, some of which I've corrected before but that you like
> to
> repeat again and again becuase you are either very stupid or full of hate
> or
> both.
>
> >6) Does anyone see a way to bring this tragic
> > episode to a conclusion?
>
> If Art and Terry would keep their mouths shut it would help. But they are
> so
> full of fear and hate that it will never happen. I predict that this issue
> will come up again within 30 days, even it somehow it temporarily stops
> right now.
>
>