Lay it out for those of us who weren't around, GOIA

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and around. Lay out
what happened, GOIA. As a self-proclaimed "seeker and espouser of
truth" you'd be well-served to get the truth out. As it is, there are
a number of people who are pretty consistent with one version. Let's
hear yours so a balanced opinion can be formed.

So who sent you the porn? How did the police get involved? Do you
still have the pictures?

A chronological timeline would probably be the easiest. Lay out the
truth, GOIA, so that those of us who weren't here can see what
happened. Refusing to do so is a tacit admission that you prefer to
keep talking about it. You can put it to bed by announcing the truth
right here, right now.

And no, I have no desire to sift through hundreds of posts in the
Google archives when you can lay it out within a couple of minutes.

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message


> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> around.

That's because some really cruel and stupid people want to see it, and the
tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as possible. It's
what they have been doing for the last 10 years.

****R, why don't you see if you can find someone who lost a family member in
9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your personal entertainment?
I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure as you are seeking
right now. :-(

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 18, 7:49*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >

> > This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> > around.
>
> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want to see it, and the
> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as possible. It's
> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.

I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to it". GOIA. Just
how you came to possess porn and what happened from there. Who sent
it? How did the police get involved? How long was it on your hard
drive? Do you still have it?

> My Liege, why don't you see if you can find someone who lost a family member in
> 9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your personal entertainment?

I fail to see what this has to do with possessing porn on a PC, kiddie
or otherwise.

> I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure as you are seeking
> right now. :-(

I'm afraid that all we can do is accept that Terry, Boon and the
others are telling the truth. :-(

After all: <no response to a critical point - presume that the
respondent conceeds it>

[Arny Krueger]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote with glee
>> and anticipation:

>>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
>>> around.

Think of ****R as a carron-eating bird, foolishly thinking that it is
circling over a nearly-dead body.

The body actually feeling quite refreshed and interested in bird for
breakfast stands up and shouts:

>> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
>> to see it, and the tragic events leading up to it,
>> re-lived as many times as possible. It's
>> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.

The carron-eater jumps back, and whimpers:

> I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to it" my master and
> commander.

But you do want to relive the past, don't you ****R?

****R, why don't you see if you can find someone who lost a family member in
9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your personal entertainment?
I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure as you are seeking
right now.

BTW ****R how does this work? Do you get emails stimulating you to waste
your time like this, or telephone calls, and from whom? Or, are you so well
trained that you know how and when to do it on your own? Is Dr Gindi still
pulling the strings around here as Atkinson recently revealed had done so in
the past?

Don't you have a life?

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 09:19, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote with glee
> >> and anticipation:
> >>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> >>> around.
>
> Think of ****R as a carron-eating bird, foolishly thinking that it is
> circling over a nearly-dead body.
>
> The body actually feeling quite refreshed and interested in bird for
> breakfast stands up and shouts:
>
> >> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
> >> to see it, and the tragic events leading up to it,
> >> re-lived as many times as possible. It's
> >> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>
> The carron-eater jumps back, and whimpers:
>
> > I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to it" my master and
> > commander.
>
> But you do want to relive the past, don't you ****R?
>
> ****R, why don't you see if you can find someone who lost a family member in
> 9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your personal entertainment?
> I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure as you are seeking
> right now.
>
> BTW ****R how does this work? *Do you get emails stimulating you to waste
> your time like this, or telephone calls, and from whom? Or, are you so well
> trained that you *know how and when to do it on your own? *Is Dr Gindi still
> pulling the strings around here as Atkinson recently revealed had done so in
> the past?
>
> Don't you have a life?
>
> begin 666 frown.gif
> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$``````+V]O8RM_[V]O2'Y! $```,`+ `````/``\```(O
> MG V9QY,"X6) QBK P?A*E$5BI76/9*:7*K:K"Y^H,CK6^-GPM>U9(T,U-@H-
> $HP``.P``
> `
> end

The end?
we can always hope that this was your final meltdown.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 09:19, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> Don't you have a life?
>
> begin 666 frown.gif
> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$``````+V]O8RM_[V]O2'Y! $```,`+ `````/``\```(O
> MG V9QY,"X6) QBK P?A*E$5BI76/9*:7*K:K"Y^H,CK6^-GPM>U9(T,U-@H-
> $HP``.P``
> `
> end

Looks like the devil made you do this.
He probably also made you do all the other
****ty things you have done here

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii, you led us to believe you were taking some anti-gibberish meds.
Were you lying then or are you lying now? (That's a rhetorical question,
of course.)

> a carron-eating bird

What is "carron"? My guess is it's your pet euphemism for "sun-dried
turds".

> The carron-eater

Where do you get your supply of dried turds, Arnii? Do you have to fight
off the other coprophages to secure it?

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for cover:

> A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas Kroodown
George, what is a Kroodown?



<no coherent or relevant answer expected>

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 11:32�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for cover:
>
> > �A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas Kroodown
>
> George, what is a Kroodown?
>
> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>

Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer the same way you
evaded the question about posting on RAO on the day of your son's
funeral? Do you think there's a secret meaning behind "Kroodown"?
It's short for one of your meltdowns.

Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that it's
appalling. You're a tired, sick old man. Go away.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>>
>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for
>> cover:

>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
>>> Kroodown

>> George, what is a Kroodown?

>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>

Notice the following attempt to distract attention from the question:

> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer the
> same way you evaded the question about posting on RAO on
> the day of your son's funeral?

No, since the question about the funeral is asked and answered.

> Do you think there's a
> secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one of
> your meltdowns.

As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to fight his battles for
him.

> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that
> it's appalling. You're a tired, sick old man. Go away.

Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 09:41, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Arnii, you led us to believe you were taking some anti-gibberish meds.
> Were you lying then or are you lying now? (That's a rhetorical question,
> of course.)
>
> > a carron-eating bird
>
> What is "carron"? My guess is it's your pet euphemism for "sun-dried
> turds".
>
> > The carron-eater
>
> Where do you get your supply of dried turds, Arnii? Do you have to fight
> off the other coprophages to secure it?

Could you imagine the Christmas Story we would
have if only Dickens had known Krooger.

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 11:45�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> >> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> >> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for
> >> cover:
> >>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
> >>> Kroodown
> >> George, what is a Kroodown?
> >> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>
> Notice the following attempt to distract attention from the question:
>
> > Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer the
> > same way you evaded the question about posting on RAO on
> > the day of your son's funeral?
>
> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and answered.

It was unacceptable to normal people. Your family needed you, and you
retired to a room by yourself and started posting to Internet
strangers who despise you.

>
> > Do you think there's a
> > secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one of
> > your meltdowns.
>
> As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to fight his battles for
> him.

No. It just disgusted me to see how desperate you've become.

>
> > Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that
> > it's appalling. �You're a tired, sick old man. �Go away..
>
> Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?

Where did that dumb and pointless retort come from? Or were you just
agreeing with my comment that you've become feeble and nonsensical?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>>
>>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for
>>>> cover:
>>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
>>>>> Kroodown
>>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
>>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>>
>> Notice the following attempt to distract attention from
>> the question:
>>
>>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer the
>>> same way you evaded the question about posting on RAO on
>>> the day of your son's funeral?
>>
>> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
>> answered.

> It was unacceptable to normal people.

As if you're a normal person, Marc?

> Your family needed you,

I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their world.

> and you retired to a room by yourself and started
> posting to Internet strangers who despise you.

Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think that this reflects on
you?

>>> Do you think there's a
>>> secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one of
>>> your meltdowns.

>> As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to fight
>> his battles for him.

> No. It just disgusted me to see how desperate you've
> become.

Marc, you need to feel disgusted to motivate yourself to be so hostile and
argumentative don't you?


>>> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that
>>> it's appalling. ?You're a tired, sick old man. ?Go away.

>> Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?

> Where did that dumb and pointless retort come from?

Estimate of how childish you are, Marc.

> Or were you just agreeing with my comment that you've become
> feeble and nonsensical?

I'm just waiting for you to blow away, like you always do.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

ForeverInTheDarkBorg stumbles and falls into the pit.

> > A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas Kroodown

> George, what is a Kroodown?

I can certainly understand why you might not know that, Turdy. From inside
the eye of a storm, it must be difficult to see what those on the outside
see.

So for your benefit, I found an illustrative example. Here is a recording
that should give you an idea of how you sound to the rest of us during a
Kroodown:

http://tinyurl.com/4moajg

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that it's
> appalling. You're a tired, sick old man. Go away.

Tell you what, Arnii -- we'll all chip in to help you go away. Where do you
want to go to? We'll get you a first class bus ticket to your chosen
destination. Merry xmas, TurdBorg!

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 11:57�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> >>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> >>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for
> >>>> cover:
> >>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
> >>>>> Kroodown
> >>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
> >>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>
> >> Notice the following attempt to distract attention from
> >> the question:
>
> >>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer the
> >>> same way you evaded the question about posting on RAO on
> >>> the day of your son's funeral?
>
> >> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
> >> answered.
> > It was unacceptable to normal people.
>
> As if you're a normal person, Marc?

I'm a very normal person.

>
> > Your family needed �you,
>
> I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their world.

You are on the day of your son's funeral. Unless you needed to be
alone to grieve, you should have been comforting them.

>
> > �and you retired to a room by yourself and started
> > posting to Internet strangers who despise you.
>
> Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think that this reflects on
> you?

Yes. I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object to sharing
bandwidth with them.

>
> >>> Do you think there's a
> >>> secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one of
> >>> your meltdowns.
> >> As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to fight
> >> his battles for him.
> > No. �It just disgusted me to see how desperate you've
> > become.
>
> Marc, you need to feel disgusted to motivate yourself to be so hostile and
> argumentative don't you?

No. It's a natural reaction to be disgusted by you. Note that I'm
only one of several people disgusted with you in this newsgroup.

>
> >>> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that
> >>> it's appalling. ?You're a tired, sick old man. ?Go away.
> >> Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?
> > Where did that dumb and pointless retort come from?
>
> Estimate of how childish you are, Marc.

No, it was a really childish comment by you. It reeked of desperation
as well. You've run out of ideas.

>
> > �Or were you just agreeing with my comment that you've become
> > feeble and nonsensical?
>
> I'm just waiting for you to blow away, like you always do.

Oh, Jesus, the "unexplained absence" argument again. It's quite
telling that you don't understand how people might have other things
to do than to spend their lives on Usenet. It's a feature of your
personality disorders that those people aren't working on projects, or
exploring a new hobby, or are simply bored with the proceedings. No,
they have to be in jail or something.

Nope...Arny Krueger just has an empty life, and he fills it with
Usenet. Everyone else should, too!

Or how about your insistence that I can't hold down a job? It's quite
telling that you can't recognize a business opportunity, or a
promotion or a chance to do something new. No, your enemies are
either fired or unemployable.

Again, it just shows that Arny Krueger doesn't get a lot of phone
calls for employment opportunities. So he fills his empty life with
Usenet. Everyone else should, too!

This is the very definition of a paranoid/narcissistic personality
disorder. I'd start removing these posts from the archives if I were
you...they're going to get you thrown into the looney bin.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 15:43, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Boon said:
>
> > Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical that it's
> > appalling. *You're a tired, sick old man. *Go away.
>
> Tell you what, Arnii -- we'll all chip in to help you go away. Where do you
> want to go to? We'll get you a first class bus ticket to your chosen
> destination. Merry xmas, TurdBorg!

here is the ticket agent
http://www.borgbuss.no/

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 18, 8:19*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in
>
> > On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote with glee
> >> and anticipation:
> >>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> >>> around.
>
> Think of ****R as a carron-eating bird, foolishly thinking that it is
> circling over a nearly-dead body.

Why do you keep trying to tell everybody how to think, GOIA? Nobody
buys it.

> The body actually feeling quite refreshed and interested in bird for
> breakfast stands up and shouts:

Delusional much? LOL!

> >> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
> >> to see it, and the tragic events leading up to it,
> >> re-lived as many times as possible. It's
> >> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.

Again, GOIA, no requests for any detail on "events leading up to it"
have been made. Just the facts as you see them surrounding your kiddie
porn collection.

I think it's a curious thing that you had some kiddie porn (since you
haven't denied that it must be true) and that the police somehow got
involved. I'm willing to listen to your side, but since all that seems
to be forthcoming is whines and distractions, the only option is to
believe the other side's timeline.

Those are your rules, BTW.

> The carron-eater jumps back, and whimpers:

"Whimpers"? Your thesaurus is as faulty as your "posse" member
sugar's.

> > I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to it" GOIA.

See? I said it again.

> But you do want to relive the past, don't you ****R?

No, I think it's fair to hear both sides. I've asked for yours. Since
you would rather deny, insult, & etc/ & etc. under your own rules
therefore what has been said by Terry, Boon, et al is true.

> ****R, why don't you see if you can find someone who lost a family member in
> 9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your personal entertainment?

Your kiddie porn collection is tantamount to the 9/11 tragedy? How?

> I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure as you are seeking
> right now.

I am seeking the truth that you said was your mission here. Were you
lying about that?

> BTW ****R how does this work? *Do you get emails stimulating you to waste
> your time like this, or telephone calls, and from whom? Or, are you so well
> trained that you *know how and when to do it on your own? *Is Dr Gindi still
> pulling the strings around here as Atkinson recently revealed had done so in
> the past?

Irrelevant attempt at distraction ignored.

> Don't you have a life?

A very nice one, thanks. And you?

> begin 666 frown.gif
> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$``````+V]O8RM_[V]O2'Y! $```,`+ `````/``\```(O
> MG V9QY,"X6) QBK P?A*E$5BI76/9*:7*K:K"Y^H,CK6^-GPM>U9(T,U-@H-
> $HP``.P``
> `
> end

LOL! Insane much?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 18, 1:32*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running for cover:
>
> > *A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas Kroodown
>
> George, what is a Kroodown?

Rather than offer a definition, why don't you review your posts of the
past several days. If you still don't understand the word you should
probably check back into your hospital.

[TT]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >

> > This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> > around.
>
> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want to
> see it, and the
> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as
> possible. It's
> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.

I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to it".
GOIA. Just
how you came to possess porn and what happened from there.
Who sent
it? How did the police get involved? How long was it on your
hard
drive? Do you still have it?

> My Liege, why don't you see if you can find someone who
> lost a family member in
> 9/11, and ask them to relive that in detail for your
> personal entertainment?

I fail to see what this has to do with possessing porn on a
PC, kiddie
or otherwise.

> I'm sure doing that would give you just as much pleasure
> as you are seeking
> right now. :-(

I'm afraid that all we can do is accept that Terry, Boon and
the
others are telling the truth. :-(

After all: <no response to a critical point - presume that
the
respondent conceeds it>

I asked the same questions a while ago and I have saved the
post where AK spells it out. I will try and dig it out for
you and repost it.

Basically, the short version, is there was no KP, it was a
whole pack of lies to gain sympathy/attention and AK would
rather be known as paedophile than a liar!

Like you, I always gave Arny the benefit of the doubt and
the opportunity to give his version but I am now seriously
concerned about his mental health and his sexual
preferences.

Be prepared for Arny to "muddy the waters" here as it is in
his best interests to not have the truth come out.

All he has to do make an apology to everyone about how he
has told a few whoppers and we can bury this whole sad and
sick episode.

Cheers TT

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 11:57?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>>
>>>>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running
>>>>>> for cover:
>>>>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
>>>>>>> Kroodown
>>>>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
>>>>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>>
>>>> Notice the following attempt to distract attention from
>>>> the question:
>>
>>>>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer
>>>>> the same way you evaded the question about posting on
>>>>> RAO on the day of your son's funeral?
>>
>>>> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
>>>> answered.
>>> It was unacceptable to normal people.
>>
>> As if you're a normal person, Marc?
>
> I'm a very normal person.
>
>>
>>> Your family needed ?you,
>>
>> I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their
>> world.
>
> You are on the day of your son's funeral. Unless you
> needed to be alone to grieve, you should have been
> comforting them.

I'm thinking about what sort of overbearing twit it takes to try to tell
someone how to grieve. Marc, you're obviously that twit.

>>> ?and you retired to a room by yourself and started
>>> posting to Internet strangers who despise you.

>> Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think
>> that this reflects on you?

> Yes. I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object to
> sharing bandwidth with them.

Yes Marc, there's a pedophile under every bed, including yours.

Why don't you just grow up?

>>>>> Do you think there's a
>>>>> secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one
>>>>> of your meltdowns.
>>>> As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to
>>>> fight his battles for him.
>>> No. ?It just disgusted me to see how desperate you've
>>> become.

>> Marc, you need to feel disgusted to motivate yourself to
>> be so hostile and argumentative don't you?

> No. It's a natural reaction to be disgusted by you.

Marc, what really disgusts you are your paranoid delusions - the pedophiles
are out to get you.

> Note that I'm only one of several people disgusted with
> you in this newsgroup.

How many of those so-called several people are sockpuppets?

How many are known to be delusional on completely independent grounds?

>>>>> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical
>>>>> that it's appalling. ?You're a tired, sick old man.
>>>>> ?Go away.
>>>> Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?
>>> Where did that dumb and pointless retort come from?

>> Estimate of how childish you are, Marc.

> No, it was a really childish comment by you. It reeked
> of desperation as well. You've run out of ideas.

I've run out of ideas? LOL! Let me count Marc's lame IKWYABWAIs.

>>> ?Or were you just agreeing with my comment that you've
>>> become feeble and nonsensical?

>> I'm just waiting for you to blow away, like you always
>> do.

> Oh, Jesus, the "unexplained absence" argument again.

Make that the unexplained absence facts.


> It's quite telling that you don't understand how people
> might have other things to do than to spend their lives
> on Usenet.

Tell that to people like the Middiot and ****R who never take any time off.

> It's a feature of your personality disorders
> that those people aren't working on projects, or
> exploring a new hobby, or are simply bored with the
> proceedings. No, they have to be in jail or something.

No Marc, just you.

> Nope...Arny Krueger just has an empty life, and he fills
> it with Usenet. Everyone else should, too!

Sorry Marc, but when your mainlining on RAO there doesn't seem to be a time
of day or night that you aren't here. And then you are gone, for months at a
time.

> Or how about your insistence that I can't hold down a
> job?

Something about you bragging about your new jobs.

> It's quite telling that you can't recognize a
> business opportunity, or a promotion or a chance to do
> something new.

In your case Marc, that happens what, about every 6 monhts?

> No, your enemies are either fired or
> unemployable.

So Marc, who have ****R and the Middiot working for lately? How about you?

> Again, it just shows that Arny Krueger doesn't get a lot
> of phone calls for employment opportunities. So he fills
> his empty life with Usenet. Everyone else should, too!

Marc, I own a business. I'm as busy as I want to be. I'm not a wage slave
like you.

> This is the very definition of a paranoid/narcissistic
> personality disorder. I'd start removing these posts
> from the archives if I were you...they're going to get
> you thrown into the looney bin.

Only in your dreams, Marc. With all your talk about looney bins, one might
ask why you are so obsessed with them.

[Arny Krueger]

"TT" > wrote in message

> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> wrote in message
> ...
> On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>
>>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
>>> around.
>>
>> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
>> to see it, and the
>> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as
>> possible. It's
>> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>
> I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to
> it". GOIA. Just how you came to possess porn and what happened from
> there.

What porn?

> Who sent it?

Sent what?

> How did the police get involved?

Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.

> How long was it on your hard drive?

No time at all because there never was any porn.

> Do you still have it?

Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never existed.

Well, maybe in your little universe, you can.

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 21:52, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:


>
> > How long was it on your hard *drive?
>
> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Do you still have it?
>
> Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never existed.
>
>



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARNY ADMITS HIS KP ALLEGATIONS WERE ALL LIES'
ARNY ADMITS THERE WAS NO PORN, HE NEVER POSSSESED IT
ARNY ADMITS THE KP NEVER EXISTED
THERERORE HE ADMITS NOBOBY EVER SENT IT TO HIM, SINCE IT NEVER EXISTED
ARNY ADMITS HIS MPS MEETING WAS A FRAUD, IT NEVER HAPPENED

[Clyde Slick]

On 18 Dec, 21:52, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>
> >>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> >>> around.
>
> >> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
> >> to see it, and the
> >> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as
> >> possible. It's
> >> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>
> > I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to
> > it". GOIA. Just *how you came to possess porn and what happened from
> > there.
>
> What porn?
>
> > Who sent it?
>
> Sent what?
>
> > How did the police get involved?
>
> Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.
>
> > How long was it on your hard *drive?
>
> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Do you still have it?
>
> Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never existed.
>

MOST OF ALL, ARNY ADMITS THAT HE KNOWINGLY
FALSELY ACCUSED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
SENDING HIM KP THAT HE NOW ADMITS NEVER EXISTED.

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 6:49�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 11:57?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "George M. Middius" > wrote
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> >>>>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running
> >>>>>> for cover:
> >>>>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's pre-Xmas
> >>>>>>> Kroodown
> >>>>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
> >>>>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>
> >>>> Notice the following attempt to distract attention from
> >>>> the question:
>
> >>>>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer
> >>>>> the same way you evaded the question about posting on
> >>>>> RAO on the day of your son's funeral?
>
> >>>> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
> >>>> answered.
> >>> It was unacceptable to normal people.
>
> >> As if you're a normal person, Marc?
>
> > I'm a very normal person.
>
> >>> Your family needed ?you,
>
> >> I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their
> >> world.
>
> > You are on the day of your son's funeral. �Unless you
> > needed to be alone to grieve, you should have been
> > comforting them.
>
> I'm thinking about what sort of overbearing twit it takes to try to tell
> someone how to grieve. Marc, you're obviously that twit.

I'm not telling you how to grieve. But if your idea of grieving is
hanging out with strangers on the Internet who despise you, then it's
time to ask a grief counselor why you're so antisocial.

>
> >>> ?and you retired to a room by yourself and started
> >>> posting to Internet strangers who despise you.
> >> Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think
> >> that this reflects on you?
> > Yes. �I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object to
> > sharing bandwidth with them.
>
> Yes Marc, there's a pedophile under every bed, including yours.

There's no pedophile under my bed. What a stupid thing to say.

>
> Why don't you just grow up?

Grown-ups like myself do not approve of pedophiles. Evidently you
think pedophilia is okay, since you think that's it's a step above
being a liar. Ergo, you need to grow up. Or get thrown in jail.

>
> >>>>> Do you think there's a
> >>>>> secret meaning behind "Kroodown"? It's short for one
> >>>>> of your meltdowns.
> >>>> As usual the Middiot sends out a petulant child to
> >>>> fight his battles for him.
> >>> No. ?It just disgusted me to see how desperate you've
> >>> become.
> >> Marc, you need to feel disgusted to motivate yourself to
> >> be so hostile and argumentative don't you?
> > No. �It's a natural reaction to be disgusted by you.
>
> Marc, what really disgusts you are your paranoid delusions - the pedophiles
> are out to get you.

I only know one pedophile. You.

>
> > Note that I'm only one of several people disgusted with
> > you in this newsgroup.
>
> How many of those so-called several people are sockpuppets?

Straw man.

>
> How many are known to be delusional on completely independent grounds?

None.

>
> >>>>> Your retorts have become so feeble and nonsensical
> >>>>> that it's appalling. ?You're a tired, sick old man.
> >>>>> ?Go away.
> >>>> Isn't your mother calling you home, Marc?
> >>> Where did that dumb and pointless retort come from?
> >> Estimate of how childish you are, Marc.
> > No, it was a really childish comment by you. �It reeked
> > of desperation as well. �You've run out of ideas.
>
> I've run out of ideas? LOL! Let me count Marc's lame IKWYABWAIs.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

>
> >>> ?Or were you just agreeing with my comment that you've
> >>> become feeble and nonsensical?
> >> I'm just waiting for you to blow away, like you always
> >> do.
> > Oh, Jesus, the "unexplained absence" argument again.
>
> Make that the unexplained absence facts.

No, I've explained the absences.

>
> > It's quite telling that you don't understand how people
> > might have other things to do than to spend their lives
> > on Usenet.
>
> Tell that to people like the Middiot and ****R who never take any time off.

They're not accusing me of unexplained absences.

>
> > �It's a feature of your personality disorders
> > that those people aren't working on projects, or
> > exploring a new hobby, or are simply bored with the
> > proceedings. �No, they have to be in jail or something.
>
> No Marc, just you.

I've never been in jail.

>
> > Nope...Arny Krueger just has an empty life, and he fills
> > it with Usenet. �Everyone else should, too!
>
> Sorry Marc, but �when your mainlining on RAO there doesn't seem to be a time
> of day or night that you aren't here. And then you are gone, for months at a
> time.

Sometimes it's more interesting than others. I like watching the
Kroodowns.

>
> > Or how about your insistence that I can't hold down a
> > job?
>
> Something about you bragging about your new jobs.

When?

>
> > It's quite telling that you can't recognize a
> > business opportunity, or a promotion or a chance to do
> > something new.
>
> In your case Marc, that happens what, about every 6 monhts?

I don't know what a monht is. But I've been freelancing for 3 years.
Before that, I had the same job for 8 years. Before that, 5 years.
>
> > �No, your enemies are either fired or
> > unemployable.
>
> So Marc, who have ****R and the Middiot working for lately?

You need to ask them that.

�How about you?

We just went over that.

>
> > Again, it just shows that Arny Krueger doesn't get a lot
> > of phone calls for employment opportunities. �So he fills
> > his empty life with Usenet. �Everyone else should, too!
>
> Marc, I own a business. I'm as busy as I want to be. I'm not a wage slave
> like you.

I'm a freelance writer, douchebag. I'm just like you, only
successful.

>
> > This is the very definition of a paranoid/narcissistic
> > personality disorder. �I'd start removing these posts
> > from the archives if I were you...they're going to get
> > you thrown into the looney bin.
>
> Only in your dreams, Marc. With all your talk about looney bins, one might
> ask why you are so �obsessed with them.-

My background in psychology, perhaps.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 6:52�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> No time at all because there never was any porn.

Congratulations on taking the first step out of your mental illness.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 7:00�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 18 Dec, 21:52, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "TT" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > > wrote in message
> > ....
> > > On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > wrote:
> > >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>
> > >>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> > >>> around.
>
> > >> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
> > >> to see it, and the
> > >> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as
> > >> possible. It's
> > >> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>
> > > I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to
> > > it". GOIA. Just �how you came to possess porn and what happened from
> > > there.
>
> > What porn?
>
> > > Who sent it?
>
> > Sent what?
>
> > > How did the police get involved?
>
> > Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.
>
> > > How long was it on your hard �drive?
>
> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > > Do you still have it?
>
> > Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never existed.
>
> MOST OF ALL, ARNY ADMITS THAT HE KNOWINGLY
> FALSELY ACCUSED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
> SENDING HIM KP THAT HE NOW ADMITS NEVER EXISTED.-

If there was never any porn, then Arny needs to make a few apologies.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 6:49?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>
>>> On Dec 18, 11:57?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> "George M. Middius" >
>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>>
>>>>>>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running
>>>>>>>> for cover:
>>>>>>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's
>>>>>>>>> pre-Xmas Kroodown
>>>>>>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
>>>>>>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>>
>>>>>> Notice the following attempt to distract attention
>>>>>> from the question:
>>
>>>>>>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer
>>>>>>> the same way you evaded the question about posting
>>>>>>> on RAO on the day of your son's funeral?
>>
>>>>>> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
>>>>>> answered.
>>>>> It was unacceptable to normal people.
>>
>>>> As if you're a normal person, Marc?
>>
>>> I'm a very normal person.

Umm, free-lancing. IOW, habitually unemployed.

>>>>> Your family needed ?you,
>>
>>>> I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their
>>>> world.
>>
>>> You are on the day of your son's funeral. ?Unless you
>>> needed to be alone to grieve, you should have been
>>> comforting them.
>>
>> I'm thinking about what sort of overbearing twit it
>> takes to try to tell someone how to grieve. Marc, you're
>> obviously that twit.

> I'm not telling you how to grieve.

Sure you are. One of the way I greived was to visit RAO. It was a
friendlier, kinder place in those days. The Middiot posse hadn't yet chased
almost all of the music lovers away.


> But if your idea of
> grieving is hanging out with strangers on the Internet
> who despise you, then it's time to ask a grief counselor
> why you're so antisocial.

Marc, so in your book, hanging out with people who have a like interest is
being antisocial? Remember, in those days the Middiot posse hadn't yet
chased almost all of the music lovers away. Literally 100s of people posted
here.

>>>>> ?and you retired to a room by yourself and started
>>>>> posting to Internet strangers who despise you.
>>>> Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think
>>>> that this reflects on you?
>>> Yes. ?I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object
>>> to sharing bandwidth with them.

>> Yes Marc, there's a pedophile under every bed, including
>> yours.

> There's no pedophile under my bed. What a stupid thing
> to say.

Marc, you act that way. You quiver with fear and anger. You're like a little
girl.

>> Why don't you just grow up?

> Grown-ups like myself do not approve of pedophiles.

A truism, but one that most people don't obsess over like you do.

> Evidently you think pedophilia is okay, since you think
> that's it's a step above being a liar.

Are you free-associating again, Marc?

Where did I say that?

> Ergo, you need to grow up. Or get thrown in jail.

Marc, you're simply nuts. You live in your own little universe where the
pedophiles are out to get you.

[TT]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>> wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote:
>>> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>>> >
>>
>>>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
>>>> around.
>>>
>>> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
>>> to see it, and the
>>> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times
>>> as
>>> possible. It's
>>> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>>
>> I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to
>> it". GOIA. Just how you came to possess porn and what
>> happened from there.
>
> What porn?
>
>> Who sent it?
>
> Sent what?
>
>> How did the police get involved?
>
> Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They
> humored him.
>
>> How long was it on your hard drive?
>
> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
>> Do you still have it?
>
> Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something
> that never existed.
>
> Well, maybe in your little universe, you can.
>
>
Deja Vous

Ahhhh............. the story just changed again.

BTW Arny when I get home I will search for the post that
contradicts what you just said. Tsk! Tsk! Caught lying
again.

TT

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> Congratulations on taking the first step out of your mental illness.

This is astonishing. The Krooborg actually told an objective truth.

Next step for Arnii: Admit there was never a meeting with an "undercover"
porn cop.

[TT]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> Boon said:
>
>> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>>
>> Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
>> mental illness.
>
> This is astonishing. The Krooborg actually told an
> objective truth.
>
> Next step for Arnii: Admit there was never a meeting with
> an "undercover"
> porn cop.
>
>
No! No! No George! He said "Pop Corn". He met with and
uncovered pop corn. Please keep up :-)

Cheers TT

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> No time at all because there never was any porn.

Congratulations on taking the first step out of your mental
illness.

Boon

Also notice how it has subtly changed again? Previously it
was the officer said it (the porn) was hard to tell but he
believed it was of adults. Now it has changed to "No porn"
at all. Also he said he had it stored for a couple of years
and accidentally found it one day again.

Oh what a tangled web we weave etc................

So either way Arny is a proven liar!

Cheers TT

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 18, 8:49 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message

> > You are on the day of your son's funeral. Unless you
> > needed to be alone to grieve, you should have been
> > comforting them.
>
> I'm thinking about what sort of overbearing twit it takes to try to tell
> someone how to grieve. Marc, you're obviously that twit.

Think "GOIA is crazy".

> > Yes. I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object to
> > sharing bandwidth with them.
>
> Yes Marc, there's a pedophile under every bed, including yours.

Think "GOIA has apparently conceded that he is a pedophile".

> > No. It's a natural reaction to be disgusted by you.
>
> Marc, what really disgusts you are your paranoid delusions - the pedophiles
> are out to get you.

Think "GOIA was offered a chance to tell his side and refused.
Therefore (according to GOIA's own "debating trade" rules) GOIA
concedes the point.

> > Note that I'm only one of several people disgusted with
> > you in this newsgroup.
>
> How many of those so-called several people are sockpuppets?

Think "If GOIA doesn't know who someone is, they are either George,
JA, or someone named "Gindhi".

> How many are known to be delusional on completely independent grounds?

Think "There's only one for certain. What's he doing asking questions
like this?"

> > No, it was a really childish comment by you. It reeked
> > of desperation as well. You've run out of ideas.
>
> I've run out of ideas? LOL! Let me count Marc's lame IKWYABWAIs.

Think "We have a bank of CPAs trying to count GOIA's IKYABWAIs. Once
they're done, they can perhaps move on to others, but that may be
years from now."

> > Oh, Jesus, the "unexplained absence" argument again.
>
> Make that the unexplained absence facts.

Think "GOIA always sprays gibberish around when he's melting down."

> > It's quite telling that you don't understand how people
> > might have other things to do than to spend their lives
> > on Usenet.
>
> Tell that to people like the Middiot and ****R who never take any time off.

Think "GOIA has posted probably 1,000 times as much on RAO as his next
nearest 'competitor.'

> No Marc, just you.

Think "IKYABWAI?" You're keeping the CPAs busy.

> > Nope...Arny Krueger just has an empty life, and he fills
> > it with Usenet. Everyone else should, too!
>
> Sorry Marc, but when your mainlining on RAO there doesn't seem to be a time
> of day or night that you aren't here. And then you are gone, for months at a
> time.

Think "I miss you honey!"

> > Or how about your insistence that I can't hold down a
> > job?
>
> Something about you bragging about your new jobs.

Think "I've never understood why somebody would ever move to a
different job. My career opportunities have been so limited. Aren't
everybody's?"

> > It's quite telling that you can't recognize a
> > business opportunity, or a promotion or a chance to do
> > something new.
>
> In your case Marc, that happens what, about every 6 monhts?

Think "There's no such thing as a "monht".

> > No, your enemies are either fired or
> > unemployable.
>
> So Marc, who have ****R and the Middiot working for lately? How about you?

Think "Another gibberish statement."

> > Again, it just shows that Arny Krueger doesn't get a lot
> > of phone calls for employment opportunities. So he fills
> > his empty life with Usenet. Everyone else should, too!
>
> Marc, I own a business. I'm as busy as I want to be. I'm not a wage slave
> like you.

Think "I'm a broke-ass and my poor wife works three jobs to support
me."

> > This is the very definition of a paranoid/narcissistic
> > personality disorder. I'd start removing these posts
> > from the archives if I were you...they're going to get
> > you thrown into the looney bin.
>
> Only in your dreams, Marc. With all your talk about looney bins, one might
> ask why you are so obsessed with them.

Think "I'm only allowed to post to RAO. My doctor calls it "therapy".

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 7:29�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 6:49?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On Dec 18, 11:57?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>> On Dec 18, 11:45?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 18, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "George M. Middius" >
> >>>>>>>> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> messagenews:d4okk4l3j7pm95lrbn3u7d4fgq4jpbmcql@4ax .com
>
> >>>>>>>> Watch this simple question send the Middiot running
> >>>>>>>> for cover:
> >>>>>>>>> ?A Krooglish episode punctuates Turdborg's
> >>>>>>>>> pre-Xmas Kroodown
> >>>>>>>> George, what is a Kroodown?
> >>>>>>>> <no coherent or relevant answer expected>
>
> >>>>>> Notice the following attempt to distract attention
> >>>>>> from the question:
>
> >>>>>>> Do you really think he's trying to evade the answer
> >>>>>>> the same way you evaded the question about posting
> >>>>>>> on RAO on the day of your son's funeral?
>
> >>>>>> No, since the question about the funeral is asked and
> >>>>>> answered.
> >>>>> It was unacceptable to normal people.
>
> >>>> As if you're a normal person, Marc?
>
> >>> I'm a very normal person.
>
> Umm, free-lancing. IOW, habitually unemployed.

Nope. Habitually employed. I made the switch when it became steady
enough to do so.

>
> >>>>> Your family needed ?you,
>
> >>>> I was there for them, but I'm not the center of their
> >>>> world.
>
> >>> You are on the day of your son's funeral. ?Unless you
> >>> needed to be alone to grieve, you should have been
> >>> comforting them.
>
> >> I'm thinking about what sort of overbearing twit it
> >> takes to try to tell someone how to grieve. Marc, you're
> >> obviously that twit.
> > I'm not telling you how to grieve.
>
> Sure you are. One of the way I greived was to visit RAO. It was a
> friendlier, kinder place in those days. �The Middiot posse hadn't yet chased
> almost all of the music lovers away.

You still abandoned your family in their time of need to hang out with
a bunch of strangers.

>
> > �But if your idea of
> > grieving is hanging out with strangers on the Internet
> > who despise you, then it's time to ask a grief counselor
> > why you're so antisocial.
>
> Marc, so in your book, hanging out with people who have a like interest is
> being antisocial? Remember, in those days the Middiot posse hadn't yet
> chased almost all of the music lovers away. Literally 100s of people posted
> here.

You made enemies from the beginning. I'm not buying it.

>
> >>>>> ?and you retired to a room by yourself and started
> >>>>> posting to Internet strangers who despise you.
> >>>> Well Marc, if you despise me that much, don'tyou think
> >>>> that this reflects on you?
> >>> Yes. ?I am a person who hates pedophiles, and I object
> >>> to sharing bandwidth with them.
> >> Yes Marc, there's a pedophile under every bed, including
> >> yours.
> > There's no pedophile under my bed. �What a stupid thing
> > to say.
>
> Marc, you act that way. You quiver with fear and anger. You're like a little
> girl.

Quiver with fear and anger? That's your personality disorders
speaking. You need to twist and distort people into characters to fit
your fantasy construct. In reality, you quiver with fear and anger.
I remember your frightened responses when I told you I'd be in town.

>
> >> Why don't you just grow up?
> > Grown-ups like myself do not approve of pedophiles.
>
> A truism, but one that most people don't obsess over like you do.

Nope, people get very upset when they learn sex offenders are in their
midst. That's why the government makes the information so
accessible. Once again you are trying to lessen the seriousness of
these crimes, which makes you even more suspicious.

>
> > Evidently you think pedophilia is okay, since you think
> > that's it's a step above being a liar.
>
> Are you free-associating again, Marc?

Nope, stating fact. You had one of two choices...be thought of as a
pedophile or get caught in a lie. The simple fact that you thought
the former was preferable speaks volumes about your mental state.

>
> Where did I say that?

Translation from the Krooglish: "I removed those posts from the
google archives."

>
> > Ergo, you need to �grow up. �Or get thrown in jail.
>
> Marc, you're simply nuts. You live in your own little universe where the
> pedophiles are out to get you.

Since I'm not a minor, that isn't true.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 18, 8:03�pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Boon said:
>
> > > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your mental illness.
>
> This is astonishing. The Krooborg actually told an objective truth.
>
> Next step for Arnii: Admit there was never a meeting with an "undercover"
> porn cop.

He met with a local detective, though.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> mental illness.

Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.

The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.

I've been saying this for years.

Wake up!

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > mental illness.
>
> Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
>
> The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.
>
> I've been saying this for years.
>
> Wake up!

It wasn't kids, and it wasn't porn
that means it was adults fully clothed and not having sex.
Perhaps Arni's presumed KP email looked something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/onjxg

or

http://tinyurl.com/4gl3wj

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > mental illness.
>
> Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
>
> The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.
>
> I've been saying this for years.
>
> Wake up!

how can a picture 'appear to be porn', and
yet not be porn?
Anything that appears to be porn "IS" porn

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
Clyde Slick > wrote:

> On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > "Boon" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >
> > > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > > mental illness.
> >
> > Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
> >
> > The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.
> >
> > I've been saying this for years.
> >
> > Wake up!
>
> how can a picture 'appear to be porn', and
> yet not be porn?
> Anything that appears to be porn "IS" porn

Barney Miller's Wojohowicz said something about the Sears catalog: find
anything in there and someone wants to sleep with it.

Can't find the exact quote.

Stephen

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 18, 9:52*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> > How long was it [pornography] on your hard *drive?
>
> No time at all because there never was any porn.

An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger. As you accused many
people, including myself, of emailing you pornography at the time,
you owe me an apology.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
John Atkinson > wrote:

> On Dec 18, 9:52*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > "TT" > wrote in message
> >
> > > How long was it [pornography] on your hard *drive?
> >
> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger. As you accused many
> people, including myself, of emailing you pornography at the time,
> you owe me an apology.
>
> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

No kidding.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >
> > An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger. As you accused many
> > people, including myself, of emailing you pornography at the time,
> > you owe me an apology.

> No kidding.

In the alternative, Arnii, you could just admit you're crazy as a bedbug
and plead not guilty by reason of mental defect.

[Boon]

On Dec 19, 4:49�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > mental illness.
>
> Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
>
> The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.

I want to see you say that in a court of law.

>
> I've been saying this for years.
>
> Wake up!

Even if there was no porn, your descriptions of it were deeply
offensive.

I've been saying this for years.

Wake up and realize that we want you to leave this group!

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 19, 5:49�am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > > mental illness.
>
> > Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
>
> > The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.
>
> > I've been saying this for years.
>
> > Wake up!
>
> how can a picture 'appear to be porn', and
> yet not be porn?
> Anything that appears to be porn "IS" porn-

Part of the definition of porn has to do with perceptions.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 19, 8:01�am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> On Dec 18, 9:52�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "TT" > wrote in message
>
> > > How long was it [pornography] on your hard �drive?
>
> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger. As you accused many
> people, including myself, of emailing you pornography at the time,
> you owe me an apology.
>
> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

You and almost every one else. He's accused dozens of people. But he
should start with you, because he started with you.

Boon

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 18, 8:52*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Dec 18, 7:49 am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
>
> >>> This whole kiddie-porn thing has been going around and
> >>> around.
>
> >> That's because some really cruel and stupid people want
> >> to see it, and the
> >> tragic events leading up to it, re-lived as many times as
> >> possible. It's
> >> what they have been doing for the last 10 years.
>
> > I did not ask anything about any "events leading up to
> > it". GOIA. Just *how you came to possess porn and what happened from
> > there.
>
> What porn?
>
> > Who sent it?
>
> Sent what?
>
> > How did the police get involved?
>
> Marc called them. He was having paranoid delusions. They humored him.
>
> > How long was it on your hard *drive?
>
> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > Do you still have it?
>
> Try to follow the logic Terry, you can't store something that never existed.
>
> Well, maybe in your little universe, you can.

Well, other than the fact that you responded to my questions, GOIA, it
appears that you've hit a "home run".

Now apologize to Terry and we can move on.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 10:01*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> On Dec 18, 9:52*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "TT" > wrote in message
>
> > > How long was it [pornography] on your hard *drive?
>
> > No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger. As you accused many
> people, including myself, of emailing you pornography at the time,
> you owe me an apology.

GOIA also recently said somebody that had a foul mouth. I just found
this:

"Yet another lying RAO asshole.. Instead of David Weil telling this
lie, it's John Atkinson."

Message-ID: >

It seems that he owes a couple of more apologies. :-(

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 19, 3:25*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> It seems that [Arny Krueger] owes a couple of more apologies. :-(

True to form, GIOA has simply disappeared, presumably
then to pop up in all his deceitful glory when he thinks
everyone has forgotten his mendacity. :-(

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "TT" > wrote in message
>>
>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>>
>> No time at all because there never was any porn.

> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger.

No, frightfully old news.

> As you accused
> many people, including myself, of emailing you
> pornography at the time,

John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or did I suggest that the
specific email could have come from a number of different people including
you?

Or, John you tell the difference between those two things?

[Boon]

On Dec 19, 1:58�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> >>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> > An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger.
>
> No, frightfully old news.
>
> > As you accused
> > many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > pornography at the time,
>
> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or did I suggest that the
> specific email could have come from a number of different people including
> you?
>
> Or, John �you tell the difference between those two things?

If you're waiting for Mr. Arkinson to reply, you're in for a long
wait.

Boon

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 3:58*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> >>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> > An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger.
>
> No, frightfully old news.
>
> > As you accused
> > many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > pornography at the time,
>
> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or did I suggest that the
> specific email could have come from a number of different people including
> you?
>
> Or, John *you tell the difference between those two things?

"The email could have come from anybody, including JA."

Nope. No difference. Sorry, GOIA!

Oh, and have a nice day!

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 19, 4:58*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
> > On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> >>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
> >>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >
> > An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
> > many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > pornography at the time,
>
> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or did I suggest that the
> specific email could have come from a number of different people including
> you?

You specifically suggested that the email could have come from me,
Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to suspect me of doing so.
And you also gave me your word that you would not change thread
titles to demean or insult me, which you have now done several
times and again with the posting of yours to which I am responding.

Far from my "obsessing" about the tragic death of your son and
the subsequent events, all I have done was to email you my
personal condolences at the time, then post the same to r.a.o.
Why you should regard my doing so as justification for your
slanderous accusation...sorry, "suggestion," simply fuels the
speculation that you are a sick individual.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Dec, 09:42, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > > > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > > > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > > > mental illness.
>
> > > Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
>
> > > The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way..
>
> > > I've been saying this for years.
>
> > > Wake up!
>
> > how can a picture 'appear to be porn', and
> > yet not be porn?
> > Anything that appears to be porn "IS" porn
>
> Barney Miller's Wojohowicz said something about the Sears catalog: find
> anything in there and someone wants to sleep with it.
>
> Can't find the exact quote.
>
> Stephen-

I was watching reality tv last night.
they caught a dude on video
having sex with a neighbor's round picnic table, using
the umbrella hole as the orifice of choice.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Dec, 16:58, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> >>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>
> >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> > An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger.
>
> No, frightfully old news.
>
> > As you accused
> > many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > pornography at the time,
>
> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or did I suggest that the
> specific email could have come from a number of different people including
> you?
>
> Or, John *you tell the difference between those two things?

LOL!!

ther was no porn so he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN
one who sent you porn that was never sent to you
by anyone.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 7:11*pm, ScottW > wrote:

> Keep on swirling while I drop the seat and
> eat.

You've been hanging around GOIA too much.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:


> Sounds just like Jenn's hate suggestions.

There is but one person who believes that I suggested anything, and I'm
presently responding to him.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 7:40*pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 5:24*pm, Jenn > wrote:
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > *Sounds just like Jenn's hate suggestions.
>
> > There is but one person who believes that I suggested anything,
>
> another suggestion....tsk, tsk.

Ask for a new dictionary for Christmas, 2pid. Your is hopelessly
broken.

If your family "loves" you they'll get you one. LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Dec 19, 3:25 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > wrote:
>> It seems that [Arny Krueger] owes a couple of more
>> apologies. :-(
>
> True to form, GIOA has simply disappeared, presumably
> then to pop up in all his deceitful glory when he thinks
> everyone has forgotten his mendacity. :-(

It appears that Marc isn't the only person around here with very vivid
delusions, there's also John.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 7:56*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 3:25 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > wrote:
> >> It seems that [Arny Krueger] owes a couple of more
> >> apologies. :-(
>
> > True to form, GIOA has simply disappeared, presumably
> > then to pop up in all his deceitful glory when he thinks
> > everyone has forgotten his mendacity. :-(
>
> It appears that Marc isn't the only person around here with very vivid
> delusions, there's also John.

So is JA a ****ing asshole IYO, GOIA?

Not that you'd ever have a foul mouth. That wouldn't be Christian. LOL!

[Arny Krueger]

"John Atkinson" > wrote in
message

> On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>
>>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "TT" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?

>>>> No time at all because there never was any porn.

>>> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
>>> many people, including myself, of emailing you
>>> pornography at the time,

>> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or
>> did I suggest that the specific email could have come
>> from a number of different people including you?

> You specifically suggested that the email could have come
> from me, Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to
> suspect me of doing so.

So John, now you are recanting your accusation?

> And you also gave me your word
> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> insult me, which you have now done several times and
> again with the posting of yours to which I am responding.

Nothing is forever, John.

> Far from my "obsessing" about the tragic death of your
> son and
> the subsequent events, all I have done was to email you my
> personal condolences at the time, then post the same to
> r.a.o.

So did George Middius.

> Why you should regard my doing so as justification for
> your slanderous accusation...sorry, "suggestion," simply
> fuels the speculation that you are a sick individual.

John, you seem to have this delusion that calling me a "sick individual"
would have some effect on me, given your numerous earlier libels. Do I need
to repost some of those posts to remind you of your numerous past libels of
me?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> message
>
> > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >>
> >> om
> >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "TT" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>
> >>>> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> >>> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
> >>> many people, including myself, of emailing you
> >>> pornography at the time,
>
> >> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or
> >> did I suggest that the specific email could have come
> >> from a number of different people including you?
>
> > You specifically suggested that the email could have come
> > from me, Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to
> > suspect me of doing so.
>
> So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > And you also gave me your word
> > that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> > insult me, which you have now done several times and
> > again with the posting of yours to which I am responding.
>
> Nothing is forever, John.

Including Arny's honor, obviously.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>> message
>>

>>> And you also gave me your word
>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
>>> responding.
>>
>> Nothing is forever, John.

> Including Arny's honor, obviously.

So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest of the Middiot Posse,
while whining about honor.

[Boon]

On Dec 19, 5:56�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 3:25 pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> > > wrote:
> >> It seems that [Arny Krueger] owes a couple of more
> >> apologies. :-(
>
> > True to form, GIOA has simply disappeared, presumably
> > then to pop up in all his deceitful glory when he thinks
> > everyone has forgotten his mendacity. :-(
>
> It appears that Marc isn't the only person around here with very vivid
> delusions, there's also John.

Paranoid personality disorder.

Boon

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >> message
> >>
>
> >>> And you also gave me your word
> >>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> >>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
> >>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
> >>> responding.
> >>
> >> Nothing is forever, John.
>
> > Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>
> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest of the Middiot Posse,
> while whining about honor.

I'm not whining about anything, Arny. John pointed out that you gave
your word, and you respond with "nothing is forever". The obvious
conclusion is that your "word" is worthless. Enjoy your reputation.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>>>
>>
>>>>> And you also gave me your word
>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
>>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
>>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
>>>>> responding.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>>
>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>>
>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
>> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.

> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.

Sure you are Jenn.

You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you joined voluntarily,
complaining about the smell.

> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you respond with "nothing
> is
> forever".

Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances of that agreement?


> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is worthless.

The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to further the purposes of
the Middiot Posse, you're pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying
to bite back at me because your past attempts to do so have generally blown
up in your face.

> Enjoy your reputation.

Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far better than merely play
patty-cake with the Middiot Posse like you do, Jenn.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>> And you also gave me your word
> >>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> >>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
> >>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
> >>>>> responding.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nothing is forever, John.
> >>
> >>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
> >>
> >> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
> >> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
>
> > I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
>
> Sure you are Jenn.

No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.

>
> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you joined voluntarily,
> complaining about the smell.

I simply pointed out what you said.

>
> > John pointed out that you gave your word, and you respond with "nothing
> > is
> > forever".
>
> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances of that agreement?

Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what happened. You
didn't disagree with John's account about you giving your word,

>
>
> > The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is worthless.
>
> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to further the purposes of
> the Middiot Posse, you're pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying
> to bite back at me because your past attempts to do so have generally blown
> up in your face.
>
> > Enjoy your reputation.
>
> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far better than merely play
> patty-cake with the Middiot Posse like you do, Jenn.

Your word, by your own account, is worthless.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 19, 5:24*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > *Sounds just like Jenn's hate suggestions.
> >
> > There is but one person who believes that I suggested anything,
>
> another suggestion....tsk, tsk.

What did I suggest?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word
>>>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
>>>>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
>>>>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
>>>>>>> responding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.

Jenn's rush to judgement:

>>>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.

There is Jenn's final judgement.

>>>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
>>>> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
>>
>>> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
>>
>> Sure you are Jenn.
>
> No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.

No you're not Jenn.

You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
so-called agreement.

>> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you
>> joined voluntarily, complaining about the smell.
>
> I simply pointed out what you said.

You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
so-called agreement.

>>> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you
>>> respond with "nothing is
>>> forever".
>>
>> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances
>> of that agreement?

> Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what
> happened.

There have been no words from me about the so-called agreement.

Therefore Jenn, you reached your final judgement based on basically nothing.

> You didn't disagree with John's account about
> you giving your word,

So what?

You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
so-called agreement.

>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is
>>> worthless.
>>
>> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to
>> further the purposes of the Middiot Posse, you're
>> pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying to bite
>> back at me because your past attempts to do so have
>> generally blown up in your face.
>>
>>> Enjoy your reputation.
>>
>> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far
>> better than merely play patty-cake with the Middiot
>> Posse like you do, Jenn.

> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.

Your word is based on nothing, Jenn. I don't know what you could do to make
it more worthless.

[TT]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>> In article
>> >, "Arny
>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> >, "Arny
>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word
>>>>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
>>>>>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
>>>>>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
>>>>>>>> responding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>
> Jenn's rush to judgement:
>
>>>>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>
> There is Jenn's final judgement.
>
>>>>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
>>>>> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
>>>
>>>> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
>>>
>>> Sure you are Jenn.
>>
>> No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.
>
> No you're not Jenn.
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.
>
>>> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you
>>> joined voluntarily, complaining about the smell.
>>
>> I simply pointed out what you said.
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.
>
>>>> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you
>>>> respond with "nothing is
>>>> forever".
>>>
>>> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances
>>> of that agreement?
>
>> Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what
>> happened.
>
> There have been no words from me about the so-called agreement.
>
> Therefore Jenn, you reached your final judgement based on basically
> nothing.
>
>> You didn't disagree with John's account about
>> you giving your word,
>
> So what?
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.
>
>>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is
>>>> worthless.
>>>
>>> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to
>>> further the purposes of the Middiot Posse, you're
>>> pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying to bite
>>> back at me because your past attempts to do so have
>>> generally blown up in your face.
>>>
>>>> Enjoy your reputation.
>>>
>>> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far
>>> better than merely play patty-cake with the Middiot
>>> Posse like you do, Jenn.
>
>> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.
>
> Your word is based on nothing, Jenn. I don't know what you could do to
> make it more worthless.
Good grief man! Do you actually read what you write or spend anytime
actually trying to understand what someone else has said?

Jenn's only mistake here is to presume you actually have some intelligence
and to feel sorry for your pathetic life!

TT

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >>>>>> message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> And you also gave me your word
> >>>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> >>>>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
> >>>>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
> >>>>>>> responding.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>
> Jenn's rush to judgement:
>
> >>>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>
> There is Jenn's final judgement.
>
> >>>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
> >>>> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
> >>
> >>> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
> >>
> >> Sure you are Jenn.
> >
> > No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.
>
> No you're not Jenn.
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.
>
> >> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you
> >> joined voluntarily, complaining about the smell.
> >
> > I simply pointed out what you said.
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.
>
> >>> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you
> >>> respond with "nothing is
> >>> forever".
> >>
> >> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances
> >> of that agreement?
>
> > Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what
> > happened.
>
> There have been no words from me about the so-called agreement.
>
> Therefore Jenn, you reached your final judgement based on basically nothing.
>
> > You didn't disagree with John's account about
> > you giving your word,
>
> So what?
>
> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege at all of the
> so-called agreement.

Did you disagree with what John wrote concerning you giving your word to
him? No evidence of that here.

>
> >>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is
> >>> worthless.
> >>
> >> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to
> >> further the purposes of the Middiot Posse, you're
> >> pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying to bite
> >> back at me because your past attempts to do so have
> >> generally blown up in your face.
> >>
> >>> Enjoy your reputation.
> >>
> >> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far
> >> better than merely play patty-cake with the Middiot
> >> Posse like you do, Jenn.
>
> > Your word, by your own account, is worthless.
>
> Your word is based on nothing, Jenn. I don't know what you could do to make
> it more worthless.

I'm not known to promise something and then break my word. You are.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 8:32*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far better than merely play
> patty-cake with the Middiot Posse like you do, Jenn.

It's kind of funny, in a sad, train-wreck kind of way, GOIA. You've
tried to gain some traction for this imaginary "posse" but the only
one who buys it is you.

So who is your "reputation" with exactly, GOIA? Which of the myriad
voices in your head applauds you?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Hoo-boy. The pre-xmas Kroodown is drawing energy from somewhere.

I tightened this up a bit.

> >>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word that you would not change thread
> >>>>>>>> titles to demean or insult me, which you have now done several times
> >>>>>>>> and again with the posting of yours to which I am responding.

> >>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.

> >>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is worthless.

> >> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.

> > Your word is based on nothing, Jenn.

> Jenn's only mistake here is to presume you actually have some intelligence
> and to feel sorry for your pathetic life!

I suspect Jenn is indulging Mr. ****'s insatiable need for punishment in
the hope that the Beast will implode.

[Clyde Slick]

On 19 Dec, 21:32, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >>>> message
>
>
> >>>>> And you also gave me your word
> >>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean or
> >>>>> insult me, which you have now done several times and
> >>>>> again with the posting of yours to which I am
> >>>>> responding.
>
> >>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>
> >>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>
> >> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the rest
> >> of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
> > I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
>
> Sure you are Jenn.
>
> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you joined voluntarily,
> complaining about the smell.
>
> > *John pointed out that you gave your word, and you respond with "nothing
> > is
> > forever".
>
> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances of that agreement?
>
> > *The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is worthless.
>
> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to further the purposes of
> the Middiot Posse, you're pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying
> to bite back at me because your past attempts to do so have generally blown
> up in your face.
>
> > * Enjoy your reputation.
>
> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far better than merely play
> patty-cake with the Middiot Posse like you do, Jenn.-

as in the Bob Hope version, where Jenn and George
distract you before they cold cock you with a punch to the jaw.

[TT]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Hoo-boy. The pre-xmas Kroodown is drawing energy from somewhere.

Borg technology? A mini snot filled black hole?

>
> I tightened this up a bit.
>
>> >>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word that you would not change thread
>> >>>>>>>> titles to demean or insult me, which you have now done several
>> >>>>>>>> times
>> >>>>>>>> and again with the posting of yours to which I am responding.
>
>> >>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>
>> >>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is worthless.
>
>> >> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.
>
>> > Your word is based on nothing, Jenn.
>
>> Jenn's only mistake here is to presume you actually have some
>> intelligence
>> and to feel sorry for your pathetic life!
>
> I suspect Jenn is indulging Mr. ****'s insatiable need for punishment in
> the hope that the Beast will implode.
>
IMHO it is not too far off ;-)

Cheers TT

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
Clyde Slick > wrote:

> On 19 Dec, 09:42, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *Clyde Slick > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 19 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > "Boon" > wrote in message
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > On Dec 18, 6:52?pm, "Arny Krueger" >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > >> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >
> > > > > Congratulations on taking the first step out of your
> > > > > mental illness.
> >
> > > > Obviously, you are still clueless about the whole story, Marc.
> >
> > > > The "Dead nate" email was never porn, it just appeared to be that way.
> >
> > > > I've been saying this for years.
> >
> > > > Wake up!
> >
> > > how can a picture 'appear to be porn', and
> > > yet not be porn?
> > > Anything that appears to be porn "IS" porn
> >
> > Barney Miller's Wojohowicz said something about the Sears catalog: find
> > anything in there and someone wants to sleep with it.
> >
> > Can't find the exact quote.
> >
> > Stephen-
>
> I was watching reality tv last night.
> they caught a dude on video
> having sex with a neighbor's round picnic table, using
> the umbrella hole as the orifice of choice.

That's actually old news, but current enough for late night reality tv.

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"TT" > wrote in message


> Good grief man! Do you actually read what you write or
> spend anytime actually trying to understand what someone
> else has said?

Given the many abjectly idiotic things you've posted here Terry, you should
ask yourself the same question. You know that I'm not the only person who
has pointed this out to you.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote
>>>>>>>> in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word
>>>>>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean
>>>>>>>>> or insult me, which you have now done several
>>>>>>>>> times and again with the posting of yours to
>>>>>>>>> which I am responding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
>>
>> Jenn's rush to judgement:
>>
>>>>>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
>>
>> There is Jenn's final judgement.
>>
>>>>>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the
>>>>>> rest of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
>>>>
>>>> Sure you are Jenn.
>>>
>>> No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.
>>
>> No you're not Jenn.
>>
>> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
>> at all of the so-called agreement.
>>
>>>> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you
>>>> joined voluntarily, complaining about the smell.
>>>
>>> I simply pointed out what you said.
>>
>> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
>> at all of the so-called agreement.
>>
>>>>> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you
>>>>> respond with "nothing is
>>>>> forever".
>>>>
>>>> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances
>>>> of that agreement?
>>
>>> Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what
>>> happened.
>>
>> There have been no words from me about the so-called
>> agreement.
>>
>> Therefore Jenn, you reached your final judgement based
>> on basically nothing.
>>
>>> You didn't disagree with John's account about
>>> you giving your word,
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
>> at all of the so-called agreement.

> Did you disagree with what John wrote concerning you
> giving your word to him? No evidence of that here.

Non-responsive, does not merit a reply.

>>>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is
>>>>> worthless.
>>>>
>>>> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to
>>>> further the purposes of the Middiot Posse, you're
>>>> pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying to
>>>> bite back at me because your past attempts to do so
>>>> have generally blown up in your face.
>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy your reputation.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far
>>>> better than merely play patty-cake with the Middiot
>>>> Posse like you do, Jenn.
>>
>>> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.
>>
>> Your word is based on nothing, Jenn. I don't know what
>> you could do to make it more worthless.
>
> I'm not known to promise something and then break my
> word.

Only in your own mind, Jenn.

> You are.

I'll let you know when I have any remorse over losing your respect, Jenn.
Since I never had your respect...

[TT]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
>
>> Good grief man! Do you actually read what you write or
>> spend anytime actually trying to understand what someone
>> else has said?
>
> Given the many abjectly idiotic things you've posted here Terry, you
> should ask yourself the same question. You know that I'm not the only
> person who has pointed this out to you.
Just re-read what you have just written! Have a think about it for a moment
as it actually says more about you than me.

Let's look at it for a moment. You say that I say some idiotic things and
yet, out of the whole group, you are the only one that can see it.

Mmmmm.................. Either the whole group is blinded to my intrinsic
nature or you are a delusional, lying POS.

BTW It just made the news here Bush will bail out GM and Chrysler until
April.

TT

[Arny Krueger]

"TT" > wrote in message
. au
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "TT" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Good grief man! Do you actually read what you write or
>>> spend anytime actually trying to understand what someone
>>> else has said?
>>
>> Given the many abjectly idiotic things you've posted here Terry, you
>> should ask yourself the same question.
>> You know that I'm not the only person who has pointed
>> this out to you.

> Just re-read what you have just written!

So what?

> Have a think about it for a moment as it actually says more about you
> than me.

Terry, I'm not the person who piles onto every dog pile like you do.

> Let's look at it for a moment. You say that I say some
> idiotic things and yet, out of the whole group, you are
> the only one that can see it.

Terry, most people just let your idiocy pass. They expect no better from
you.

> Mmmmm.................. Either the whole group is blinded
> to my intrinsic nature or you are a delusional, lying POS.

Terry you are sadly confused if you think that RAO is representative of the
real world. Ditto for aus.hi-fi. They are both pathological, degenerate
cases.

> BTW It just made the news here Bush will bail out GM and
> Chrysler until April.

And your point is?

[Clyde Slick]

On 20 Dec, 07:16, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> > BTW It just made the news here Bush will bail out GM and
> > Chrysler until April.
>
> And your point is?

Your pension fund is still paying for your meds
you better use them while you got them

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
>
> > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> >>
> >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>> "TT" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
> >>>>
> >>>> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >>>
> >>> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
> >>> many people, including myself, of emailing you
> >>> pornography at the time,
> >>
> >> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or
> >> did I suggest that the specific email could have come
> >> from a number of different people including you?
> >
> > You specifically suggested that the email could have come
> > from me, Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to
> > suspect me of doing so.
>
> So John, now you are recanting your accusation?

Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent, given
that both publicly associated my name with a subject
that is universally condemned. You had no possible
reason to suggest that I had sent you an offensive email,
Mr. Krueger, Yet you did do so. And now you confess
that there _wasn't_ a pornographic email! That in effect
you fabricated the entire matter out of thin air!

> > And you also gave me your word that you would not
> > change thread titles to demean or insult me, which
> > you have now done several times and again with the
> > posting of yours to which I am responding.
>
> Nothing is forever, John.

Apparently not when it comes to your word, Mr. Krueger.
But thank you at least for the admission that you take
your promises so lightly, Mr. Krueger. How does that
square with the fact you are a self-confessed "Promise
Keeper"?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > >
> > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds with her futile
> defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.

I am sorry, ScottW. I have nio idea what you are trying to
say.

> Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> the entire evening plotting against Arny?

Plot against Arny? We spent almost all the time talking
about music, composers, conducting, guitarists, my
recordings, recordings in general, audio, Stereophile, and
how Jenn ended up teaching at a school that has an
excellent recording facility.

The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

John Atkinson said:

> The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)

Others have asked her the same question. Was her answer to you any more
sensible than what she tell us on RAO?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 8:59*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > >
> > > > > ps.com
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> groups.com
> > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
> >
> > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
> >
> > > Ouch....poor Jenn. *John is totally at odds *with her futile
> > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
> >
> > I am sorry, ScottW. I have nio idea what you are trying to
> > say.
>
> LoL. It's been said. The source of your confusion
> lies within.
>
> >
> > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
> >
> > Plot against Arny? We spent almost all the time talking
> > about music, composers, conducting, guitarists, my
> > recordings, recordings in general, audio, Stereophile, and
> > how Jenn ended up teaching at a school that has an
> > excellent recording facility.
> >
> > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.
>
> ScottW

And you participate in, indeed encourage, the slimefest for what reason?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> John Atkinson said:
>
> > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> Others have asked her the same question. Was her answer to you any more
> sensible than what she tell us on RAO?

Probably not.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 5:08*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > >
> > > om
> > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > >>
> > > >> ps.com
> > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > >>>> "TT" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > >>>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
> >
> > > >>>> No time at all because there never was any porn.
> >
> > > >>> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
> > > >>> many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > > >>> pornography at the time,
> >
> > > >> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or
> > > >> did I suggest that the specific email could have come
> > > >> from a number of different people including you?
> >
> > > > You specifically suggested that the email could have come
> > > > from me, Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to
> > > > suspect me of doing so.
> >
> > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
> >
> > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds
> with her futile defense of making suggestions/accusations
> of hate.

I made neither suggestions nor accusations. I said that I didn't know.

>
> Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> the entire evening plotting against Arny?

My God, Scott, you're spot on! It's as if you were hiding under the
table listening to us.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds
> with her futile defense of making suggestions/accusations
> of hate.
>
> Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> the entire evening plotting against Arny?

How nice that you can snipe at both of them at once.

Stephen

[John Atkinson[_2_]]

On Dec 20, 12:15 pm, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 8:59 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
> > > >
> > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
> > >
> > > Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds with her futile
> > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
> >
> > I am sorry, ScottW. I have [no] idea what you are trying to
> > say.
>
> LoL. It's been said. The source of your confusion
> lies within.

What's been said? Lies within what? Seriously, ScottW, I don't
know what you are talking about.

> > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
> >
> > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.

Again, ScottW, you talk in riddles. From what I can see,
Jenn has been unfailingly polite in her communications
with Arny Krueger, as have I (with one notable
exception several years ago, as I am sure Mr. Krueger
will point out). Yes, I guess others' postings could be
characterized as "the usual slimefest debauchery,"
but what that has to do with Jenn or me is beyond
my imagining.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 9:29*am, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > Ouch....poor Jenn. * John is totally at odds
> > > *with her futile defense of making suggestions/accusations
> > > of hate.
> >
> > > * Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
> >
> > How nice that you can snipe at both of them at once.
>
> Don't be jealous.

Of you? I'm not the one indulging in what he says he hates.

Stephen

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
MiNe 109 > wrote:

> In article
> >,
> ScottW > wrote:
>
> > Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds
> > with her futile defense of making suggestions/accusations
> > of hate.
> >
> > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
>
> How nice that you can snipe at both of them at once.
>
> Stephen

Efficiency is a virtue.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 20, 9:19*am, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, 8:59*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > grou
> > > > > > > ps.com
> > > > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> ogle
> > > > > > > >> groups.com
> > > > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
> >
> > > > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
> >
> > > > > Ouch....poor Jenn. *John is totally at odds *with her futile
> > > > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
> >
> > > > I am sorry, ScottW. I have nio idea what you are trying to
> > > > say.
> >
> > > * *LoL. *It's been said. *The source of your confusion
> > > lies within.
> >
> > > > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
> >
> > > > Plot against Arny? We spent almost all the time talking
> > > > about music, composers, conducting, guitarists, my
> > > > recordings, recordings in general, audio, Stereophile, and
> > > > how Jenn ended up teaching at a school that has an
> > > > excellent recording facility.
> >
> > > > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > > > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > > > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
> >
> > > * Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> > > by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.
> >
> > > ScottW
> >
> > And you participate in, indeed encourage, the slimefest for what reason?
>
> To show you the errors of your ways. I can't rescue you from the
> swamp without
> getting in the slime. Wait..wait...she's going down again.
>
> ScottW

The error of my ways? lol I ask questions and point out
inconsistencies. Oh, but I forgot... you, like Arny, believe that if I
don't constantly blast those who bother YOU, I am in support of them.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>> >,
> >>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "John Atkinson" > wrote
> >>>>>>>> in message
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And you also gave me your word
> >>>>>>>>> that you would not change thread titles to demean
> >>>>>>>>> or insult me, which you have now done several
> >>>>>>>>> times and again with the posting of yours to
> >>>>>>>>> which I am responding.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nothing is forever, John.
> >>
> >> Jenn's rush to judgement:
> >>
> >>>>>>> Including Arny's honor, obviously.
> >>
> >> There is Jenn's final judgement.
> >>
> >>>>>> So there's Jenn, trying to pile on along with the
> >>>>>> rest of the Middiot Posse, while whining about honor.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not whining about anything, Arny.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure you are Jenn.
> >>>
> >>> No, I'm not. I taking your words at face value.
> >>
> >> No you're not Jenn.
> >>
> >> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
> >> at all of the so-called agreement.
> >>
> >>>> You are standing in the middle of a crapstorm that you
> >>>> joined voluntarily, complaining about the smell.
> >>>
> >>> I simply pointed out what you said.
> >>
> >> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
> >> at all of the so-called agreement.
> >>
> >>>>> John pointed out that you gave your word, and you
> >>>>> respond with "nothing is
> >>>>> forever".
> >>>>
> >>>> Jenn, what do you know about the time and circumstances
> >>>> of that agreement?
> >>
> >>> Very little. Therefore I'm taking your word for what
> >>> happened.
> >>
> >> There have been no words from me about the so-called
> >> agreement.
> >>
> >> Therefore Jenn, you reached your final judgement based
> >> on basically nothing.
> >>
> >>> You didn't disagree with John's account about
> >>> you giving your word,
> >>
> >> So what?
> >>
> >> You rendered your final judgement without any knowlege
> >> at all of the so-called agreement.
>
> > Did you disagree with what John wrote concerning you
> > giving your word to him? No evidence of that here.
>
> Non-responsive, does not merit a reply.

I know what I see posted here from you and John. John said that you
gave your word to him. You haven't disagreed. Do you indeed disagree?

>
> >>>>> The obvious conclusion is that your "word" is
> >>>>> worthless.
> >>>>
> >>>> The obvious conclusion Jenn is that you're trying to
> >>>> further the purposes of the Middiot Posse, you're
> >>>> pandering to John's self-pity, and you're trying to
> >>>> bite back at me because your past attempts to do so
> >>>> have generally blown up in your face.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Enjoy your reputation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed, I have a reputation of being able to do far
> >>>> better than merely play patty-cake with the Middiot
> >>>> Posse like you do, Jenn.
> >>
> >>> Your word, by your own account, is worthless.
> >>
> >> Your word is based on nothing, Jenn. I don't know what
> >> you could do to make it more worthless.
> >
> > I'm not known to promise something and then break my
> > word.
>
> Only in your own mind, Jenn.

Where have I broken my word, Arny?

>
> > You are.
>
> I'll let you know when I have any remorse over losing your respect, Jenn.
> Since I never had your respect...

You had my respect when I first arrived here. You quickly lost it.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
ScottW > wrote:

> On Dec 19, 6:51*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Dec 19, 5:24*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> >
> > > > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > > > *Sounds just like Jenn's hate suggestions.
> >
> > > > There is but one person who believes that I suggested anything,
> >
> > > another suggestion....tsk, tsk.
> >
> > What did I suggest?
>
> That you could know the beliefs of all.
> A silly suggestion, but a suggestion just the same.
>
> ScottW

Oh, so that's the standard. OK, quick poll: Anyone reading this other
than Scott, please let us know if I suggested anything about any hatred
that Scott holds. Thanks.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > I'm not known to promise something and then break my word.

> > Only in your own mind, Jenn.

> Where have I broken my word, Arny?

Arnii has convinced himself that you "promised" to defend him tirelessly
against his "enemies". (That means issuing a constant stream of reprimands
to those of us who call a turd a turd.)

Lately, Mr. **** has been klaiming that I am the Chief Anti-Kroo
Konspirator. He does this by chanting the "posse" and "dupes" refrains.
Earlier in his "Usenet career", Turdborg attributed his imagined ringleader
role to John, and before that he blamed Ed. At some point in the future,
you may ascend to the role of Queen Krooger Tormentor, but at the moment,
Arnii still expects you to protect him from the likes of me and Shhhh.

Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
George M. Middius > wrote:

> Jenn said:
>
> > > > I'm not known to promise something and then break my word.
>
> > > Only in your own mind, Jenn.
>
> > Where have I broken my word, Arny?
>
> Arnii has convinced himself that you "promised" to defend him tirelessly
> against his "enemies". (That means issuing a constant stream of reprimands
> to those of us who call a turd a turd.)
>
> Lately, Mr. **** has been klaiming that I am the Chief Anti-Kroo
> Konspirator. He does this by chanting the "posse" and "dupes" refrains.
> Earlier in his "Usenet career", Turdborg attributed his imagined ringleader
> role to John, and before that he blamed Ed. At some point in the future,
> you may ascend to the role of Queen Krooger Tormentor, but at the moment,
> Arnii still expects you to protect him from the likes of me and Shhhh.
>
> Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)

Well, I've about "had it". Wasting time defending myself from two
people against whom my only "sins" are holding different political and
sound views, as well as holding up a mirror to them, is just that: a
waste of time.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 12:10*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *ScottW > wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 6:51*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
>
> > > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > > On Dec 19, 5:24*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >,
>
> > > > > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > > > > *Sounds just like Jenn's hate suggestions.
>
> > > > > There is but one person who believes that I suggested anything,
>
> > > > another suggestion....tsk, tsk.
>
> > > What did I suggest?
>
> > *That you could know the beliefs of all.
> > A silly suggestion, but a suggestion just the same.
>
> > ScottW
>
> Oh, so that's the standard. *OK, quick poll: *Anyone reading this other
> than Scott, please let us know if I suggested anything about any hatred
> that Scott holds. *Thanks.

An even quicker poll: is there anybody here who thinks 2pid knows
anything.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 4:15*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "TT" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Good grief man! *Do you actually read what you write or
> > spend anytime actually trying to understand what someone
> > else has said?
>
> Given the many abjectly idiotic things you've posted *here Terry, you should
> ask yourself the same question. You know that I'm not the only person who
> has pointed this out to you.

IKYABWAI

GOIA, the CPAs will *never* be able to verify your IKYABWAI and count
anybody elses IKYABWAIs at this rate.

Please help us out by trying to hold them to less than 10/day. Thanks!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 1:42*pm, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *George M. Middius > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > I'm not known to promise something and then break my word.
>
> > > > Only in your own mind, Jenn.
>
> > > Where have I broken my word, Arny?
>
> > Arnii has convinced himself that you "promised" to defend him tirelessly
> > against his "enemies". (That means issuing a constant stream of reprimands
> > to those of us who call a turd a turd.)
>
> > Lately, Mr. **** has been klaiming that I am the Chief Anti-Kroo
> > Konspirator. He does this by chanting the "posse" and "dupes" refrains.
> > Earlier in his "Usenet career", Turdborg attributed his imagined ringleader
> > role to John, and before that he blamed Ed. At some point in the future,
> > you may ascend to the role of Queen Krooger Tormentor, but at the moment,
> > Arnii still expects you to protect him from the likes of me and Shhhh.
>
> > Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)
>
> Well, I've about "had it". *Wasting time defending myself from two
> people against whom my only "sins" are holding different political and
> sound views, as well as holding up a mirror to them, is just that: a
> waste of time.

Your "posse" membership packet has been sent. Please look it over and
address any questions you might have to "Ringleader George" C/O The
Posse.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 10:37*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 5:08*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > >
> > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > >>>> "TT" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > >>>>> How long was it [pornography] on your hard drive?
>
> > > >>>> No time at all because there never was any porn.
>
> > > >>> An extraordinary admission, Mr. Krueger, as you accused
> > > >>> many people, including myself, of emailing you
> > > >>> pornography at the time,
>
> > > >> John, did I accuse you of emailing me pornography, or
> > > >> did I suggest that the specific email could have come
> > > >> from a number of different people including you?
>
> > > > You specifically suggested that the email could have come
> > > > from me, Mr. Krueger, without having any reason to
> > > > suspect me of doing so.
>
> > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> *Ouch....poor Jenn. * John is totally at odds
> *with her futile defense of making suggestions/accusations
> of hate.
>
> * Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> the entire evening plotting against Arny?

Go away, 2pid. You're not bright enough to join this conversation.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 11:31*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 9:19*am, Jenn > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >,
>
> > *ScottW > wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, 8:59*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ps.com
> > > > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> groups.com
> > > > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > > > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> > > > > Ouch....poor Jenn. *John is totally at odds *with her futile
> > > > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
>
> > > > I am sorry, ScottW. I have nio idea what you are trying to
> > > > say.
>
> > > * *LoL. *It's been said. *The source of your confusion
> > > lies within.
>
> > > > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
>
> > > > Plot against Arny? We spent almost all the time talking
> > > > about music, composers, conducting, guitarists, my
> > > > recordings, recordings in general, audio, Stereophile, and
> > > > how Jenn ended up teaching at a school that has an
> > > > excellent recording facility.
>
> > > > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > > > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > > > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> > > * Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> > > by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.
>
> > > ScottW
>
> > And you participate in, indeed encourage, the slimefest for what reason?
>
> *To show you the errors of your ways.

LoL.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 11:36*am, ScottW > wrote:
> On Dec 20, 9:32*am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 12:15 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 20, 8:59 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > > > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> > > > > Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds *with her futile
> > > > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
>
> > > > I am sorry, ScottW. I have [no] idea what you are trying to
> > > > say.
>
> > > LoL. It's been said. *The source of your confusion
> > > lies within.
>
> > What's been said? Lies within what? Seriously, ScottW, I don't
> > know what you are talking about.
>
> * Nor shall you at your pace of comprehension.
>
>
>
> > > > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
>
> > > > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > > > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > > > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> > > *Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> > > by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.
>
> > Again, ScottW, you talk in riddles. From what I can see,
> > Jenn has been unfailingly polite
>
> *A tainted perception.
>
> > in her communications
> > with Arny Krueger, as have I
>
> *LoL. *The pointed tongue wears thin your cheek.
>
> > (with one notable
> > exception several years ago, as I am sure Mr. Krueger
> > will point out). Yes, I guess others' postings could be
> > characterized as "the usual slimefest debauchery,"
> > but what that has to do with Jenn or me is beyond
> > my imagining.
>
> * Try dealing in the reality rather than imagining yourself
> of pure motive.

Try speaking in English instead of pretending to be Carradine's Master
in Kung Fu.

God you're thick. What novel are you reading now? I want to see if
there's any correlation between what you're reading and how stupid you
become.

[Boon]

On Dec 20, 12:07�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 11:36�am, ScottW > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 9:32�am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 20, 12:15 pm, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 20, 8:59 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 20, 11:37 am, ScottW > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Dec 20, 5:08 am, John Atkinson > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Dec 19, 9:01 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > > "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 19, 4:58 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> "John Atkinson" > wrote in
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> On Dec 18, 9:52 pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > > > > > > > So John, now you are recanting your accusation?
>
> > > > > > > Not at all. I called your posting an "accusation"; you
> > > > > > > called it a "suggestion." The two are equivalent,
>
> > > > > > Ouch....poor Jenn. John is totally at odds �with her futile
> > > > > > defense of making suggestions/accusations of hate.
>
> > > > > I am sorry, ScottW. I have [no] idea what you are trying to
> > > > > say.
>
> > > > LoL. It's been said. �The source of your confusion
> > > > lies within.
>
> > > What's been said? Lies within what? Seriously, ScottW, I don't
> > > know what you are talking about.
>
> > � Nor shall you at your pace of comprehension.
>
> > > > > > Did you two discuss this on your date or did you waste
> > > > > > the entire evening plotting against Arny?
>
> > > > > The only time Arny Krueger's name was mentioned was
> > > > > when I asked her why she continued to waste her time
> > > > > trying to redeem the apparently irredeemable. :-)
>
> > > > �Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> > > > by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.
>
> > > Again, ScottW, you talk in riddles. From what I can see,
> > > Jenn has been unfailingly polite
>
> > �A tainted perception.
>
> > > in her communications
> > > with Arny Krueger, as have I
>
> > �LoL. �The pointed tongue wears thin your cheek.
>
> > > (with one notable
> > > exception several years ago, as I am sure Mr. Krueger
> > > will point out). Yes, I guess others' postings could be
> > > characterized as "the usual slimefest debauchery,"
> > > but what that has to do with Jenn or me is beyond
> > > my imagining.
>
> > � Try dealing in the reality rather than imagining yourself
> > of pure motive.
>
> Try speaking in English instead of pretending to be Carradine's Master
> in Kung Fu.
>
> God you're thick. What novel are you reading now? I want to see if
> there's any correlation between what you're reading and how stupid you
> become.

Uh oh. I just finally got around to reading "A Confederacy of Dunces"
a few weeks ago.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 20, 11:42�am, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> �George M. Middius > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jenn said:
>
> > > > > I'm not known to promise something and then break my word.
>
> > > > Only in your own mind, Jenn.
>
> > > Where have I broken my word, Arny?
>
> > Arnii has convinced himself that you "promised" to defend him tirelessly
> > against his "enemies". (That means issuing a constant stream of reprimands
> > to those of us who call a turd a turd.)
>
> > Lately, Mr. **** has been klaiming that I am the Chief Anti-Kroo
> > Konspirator. He does this by chanting the "posse" and "dupes" refrains.
> > Earlier in his "Usenet career", Turdborg attributed his imagined ringleader
> > role to John, and before that he blamed Ed. At some point in the future,
> > you may ascend to the role of Queen Krooger Tormentor, but at the moment,
> > Arnii still expects you to protect him from the likes of me and Shhhh.
>
> > Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)
>
> Well, I've about "had it". �Wasting time defending myself from two
> people against whom my only "sins" are holding different political and
> sound views, as well as holding up a mirror to them, is just that: a
> waste of time.

I know I take it much further than you do, but I know what you mean.
It's a moment of clarity, when you realize these people are really
disturbed, that they don't share your values and they don't perceive
the world in the same manner. It is a waste of time. It also leads to
what Arny calls "unexplained absences."

Boon

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 4:17*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message

> > Did you disagree with what John wrote concerning you
> > giving your word to him? *No evidence of that here.
>
> Non-responsive, does not merit a reply.

Did you have a time limit on how long your word was good for with JA,
GOIA?

(BTW, is something "does not merit a reply" IYO, it's probably best
not to give one. LOL!)

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> I know I take it much further than you do, but I know what you mean.
> It's a moment of clarity, when you realize these people are really
> disturbed, that they don't share your values and they don't perceive
> the world in the same manner. It is a waste of time. It also leads to
> what Arny calls "unexplained absences."

Sometimes it seems that Arnii views RAO as a circle in his private
paradise. The other circles are the other groups he pollultes when he
leaves us alone for a while. Turdy shows up on RAO and plunks down his
coin, expecting to be abused and humiliated. If one of his taskmasters
ignores him or doesn't show, he feels cheated.

[Clyde Slick]

On 20 Dec, 14:30, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Jenn said:
>
> > > > I'm not known to promise something and then break my word.
> > > Only in your own mind, Jenn.
> > Where have I broken my word, Arny?
>
> Arnii has convinced himself that you "promised" to defend him tirelessly
> against his "enemies". (That means issuing a constant stream of reprimands
> to those of us who call a turd a turd.)
>
> Lately, Mr. **** has been klaiming that I am the Chief Anti-Kroo
> Konspirator. He does this by chanting the "posse" and "dupes" refrains.
> Earlier in his "Usenet career", Turdborg attributed his imagined ringleader
> role to John, and before that he blamed Ed. At some point in the future,
> you may ascend to the role of Queen Krooger Tormentor, but at the moment,
> Arnii still expects you to protect him from the likes of me and Shhhh.
>
> Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)

I am very worried about this.
Who will run the posse after you are gone?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 20, 11:15*am, ScottW > wrote:

> * *It's been said. *The source of your confusion
> lies within.

> * Whatever effort she made to redeem was usurped
> by the usual slimefest debauchery long ago.

I think I figured it out.

2pid had Chinese and he's regurgitating what the fortune cookie said.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

> *To show you the errors of your ways. I can't rescue you from the
> swamp without getting in the slime. *

What were the lucky numbers on the back?

I'm on my way to buy a lottery ticket.

[MiNe 109]

In article
>,
Boon > wrote:

> I just finally got around to reading "A Confederacy of Dunces"
> a few weeks ago.

Beware the Bermuda shorts!

Stephen

[Boon]

On Dec 20, 3:31�pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> �Boon > wrote:
> > I just finally got around to reading "A Confederacy of Dunces"
> > a few weeks ago.
>
> Beware the Bermuda shorts!

And the cockatoos.

It was funny, after 50 pages I absolutely hated every single
character. By the end, I really liked them.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> You had my respect when I first arrived here. You
> quickly lost it.

If that's true, it was indistinguishable from normal adult disrespect.

You've got a problem Jenn - you actually think that the Middiot posse are
normal people.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> Well, I've about "had it".

How many times have you said that before on RAO, Jenn?

The real truth is that the Middiot Posse are your kind of guys. You like
their idiotic banter, and their perpetual abusiveness.

[Iain Churches[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>> You had my respect when I first arrived here. You
>> quickly lost it.
>
> If that's true, it was indistinguishable from normal adult disrespect.
>
> You've got a problem Jenn - you actually think that the Middiot posse are
> normal people.

Compared with a sad individual like you, they beam
intellectuality !

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 21, 4:16*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Well, I've about "had it".
>
> How many times have you said that before on RAO, Jenn?

Every time she's been polite to you, and you've been a ****head to her
in return?

I give up.

> The real truth is that the Middiot Posse are your kind of guys. You like
> their idiotic banter, and their perpetual abusiveness.

For some abuse of Jenn, see my response to her question about Everest
LPs.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > Well, I've about "had it".
>
> How many times have you said that before on RAO, Jenn?

A few. Then I foolishly try again to engage you in conversation.

>
> The real truth is that the Middiot Posse are your kind of guys. You like
> their idiotic banter, and their perpetual abusiveness.

Yes, you're correct, Arny. That's why I join in on it so much <rolling
eyes>.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > You had my respect when I first arrived here. You
> > quickly lost it.
>
> If that's true, it was indistinguishable from normal adult disrespect.

I have no idea what you are attempting to say. I started with you from
a position of hoping to learn. But with something like your second post
to me, I was hit with a big ol' ball of slime. You lost my respect
quickly.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > You had my respect when I first arrived here. You
> > > quickly lost it.
> >
> > If that's true, it was indistinguishable from normal adult disrespect.
>
> I have no idea what you are attempting to say. I started with you from
> a position of hoping to learn. But with something like your second post
> to me, I was hit with a big ol' ball of slime. You lost my respect
> quickly.

Mission accomplished!

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> I started
> with you from a position of hoping to learn.

Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. Something
about being a conductor, as I recall. You've even made it part of your email
address.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 21, 8:35*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > I started
> > with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. *Something
> about being a conductor, as I recall. You've even made it part of your email
> address.

And we have the core of GOIA's issues with Jenn: she's smarter and
more accomplished than GOIA.

Just as I suspected.

[Boon]

On Dec 21, 6:47�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 8:35�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > I started
> > > with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> > Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. �Something
> > about being a conductor, as I recall. You've even made it part of your email
> > address.
>
> And we have the core of GOIA's issues with Jenn: she's smarter and
> more accomplished than GOIA.
>
> Just as I suspected.

I think we have the core of Arny's issues with EVERYONE.

Boon

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > I started
> > with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. Something
> about being a conductor, as I recall.

Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.

> You've even made it part of your email
> address.

So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 00:26, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > > I started
> > > with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> > Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. *Something
> > about being a conductor, as I recall.
>
> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> > You've even made it part of your email
> > address.
>
> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> I started
>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>>
>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
>> authority. Something about being a conductor, as I
>> recall.
>
> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
>> You've even made it part of your email
>> address.
>
> So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".

Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be something that you
lust after, Jenn.

Note that for me, my name suffices. That's all the authority I need to
project - that I am me.

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 00:26, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > > I started
> > > with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> > Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of authority. *Something
> > about being a conductor, as I recall.
>
> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> > You've even made it part of your email
> > address.
>
> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 07:44, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> that I am me.-

I didn't see "98% pure feces" in your email address

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 22, 6:44*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>> I started
> >>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> >> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> >> authority. *Something about being a conductor, as I
> >> recall.
>
> > Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> >> You've even made it part of your email
> >> address.
>
> > So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
>
> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be something that you
> lust after, Jenn.

You're reaching insanely, GOIA.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>
> >>> I started
> >>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
> >>
> >> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> >> authority. Something about being a conductor, as I
> >> recall.
> >
> > Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
> >
> >> You've even made it part of your email
> >> address.
> >
> > So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
>
> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be something that you
> lust after, Jenn.

lol The email address is simply my profession, Arny, just as Marcy's is
hers. When we started with Hotmail, both of our names were taken, so we
used our jobs; easy to remember, easy for our contacts to remember.
Simple as that.

>
> Note that for me, my name suffices. That's all the authority I need to
> project - that I am me.

Yes, that's absolutely true. Your name suffices. Everyone on Usenet
knows that you are you, and what that means.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be something that you
> > lust after, Jenn.
>
> You're reaching insanely, GOIA.

That's one way to describe Turdy's latest episode. Another might be that
he's terrified of conductors because they're always acting mean toward him.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I started
>>>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>>>>
>>>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
>>>> authority. Something about being a conductor, as I
>>>> recall.
>>>
>>> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>>>
>>>> You've even made it part of your email
>>>> address.
>>>
>>> So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".

>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
>> something that you lust after, Jenn.

> The email address is simply my profession,

Conductor of what?

Electrons?

Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
musical group.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > Note that for me, my name suffices. That's all the authority I need to
> > project - that I am me.
>
> Yes, that's absolutely true. Your name suffices. Everyone on Usenet
> knows that you are you, and what that means.

Arnii will interpret this comment as a compliment in that you're
acknowledging his "fame".

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message

> Another might be that he's terrified of conductors
> because they're always acting mean toward him.

Given that you keep ranting about being terrified Middiot, one might
conclude that fear is a powerful force in your life. What terrifies you so
much? Given that you also keep ranting about feces, might fear of being
forced to continue to wear a dirty Depends be the emotion that defines your
pathetic life?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Big **** targets Mistress Jenn.

> > The email address is simply my profession,

> Conductor of what?
> Electrons?

Look, everybody -- Krooger made a "joke".

> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
> musical group.

How about if you provide evidence you were ever sane? That would be much
more enlightening to the group.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Arnii, did the Kroobitch kick you out of the house? This xmas season is
your worst ever, and that's saying something.

> > Another might be that he's terrified of conductors
> > because they're always acting mean toward him.

> Given[sic] that you keep ranting about [me] being terrified

I fixed your sentence by supplying the pronoun you dropped, Mr. ****.

> one[sic] might conclude that fear is a powerful force in [my] life.

Another pronoun error. I think you're shorting out, Turdy.

> What terrifies you so much?

That's the third one. Apparently I was wrong -- this isn't a language
malfunction on your part. It now appears to be an episode of involuntary
Kroologic. (That expression, which many of us have used in a jocular sense
for years, is actually a euphemism for your various mental disorders.)

Happy crazy days, Turdborg. May all your obsolete sound cards end up in a
blessed recycling bin.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I started
> >>>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> >>>> authority. Something about being a conductor, as I
> >>>> recall.
> >>>
> >>> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
> >>>
> >>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>> address.
> >>>
> >>> So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
>
> >> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >> something that you lust after, Jenn.
>
> > The email address is simply my profession,
>
> Conductor of what?
>
> Electrons?
>
> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
> musical group.

lol I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees" contest with you,
Arny.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 22, 10:46*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>>>> I started
> >>>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> >>>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> >>>> authority. *Something about being a conductor, as I
> >>>> recall.
>
> >>> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> >>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>> address.
>
> >>> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
> >> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >> something that you lust after, Jenn.
> > *The email address is simply my profession,
>
> Conductor of what?
>
> Electrons?
>
> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
> musical group.

GOIA, that you're crazy is a given. You can stop "proving" it now. We
all believe you.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 22, 10:49*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
>
> > Another might be that he's terrified of conductors
> > because they're always acting mean toward him.

Let's watch the insane in action.

Rule #1: create a strawman.

> Given that you keep ranting about being terrified Middiot, one might
> conclude that fear is a powerful force in your life.

Check. Rule #2: build up that strawman as fast as possible.

> What terrifies you so much?

Check. Rule #3: take it to the extreme.

> Given that you also keep ranting about feces, might fear of being
> forced to continue to wear a dirty Depends be the emotion that defines your
> pathetic life?

Check.

GOIA, as I have just conclusively proven you have followed all of the
symptoms and traits of a deranged mind. Therefore, we can safely
conclude that you are completely nuts.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:

>>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
>>>>>> address.

>>>>> So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
>>>>> "marcysings".

>>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
>>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.

>>> The email address is simply my profession,

>> Conductor of what?

>> Electrons?
>
>> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
>> conducting a major musical group.

> l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> contest with you, Arny.

IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 8:46�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>>>> I started
> >>>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> >>>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> >>>> authority. �Something about being a conductor, as I
> >>>> recall.
>
> >>> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> >>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>> address.
>
> >>> So? �Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
> >> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >> something that you lust after, Jenn.
> > �The email address is simply my profession,
>
> Conductor of what?
>
> Electrons?
>
> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
> musical group.

I think the days of anyone proving anything to you have passed. Since
you suffer from paranoid/narcissistic personality disorders, it is
impossible for you to accept any proof that falls outside of your
fantasy constructs. In other words, you're just wasting everyone's
time.

Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the group.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 8:49�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:l0hvk4l3fpum93gerh8bifkc0gg92ph1nf@4ax .com
>
> > Another might be that he's terrified of conductors
> > because they're always acting mean toward him.
>
> Given that you keep ranting about being terrified Middiot, one might
> conclude that fear is a powerful force in your life. What terrifies you so
> much? Given that you also keep ranting about feces, might fear of being
> forced to continue to wear a dirty Depends be the emotion that defines your
> pathetic life?

Paranoid personality disorder. You project your own fears onto
others. Every IKYABWAI like this confirms the diagnosis.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 11:22�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>>>> address.
> >>>>> So? �Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
> >>>>> "marcysings".
> >>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
> >>> �The email address is simply my profession,
> >> Conductor of what?
> >> Electrons?
>
> >> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> >> conducting a major musical group.
> > l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> > contest with you, Arny.
>
> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
> claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.-

Actually, your buddy CISG presented the group with the evidence a
couple of weeks ago. It's very convenient that you've forgotten
today.

Jenn has documented her claims. You've chosen to run away in fear.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 22, 11:22?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:

>>>>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
>>>>>>>> address.

>>>>>>> So? ?Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
>>>>>>> "marcysings".

>>>>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
>>>>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
>>>>> ?The email address is simply my profession,

>>>> Conductor of what?

>>>> Electrons?

>>>> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
>>>> conducting a major musical group.

>>> l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
>>> contest with you, Arny.

>> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting
>> your claims. Your claim to fame is that you have a
>> grandiose email address.-

> Actually, your buddy CISG presented the group with the
> evidence a couple of weeks ago. It's very convenient
> that you've forgotten today.

Marc, sue me for not following every RAO ****ing contest. Besides, I've
followed up on claims like these from you before, and they turned out to be
nothing.

> Jenn has documented her claims.

Yeah, that's so obvious from her post. NOT!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 22, 1:22*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> >> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> >> conducting a major musical group.
> > l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> > contest with you, Arny.
>
> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
> claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.

GOIA, you're peering into the abyss alone. Were your parents crazy too?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 22, 1:38*pm, Boon > wrote:

> Jenn has documented her claims. *You've chosen to run away in fear.

I find it amusing that GOIA is so petrified of Jenn.

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 12:00�pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 22, 11:22?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>>>>>> address.
> >>>>>>> So? ?Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
> >>>>>>> "marcysings".
> >>>>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >>>>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
> >>>>> ?The email address is simply my profession,
> >>>> Conductor of what?
> >>>> Electrons?
> >>>> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> >>>> conducting a major musical group.
> >>> l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> >>> contest with you, Arny.
> >> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting
> >> your claims. Your claim to fame is that you have a
> >> grandiose email address.-
> > Actually, your buddy CISG presented the group with the
> > evidence a couple of weeks ago. �It's very convenient
> > that you've forgotten today.
>
> Marc, sue me for not following every RAO ****ing contest. �Besides, I've
> followed up on claims like these from you before, and they turned out to be
> nothing.
>
> > Jenn has documented her claims.
>
> Yeah, that's so obvious from her post. NOT!

It's obvious only to you. The rest of us have seen the evidence.
You're too busy plying the debating trade to realize how utterly
ridiculous you've become.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 12:01�pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 22, 1:38�pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > Jenn has documented her claims. �You've chosen to run away in fear.
>
> I find it amusing that GOIA is so petrified of Jenn.

I think he's finally realizing that his life has been wasted,
especially when he sees the others here are more accomplished than he
is and that he's childishly wasting everyone's time. Still, the
personality disorders are very strong, and the voices in his head keep
telling him to demand proof from everyone.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > Jenn has documented her claims. *You've chosen to run away in fear.

> I find it amusing that GOIA is so petrified of Jenn.

Yep, Mistress holds the Kroo on a very short leash. This isn't a new story,
of course. It's been the same with every female he's ever encountered here.
Leslie from NYC and Jennifer from Atlanta are two exemplars of Mr. ****'s
intense misogyny.



--

Words don't have just one meaning.
Combinations of words don't have just one meaning.
A. Krooger, 9 December 2008

Since everything I write defines what Krooglish is, there are no first tries.
A. Krooger, 22 July 2003

[Boon]

On Dec 22, 12:13�pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Shhhh! said:
>
> > > Jenn has documented her claims. �You've chosen to run away in fear.
> > I find it amusing that GOIA is so petrified of Jenn.
>
> Yep, Mistress holds the Kroo on a very short leash. This isn't a new story,
> of course. It's been the same with every female he's ever encountered here.
> Leslie from NYC and Jennifer from Atlanta are two exemplars of Mr. ****'s
> intense misogyny.

He's definitely misogynistic. We've always known about Arny's intense
fear of people who know more than he does. That's why he tries to
chase off every engineer who knows more about audio. (Which, frankly,
is all of them.) Arny wants to hold court here. He wants to be
everyone's resource for knowledge. That, of course, is the
narcissistic personality disorder speaking.

Of course his disorder gets more intense when a silly girl knows more
than he does. That might be related to his religion, which states
that women should not speak up in the presence of men.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 13:06, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >, "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
>
> > >>>>> I started
> > >>>>> with you from a position of hoping to learn.
>
> > >>>> Actually Jenn, you started with a presumed position of
> > >>>> authority. *Something about being a conductor, as I
> > >>>> recall.
>
> > >>> Not part of our first conversations, as I recall.
>
> > >>>> You've even made it part of your email
> > >>>> address.
>
> > >>> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is "marcysings".
>
> > >> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> > >> something that you lust after, Jenn.
>
> > > *The email address is simply my profession,
>
> > Conductor of what?
>
> > Electrons?
>
> > Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is conducting a major
> > musical group.
>
> lol *I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees" contest with you,
> Arny.-

Take him on, maybe when he's out
in the woods, he'll take a dump in a poison ivy patch

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 14:22, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>>>> address.
> >>>>> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
> >>>>> "marcysings".
> >>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
> >>> *The email address is simply my profession,
> >> Conductor of what?
> >> Electrons?
>
> >> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> >> conducting a major musical group.
> > l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> > contest with you, Arny.
>
> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
> claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.-

maybe what she means is that she conducts your discipline sessions.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Shhhh! decides to "pull a GOIA":

On Dec 22, 2:00*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

GOIA, you're obviously suffering from rabies. You're also clearly not
sane.

> Yeah, that's so obvious from my post.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <043133dc-ca5a-4ed8-921c-2dc415512e07
@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, says...

> Of course his disorder gets more intense when a silly girl knows more
> than he does. That might be related to his religion, which states
> that women should not speak up in the presence of men.
>

There might be something to that. Jenn is female, intelligent and
successful; she's a professional working in her chosen field and appears
to be happy and generally thrilled with what she does. Contrast with
Arny: admittedly he's had a long run as a "perfeshonnel debating trade
warrier", and I suppose that's something.

But he's obviously a miserable, sad individual who's highest ambition
(as far as I can tell) is to win "debating trade points". It must really
gall him that Jenn is not only happy and successful, but that she's a
Christian, and from what I can see, behaves like one.

--
Bill

[TT]

"Bill" > wrote in message
t...
> In article <043133dc-ca5a-4ed8-921c-2dc415512e07
> @a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, says...
>
>> Of course his disorder gets more intense when a silly girl knows more
>> than he does. That might be related to his religion, which states
>> that women should not speak up in the presence of men.
>>
>
> There might be something to that. Jenn is female, intelligent and
> successful; she's a professional working in her chosen field and appears
> to be happy and generally thrilled with what she does. Contrast with
> Arny: admittedly he's had a long run as a "perfeshonnel debating trade
> warrier", and I suppose that's something.
>
> But he's obviously a miserable, sad individual who's highest ambition
> (as far as I can tell) is to win "debating trade points". It must really
> gall him that Jenn is not only happy and successful, but that she's a
> Christian, and from what I can see, behaves like one.
>
> --
> Bill

Don't forget that she also likes listening to LPs. This alone is enough to
have her condemned and burnt at the stake!

Aint it good to see the Dark Ages are still alive and well in downtown
Detroit? ;-)

Cheers TT

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...

I think the days of anyone proving anything to you have passed. Since
you suffer from paranoid/narcissistic personality disorders, it is
impossible for you to accept any proof that falls outside of your
fantasy constructs. In other words, you're just wasting everyone's
time.

Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the group.

Boon

Hear! Hear! I'll second that. Perhaps we could substitute "Usenet" for
"group"? After all he enjoys his HTML forums so much perhaps it is time for
him to stay there?

Cheers TT

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

TT said:

> > Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the group.

> Hear! Hear! I'll second that. Perhaps we could substitute "Usenet" for
> "group"? After all he enjoys his HTML forums so much perhaps it is time for
> him to stay there?

Turdborg should confine himself to his chruch. Yesterday, he klaimed he
does 60 hours per week of "volunteer" "professional" "work" there.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
> >>>>>> address.
>
> >>>>> So? Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
> >>>>> "marcysings".
>
> >>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> >>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
>
> >>> The email address is simply my profession,
>
> >> Conductor of what?
>
> >> Electrons?
> >
> >> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> >> conducting a major musical group.
>
> > l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> > contest with you, Arny.
>
> IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
> claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.

Oh darn, Arny. You've exposed me. My career is now ruined.

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 18:08, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >, "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> You've even made it part of your email
> > >>>>>> address.
>
> > >>>>> So? *Mine is "jennconducts" and Marcy's is
> > >>>>> "marcysings".
>
> > >>>> Conducting is a position of authority. It seems to be
> > >>>> something that you lust after, Jenn.
>
> > >>> *The email address is simply my profession,
>
> > >> Conductor of what?
>
> > >> Electrons?
>
> > >> Please provide evidence that your primary occupation is
> > >> conducting a major musical group.
>
> > > l I'm not going to get into a "****ing on trees"
> > > contest with you, Arny.
>
> > IOW Jenn, you're a no-show when it comes to documenting your claims. Your
> > claim to fame is that you have a grandiose email address.
>
> Oh darn, Arny. *You've exposed me. *My career is now ruined.-

there is room in this world for only one successful
Usenet career, and it is Arny's, not yours.
You will just have to go back to your fallback career
of conducting and music education.

[TT]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> TT said:
>
>> > Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the group.
>
>> Hear! Hear! I'll second that. Perhaps we could
>> substitute "Usenet" for
>> "group"? After all he enjoys his HTML forums so much
>> perhaps it is time for
>> him to stay there?
>
> Turdborg should confine himself to his chruch. Yesterday,
> he klaimed he
> does 60 hours per week of "volunteer" "professional"
> "work" there.
>
Add to that the 100+hrs per week he spends on the net there
leaves little time for much else.

Cheers TT

[Clyde Slick]

On 22 Dec, 20:23, "TT" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:dd40l4h2isknb3ig946chbfek9b8a6mtd5@4ax .com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > TT said:
>
> >> > Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the group.
>
> >> Hear! *Hear! I'll second that. *Perhaps we could
> >> substitute "Usenet" for
> >> "group"? *After all he enjoys his HTML forums so much
> >> perhaps it is time for
> >> him to stay there?
>
> > Turdborg should confine himself to his chruch. Yesterday,
> > he klaimed he
> > does 60 hours per week of "volunteer" "professional"
> > "work" there.
>
> Add to that the 100+hrs per week he spends on the net there
> leaves little time for much else.
>
> Cheers TT-

necessity is the mother of invention

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-the-computer-toilet-YSY.jpg

[TT]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
...
On 22 Dec, 20:23, "TT" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in
> messagenews:dd40l4h2isknb3ig946chbfek9b8a6mtd5@4ax .com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > TT said:
>
> >> > Speaking of time, it's time for you to leave the
> >> > group.
>
> >> Hear! Hear! I'll second that. Perhaps we could
> >> substitute "Usenet" for
> >> "group"? After all he enjoys his HTML forums so much
> >> perhaps it is time for
> >> him to stay there?
>
> > Turdborg should confine himself to his chruch.
> > Yesterday,
> > he klaimed he
> > does 60 hours per week of "volunteer" "professional"
> > "work" there.
>
> Add to that the 100+hrs per week he spends on the net
> there
> leaves little time for much else.
>
> Cheers TT-

necessity is the mother of invention

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-the-computer-toilet-YSY.jpg

That is exactly how I pictured Arny's office. Except I see
he has taken down all the KP ;-)

Cheers TT

[TT]

"George M. Middius" > wrote in
message ...
>
>
> Jenn said:
>
>> > Note that for me, my name suffices. That's all the
>> > authority I need to
>> > project - that I am me.
>>
>> Yes, that's absolutely true. Your name suffices.
>> Everyone on Usenet
>> knows that you are you, and what that means.
>
> Arnii will interpret this comment as a compliment in that
> you're
> acknowledging his "fame".
>
It also makes it easier for those that have him killfiled
;-)

Cheers TT

[samvaknin[_2_]]

For a more detailed view of pathological narcissism and the
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - click on these links:

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/npdglance.html

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Serial and mass killers

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School shootings

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============================================
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============================================
Does the Narcissist Have a Multiple Personality (Dissociative Identity
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Narcissists as Drama Queens

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The Narcissist as Know-it-all

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Portrait of the Narcissist as a Young Man

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4923

Narcissists and Emotions

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5248

Narcissists and Mood Disorders

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5067

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

samvaknin said:

> For a more detailed view of pathological narcissism and the
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - click on these links:

What the $(*% is your &%)!)ing point?

[Boon]

On Dec 24, 9:48�am, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> samvaknin said:
>
> > For a more detailed view of pathological narcissism and the
> > Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - click on these links:
>
> What the $(*% is your &%)!)ing point?

It's a 'bot.

Boon

[samvaknin[_2_]]

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The Narcissist and Psychopath in Society
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The Narcissist and Psychopath as Criminals

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5003

The Narcissist is Above the Law

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4983

The Narcissist as Liar and Con-man

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4951

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Pathological Narcissism, Narcissistic Personality disorder and
Psychopathy
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Does the Narcissist Have a Multiple Personality (Dissociative Identity
Disorder)?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4950

Narcissists as Drama Queens

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4948

The Narcissist as Know-it-all

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4945

The Narcissist as VAMPIRE or MACHINE

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4944

Narcissists and Psychopaths Devalue Their Psychotherapists

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4939

Violent, Vindictive, Sadistic, and Psychopathic Narcissists

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4938

Portrait of the Narcissist as a Young Man

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5048

Grandiosity, Fantasies, and Narcissism

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4923

Narcissists and Emotions

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5248

Narcissists and Mood Disorders

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5067

For a more detailed view of pathological narcissism and the
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - click on these links:

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/npdglance.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders12.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders13.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders14.html

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/narcissismglance.html

Other Personality Disorders

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faqpd.html

Pathological Narcissism diagnosed with Other Mental Health Disorders

http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq82.html

NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and AsPD (Antisocial
Personality Disorder, Psychopathy, or Sociopathy)

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders16.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders15.html