Note for Creepy Internet Stalker Guy

[Boon]

Every one of your posts today reeks of desperation. Your insults are
neither funny, scathing nor effective. No one thinks you're smart
enough to be here. How long before you run away again?

Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you. Should
I let you off the hook or continue to string you along? I can't
imagine your posts are going to become any more entertaining in the
near future. When it comes to RAO, you've always been a wannabe.

Boon

[Sophistic]

BaBoon yowled:

> Every one of your posts today reeks of desperation.

OSAF

> Your insults are neither funny, scathing nor effective.

More OSAF.

> No one thinks you're smart enough to be here.

And just a little bit more OSAF.

> How long before you run away again?

I don't run away, merely get bored after a few days or weeks.

> Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.

Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How many
days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you continue
take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be ashamed of
yourself for such blatant fibbing.

[Boon]

On Dec 9, 11:21�pm, "Sophistic" > wrote:
> BaBoon yowled:
>
> > Every one of your posts today reeks of desperation.
>
> OSAF
>
> > Your insults are neither funny, scathing nor effective.
>
> More OSAF.
>
> > No one thinks you're smart enough to be here.
>
> And just a little bit more OSAF.
>
> > How long before you run away again?
>
> I don't run away, merely get bored after a few days or weeks.
>
> > Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.
>
> Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How many
> days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you continue
> take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be ashamed of
> yourself for such blatant fibbing.

The only difference between the Boon of old and the Boon of new is
that I'm not nice to you anymore. Your feelings are hurt. You feel
dejected. And the only thing you can think of is to lash out angrily.

Perhaps you should have thought of all this before you started
attacking the others here, especially Jenn. Your misogynistic and
homophobic rants are offensive to me and many others here.

And you think I'm the bad guy? You ******.

Boon

[Sophistic]

BaBoon yowled:

> > > Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.

> > Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How
> > many days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you
> > continue take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be
> > ashamed of yourself for such blatant fibbing.

> The only difference between the Boon of old and the Boon of new is

the old one was less prone to intellectual dishonesty and didn't rely on
rehashing one "debating trade" shtik after another.

> And you think I'm the bad guy?

Well, yes, the Middius fog seems to have clouded your judgment.

> You ******.

When others re-state it, it's "IKYABWAI", but when you do so, it's "iron knee"
or some such imbecilic inanity.

[Boon]

On Dec 9, 11:50�pm, "Sophistic" > wrote:
> BaBoon yowled:
>
> > > > Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.
> > > Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How
> > > many days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you
> > > continue take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be
> > > ashamed of yourself for such blatant fibbing.
> > The only difference between the Boon of old and the Boon of new is
>
> the old one was less prone to intellectual dishonesty and didn't rely on
> rehashing one "debating trade" shtik after another.

OSAF. Of course it's interesting that you snipped the part about
being rejected by me. You can't even talk about it, can you.

>
> > And you think I'm the bad guy?
>
> Well, yes, the Middius fog seems to have clouded your judgment.

So you mean I should put on the jackboots and start bashing gays and
women like you do?

>
> > You ******.
>
> When others re-state it, it's "IKYABWAI", but when you do so, it's "iron knee"
> or some such imbecilic inanity.

"Iron knee"? What the **** are you talking about? Go to bed, CISG.
Your boss needs you to show up at 9am sharp so you can be belittled
even further.

Boon

[Sophistic]

BaBoon yowled:

> OSAF. Of course it's interesting that you snipped the part about being
> rejected by me. You can't even talk about it, can you.

I don't know what you're talking about, this mushy-feely "rejected by me"
folderol. I had merely pressed you to denounce the MidYut for all the
treacherous, backstabbing mendacity he had trafficked and you proceeded to twist
yourself into a convoluted pretzel in order to resist doing so.

> > > And you think I'm the bad guy?

> > Well, yes, the Middius fog seems to have clouded your judgment.

> So you mean I should put on the jackboots and start bashing gays and women
> like you do?

Re-read my above and perhaps the fog may yet clear up.

> > > You ******.

> > When others re-state it, it's "IKYABWAI", but when you do so, it's "iron
> > knee" or some such imbecilic inanity.

> "Iron knee"? What the **** are you talking about? Go to bed, CISG.Your boss
> needs you to show up at 9am sharp so you can be belittled even further.

Irony, I suppose, can be pretty ironic, so long as it ain't sophomoric.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 1:21*am, "Sophistic" > wrote:
> BaBoon yowled:
>
> > Every one of your posts today reeks of desperation.
>
> OSAF

FSAF

> > Your insults are neither funny, scathing nor effective.
>
> More OSAF.

FSAF

> > No one thinks you're smart enough to be here.
>
> And just a little bit more OSAF.

FSAF

> > How long before you run away again?
>
> I don't run away, merely get bored after a few days or weeks.
>
> > Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.
>
> Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How many
> days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you continue
> take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be ashamed of
> yourself for such blatant fibbing.

You got your ass kicked. Admit it like a man.

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message


> And you think I'm the bad guy? You ******.

Based on Marc's recent bad behavior, here's what "good guys" do:

(1) They start attack threads, like this one.

(2) The declare themselves the winners of some mythical competition that in
fact only exists in their mind.

(3) They threaten to plonk people for disagreeing with the above mentioned
attack thread.

(4) They insult rather than inform or share opinions.

(5) They accuse people of being habitually abusive.

Indeed, there a number of people around here who are habitually abusive, and
Marc is just one of the lesser ones.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
> > And you think I'm the bad guy? You ******.
>
> Based on Marc's recent bad behavior, here's what "good guys" do:
>
> (1) They start attack threads, like this one.
>
> (2) The declare themselves the winners of some mythical competition that in
> fact only exists in their mind.
>
> (3) They threaten to plonk people for disagreeing with the above mentioned
> attack thread.
>
> (4) They insult rather than inform or share opinions.
>
> (5) They accuse people of being habitually abusive.
>
> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are habitually abusive, and
> Marc is just one of the lesser ones.

lol

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 12:17�am, "Creepy Internet Stalker Guy" >
wrote:
> BaBoon yowled:
>
> > OSAF. �Of course it's interesting that you snipped the part about being
> > rejected by me. �You can't even talk about it, can you.
>
> I don't know what you're talking about, this mushy-feely "rejected by me"
> folderol. I had merely pressed you to denounce the MidYut for all the
> treacherous, backstabbing mendacity he had trafficked and you proceeded to twist
> yourself into a convoluted pretzel in order to resist doing so.

Nope, here's what happened:

You came on here making homophobic and misogynistic comments directed
at George and Jenn. Then you tried to get me to side against George
because he called another gay man a "fag," a term you use freely.
Then you felt rejected when I called you on it.

I don't think there's a person here who agrees with you.

>
> > > > And you think I'm the bad guy?
> > > Well, yes, the Middius fog seems to have clouded your judgment.
> > So you mean I should put on the jackboots and start bashing gays and women
> > like you do?
>
> Re-read my above and perhaps the fog may yet clear up.

You mean the fog you create by obfuscating and failing to face the
hypocrisy of your comments and actions? When it comes to you, it's
all smoke and mirrors. I'm not fooled.

>
> > > > You ******.
> > > When others re-state it, it's "IKYABWAI", but when you do so, it's "iron
> > > knee" or some such imbecilic inanity.
> > "Iron knee"? �What the **** are you talking about? �Go to bed, CISG.Your boss
> > needs you to show up at 9am sharp so you can be belittled even further.
>
> Irony, I suppose, can be pretty ironic, so long as it ain't sophomoric.

You've already proven you don't understand irony.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 8:03�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > And you think I'm the bad guy? �You ******.
>
> Based on Marc's recent bad behavior, here's what "good guys" do:
>
> (1) They start attack threads, like this one.
>
> (2) The declare themselves the winners of some mythical competition that in
> fact only exists in their mind.
>
> (3) They threaten to plonk people for disagreeing with the above mentioned
> attack thread.
>
> (4) They insult rather than inform or share opinions.
>
> (5) They accuse people of being habitually abusive.
>
> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are habitually abusive, and
> Marc is just one of the lesser ones.

And you are one of the greater ones? You lead in every one of those
categories. That behavioral disorder isn't getting any better, but
you were wise to stay out of my way over the last several days.

Or were you just jealous that I was spending all my time with CISG?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message


> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >

>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
>> ones.

> And you are one of the greater ones?

I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.

Or did you already forget that?

> You lead in every one of those categories.

Google is not your friend, Marc.

Or as someone just pointed out:

OSAF.

> That behavioral disorder isn't getting any better,

That's clearly noticeable from your recent behavior, Marc.

> but you were wise to stay out of my way over the last several days.

Since you hadn't started any attack thread against me, I thought maybe you
were going to settle down for a change.

> Or were you just jealous that I was spending all my time with CISG?

Why can't you just get along, Marc?

Why does it always have to be this way with you?

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 8:29�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
> >> ones.
> > And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>
> Or did you already forget that?

I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I abandoned my
children. Considering that I just made them breakfast and I'm getting
ready to take them to school, that makes me feel like the target of a
personal attack.

>
> > You lead in every one of those categories.
>
> Google is not your friend, Marc.
>
> Or as someone just pointed out:
>
> OSAF.

Well, that's an "O" that is echoed by the vast majority of posters
here. Google is not your friend on that.

>
> > �That behavioral disorder isn't getting any better,
>
> That's clearly noticeable from your recent behavior, Marc.

So you're saying that your behvioral orders are getting worse because
of me? Or are you having more reading comprehension issues?

>
> > but you were wise to stay out of my way over the last several days.
>
> Since you hadn't started any attack thread against me, I thought maybe you
> were going to settle down for a change.

But then you attacked me this morning and blew that idea to hell.

>
> > Or were you just jealous that I was spending all my time with CISG?
>
> Why can't you just get along, Marc?
>
> Why does it always have to be this way with you?

Hey, the minute you admit you lied about my family and personal life,
I'll cut you a break. Until then, **** you.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 12:56�am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 1:21�am, "Sophistic" > wrote:
>
> > BaBoon yowled:
>
> > > Every one of your posts today reeks of desperation.
>
> > OSAF
>
> FSAF
>
> > > Your insults are neither funny, scathing nor effective.
>
> > More OSAF.
>
> FSAF
>
> > > No one thinks you're smart enough to be here.
>
> > And just a little bit more OSAF.
>
> FSAF
>
> > > How long before you run away again?
>
> > I don't run away, merely get bored after a few days or weeks.
>
> > > Last time you left in defeat immediately after I plonked you.
>
> > Now, that's an outright lie, something the Boon of old would not do. How many
> > days after you did the old ostrich 'head-in-the-sand' thing did you continue
> > take potshots via other posters' responses to me? You should be ashamed of
> > yourself for such blatant fibbing.
>
> You got your ass kicked. Admit it like a man.

Now we need to hear from someone who thinks CISG kicked my ass.
Anyone?

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
>>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
>>>> ones.
>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>>
>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>>
>> Or did you already forget that?

> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> abandoned my children.

Prove that you didn't.

> Considering that I just made them
> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.

Sounds like a good story, but no proof. Given your history for lying, it
might be true, might not be true.

>>> You lead in every one of those categories.
>>
>> Google is not your friend, Marc.
>>
>> Or as someone just pointed out:
>>
>> OSAF.

> Well, that's an "O" that is echoed by the vast majority
> of posters here.

Yeah, "vast majority of posters here", IOW, a motley collection of less
than a dozen sockpuppets, untracable aliases, and malcontents.

> Google is not your friend on that.

Marc seems to be unable to use Google to contradict what I said.

>>> ?That behavioral disorder isn't getting any better,
>>
>> That's clearly noticeable from your recent behavior,
>> Marc.

> So you're saying that your behvioral orders are getting
> worse because of me?

Marc, I'm quite sure that I have no "behvioral orders" at this time. Do you?

> Or are you having more reading
> comprehension issues?

Marc, you've got me confused with someone who cares.

>>> but you were wise to stay out of my way over the last
>>> several days.
>>
>> Since you hadn't started any attack thread against me, I
>> thought maybe you were going to settle down for a change.

> But then you attacked me this morning and blew that idea
> to hell.

No, I just commented on your senseless attacks on someone else.

>>> Or were you just jealous that I was spending all my
>>> time with CISG?

>> Why can't you just get along, Marc?

>> Why does it always have to be this way with you?

> Hey, the minute you admit you lied about my family and
> personal life, I'll cut you a break.

First Marc, prove that you do have a family and a personal life.


> Until then, **** you.

Sorry Marc, but its pretty well known that I'm hetero. Oh, are you saying
that you're really a girl?

Interesting!

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
> >>>> ones.
> >>> And you are one of the greater ones?
> >>
> >> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
> >>
> >> Or did you already forget that?
>
> > I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> > abandoned my children.
>
> Prove that you didn't.
>
> > Considering that I just made them
> > breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> > that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.
>
> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.

Marc! Prove that you made breakfast for your kids! Snap to it!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MassiveIronyBorg launches himself into the sump pit.

> > And you think I'm the bad guy? You ******.
>
> Based on Marc's recent bad behavior, here's what "good guys" do:
>
> (1) They start attack threads, like this one.
>
> (2) The declare themselves the winners of some mythical competition that in
> fact only exists in their mind.
>
> (3) They threaten to plonk people for disagreeing with the above mentioned
> attack thread.
>
> (4) They insult rather than inform or share opinions.
>
> (5) They accuse people of being habitually abusive.

Gosh, Arnii, you lied about one of those items. You only do 4 of the 5.
Why did you lie about KFing those who frighten you?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
>>>>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
>>>>>> lesser ones.
>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>>>>
>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>>
>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
>>> abandoned my children.

>> Prove that you didn't.

>>> Considering that I just made them
>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
>>> that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.

>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.

It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what would constitute
reliable proof.

Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.

> Marc! Prove that you made breakfast for your kids! Snap
> to it!

Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather than address them
in a meaningful way.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> > > > Your insults are neither funny, scathing nor effective.
> >
> > > More OSAF.
> >
> > FSAF
[snip]
> > > yourself for such blatant fibbing.
> >
> > You got your ass kicked. Admit it like a man.
>
> Now we need to hear from someone who thinks CISG kicked my ass.
> Anyone?

Occasionally, Styncho gets off a crack that's a little funny. I'd say one
out of twenty tries on average. So I agree with him that your insult of his
insults is an opinion. That 5% margin is just enough to nudge it out of the
"fact" category.

I'll bet nearly everybody has KFed Stynchie, and not because his "jokes"
stink. Scottie's jokes are awful and the Krooborg's are pathetic, but we
haven't killfiled them. StynchBlob should check his bible to find out why
Normals find him so appalling.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >>>>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
> >>>>>> lesser ones.
> >>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or did you already forget that?
> >>
> >>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> >>> abandoned my children.
>
> >> Prove that you didn't.
>
> >>> Considering that I just made them
> >>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> >>> that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.
>
> >> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>
> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what would constitute
> reliable proof.
>
> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>
> > Marc! Prove that you made breakfast for your kids! Snap
> > to it!
>
> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather than address them
> in a meaningful way.

Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
>>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
>>>>>>>> lesser ones.
>>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
>>>>> abandoned my children.
>>
>>>> Prove that you didn't.
>>
>>>>> Considering that I just made them
>>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
>>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
>>>>> personal attack.
>>
>>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>>
>> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
>> would constitute reliable proof.
>>
>> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>>
>>> Marc! Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
>>> Snap to it!
>>
>> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather
>> than address them in a meaningful way.

> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.

Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this morning. Mea culpa. I
usually do, but some stuff came up. I think I'll do it after lunch.

But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.

Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about physical location
of people, and not about trivial activities.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
> >>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
> >>>>>>>> lesser ones.
> >>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> >>>>> abandoned my children.
> >>
> >>>> Prove that you didn't.
> >>
> >>>>> Considering that I just made them
> >>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
> >>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
> >>>>> personal attack.
> >>
> >>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
> >>
> >> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
> >> would constitute reliable proof.
> >>
> >> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
> >>
> >>> Marc! Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
> >>> Snap to it!
> >>
> >> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather
> >> than address them in a meaningful way.
>
> > Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this morning. Mea culpa. I
> usually do, but some stuff came up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about physical location
> of people, and not about trivial activities.

And how is he supposed to prove this to you?

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 9:37�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
> >>>> ones.
> >>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>
> >> Or did you already forget that?
> > I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> > abandoned my children.
>
> Prove that you didn't.

You can't prove a negative by the absence of a positive. What you're
doing is bearing false witness against me. It's simply not true.

>
> > Considering that I just made them
> > breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> > that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.
>
> Sounds like a good story, but no proof. Given your history for lying, it
> might be true, might not be true.

I have no history of lying.

>
> >>> You lead in every one of those categories.
>
> >> Google is not your friend, Marc.
>
> >> Or as someone just pointed out:
>
> >> OSAF.
> > Well, that's an "O" that is echoed by the vast majority
> > of posters here.
>
> Yeah, "vast majority of posters here", �IOW, a motley collection of less
> than a dozen sockpuppets, untracable aliases, and malcontents.

Prove it!

>
> > �Google is not your friend on that.
>
> Marc seems to be unable to use Google to contradict what I said.

I'm supposed to use Google to identify sockpuppets?

>
> >>> ?That behavioral disorder isn't getting any better,
>
> >> That's clearly noticeable from your recent behavior,
> >> Marc.
> > So you're saying that your behvioral orders are getting
> > worse because of me?
>
> Marc, I'm quite sure that I have no "behvioral orders" at this time. Do you?

In other words, you have "behavioral disorders" and you're trying to
hide behind typos. Nice try.

>
> > Or are you having more reading
> > comprehension issues?
>
> Marc, you've got me confused with someone who cares.

Thanks Arny for admitting defeat on this point.

>
> >>> but you were wise to stay out of my way over the last
> >>> several days.
>
> >> Since you hadn't started any attack thread against me, I
> >> thought maybe you were going to settle down for a change.
> > But then you attacked me this morning and blew that idea
> > to hell.
>
> No, I just commented on your senseless attacks on someone else.

Senseless? You mean the anonymous asshole who said that my special
needs child inherited his disability from me? Tell me how this
differs from attacks on you and Nate.

>
> >>> Or were you just jealous that I was spending all my
> >>> time with CISG?
> >> Why can't you just get along, Marc?
> >> Why does it always have to be this way with you?
> > Hey, the minute you admit you lied about my family and
> > personal life, I'll cut you a break.
>
> First Marc, prove that you do have a family and a personal life.

Come on over to my house and I'll show you.

>
> > �Until then, **** you.
>
> Sorry Marc, but its pretty well known that I'm hetero.

It's pretty well known that you're a pedophile.

Oh, are you saying
> that you're really a girl?

Is that what you want? A little girl?

> Interesting!

Your local police certainly think so.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 9:46�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> >>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >>>>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
> >>>>>> lesser ones.
> >>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>
> >>>> Or did you already forget that?
>
> >>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> >>> abandoned my children.
> >> Prove that you didn't.
> >>> Considering that I just made them
> >>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> >>> that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.
> >> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>
> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what would constitute
> reliable proof.
>
> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>
> > Marc! �Prove that you made breakfast for your kids! �Snap
> > to it!
>
> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather than address them
> in a meaningful way.

You haven't addressed this in a meaningful way. You've been breaking
one of the Ten Commandmants about bearing false witness. You don't
seem to have an answer for that.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 10:02�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
> >>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the
> >>>>>>>> lesser ones.
> >>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>
> >>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>
> >>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> >>>>> abandoned my children.
>
> >>>> Prove that you didn't.
>
> >>>>> Considering that I just made them
> >>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
> >>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
> >>>>> personal attack.
>
> >>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>
> >> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
> >> would constitute reliable proof.
>
> >> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>
> >>> Marc! �Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
> >>> Snap to it!
>
> >> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize rather
> >> than address them in a meaningful way.
> > Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this morning. Mea culpa. I
> usually do, but some stuff came up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about physical location
> of people, and not �about trivial activities.

If you give me your cell phone number, I'll send you a pic of us as
soon as they come home from school.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>

>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.

>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.

>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.

>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about
>> physical location of people, and not about trivial
>> activities.

> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?

Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then its weight is zero.

IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping that his crap would be
perceived to be ice cream.

This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there for you to jump into
and find that they fit.

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 10, 10:02?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
>>>>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of
>>>>>>>>>> the lesser ones.
>>>>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>>
>>>>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads,
>>>>>>>> Marc.
>>
>>>>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said
>>>>>>> I abandoned my children.
>>
>>>>>> Prove that you didn't.
>>
>>>>>>> Considering that I just made them
>>>>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
>>>>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
>>>>>>> personal attack.
>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>>
>>>> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
>>>> would constitute reliable proof.
>>
>>>> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>>
>>>>> Marc! ?Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
>>>>> Snap to it!
>>
>>>> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize
>>>> rather than address them in a meaningful way.
>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>>
>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>>
>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>>
>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about
>> physical location of people, and not ?about trivial
>> activities.
>
> If you give me your cell phone number, I'll send you a
> pic of us as soon as they come home from school.

More holes than a piece of emmenthaler.

"Hey, let me grab my girlfriend's kids and pass them off as my ex-wives."

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

> I'll bet nearly everybody has KFed Stynchie, and not because his "jokes"
> stink. Scottie's jokes are awful and the Krooborg's are pathetic, but we
> haven't killfiled them. StynchBlob should check his bible to find out why
> Normals find him so appalling.

While I won't claim to be Normal, I have him killfiled. His posts are
about as pleasant to read as Bratzi's (who is also in my killfile).

I see no reason to killfile Scottie or the Krooborg. Scottie can be
(unintentionally) very amusing at times, and when he sticks to audio
he's just fine. As for the Krooborg, well, it's sort of like watching a
bad accident that I can't pry my eyes away from. I know I should look
away, but I can't believe what I'm seeing.

--
Bill

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message


> You haven't addressed this in a meaningful way. You've
> been breaking one of the Ten Commandments about bearing
> false witness.

Last I looked Marc, eared that you didn't think much of the Bible. Why are
you citing something that you disrespect?

>You don't seem to have an answer for that.

The answer is my one-size fits all answer to 99% of the smoke you blow,
Marc. BS.

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 10:38�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 10:02?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
> >>>>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of
> >>>>>>>>>> the lesser ones.
> >>>>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >>>>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads,
> >>>>>>>> Marc.
>
> >>>>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>
> >>>>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said
> >>>>>>> I abandoned my children.
>
> >>>>>> Prove that you didn't.
>
> >>>>>>> Considering that I just made them
> >>>>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
> >>>>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
> >>>>>>> personal attack.
>
> >>>>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>
> >>>> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
> >>>> would constitute reliable proof.
>
> >>>> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>
> >>>>> Marc! ?Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
> >>>>> Snap to it!
>
> >>>> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize
> >>>> rather than address them in a meaningful way.
> >>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> >> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about
> >> physical location of people, and not ?about trivial
> >> activities.
>
> > If you give me your cell phone number, I'll send you a
> > pic of us as soon as they come home from school.
>
> More holes than a piece of emmenthaler.
>
> "Hey, let me grab my girlfriend's kids and pass them off as my ex-wives."-

I'll send you pics of their school,IDs as well.

Boon

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message


> On Dec 10, 9:37?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:

>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>

>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof. Given your
>> history for lying, it might be true, might not be true.

> I have no history of lying.

> It's pretty well known that you're a pedophile.

Nice Marc of you to prove yourself a liar with two statements, so closely
juxtaposition.

The factual statement is that there are a few people, almost all of whom are
RAO regulars, who pretend that they think I'm a pedophile, because it looks
impressive to their little pea brains when they are composing their usual
childish drivel.

[Arny Krueger]

"Boon" > wrote in message

> On Dec 10, 10:38?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 10:02?am, "Arny Krueger" >
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here
>>>>>>>>>>>> who are habitually abusive, and Marc is just
>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the lesser ones.
>>>>>>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads,
>>>>>>>>>> Marc.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you
>>>>>>>>> said I abandoned my children.
>>
>>>>>>>> Prove that you didn't.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Considering that I just made them
>>>>>>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
>>>>>>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
>>>>>>>>> personal attack.
>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>>
>>>>>> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
>>>>>> would constitute reliable proof.
>>
>>>>>> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>>
>>>>>>> Marc! ?Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
>>>>>>> Snap to it!
>>
>>>>>> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize
>>>>>> rather than address them in a meaningful way.
>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>>
>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
>>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>>
>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>>
>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
>>>> about physical location of people, and not ?about
>>>> trivial activities.
>>
>>> If you give me your cell phone number, I'll send you a
>>> pic of us as soon as they come home from school.
>>
>> More holes than a piece of emmenthaler.
>>
>> "Hey, let me grab my girlfriend's kids and pass them off
>> as my ex-wives."-
>
> I'll send you pics of their school,IDs as well.

Easy enough to forge.

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
>
> >>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> >> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about
> >> physical location of people, and not about trivial
> >> activities.
>
> > And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then its weight is zero.
>
> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping that his crap would be
> perceived to be ice cream.
>
> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there for you to jump into
> and find that they fit.

So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to prove.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg goes over the top again.

> > I'll send you pics of their school,IDs as well.
>
> Easy enough to forge.

Unchecked borganoia can be deleterious to your health. Oh wait -- you have
no health. I forgot that. Never mind. ;-(

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to prove.

Jenn, I'm beginning to suspect you haven't even glanced at your "debating
trade" manual. If you don't acquaint yourself with the Krooborg's
instruction set, you'll continue to be surprised by Turdy's topsy-turvy
priorities and objectives.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>>
>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
>>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>>
>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>>
>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
>>>> about physical location of people, and not about
>>>> trivial activities.
>>
>>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>>
>> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
>> its weight is zero.
>>
>> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
>> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.

>> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
>> for you to jump into and find that they fit.

> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> prove.

It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
choice of a universe full of alternatives.

Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes. :-(

[Jenn[_2_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
> >>
> >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
> >>
> >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
> >>
> >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> >>>> trivial activities.
> >>
> >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
> >>
> >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> >> its weight is zero.
> >>
> >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
>
> >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
>
> > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > prove.
>
> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes. :-(

Shut up, Arny. Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring. You really
think that he's going to take the time to forge a digital photo? lol

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Bill said:

> > I'll bet nearly everybody has KFed Stynchie, and not because his "jokes"
> > stink. Scottie's jokes are awful and the Krooborg's are pathetic, but we
> > haven't killfiled them. StynchBlob should check his bible to find out why
> > Normals find him so appalling.
>
> While I won't claim to be Normal,

Actually, you are so. In the RAO vernacular, if you're not 'borg, you're
Normal.

> I have him killfiled. His posts are
> about as pleasant to read as Bratzi's (who is also in my killfile).

You said it. Scottie likes both of them, however.

> I see no reason to killfile Scottie or the Krooborg. Scottie can be
> (unintentionally) very amusing at times, and when he sticks to audio
> he's just fine. As for the Krooborg, well, it's sort of like watching a
> bad accident that I can't pry my eyes away from. I know I should look
> away, but I can't believe what I'm seeing.

Sounds like pity. Arnii seems to want pity, but when he gets it, it only
makes him sulk harder.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 11:37*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> >>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who are
> >>>> habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of the lesser
> >>>> ones.
> >>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads, Marc.
>
> >> Or did you already forget that?
> > I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said I
> > abandoned my children.
>
> Prove that you didn't.
>
> > Considering that I just made them
> > breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to school,
> > that makes me feel like the target of a personal attack.
>
> Sounds like a good story, but no proof. Given your history for lying, it
> might be true, might not be true.
>
> >>> You lead in every one of those categories.
>
> >> Google is not your friend, Marc.
>
> >> Or as someone just pointed out:
>
> >> OSAF.
> > Well, that's an "O" that is echoed by the vast majority
> > of posters here.
>
> Yeah, "vast majority of posters here", *IOW, a motley collection of less
> than a dozen sockpuppets, untracable aliases, and malcontents.

Hm. I'll put them against the "100s or perhaps thousands" who "admire
and respect" you, GOIA. LOL!

> > *Google is not your friend on that.
>
> Marc seems to be unable to use Google to contradict what I said.

Who wants to sift through literally tens of thousands of posts showing
your insanity? Pick a month and a year, GOIA. I've browsed the
archive. It isn't pretty for you.

> Marc, I'm quite sure that I have no "behvioral orders" at this time. Do you?

Please provide proof of your professional licensure or provide scans
of your clinical sessions.

Otherwise you have just admitted that my diagnosis of you being insane
is valid.

Contradict yourself much, GOIA? LOL!

> First Marc, prove that you do have a family and a personal life.

I think proof that you don't have personality issues is in order
first.

How about a MMPI2 analysis by a licensed professional? That works for
me.

> > *Until then, **** you.
>
> Sorry Marc, but its pretty well known that I'm hetero. Oh, are you saying
> that you're really a girl?
>
> Interesting!

What's interesting is that I just responded to your "words have
several meanings" comment in another thread by telling you that when I
say to you "you're an insane ****" it isn't sexual.

It appears that my lesson was lost on you.

And now you really owe an apology to Jenn. You just did to Boon what
you've been bitching at Jenn about.

Why do you always contradict yourself, GOIA? I mean, apart from your
insanity that is.

Oh, and have a nice day!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 1:40*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>> about physical location of people, and not *about
> >>>> trivial activities.
>
> >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> >> its weight is zero.
>
> >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > prove.
>
> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes. :-(

So, GOIA, this brings up an interesting point: you get to claim
whatever you want to about anybody else, but the same isn't true for
others.

Is that hypocrisy or insanity? I've lost track.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 12:40*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > You haven't addressed this in a meaningful way. *You've
> > been breaking one of the Ten Commandments about bearing
> > false witness.
>
> Last I looked Marc, eared that you didn't think much of the Bible. Why are
> you citing something that you disrespect?

The cock is crowing three times, GOIA. You're denying your lord.

You apparently do not respect it either.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 12:42*pm, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 9:37?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
> >> Sounds like a good story, but no proof. Given your
> >> history for lying, it might be true, might not be true.
> > I have no history of lying.
> > It's pretty well known that you're a pedophile.
>
> Nice Marc of you to prove yourself a liar with two statements, so closely
> juxtaposition.
>
> The factual statement is that there are a few people, almost all of whom are
> RAO regulars, who pretend that they think I'm a pedophile, because it looks
> impressive to their little pea brains when they are composing their usual
> childish drivel.

Using your own standards, GOIA, please prove that you're not a
pedophile. Until you do, it is safe to assume that you are one. ;-)

[Bill[_16_]]

In article >,
says...

I wrote:

> > While I won't claim to be Normal,

George replied:

> Actually, you are so. In the RAO vernacular, if you're not 'borg, you're
> Normal.

I can accept that. It's nice to be normal!

> > I have him killfiled. His posts are
> > about as pleasant to read as Bratzi's (who is also in my killfile).
>
> You said it. Scottie likes both of them, however.

Well, Scottie seems to like some odd things. What I find even more
strange are some of his dislikes: his irrational hatred of JA for one
example.

> > As for the Krooborg, well, it's sort of like watching a
> > bad accident that I can't pry my eyes away from. I know I should look
> > away, but I can't believe what I'm seeing.
>
> Sounds like pity. Arnii seems to want pity, but when he gets it, it only
> makes him sulk harder.

Well, I do admit that I sometimes pity the Krooborg, but most often I'm
torn between disgust and disbelief.

--
Bill

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 11:40�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>> about physical location of people, and not �about
> >>>> trivial activities.
>
> >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> >> its weight is zero.
>
> >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > prove.
>
> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.

You're absolutely right, Arny. I can't prove any of this to you due
to your personality disorders. The only facts that you will accept
are those that fit into your compromised belief system. I can provide
proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you would still
use your contorted belief system to deny it.

It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. The test here
isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but whether
you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. You haven't
done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has caught on to
your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I did).

But there is a way to settle this matter. I will send your posts from
today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. I will allow him to
make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. I request your
permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul as I try
to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for proof.

If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. If
Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. If you do
not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.

If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
"debate." And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
lying about my family.

Deal?

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 10:40�am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > You haven't addressed this in a meaningful way. �You've
> > been breaking one of the Ten Commandments about bearing
> > false witness.
>
> Last I looked Marc, eared [sic] that you didn't think much of the Bible. Why are
> you citing something that you disrespect?

I respect the idea that you shouldn't lie about others. It's funny
how atheists and agnostics simply know how to be moral and ethical
while religious people such as yourself have to be threatened with
eternal damnation in order to comply.

>
> >You don't seem to have an answer for that.
>
> The answer is my one-size fits all answer to 99% of the smoke you blow,
> Marc. BS.

That's your personality disorder talking. If it doesn't conform to
your distorted belief system and perceptions about yourself, it must
be BS.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Boon said:

> If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
> have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. If
> Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
> with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. If you do
> not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
> your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
> "debate." And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
> lying about my family.
> Deal?

Arnii will be unable to reply to your post. He will snip everything after
"But there is a way to settle this matter." The Krooborg will argue with
"one way" and klaim the matter is already "settled", and then he'll snip the
rest of your post without replying.

I'm not saying that Arnii Krooger is a coward. It's just that Arnii is a
"master of the debating trade", which he believes renders him immune from
interference by the real world or anybody in it.

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Dec, 13:38, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 10:02?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:29?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 8:03?am, "Arny Krueger"
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>> Indeed, there a number of people around here who
> >>>>>>>>>> are habitually abusive, and Marc is just one of
> >>>>>>>>>> the lesser ones.
> >>>>>>>>> And you are one of the greater ones?
>
> >>>>>>>> I'm one of the targets of your attack threads,
> >>>>>>>> Marc.
>
> >>>>>>>> Or did you already forget that?
>
> >>>>>>> I'm sorry...I was still thinking about how you said
> >>>>>>> I abandoned my children.
>
> >>>>>> Prove that you didn't.
>
> >>>>>>> Considering that I just made them
> >>>>>>> breakfast and I'm getting ready to take them to
> >>>>>>> school, that makes me feel like the target of a
> >>>>>>> personal attack.
>
> >>>>>> Sounds like a good story, but no proof.
>
> >>>> It is also evidence that Marc has no clue as to what
> >>>> would constitute reliable proof.
>
> >>>> Marc wants us to believe that his crap is ice cream.
>
> >>>>> Marc! ?Prove that you made breakfast for your kids!
> >>>>> Snap to it!
>
> >>>> Typical of Jenn's numerous attempts to trivialize
> >>>> rather than address them in a meaningful way.
> >>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> >> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is about
> >> physical location of people, and not ?about trivial
> >> activities.
>
> > If you give me your cell phone number, I'll send you a
> > pic of us as soon as they come home from school.
>
> More holes than a piece of emmenthaler.
>
> "Hey, let me grab my girlfriend's kids and pass them off as my ex-wives."-

"At least" you had the integrity to fondle your
own dead kid's body rather then rent some other
dead kid's body to fondle

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Dec, 17:32, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 11:40 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >, "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
>
> > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > >>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > > prove.
>
> > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> You're absolutely right, Arny. *I can't prove any of this to you due
> to your personality disorders. *The only facts that you will accept
> are those that fit into your compromised belief system. *I can provide
> proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you would still
> use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. *The test here
> isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but whether
> you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. *You haven't
> done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has caught on to
> your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I did).
>
> But there is a way to settle this matter. *I will send your posts from
> today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. *I will allow him to
> make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. *I request your
> permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul as I try
> to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for proof.
>
> If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
> have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. *If
> Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
> with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. *If you do
> not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
> your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
> "debate." *And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
> lying about my family.
>
> Deal?
>
> Boon-

I will contribute $100 to the cost of your plane ticket to Detroit..
that is, unless you want to drive a bus there.

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 11:40?am, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> >>>>> morning.
>
> >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>> about physical location of people, and not ?about
> >>>> trivial activities.
>
> >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> >> its weight is zero.
>
> >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > prove.
>
> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> credibility on a claim that
> is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort.
> He had the free
> choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully
> sucked in by
> Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.

You're absolutely right, Arny. I can't prove any of this to
you due
to your personality disorders. The only facts that you will
accept
are those that fit into your compromised belief system. I
can provide
proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you
would still
use your contorted belief system to deny it.

It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. The
test here
isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but
whether
you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. You
haven't
done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has
caught on to
your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I
did).

But there is a way to settle this matter. I will send your
posts from
today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. I will
allow him to
make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. I
request your
permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul
as I try
to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for
proof.

If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right,
that I
have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever.
If
Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you
agree
with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here.
If you do
not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to
explain why
your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.

If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost
the
"debate." And if I meet you in person, you will take a
beating for
lying about my family.

Deal?

Boon


Marc could I just draw your attention to a couple of points
in this rather lengthy fiasco.

* You have offered to send photos of your children to a
probable paedophile. That disturbs me :-(
* You are divulging personal information freely to a net
fruitcake!
* You are giving a lot of future ammunition to the same!
* You have allowed everyone (inc. said nutcase) to see that
your family is a vulnerable subject.
* You have (unfortunately) allowed said nut case to profile
you using the scatter gun approach i.e keep firing shots off
until he hits a target.
* There appears to be more than one identity here that is
intent on making your life difficult at the moment.
* Beware of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" ;-)
* Lastly, why on Earth are you hell bent on wasting your
time and effort trying to have a sane argument with Arny? I
must admit though, I have made the same mistake :-(
Concepts such as truth, honesty and science are suspended in
all such discussions ;-)

Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)

Cheers TT

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 8:38�pm, "TT" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 10, 11:40?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >, "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
>
> > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> > >>>>> morning.
>
> > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > >>>> about physical location of people, and not ?about
> > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > > prove.
>
> > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> > credibility on a claim that
> > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort.
> > He had the free
> > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully
> > sucked in by
> > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> You're absolutely right, Arny. �I can't prove any of this to
> you due
> to your personality disorders. �The only facts that you will
> accept
> are those that fit into your compromised belief system. �I
> can provide
> proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you
> would still
> use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. �The
> test here
> isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but
> whether
> you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. �You
> haven't
> done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has
> caught on to
> your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I
> did).
>
> But there is a way to settle this matter. �I will send your
> posts from
> today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. �I will
> allow him to
> make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. �I
> request your
> permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul
> as I try
> to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for
> proof.
>
> If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right,
> that I
> have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever.
> If
> Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you
> agree
> with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here.
> If you do
> not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to
> explain why
> your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost
> the
> "debate." �And if I meet you in person, you will take a
> beating for
> lying about my family.
>
> Deal?
>
> Boon
>
> Marc could I just draw your attention to a couple of points
> in this rather lengthy fiasco.
>
> * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> probable paedophile. �That disturbs me :-(

Holy ****. I didn't even think about that.

> * You are divulging personal information freely to a net
> fruitcake!

It's okay...I've been to Arny's house. We're old friends.

> * You are giving a lot of future ammunition to the same!

I'm not about to give him any personal info.

> * You have allowed everyone (inc. said nutcase) to see that
> your family is a vulnerable subject.

I think anyone's family is a vulnerable subject. Of course I'm
exempting those who post to RAO on the day of their son's funerals.
But c'mon...if someone talks **** about your family, I think you
should be able to kick their ****ing ass legally.

> * You have (unfortunately) allowed said nut case to profile
> you using the scatter gun approach i.e keep firing shots off
> until he hits a target.

He's been doing that for years. He hasn't hit yet. Let's
see...according to Arny, I'm a part-time construction laborere living
in Orange County. If he wants to think that, fine.

> * �There appears to be more than one identity here that is
> intent on making your life difficult at the moment.

Only if they take it off RAO. So far there's only been one person to
do that...Bob Morein. And he missed by a mile. If it stays on RAO,
there's no difficulty.

> * Beware of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" ;-)

It's happened before, and it still didn't work.

> * Lastly, why on Earth are you hell bent on wasting your
> time and effort trying to have a sane argument with Arny? �I
> must admit though, I have made the same mistake :-(
> Concepts such as truth, honesty and science are suspended in
> all such discussions ;-)

I'm not wasting time and effort...I'm amusing myself.

>
> Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)

But that's how I make a living!

Seriously, though, thanks for the concern.

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 7:51�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 10 Dec, 17:32, Boon > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 10, 11:40 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > > > In article
> > > > >, "Arny
> > > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> >, "Arny
> > > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > >
>
> > > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> > > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> > > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > > >>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> > > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> > > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> > > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > > > prove.
>
> > > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> > > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> > > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> > > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> > You're absolutely right, Arny. �I can't prove any of this to you due
> > to your personality disorders. �The only facts that you will accept
> > are those that fit into your compromised belief system. �I can provide
> > proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you would still
> > use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> > It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. �The test here
> > isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but whether
> > you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. �You haven't
> > done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has caught on to
> > your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I did).
>
> > But there is a way to settle this matter. �I will send your posts from
> > today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. �I will allow him to
> > make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. �I request your
> > permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul as I try
> > to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for proof.
>
> > If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
> > have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. �If
> > Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
> > with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. �If you do
> > not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
> > your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> > If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
> > "debate." �And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
> > lying about my family.
>
> > Deal?
>
> > Boon-
>
> I will contribute $100 to the cost of your plane ticket to Detroit..
> that is, unless you want to drive a bus there.

Gimme the keys. I'll be there by Friday night.

Boon

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 8:38?pm, "TT" >
wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 10, 11:40?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >,
> > >>> "Arny
> > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
>
> > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> > >>>>> morning.
>
> > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff
> > >>>> came
> > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > >>>> about physical location of people, and not ?about
> > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim,
> > >> then
> > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are
> > >> there
> > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible
> > > to
> > > prove.
>
> > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> > credibility on a claim that
> > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort.
> > He had the free
> > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> > fully
> > sucked in by
> > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> You're absolutely right, Arny. ?I can't prove any of this
> to
> you due
> to your personality disorders. ?The only facts that you
> will
> accept
> are those that fit into your compromised belief system. ?I
> can provide
> proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you
> would still
> use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. ?The
> test here
> isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me,
> but
> whether
> you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim.
> ?You
> haven't
> done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has
> caught on to
> your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and
> I
> did).
>
> But there is a way to settle this matter. ?I will send
> your
> posts from
> today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. ?I will
> allow him to
> make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. ?I
> request your
> permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries
> foul
> as I try
> to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements
> for
> proof.
>
> If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are
> right,
> that I
> have abandoned my children, I will leave this group
> forever.
> If
> Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and
> you
> agree
> with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me
> here.
> If you do
> not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to
> explain why
> your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost
> the
> "debate." ?And if I meet you in person, you will take a
> beating for
> lying about my family.
>
> Deal?
>
> Boon
>
> Marc could I just draw your attention to a couple of
> points
> in this rather lengthy fiasco.
>
> * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> probable paedophile. ?That disturbs me :-(

Holy ****. I didn't even think about that.

> * You are divulging personal information freely to a net
> fruitcake!

It's okay...I've been to Arny's house. We're old friends.

> * You are giving a lot of future ammunition to the same!

I'm not about to give him any personal info.

> * You have allowed everyone (inc. said nutcase) to see
> that
> your family is a vulnerable subject.

I think anyone's family is a vulnerable subject. Of course
I'm
exempting those who post to RAO on the day of their son's
funerals.
But c'mon...if someone talks **** about your family, I think
you
should be able to kick their ****ing ass legally.

> * You have (unfortunately) allowed said nut case to
> profile
> you using the scatter gun approach i.e keep firing shots
> off
> until he hits a target.

He's been doing that for years. He hasn't hit yet. Let's
see...according to Arny, I'm a part-time construction
laborere living
in Orange County. If he wants to think that, fine.

> * ?There appears to be more than one identity here that is
> intent on making your life difficult at the moment.

Only if they take it off RAO. So far there's only been one
person to
do that...Bob Morein. And he missed by a mile. If it stays
on RAO,
there's no difficulty.

> * Beware of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" ;-)

It's happened before, and it still didn't work.

> * Lastly, why on Earth are you hell bent on wasting your
> time and effort trying to have a sane argument with Arny?
> ?I
> must admit though, I have made the same mistake :-(
> Concepts such as truth, honesty and science are suspended
> in
> all such discussions ;-)

I'm not wasting time and effort...I'm amusing myself.

>
> Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)

But that's how I make a living!

Seriously, though, thanks for the concern.

Boon

That's OK :-)

I'm deadly serious about the photos though. Please
reconsider *all* the implications.

Cheers TT

[Boon]

On Dec 10, 9:37�pm, "TT" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 10, 8:38?pm, "TT" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > On Dec 10, 11:40?am, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > > > In article
> > > > >, "Arny
> > > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> >,
> > > >>> "Arny
> > > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > >
>
> > > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> > > >>>>> morning.
>
> > > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff
> > > >>>> came
> > > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > > >>>> about physical location of people, and not ?about
> > > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim,
> > > >> then
> > > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are
> > > >> there
> > > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible
> > > > to
> > > > prove.
>
> > > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> > > credibility on a claim that
> > > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort.
> > > He had the free
> > > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> > > fully
> > > sucked in by
> > > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> > You're absolutely right, Arny. ?I can't prove any of this
> > to
> > you due
> > to your personality disorders. ?The only facts that you
> > will
> > accept
> > are those that fit into your compromised belief system. ?I
> > can provide
> > proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you
> > would still
> > use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> > It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. ?The
> > test here
> > isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me,
> > but
> > whether
> > you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim.
> > ?You
> > haven't
> > done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has
> > caught on to
> > your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and
> > I
> > did).
>
> > But there is a way to settle this matter. ?I will send
> > your
> > posts from
> > today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. ?I will
> > allow him to
> > make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. ?I
> > request your
> > permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries
> > foul
> > as I try
> > to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements
> > for
> > proof.
>
> > If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are
> > right,
> > that I
> > have abandoned my children, I will leave this group
> > forever.
> > If
> > Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and
> > you
> > agree
> > with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me
> > here.
> > If you do
> > not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to
> > explain why
> > your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> > If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost
> > the
> > "debate." ?And if I meet you in person, you will take a
> > beating for
> > lying about my family.
>
> > Deal?
>
> > Boon
>
> > Marc could I just draw your attention to a couple of
> > points
> > in this rather lengthy fiasco.
>
> > * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> > probable paedophile. ?That disturbs me :-(
>
> Holy ****. �I didn't even think about that.
>
> > * You are divulging personal information freely to a net
> > fruitcake!
>
> It's okay...I've been to Arny's house. �We're old friends.
>
> > * You are giving a lot of future ammunition to the same!
>
> I'm not about to give him any personal info.
>
> > * You have allowed everyone (inc. said nutcase) to see
> > that
> > your family is a vulnerable subject.
>
> I think anyone's family is a vulnerable subject. �Of course
> I'm
> exempting those who post to RAO on the day of their son's
> funerals.
> But c'mon...if someone talks **** about your family, I think
> you
> should be able to kick their ****ing ass legally.
>
> > * You have (unfortunately) allowed said nut case to
> > profile
> > you using the scatter gun approach i.e keep firing shots
> > off
> > until he hits a target.
>
> He's been doing that for years. �He hasn't hit yet. �Let's
> see...according to Arny, I'm a part-time construction
> laborere living
> in Orange County. �If he wants to think that, fine.
>
> > * ?There appears to be more than one identity here that is
> > intent on making your life difficult at the moment.
>
> Only if they take it off RAO. �So far there's only been one
> person to
> do that...Bob Morein. �And he missed by a mile. If it stays
> on RAO,
> there's no difficulty.
>
> > * Beware of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" ;-)
>
> It's happened before, and it still didn't work.
>
> > * Lastly, why on Earth are you hell bent on wasting your
> > time and effort trying to have a sane argument with Arny?
> > ?I
> > must admit though, I have made the same mistake :-(
> > Concepts such as truth, honesty and science are suspended
> > in
> > all such discussions ;-)
>
> I'm not wasting time and effort...I'm amusing myself.
>
>
>
> > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)
>
> But that's how I make a living!
>
> Seriously, though, thanks for the concern.
>
> Boon
>
> That's OK :-)
>
> I'm deadly serious about the photos though. Please
> reconsider *all* the implications.

Arny would never give me his cell phone number.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Dec, 23:55, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 7:51 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10 Dec, 17:32, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 10, 11:40 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > >
>
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >, "Arny
> > > > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> >, "Arny
> > > > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > > >
>
> > > > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> > > > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > > > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> > > > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > > > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > > > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > > > >>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> > > > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > > > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > > > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> > > > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > > > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > > > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > > > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> > > > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > > > > prove.
>
> > > > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> > > > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> > > > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > > > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> > > > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> > > You're absolutely right, Arny. I can't prove any of this to you due
> > > to your personality disorders. The only facts that you will accept
> > > are those that fit into your compromised belief system. I can provide
> > > proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you would still
> > > use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> > > It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. The test here
> > > isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but whether
> > > you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. You haven't
> > > done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has caught on to
> > > your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I did).
>
> > > But there is a way to settle this matter. I will send your posts from
> > > today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. I will allow him to
> > > make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. I request your
> > > permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul as I try
> > > to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for proof.
>
> > > If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
> > > have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. If
> > > Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
> > > with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. If you do
> > > not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
> > > your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> > > If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
> > > "debate." And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
> > > lying about my family.
>
> > > Deal?
>
> > > Boon-
>
> > I will contribute $100 to the cost of your plane ticket to Detroit..
> > that is, unless you want to drive a bus there.
>
> Gimme the keys. *I'll be there by Friday night.
>
> Boon-


These guys can lend you a bus for the weekend

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_Buss

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Dec, 23:55, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 7:51 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10 Dec, 17:32, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 10, 11:40 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > >
>
> > > > > In article
> > > > > >, "Arny
> > > > > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> >, "Arny
> > > > >>> Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> > > >
>
> > > > >>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this morning.
>
> > > > >>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> > > > >>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> > > > >>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>
> > > > >>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>
> > > > >>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> > > > >>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> > > > >>>> trivial activities.
>
> > > > >>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>
> > > > >> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> > > > >> its weight is zero.
>
> > > > >> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> > > > >> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> > > > >> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> > > > >> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> > > > > So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> > > > > prove.
>
> > > > It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal credibility on a claim that
> > > > is impossible for him to prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free
> > > > choice of a universe full of alternatives.
>
> > > > Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be fully sucked in by
> > > > Marc's game-playing. Typical of Middiot dupes.
>
> > > You're absolutely right, Arny. I can't prove any of this to you due
> > > to your personality disorders. The only facts that you will accept
> > > are those that fit into your compromised belief system. I can provide
> > > proof that would be acceptable in a court of law, but you would still
> > > use your contorted belief system to deny it.
>
> > > It doesn't really matter, though...and you know why. The test here
> > > isn't whether I can prove that my children live with me, but whether
> > > you can prove that I abandoned them as per your claim. You haven't
> > > done that yet, and you think it's funny that no one has caught on to
> > > your debating trick yet (which isn't true, since Shhh! and I did).
>
> > > But there is a way to settle this matter. I will send your posts from
> > > today to Pastor Matt, along with all of my proof. I will allow him to
> > > make a judgment on the matter and discuss it with you. I request your
> > > permission to do so. This will ensure that no one cries foul as I try
> > > to go out in the real world to satisfy your requirements for proof.
>
> > > If you do agree and Pastor Matt decides that you are right, that I
> > > have abandoned my children, I will leave this group forever. If
> > > Pastor Matt is satisfied that I have proven my point and you agree
> > > with his assessment, you will need to apologize to me here. If you do
> > > not trust Pastor Matt's judgment, then you will need to explain why
> > > your chosen spiritual leader has let you down.
>
> > > If you don't agree to any of these conditions, you've lost the
> > > "debate." And if I meet you in person, you will take a beating for
> > > lying about my family.
>
> > > Deal?
>
> > > Boon-
>
> > I will contribute $100 to the cost of your plane ticket to Detroit..
> > that is, unless you want to drive a bus there.
>
> Gimme the keys. *I'll be there by Friday night.
>
> Boon-

this guy will drive ot for you

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/268/3b2

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>
>>>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>>>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
>>>>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>>>>
>>>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
>>>>>> about physical location of people, and not about
>>>>>> trivial activities.
>>>>
>>>>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>>>>
>>>> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
>>>> its weight is zero.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
>>>> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
>>
>>>> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
>>>> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
>>
>>> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
>>> prove.
>>
>> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
>> credibility on a claim that is impossible for him to
>> prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free choice
>> of a universe full of alternatives.
>>
>> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
>> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
>> Middiot dupes. :-(

> Shut up, Arny.

Typical of the Middiot posse. Free speech isn't exactly high on their list
of priorities.

> Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.

As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul behavior of her good
buddies.

> You really think that he's going to take the time to forge a digital
> photo? lol

As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a tool!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Watch the Krooborg if you want to learn how to throw a temper tantrum,
Stynchie. To achieve this level of whininess, you have to unhook yourself
completely from any tether to reality, no matter how tenuous.

> >> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> >> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
> >> [my supreme master's] dupes.[sic]

See that, StynchBlob? Mr. Kroofeces has never provided any evidence that I
have ever "duped" anybody, but that doesn't stop him from continually
repeating it as if he actually believes it.

> :-(

Nor does it matter that those TurdBorg calls my "dupes" have repudiated many
of my comments about him. The Krooborg's borganoia is so intense and
all-consuming that it is compelled to find an external scapegoat for its own
widespread unpopularity.

> > Shut up, Arny.

> Typical of [my supreme master's] posse[sic]. Free speech isn't exactly high on their list
> of priorities.

SnottyBorg dumps all over everybody, then complains that *we* are stifling
*him*. I think Turdy may have learned this "debating trade" maneuver from
Scottie Terrierborg. ****ty "minds" perform alike, so to speak.

> > Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.

> As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul behavior of her good
> buddies.

Here we see KrybabyBorg trying to tattle on the other children. Normals
laugh or cry at such behavior, Stynchie, whereas your invective usually
provokes sneering. Do you want to be pitied like Mr. **** is? Pay attention.

> > You really think that he's going to take the time to forge a digital
> > photo? lol

> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a tool!

Arnii "**** for Dinner" Kroofeces wraps up his tantrum by snottily repeating
what a Smart Guy has recently called him. Truly pathetic. If you're paying
attention, Stynchie, you too can become an object of pity equal to the
Krooborg.

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...

Arny would never give me his cell phone number.

Boon

I can't actually see Arny having one. He is either at home, on the net,
creating more snot or down the road at his Church. His wife will know where
he is at all times and no one else would care! So why would he bother? Oh
and the expense as well. Can't afford site hosting so a cell phone is
probably too dear as well ;-)

After you consider all the methods of communication open to Arny the only
one that he would want to use (for free) is prayer ;-)

Cheers TT

[Clyde Slick]

On 11 Dec, 08:14, "TT" > wrote:


>
> After you consider all the methods of communication open to Arny the only
> one that he would want to use (for free) is prayer ;-)
>
>

Arny keeps talking, but nobody is answering.

[Arny Krueger]

"TT" > wrote in message
. au

> "Boon" > wrote in message
> ...

> Arny would never give me his cell phone number.

Seems like enough of my phone numbers are readily available, as it stands.

> I can't actually see Arny having one.

Terry, your blindness is well known.

> He is either at home, on the net, creating more snot or down the road at
> his Church.

Or pursuing my day job which involves driving around and fixing PCs.

> His wife will know where he is at all times
> and no one else would care! So why would he bother? Oh
> and the expense as well. Can't afford site hosting

That's a false claim, www.pcavtech.com is still around.

[Clyde Slick]

On 10 Dec, 23:54, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:
>

>
> > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)
>
> But that's how I make a living!
>
>

Life stinks!

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> >>>>>>> morning.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff came
> >>>>>> up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> >>>>>> trivial activities.
> >>>>
> >>>>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim, then
> >>>> its weight is zero.
> >>>>
> >>>> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >>>> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> >>
> >>>> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are there
> >>>> for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> >>
> >>> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible to
> >>> prove.
> >>
> >> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> >> credibility on a claim that is impossible for him to
> >> prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free choice
> >> of a universe full of alternatives.
> >>
> >> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> >> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
> >> Middiot dupes. :-(
>
> > Shut up, Arny.
>
> Typical of the Middiot posse. Free speech isn't exactly high on their list
> of priorities.
>
> > Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.
>
> As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul behavior of her good
> buddies.
>
> > You really think that he's going to take the time to forge a digital
> > photo? lol
>
> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a tool!

You're a sick pup, Arny. Go "debate" someone else.

[Boon]

On Dec 11, 6:41�am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 10 Dec, 23:54, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:
>
> > > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> > > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> > > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)
>
> > But that's how I make a living!
>
> Life stinks!

Considering my poison is Diet Coke, it's not quite that glamorous.
But a nice cigar helps.

I'm really enjoying these WLM La Scala Monitors, though. I'm using a
new CJ amp/preamp, but I've also settled in with the SimAudio I-7
integrated as well...who knew I'd go from a 2wpc SET to a 150wpc solid-
state amp? The Zu Audio DL-103 cartridge is absolutely fantastic for
$399.

Plus, I go to a live show once a week. So yeah, this gig is pretty
sweet.

Boon

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 10, 10:54*pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:

> > * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> > probable paedophile. That disturbs me :-(
>
> Holy ****. *I didn't even think about that.

Boon, it looks like this has gone beyond "probable". GOIA has not
posted any evidence that he is sane, that he does not have severe
personality disorders, or that he is not a pedophile.

We can safely now be sure that GOIA is an insane pedophile with severe
personality disorders under GOIA's own "debating trade" rules.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 11, 6:14*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message

> >> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> >> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
> >> Middiot dupes. :-(
> > Shut up, Arny.
>
> Typical of the Middiot posse. Free speech isn't exactly high on their list
> of priorities.

The way I see it, you are free to say whatever you want to, GOIA. Then
we get to say whatever we want to back.

You've never answered, GOIA. Do you think you behave here as Jesus
would want you to? (And it doesn't matter whether or not I am a
Christian, GOIA. It is not me who makes the false claim that I am a
follower or adherent of a particular belief system. That would be
you.)

> > Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.
>
> As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul behavior of her good
> buddies.

Do you ever behave in a foul manner here? (Rhetorical question.)

> > *You really think that he's going to take the time to forge a digital
> > photo? *lol
>
> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a tool!

Why are you so afraid of Jenn, GOIA?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
>>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
>>>>>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff
>>>>>>>> came up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
>>>>>>>> about physical location of people, and not about
>>>>>>>> trivial activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim,
>>>>>> then its weight is zero.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
>>>>>> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
>>>>
>>>>>> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are
>>>>>> there for you to jump into and find that they fit.
>>>>
>>>>> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible
>>>>> to prove.
>>>>
>>>> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
>>>> credibility on a claim that is impossible for him to
>>>> prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free choice
>>>> of a universe full of alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
>>>> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
>>>> Middiot dupes. :-(
>>
>>> Shut up, Arny.
>>
>> Typical of the Middiot posse. Free speech isn't exactly
>> high on their list of priorities.
>>
>>> Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.
>>
>> As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul
>> behavior of her good buddies.
>>
>>> You really think that he's going to take the time to
>>> forge a digital photo? lol
>>
>> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a
>> tool!
>
> You're a sick pup, Arny. Go "debate" someone else.

You can stop responding to my posts, and stop posting attacks on me at your
earliest convenience, Jenn.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> >, "Arny
> >>>>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>> >,
> >>>>>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Arny, prove that you brushed your teeth this
> >>>>>>>>> morning.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mission impossible. I didn't brush my teeth this
> >>>>>>>> morning. Mea culpa. I usually do, but some stuff
> >>>>>>>> came up. I think I'll do it after lunch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But as usual Jenn, you're trivializing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Apparently Jenn, you can't figure out that this is
> >>>>>>>> about physical location of people, and not about
> >>>>>>>> trivial activities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And how is he supposed to prove this to you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not my problem. If he made an unsupportable claim,
> >>>>>> then its weight is zero.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IOW, Marc as usual was just talking trash, and hoping
> >>>>>> that his crap would be perceived to be ice cream.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> This works on people who are naive. The shoes are
> >>>>>> there for you to jump into and find that they fit.
> >>>>
> >>>>> So you ask for proof for something that is impossible
> >>>>> to prove.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not my fault that Marc rested his personal
> >>>> credibility on a claim that is impossible for him to
> >>>> prove with a reasonable effort. He had the free choice
> >>>> of a universe full of alternatives.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jenn, I find it interesting Jenn that you seem to be
> >>>> fully sucked in by Marc's game-playing. Typical of
> >>>> Middiot dupes. :-(
> >>
> >>> Shut up, Arny.
> >>
> >> Typical of the Middiot posse. Free speech isn't exactly
> >> high on their list of priorities.
> >>
> >>> Your "debating trade" crapolla is so tiring.
> >>
> >> As usual Jenn can't raise her voice against the foul
> >> behavior of her good buddies.
> >>
> >>> You really think that he's going to take the time to
> >>> forge a digital photo? lol
> >>
> >> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a
> >> tool!
> >
> > You're a sick pup, Arny. Go "debate" someone else.
>
> You can stop responding to my posts,

OK.

> and stop posting attacks on me at your
> earliest convenience, Jenn.

You always start it, and are never able take back in kind.

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 11, 6:41?am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 10 Dec, 23:54, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:
>
> > > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> > > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> > > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)
>
> > But that's how I make a living!
>
> Life stinks!

Considering my poison is Diet Coke, it's not quite that glamorous.

It needs a dash of Scotch or Bourbon ;-)

But a nice cigar helps.

Pass ;-)

I'm really enjoying these WLM La Scala Monitors, though. I'm using a
new CJ amp/preamp, but I've also settled in with the SimAudio I-7
integrated as well...who knew I'd go from a 2wpc SET to a 150wpc solid-
state amp?

Funny that, I have just heard a 8wpc SET using 300Bs and it was very
impressive.

The Zu Audio DL-103 cartridge is absolutely fantastic for
$399.

MM or MC?

Plus, I go to a live show once a week. So yeah, this gig is pretty
sweet.

There is a standing offer to swap jobs anytime you like with a "grease
monkey" ;-) I could even learn to drink my Diet Coke straight :-))

Cheers TT

[TT]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 10:54 pm, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:

> > * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> > probable paedophile. That disturbs me :-(
>
> Holy ****. I didn't even think about that.

Boon, it looks like this has gone beyond "probable". GOIA has not
posted any evidence that he is sane, that he does not have severe
personality disorders, or that he is not a pedophile.

We can safely now be sure that GOIA is an insane pedophile with severe
personality disorders under GOIA's own "debating trade" rules.

Actually, under any normal person's judging criteria as well ;-)

Cheers TT

[Boon]

On Dec 11, 2:05�pm, "TT" > wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 11, 6:41?am, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > On 10 Dec, 23:54, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:
>
> > > > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a nice
> > > > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a little
> > > > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness? ;-)
>
> > > But that's how I make a living!
>
> > Life stinks!
>
> Considering my poison is Diet Coke, it's not quite that glamorous.
>
> It needs a dash of Scotch or Bourbon ;-)

Jack and Diet Coke is pretty damn good. But I'd rather have a single
malt like Lagavulin. You know, I think I haven't had a Scotch in a
year. No specific reason, just busy.

>
> But a nice cigar helps.
>
> Pass �;-)

That's my only vice these days. Well, that and "punishing" Arny.

>
> I'm really enjoying these WLM La Scala Monitors, though. �I'm using a
> new CJ amp/preamp, but I've also settled in with the SimAudio I-7
> integrated as well...who knew I'd go from a 2wpc SET to a 150wpc solid-
> state amp?
>
> Funny that, I have just heard a 8wpc SET using 300Bs and it was very
> impressive.

Still love SETs...it's just hard to review speakers with them.

>
> � The Zu Audio DL-103 cartridge is absolutely fantastic for
> $399.
>
> MM or MC?

MC. It's a Denon DL-103 with an aluminum body and a few mods here and
there. I can't think of another $400 cartridge that comes close.

>
> Plus, I go to a live show once a week. �So yeah, this gig is pretty
> sweet.
>
> There is a standing offer to swap jobs anytime you like with a �"grease
> monkey" ;-) �I could even learn to drink my Diet Coke straight :-))

If I get to go to Australia to do it? Absolutely!

Boon

[Boon]

On Dec 11, 2:08�pm, "TT" > wrote:
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" > wrote in ...
> On Dec 10, 10:54 pm, Boon > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT" > wrote:
> > > * You have offered to send photos of your children to a
> > > probable paedophile. That disturbs me :-(
>
> > Holy ****. I didn't even think about that.
>
> Boon, it looks like this has gone beyond "probable". GOIA has not
> posted any evidence that he is sane, that he does not have severe
> personality disorders, or that he is not a pedophile.
>
> We can safely now be sure that GOIA is an insane pedophile with severe
> personality disorders under GOIA's own "debating trade" rules.
>
> Actually, under any normal person's judging criteria as well ;-)

Well, he certainly ran and hid from my "challenge." I do sense that
Arny's ready to jettison the whole Jeebus bit, however...it's getting
in the way of the debating trade.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 11 Dec, 12:34, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> You can stop responding to my posts, *and stop posting attacks on me at your
> earliest convenience, Jenn.-

Party "Pooper"!!!!

[Boon]

On Dec 11, 6:10�pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 11 Dec, 12:34, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > You can stop responding to my posts, �and stop posting attacks on me at your
> > earliest convenience, Jenn.-
>
> Party "Pooper"!!!!

Arny came out with a skewed version of "Can't we all just get along?"
this morning. Evidently he prayed for forgiveness last night and his
imaginary God told him to start being nicer. That lasted until 10am,
PST.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 11 Dec, 21:17, Boon > wrote:
> On Dec 11, 6:10 pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
>
> > On 11 Dec, 12:34, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > > You can stop responding to my posts, and stop posting attacks on me at your
> > > earliest convenience, Jenn.-
>
> > Party "Pooper"!!!!
>
> Arny came out with a skewed version of "Can't we all just get along?"
> this morning. *Evidently he prayed for forgiveness last night and his
> imaginary God told him to start being nicer. *That lasted until 10am,
> PST.
>
> Boon

I missed that!

[TT]

"Boon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 11, 2:05?pm, "TT" >
wrote:
> "Boon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 11, 6:41?am, Clyde Slick >
> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Dec, 23:54, Boon > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 10, 8:38 pm, "TT"
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > Why not chill out, go put some nice vinyl on, pour a
> > > > nice
> > > > big glass of your favourite poison and kick back a
> > > > little
> > > > and let Arny (and co) stew in their own foulness?
> > > > ;-)
>
> > > But that's how I make a living!
>
> > Life stinks!
>
> Considering my poison is Diet Coke, it's not quite that
> glamorous.
>
> It needs a dash of Scotch or Bourbon ;-)

Jack and Diet Coke is pretty damn good. But I'd rather have
a single
malt like Lagavulin. You know, I think I haven't had a
Scotch in a
year. No specific reason, just busy.

>
> But a nice cigar helps.
>
> Pass ?;-)

That's my only vice these days. Well, that and "punishing"
Arny.

>
> I'm really enjoying these WLM La Scala Monitors, though.
> ?I'm using a
> new CJ amp/preamp, but I've also settled in with the
> SimAudio I-7
> integrated as well...who knew I'd go from a 2wpc SET to a
> 150wpc solid-
> state amp?
>
> Funny that, I have just heard a 8wpc SET using 300Bs and
> it was very
> impressive.

Still love SETs...it's just hard to review speakers with
them.

>
> ? The Zu Audio DL-103 cartridge is absolutely fantastic
> for
> $399.
>
> MM or MC?

MC. It's a Denon DL-103 with an aluminum body and a few
mods here and
there. I can't think of another $400 cartridge that comes
close.

>
> Plus, I go to a live show once a week. ?So yeah, this gig
> is pretty
> sweet.
>
> There is a standing offer to swap jobs anytime you like
> with a ?"grease
> monkey" ;-) ?I could even learn to drink my Diet Coke
> straight :-))

If I get to go to Australia to do it? Absolutely!

Boon

Hang on a minute here Marc! We had better not get caught
out discussing audio in an audio group! People will think
we are very strange ;-)

Perhaps RAO should be called rec.Arny.opinion or perhaps
rec.Arny.outing?

Cheers TT

[Bill[_16_]]

In article <da1dbc37-f3d8-4324-98e8-d258b1a40215
@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, says...

> MC. It's a Denon DL-103 with an aluminum body and a few mods here and
> there. I can't think of another $400 cartridge that comes close.

I haven't heard this cartridge, but it seems that it's the real deal.
Art Dudley *loved* it in a Stereophile review a while back. Even the
Denon seems to get a fair bit of love, but Zu seems to have really
pushed the performance with their mods.

That might just be a nice gift from Santa this year!

--
Bill

[TT]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" >
wrote in message
...
>
> As usual Jenn, whatever they sell, she's buying. What a
> tool!

Why are you so afraid of Jenn, GOIA?

Persons of Arny's ilk are scared ****less of intelligent,
articulate females that have a career. You know the type,
the little woman should be kept barefoot and pregnant in the
kitchen?

Ahhhh, for some the middle ages were wonderful ;-) Next he
will want to re-introduce the Spanish inquisition ;-) Burn
the odd heretic or two before lunch is a wonderful,
fulfilling day well spent. Eh Arny? :-))

Cheers TT

[Sophistic]

The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:

>> > Shut up, Arny.

Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose. Not even *you* can be
that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)

Better to say nothing (which Jenn probably felt she couldn't or she'd be
hammered for running away) or try to deflect or change the subject than to have
nothing left to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.

> Arnii "**** for Dinner" Kroofeces wraps up his tantrum by snottily repeating
> what a Smart Guy has recently called him. Truly pathetic. If you're paying
> attention, Stynchie, you too can become an object of pity equal to the
> Krooborg.

That's quite a caca fascination you have there, 'lil Georgie. What'sa matter,
didn't your mommy change your diapers frequently enough, instead leaving you to
stew in your own juices, because she was too busy having carnal knowledge with
the swarthy, next-door neighbor right in front of your horrified little eyes,
which may explain why you grew up to be the way your are?

[Sophistic]

Boon wrote:

> Considering my poison is Diet Coke...

Poison is right, as aspartame is a neurotoxin.

Now we know why your mental faculties have radically deteriorated.

"Aspartame Consumption Again Linked to Degeneration of Brain Neurons"
http://www.naturalnews.com/024316.html

and this

"Buy Your Poison - Aspartame, Diet Soda, Splenda"
http://www.naturalnews.com/024302.html

[Arny Krueger]

"Sophistic" > wrote in message

> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>
>>>> Shut up, Arny.
>
> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.
> Not even *you* can be that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's
> a rhetorical question.)
> Better to say nothing (which Jenn probably felt she
> couldn't or she'd be hammered for running away)

She's run away many times. If she'd tend to her own business, there would be
no problem.

She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of the Middiot. She wants to
run me off, for fun or profit.

> or try to
> deflect or change the subject than to have nothing left
> to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.

Probably via private email or phone calls from the Middiot. Something has to
be driving these idiots to keep beating their heads against the wall.

>> Arnii "**** for Dinner" Kroofeces wraps up his tantrum
>> by snottily repeating what a Smart Guy has recently
>> called him. Truly pathetic. If you're paying attention,
>> Stynchie, you too can become an object of pity equal to
>> the Krooborg.

> That's quite a caca fascination you have there, 'lil
> Georgie.

Everybody seems to notice.

> What'sa matter, didn't your mommy change your
> diapers frequently enough, instead leaving you to stew in
> your own juices, because she was too busy having carnal
> knowledge with the swarthy, next-door neighbor right in
> front of your horrified little eyes, which may explain
> why you grew up to be the way your are?

If George could afford decent health care, he'd get his Depends changed far
more promptly.

[Clyde Slick]

On 12 Dec, 05:58, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>
> She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of the Middiot. She wants to
> run me off, for fun or profit.
>

Damn, we won't have anybody to kick around anymore,'
with duhMikey, Clerkie and Mr. **** all gone.


> > or try to
> > deflect or change the subject than to have nothing left
> > to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.
>
> Probably via private email or phone calls from the Middiot. Something has to
> be driving these idiots to keep beating their heads against the wall.
>

paranoid fantsies are swirling around in the **** bucket that
sits atop your neck.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Sophistic" > wrote:

> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>
> >> > Shut up, Arny.
>
> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.

Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.

> Not even *you* can
> be
> that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)

Thank you for your far less than intelligent statement. I'll file it
where it belongs.

>
> Better to say nothing (which Jenn probably felt she couldn't or she'd be
> hammered for running away) or try to deflect or change the subject than to
> have
> nothing left to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.

As if heckling from you or Arny is something to care about.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Sophistic" > wrote in message
>
> > The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
> >
> >>>> Shut up, Arny.
> >
> > Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.
> > Not even *you* can be that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's
> > a rhetorical question.)
> > Better to say nothing (which Jenn probably felt she
> > couldn't or she'd be hammered for running away)
>
> She's run away many times. If she'd tend to her own business, there would be
> no problem.

lol Thank you for demonstrating one of Sophistic's points.

>
> She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of the Middiot. She wants to
> run me off, for fun or profit.

lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to act like a polite
human being to those who are willing to return the favor.

>
> > or try to
> > deflect or change the subject than to have nothing left
> > to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.
>
> Probably via private email or phone calls from the Middiot.

lol

[TT]

"Jenn" > wrote in message news:jennconducts->>
>> She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of the Middiot. She wants
>> to
>> run me off, for fun or profit.
>
> lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to act like a polite
> human being to those who are willing to return the favor.
>
I'd be happy with "run off"!

BTW so would many others ;-) And please keep up the good work.

Cheers TT

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

TT said:

> >> She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of [my supreme master]. She wants
> >> to run me off, for fun or profit.

> > lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to act like a polite
> > human being to those who are willing to return the favor.

> I'd be happy with "run off"!
> BTW so would many others ;-) And please keep up the good work.

Mistress has been immersed in music so long that she can act out lyrics
unconsciously.

Crack that whip
Give the past the slip
Step on a crack
Break your mommas back
When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When somethings going wrong
You must whip it

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
Its not too late
To whip it
Whip it good

Personally, I hate that song, but the Krooborg loves it. ;-)

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"TT" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message news:jennconducts->>
> >> She seems to be unable to avoid the influence of the Middiot. She wants
> >> to
> >> run me off, for fun or profit.
> >
> > lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to act like a polite
> > human being to those who are willing to return the favor.
> >
> I'd be happy with "run off"!
>
> BTW so would many others ;-) And please keep up the good work.
>
> Cheers TT

Thanks, but I honestly don't want to "run him off" unless he can't be
polite. He has valuable technical audio knowledge that we can all learn
from. But his problem is similar to mine: difficulty in ignoring those
who troll him attacks. If he could ignore that, he could be a valuable
participant, just as I would be more use to the group if I could ignore
those who go after me. But alas, we both find that hard to do.

Some have asked (including one board participant in person this week, as
it happens) why I bother coming back at Arny. It's a good question, and
I admit that I'm not sure of the answer. I just keep hoping for
improvement in the group. I think that we're an interesting mix of
personalities, expertise, and experiences. The group could be really
cool, if we would allow it. Just my $0.02.

[Sophistic]

If irony kilt, the MidYut would be shrieking like a bagpipe:

> Crack that whip...

> Personally, I hate that song ...

We know, you prefer their other song ... "Jocko Homo"

[Sophistic]

Jenn clucked:

>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:

>> >> > Shut up, Arny.

>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.

> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.

And about as effective as commanding someone to "stop posting" on a Usenet
forum.

>> Not even *you* can be that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical
>> question.)

> Thank you for your far less than intelligent statement. I'll file it where it
> belongs.

You do realize that was directed at the MidYut? Well, here's a new one for you,
Jenn: Better to temper your typing fingers and be thought foolish than to post
away and remove all doubt.

>> Better to say nothing (which Jenn probably felt she couldn't or she'd be
>> hammered for running away) or try to deflect or change the subject than to
>> have nothing left to say but "shut up" is sure to provoke further heckling.

> As if heckling from you or Arny is something to care about.

Then why get your knickers in a twist?

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Sophistic" > wrote:

> Jenn clucked:
>
> >> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>
> >> >> > Shut up, Arny.
>
> >> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.
>
> > Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
>
> And about as effective as commanding someone to "stop posting" on a Usenet
> forum.
>
> >> Not even *you* can be that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical
> >> question.)
>
> > Thank you for your far less than intelligent statement. I'll file it where
> > it
> > belongs.
>
> You do realize that was directed at the MidYut? Well, here's a new one for
> you,
> Jenn: Better to temper your typing fingers and be thought foolish than to
> post
> away and remove all doubt.

Incorrect, Soph. Here's the context:

Me: Shut up, Arny.

You: Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose. Not even
*you* can be
that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)

You obviously were responding to me. Try to follow along.

[TT]

"Jenn" > wrote in message news:jennconducts->
> Incorrect, Soph. Here's the context:
>
> Me: Shut up, Arny.
>
> You: Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose. Not even
> *you* can be
> that obtuse, can you? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)
>
> You obviously were responding to me. Try to follow along.

Meow!

Hiss!

Spit!

Swwwwipe!
http://www.petsource.org/~/media/migration%20folder/upload/images/articles/cat/cat32.jpg.ashx

Contact! http://www.bevscountrycottage.com/images/leprosy-bandages.jpg
$1.00 a roll

Cheers TT :-))

[Sophistic]

Jenn persisted:

> You obviously were responding to me. Try to follow along.

My post was a direct response to the Pudge, prefaced with this initial line:
"The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:"

If you insist on making yourself look even more foolish, then all by means don't
let me stop you from so doing.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Sophistic" > wrote:

> Jenn persisted:
>
> > You obviously were responding to me. Try to follow along.
>
> My post was a direct response to the Pudge, prefaced with this initial line:
> "The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:"
>
> If you insist on making yourself look even more foolish, then all by means
> don't
> let me stop you from so doing.

Then it's an example of very poor writing. You followed a quote by ME
with a sentence starting with "You".

[Sophistic]

Jenn schoolmarmed:

> Then it's an example of very poor writing. You followed a quote by ME
> with a sentence starting with "You".

Yez'm, I'ze stands corrected.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Sophistic" > wrote:

> Jenn schoolmarmed:
>
> > Then it's an example of very poor writing. You followed a quote by ME
> > with a sentence starting with "You".
>
> Yez'm, I'ze stands corrected.

And so do I. There you go.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 12:21*am, "Sophistic" > wrote:
> Jenn persisted:
>
> > You obviously were responding to me. *Try to follow along.
>
> My post was a direct response to the Pudge, prefaced with this initial line:
> "The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:"
>
> If you insist on making yourself look even more foolish, then all by means don't
> let me stop you from so doing.

LOL!

Jenn 1, simpleton 0.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message


> lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to
> act like a polite human being to those who are willing to
> return the favor.

Jenn, your idea of politeness lacks more than a little. Indeed, this post
exemplifies it, you want to exercise authority over me. Also, I can't
stomach people who are active members of the Middiot posse.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >,
> "Sophistic" > wrote:
>
>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>>
>>>>> Shut up, Arny.
>>
>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.
>
> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.

Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy. It's easy enough to
quiet people without being that blunt and forceful. I guess we now know what
your classroom presence is like.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 07:48, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:

Also, I can't
> stomach people who are active members of the Middiot posse.


It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:


>
> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy. It's easy enough to
> quiet people without being that blunt and forceful. I guess we now know what
> your classroom presence is like.

"at least" she doesn't have to deal with any students as difficult as
you.

http://a0.vox.com/6a00c225279cef604a00d4144ac4f83c7f-320pi

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >,
> > "Sophistic" > wrote:
> >
> >> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
> >>
> >>>>> Shut up, Arny.
> >>
> >> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic lose.
> >
> > Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
>
> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy.

I'm simply trying to speak a language that you understand, Arny. I've
tried polite with you several times.

> It's easy enough to
> quiet people without being that blunt and forceful. I guess we now know what
> your classroom presence is like.

lol I haven't raised my voice or been "forceful" in a classroom in
years, Arny. My students tend to be polite.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > lol I don't want to run you off, Arny. I want you to
> > act like a polite human being to those who are willing to
> > return the favor.
>
> Jenn, your idea of politeness lacks more than a little. Indeed, this post
> exemplifies it, you want to exercise authority over me.

To the extent that I hope beyond hope that you will start being polite,
I suppose that you're right.

> Also, I can't
> stomach people who are active members of the Middiot posse.

Sorry, I don't wear no stinking badges.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 10:00*am, Jenn > wrote:
> In article >,
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
> > > lol *I don't want to run you off, Arny. *I want you to
> > > act like a polite human being to those who are willing to
> > > return the favor.
>
> > Jenn, your idea of politeness lacks more than a little. Indeed, this post
> > exemplifies it, you want to exercise authority over me.
>
> To the extent that I hope beyond hope that you will start being polite,
> I suppose that you're right.

You're being impolite by calling GOIA impolite.

2pid suffers from this same hallucination.

> > Also, I can't
> > stomach people who are active members of the Middiot posse.
>
> Sorry, I don't wear no stinking badges.

It's like this, Jenn: anybody who opposed or disagreed with GOIA on
any point, at any time, for any reason, are a part of GOIA's imaginary
"posse". Everybody is out to "get" him. He is, in his insanity, the
nicest, most helpfulest most bestest guy on RAO. Ever. He doesn't
deserve the treatment he gets. He can't understand why so many people,
with such diverse backgrounds, over such a lengthy period of time,
think that he's such an ass.

Sometimes insane people see things that aren't really there. And other
times they cannot see what's right in front of them.

Here's another interesting trait of GOIA's: right now, if you were to
say "Arny, you're absolutely right and I apologize for my
behavior" (not that you need to, BTW) GOIA would still be an ass and
still be impolite. I've told him, for example, that I agree with many
of his audio-related points. Still, he lumps me into those who believe
in "floobydust", probably because I've confessed to the crime of
enjoying LPs.

In GOIA's insanity-riddled brain, there are only two groups of people:
those who wholeheartedly agree with everything he's ever said (or will
say), and the rest who are out to "get" him.

Poor GOIA! He's crazy.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message

> In article
> >, "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >,
>>> "Sophistic" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Shut up, Arny.
>>>>
>>>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic
>>>> lose.
>>>
>>> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
>>
>> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy.
>
> I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> understand, Arny.

Condescending attitude noted.

Jenn, obviously you are clueless about how to effectively communicate with
people. Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 11:25*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message

> > I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> > understand, Arny.
>
> Condescending attitude noted.

This sounds like something 2pid might say. LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 9:58*am, Jenn > wrote:
> *"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> > It's easy enough to
> > quiet people without being that blunt and forceful. I guess we now know what
> > your classroom presence is like.
>
> lol *I haven't raised my voice or been "forceful" in a classroom in
> years, Arny. *My students tend to be polite.

It's also possible that they know they don't know everything. LOL!

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

> > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.

> It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.

Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
replying directly to my posts.

Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 12:25, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>

*Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.-

Decoding the Krooglish, Arny is inviting you over to his place
to sample some of his favorite turds.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 13:43, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Clyde Slick said:
>
> > > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.
> > It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.
>
> Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> replying directly to my posts.
>
> Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.

I have to give you credit,
you are an equal opportunity posse master,
hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
I got in despite affirmative action.

[MINe109]

On Dec 13, 11:25*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> >>> In article
> >>> >,
> >>> "Sophistic" > wrote:
>
> >>>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
>
> >>>>>>> Shut up, Arny.
>
> >>>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic
> >>>> lose.
>
> >>> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
>
> >> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy.
>
> > I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> > understand, Arny.
>
> Condescending attitude noted.
>
> Jenn, obviously you are clueless about how to effectively communicate with
> people. *Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.

This was worth dealing with google groups! +3

Stephen

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article
>,
MINe109 > wrote:

> On Dec 13, 11:25*am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> > "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > >, "Arny
> > > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> > >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >
> > >>> In article
> > >>> >,
> > >>> "Sophistic" > wrote:
> >
> > >>>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
> >
> > >>>>>>> Shut up, Arny.
> >
> > >>>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic
> > >>>> lose.
> >
> > >>> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
> >
> > >> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy.
> >
> > > I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> > > understand, Arny.
> >
> > Condescending attitude noted.
> >
> > Jenn, obviously you are clueless about how to effectively communicate with
> > people. *Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.
>
> This was worth dealing with google groups! +3
>
> Stephen

;-)

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

> > > > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.

> > > It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.
> >
> > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > replying directly to my posts.
> >
> > Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.
>
> I have to give you credit,
> you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> I got in despite affirmative action.

The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the
dues.

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> > In article
> > >, "Arny
> > Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> In article
> >>> >,
> >>> "Sophistic" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The MidYut mused on Jenn's response to Arny:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Shut up, Arny.
> >>>>
> >>>> Being reduced to uttering "shut up" is an automatic
> >>>> lose.
> >>>
> >>> Not if you want to tell someone to shut up.
> >>
> >> Again Jenn you show that you lack basic human courtesy.
> >
> > I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> > understand, Arny.
>
> Condescending attitude noted.

Not condescending, Arny. It's simply the truth. It's the way you
communicate with and relate to the world.
>
> Jenn, obviously you are clueless about how to effectively communicate with
> people.

lol Yes, that's me alright.

> Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.

Do you ever think about what you write?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Jenn said:

> > > I'm simply trying to speak a language that you
> > > understand, Arny.
> >
> > Condescending attitude noted.
>
> Not condescending, Arny. It's simply the truth. It's the way you
> communicate with and relate to the world.

You misunderstand, Mistress. Arnii is complaining because he can't see
whether you're genuflecting as you talk down to him. Remember that in
Krooglish, words have several meanings, or none at all.

> > Jenn, obviously you are clueless about how to effectively communicate with people

> lol Yes, that's me alright.

Did you truncate Turdy's sentence? I'm sure he meant to say "...communicate
with people who have been assimilated into the Hive and are now fully
metronicized Audio 'Borgs."

> > Here's a much-needed clue: Condescension gets you no where.
>
> Do you ever think about what you write?

Jenn you, should know by now Jnee that what you *call* thinking is,
actaulley a form of prayer Jeen. Sorry youre not able to pray effectively
Jnenn but, its like you can go to bible schoool and still learning nothing
Jenen. LOL! mUch! ;-)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 1:24*pm, George M. Middius >
wrote:
> Clyde Slick said:
>
> > > > > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.
> > > > It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.
>
> > > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > > replying directly to my posts.
>
> > > Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.
>
> > I have to give you credit,
> > you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> > hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> > I got in despite affirmative action.
>
> The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the
> dues.

I thought it was the sanity clause.

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

> > > > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > > > replying directly to my posts.

> > > I have to give you credit,
> > > you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> > > hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> > > I got in despite affirmative action.
> >
> > The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the dues.
>
> I thought it was the sanity clause.

No, we had to drop it from the membership requirements after the lawsuit.
But when we raised the dues to $9.95, Turdy shrieked and hid in his basement
counting-house.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 18:25, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
> wrote:
> On Dec 13, 1:24*pm, George M. Middius >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Clyde Slick said:
>
> > > > > > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.
> > > > > It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.
>
> > > > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > > > replying directly to my posts.
>
> > > > Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.
>
> > > I have to give you credit,
> > > you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> > > hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> > > I got in despite affirmative action.
>
> > The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the
> > dues.
>
> I thought it was the sanity clause.-

Arny's XMas stocking will contain the requisitie lump of turd.

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Dec, 19:45, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Shhhh! said:
>
> > > > > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > > > > replying directly to my posts.
> > > > I have to give you credit,
> > > > you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> > > > hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> > > > I got in despite affirmative action.
>
> > > The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the dues.
>
> > I thought it was the sanity clause.
>
> No, we had to drop it from the membership requirements after the lawsuit.
> But when we raised the dues to $9.95, Turdy shrieked and hid in his basement
> counting-house.

He could have gone to the local hamfest and sold off four of his
obsolete sound cards

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 13, 7:30*pm, Clyde Slick > wrote:
> On 13 Dec, 18:25, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
>
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>
>
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> > wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 1:24*pm, George M. Middius >
> > wrote:
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> > > Clyde Slick said:
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> > > > > > > people who are active members of the [my supreme master's] posse.
> > > > > > It's all those sharp edges on our deputy badges.
>
> > > > > Turdy complains practically nonstop about my "posse", but he's terrified of
> > > > > replying directly to my posts.
>
> > > > > Merry Xmas, ChickenBorg.
>
> > > > I have to give you credit,
> > > > you are an equal opportunity posse master,
> > > > hiring straight white somewhat conservative males like me.
> > > > I got in despite affirmative action.
>
> > > The only reason the Krooborg isn't a member is because he can't afford the
> > > dues.
>
> > I thought it was the sanity clause.-
>
> Arny's XMas stocking will contain the requisitie lump of turd.

So GOIA still believes in Sanity Clause?

The poor insane fool.